I personally wouldn't ever subscribe to someone's only fans or fansly. Something about that stuff is too weird for me. It's difficult to articulate why that is.
It is even more weird when you take into account that OF doesn't really check ages all that much. I think they use the same policy as p0rnhub which only a few months ago , yes they only started a couple months ago, started to age verify people in videos
For me, it's the whole "commercializing intimacy". Like an ex once said "That bed is like Vegas, what happens there, stays there". Words to live by IMHO.
About age difference, it's not all about guys. Women looking for more experienced men, someone who has better social status and more money. Most women always "Date Up", which means you need someone older. Women just not interested in the "Boys" same age.
@Hirome_Satou U.S. schools are broken. They don't do anything about bullying until the victim kicks the bully's face in, then it's on the victim for being violent but not on the bully for perpetrating prolonged psychological torture.
@@Hirome_Satou schools have been proving themselves to be absolute shit at dealing with bullies so it wouldnt surprise me if it went on for quite a bit
I don't get the hate and scorn OnlyFans gets. Like, does it really affect your life what they do? And if you try and say you're worried for them, don't. You only care because you know they're doing adult content.
@@savisenpaiihey, that's how it starts u know? One moment it's "he's so smart and down to earth" or "he is soooo funny", and then, before you know it, you're getting ur back blown by the man as you're thinking to yourself "you know, I should clean up a bit next time I come over". 😂
The bullying IS happening tho. One of the worst ones I’ve seen was covered by Bearing and his wife a good few weeks ago. Eldest sister dyes her nether regions pink and does a podcast with her younger (ie, a minor; still in high or middle school, not sure which) brother who’s been bullied RELENTLESSLY by his classmates over the color of that region. She thinks she can buy her way out of it (like she has with her parents) but it’s clear as Crystal that a good amount of his reactions on-screen aren’t an act.
For the attraction to looking young, humans are a species with female neoteny and a lot of those neotynous characteristics are secondary $ex characteristics which are generally the traits $exual selection selects based on. Ie, humans select for younger-looking females. *To a point.* While mature males change more, females do, to, and there are definite differences (if less pronounced than in males) between pre-pubescent and pubescent or post-pubescent females in the geomotries of facial features, shoulder, waist, and hip width, etc. Liking women that look youthful is very different from liking females with the features of actual children.
Also, I'm not surprised at how down bad society is these days, it's been going downhill since people decided to throw away their morals. I'm not saying people should go to church or something, but it's just remarkable how society has degraded since religion, of any sort, was removed from the public curriculum.
*Sex is a part of our life. Of course it’s going to be incorporated in our media.* *I’m Japanese, and we’re not so uptight about sex in our media and culture. We’re exposed to it in media in a very young age, so by time we reach full adulthood maturity, we are desensitized about it.* *I dabble in sexuality in my media, because it’s fun and a reflection of my personality.* *What I am saying is: Sex is not a big deal, unless you make it a big deal, or if you don’t enjoy it in a healthy moderation*
Ummm, I can't help but feel like that is only because you guys are dying off. Partially thanks to outdated work culture and policies. And of course, because of an emotionally abusive household. All coming together to create someone who doesn't see the merit in bringing someone into this country to go through that as well. The laws that safeguard Black Companies' reputations don't help either. And of course this also affects one of Japan's most well known exports: anime. Which is why even that may wither away if Japan doesn't change in the future. Japan's leadership and elders are killing their own country. Slowly. It's a shame.
While in moderation hedonistic schmecks can be an enjoyable thing, as a whole it is also a responsibility to its practitioners due to its biological purpose. If you aren’t planning to use it to create new life you must understand that responsibility. Same with actual procreating. Some people don’t understand this, thus, they use it recklessly. Nuff said.
I'm all for making the age of majority 21, most reports that i've read says that majority of people's brains have fully developed by then; beer, alcohol, access to porn, buy firearms, tobacco, legal rec drugs, enlisting, voting make the minimum age 21
Minimum 18 - in my country, it's 18 for drinking, driving, voting, etc. 21 and up is regarded clubs, or spirits (vodka, etc). So it should be at that point no sooner than 18. Despite the legal age here being 16... I don't think onlyfans should allow anyone below 18 to even gain access, no less making accounts, or filming there. We'll see how the future goes, but I doubt that my nephew would pay someone at onlyfans by the time he hits 16-18. (he's a couple of months old now.). Hope ya' havin' a great day Savii, and so goes for the rest out there too - and that tomorrow will be yet another wonderful saturday.
I am not a fan of significant age gap relationships either but every body gets involved when the man is going after 18 yo. Yet nobody bats an eye when 18 yo "girls" chase after rich old men, they make the same get yo money gurl joke. I have yet to see anybody tell that girl " hey you should find a man closer to your age and leave the old man alone".
Exactly it just proves there isn't anything wrong with it because either it's wrong both ways or it isn't wrong at all because at that point you're being hypocritical
37:08 And that's why I block people who do only fans. I'd rather not know them, then to get to know them only to find out they do that stuff and just never be able to see them the same way before ever again. Which is why I get pissed off whenever I find out someone does only fans content but it was well hidden from plain sight.
We go through our whole lives covering our private parts with clothes, and all of a sudden, you show thousands of people what's underneath. Even after one naked picture, everywhere you go, there is a chance somebody on the street will see you and remember how your body looks. Even though you don't want to show it to them. And you don't know if you're gonna make a lot of money. The examples of millionares are just people who made it. Many don't make much more than they would at a regular job. The amount of embarrassment and the potential mental problems later on are not worth it. Your relationships, children, family, jobs... It's all fucked after you go through that shortcut. Sometimes, the things you "want to do" aren't the things that will get you "the things you want" or "what you want to be". Treat your life like it means something, not just another flesh sack.
I have to say i've been enjoying your content since the Hagmaxxing video. It's nice to hear your perspective (lovely voice btw, you've got a great sense of humor). I may be 29 but I just have no experience in dating, relationships or anything (whole mix of reasons, mostly towards myself). Except for subscribing to OF's but that's mostly because of loneliness and how the "free content" just doesn't appeal to me. The appeal for me is because it felt more intimate, I never did the 1 on 1 stuff but just in general, it felt nice at first but eventually I just got numb. I didn't really live in my 20s, I just made it out okay. Here's to hoping for my 30s will be better. I look forward to seeing more of your content.
Savii, Kozii!, and Lidia Nekozawa, y’all need a podcast, you 3 need to get together and just talk the talk, because all of you have really interesting stuff to say about life and experiences, really good discussions I’ve had and making me think deeply. Savii, look at the recent Kozii! video, you two talked about 2 different things, but yall rhymed really closely.
I think another thing that’s worth noting for OF is how many women (and men) are enticed by the possibility of making lots of money but hit a giant roadblock if they can’t reach a ludicrous threshold for OF’s specific standards in order to get those humongous payouts. I have a close friend that started doing OF a couple of years ago as a hobby and while she likes to make the content for her & her husband’s own personal enjoyment…what wasn’t fun for them was finding out that they put it out there and only made like $15-$35 a month despite their just shy of 100 Subs buying the pictures/videos in a good amount 😒 Unless you’re Bella Thorne or Danielle Bregoli…you’re pretty much being pimped by OF if you’re under 10k subscribers. This is something that’s never talked about by a vast majority of the models because of how shameful it is. If you wanna know more, there’s this excellent video about the topic by Alex Hexagon 👍🏽
I do have an objection to how you might see morals. There are practical reasons they exist. And as a practical example my coworkers. Complete asshole. He acts without the slightest regard to his teams and only for his own benefit forcing people to pick up the slack. He will be fired. Society has rules because people are complicated. Having a code of conduct everyone follows makes people simple enough to interact and work with. To do away with them simply because you want to means you’ll be closing doors that would otherwise have remained open. Trusting people also becomes more risky. We’ve been seeing the results of this for decades. In the only fans example having a stable long term relationship and family becomes more difficult. And the money will dry up as the woman becomes older. Now I agree that so long as you act in a way that doesn’t affect anyone else you can do as you please. But everyone else will react to those choices accordingly even if it doesn’t affect them.
Morals is what allows you to flex a million dollars in the first place. If everyone hates you because you have no morals, you are under risk of being seen as a complete moral fairgame to be neutralized or otherwise subjected to aggression, so having a million dollars might be only good to purchase a bunker to live in and avoid consequences. As an old Roman thinker said, even thieves know the importance of honor and codes of conduct. If you can't have even a minimum of morality and behavior self-control to at least other immoral people, you're beyond cooked. In the case of the girl, she will only be able to flex the money for so long. She ain't gonna be a desirable prostitute forever. When reality hits, she will be in far, far, far greater disadvantage than any person who kept their morals.
“Do w/e the fuck you want” and “who even has dignity nowadays” I can’t agree with this, especially the older I get. It’s part of the reason Western society has degenerated to this point. And it’s only going to get worse. We tolerate far too much nowadays. Even if it doesn’t directly affect you right now, it’s going to affect our children and their children. Obviously my comment is more about degeneracy as a whole but porn being so normalized and so readily available contributes to it.
I think it has more to do with how much the economy sucks now, all over the world; everything is taxed and regulated, entrepreneurship is actively discouraged, upward mobility is practically non-existent, it's no wonder the youth would stop caring about dignity and do whatever they think will make them money.
@@MasahikoKohineko The economy is bad because there are no more social contracts. Everyone just does online stuff and price gouges. Even without any bad political policy it would still be bad because of this. There are literal geniuses uploaded content to UA-cam that will never market their ideas. I guarantee you the worlds first usable water powered car will be made by a UA-camr and the YTer will never say how to make it and let it die in obscurity. Meanwhile tech bros are their own worst enemy. "We could build better stuff if this program wasn't so expensive" My brother in christ, you're literally the one's setting the prices of the programs.
@@walkermott1750 >Everyone just does online stuff and price gouges. Yes, because there are more incentives to do that kind of thing, as it's not tightly regulated like other industries. >Even without any bad political policy it would still be bad because of this. None of this would be a problem if the bad policies didn't exist in the first place. Economy and culture are inextricably linked, you can't have strong social contracts without a good economy, as a bad economy, like we have now, gives you plenty of reason not to honor social contracts. Latin America is a great example of this, our economies suck and everything is regulated and taxed, so everyone has an "every man's out for himself" attitude, destroying any incentive for upholding social contracts.
I see where your coming from but in your option how do you think you will solve this issue or how these people who are clearly brainrot thinking this will happen no matter what how do you change there mind. Lets say we make a new law saying they cant do this people will find a way might be a bit dark but let the small thinking live there life and lets push the people looking for change
Funny the numbers are in top 10% is up to 1000 a month, top 1% up to 10,000 a month and top .1% up to 100,000 a month. So the women who choose this route are mostly making below an average job a month guess its worth i guess.
17:46 "I'm old, I'm old, but at the same time: talk shit get hit" Girl got that Revolutionary mindset. Fuck minute 17:46, belongs on minute 17:76. Mary Pitcher is in the house and on that canon!
To be fair about first impressions, most people really dont change. Thats why most dont believe someone when they say they've changed since.its such a rare thing
I find it crazy that you can sell your body at 18, be that to the army or OF, but legally cant drink till 21(state acceptions applicable*). That someone can die fighting for the country before that country even allowed them to have alcohol is just mind-blowing. *Not sure about other states, but I know in NY that ones parent/legal guardian can give them alcohol under the age of 21 but only their child and only if said child isn't leaving the house/stays under supervision.
The thing that kinda shocked me back in OSUT was just how many fucks were dipping, I didn't know what that nasty ass water bottle was for until I realized it was dip spit, nearly all my DSs dipped, and that bottle is just stomach churning, damn.
Ironically, the person who I guess "overcame" their OF past I guess is maybe Projekt Melody. Most people see her as a sweetheart that does lewd things.
@@dream6562 it also does help that many that like Vtubers are horny as fuck, the parasocial relation most also be crazy, its like a "distant relationship" you "talk" on stream and also get the video call sex on the side
Honestly I think most of his take about “morals” was all about personal morals of the individuals, not societal or religious morals in general. That’s how I saw it anyways
The thing about not having a past that follows you is something I am familiar with honestly. As a former addict who was also horribly socially hostile, I have people that still see me as the old me. I've learned to grow past the shame of it but I do still have a lot of people who are incredulous when I tell them I've gotten better. I think it should be 25 for porn, not 18. But I don't even watch porn because I have an addictive personality problem. It's awful. I'm glad I've gotten away from it. As for my type? I like over 30 lol. BTW Savi, I'm single. 😉
12:25 I'll say this, I believe that it should be twenty one. Including drinking, drugs, and tobacco products (vapes included). I also think that the military minimum age should be raised to 18 as well as the voting age. Barring that I think the legal age of anything should match the legal min age for going to die in the military. Because if you're old enough to be sent to possibly die, you should be considered old enough to enjoy living your life, vices included. Which is why I think military age should be 21 not 18
Being parasocial is very common in my generation, unfortunately, they could be using that money to go on a date with a girl, or pay for a gym membership.
@@lazyllama8649 They just wanna feel anything at this point. Which I can't blame them at times due to how over-atomized our world has become. Despite it being the most "free and open" they say it is, it feels very restrictive on what you can and can't do.
@@savisenpaii Which leads me to believe that some of these consumers are lonely teens or adults or porn addicts that just feed this stuff to feel something, a connection to someone. And sadly its not real and won't be. Its why I don't like these "sex workers". For all they know they're taking advantage of a lot of mentally weak people and only making them worse. Then you've got some of them wondering why they being treated like objects... when they've made money off of presenting themselves as an object of sexual pleasure... TLDR: None of this is healthy.
0:03 Yes, every single one. If you can't show me proof otherwise, then it must be all true. Since that video title declares it, and listen, lady, I need to see your permit for that hand you keep waving around. Okay, dumb jokes aside, I was just thinking about how many people believe pimps are a distant memory, when in actuality, the smart ones just moved to the digital space.
It wouldn’t such a problem if people could just own up to it being a digital street walker Men walk the street slanging product, women slang that thang
I also think AI girlfriends and boyfriends are an interesting thing to see. If technology progresses, we might get fertile androids. If you watched Armitage III anime, you'll get what I mean.
Onlyfans may be bad for most people, but retired cornstars saved themselves to do what they want instead of working in the industry full of addicts and a-holes. That's basically why OF is still thriving.
1:23 well thats .......unsettling. like a little young lamb extremely excited to enter a slaughterhouse... are they are of the possible hell they are entering? well said on everything. my Autistic mind finds this all so very confusing. but this is very useful info. so thank you. :) I know one thing for sure. this is all so extremely creepy. i don't ever see myself doing it or really supporting anyone doing it.... of course. I'd never go and harass a model. nah. thats not my style. I'd much rather just keep my distance and let them have at it. they might have used these sites to get out of a dark place or maybe they got into a dark place from using this sites. none of my business. its creepy...... just how much the topic of girls wanting to look underaged comes up.... like... it seems to be a recurring pattern. first time i checked out fanlsy because..ya know this girl wanted to know. i happened across a vtuber claiming they are a shortstack and they are totally not a shortstack. those shoulders are far too thin and your character is far too short and small. you are clearly an oppai something something. i seen they were massively popular. and so i noped tf out of that site forever. If thats the kind of clients that website hosts. i've seen enough. the way i see it. vtubers doing that stuff know exactly what they are doing. exactly who they cater to and there just might be a day they get in serious trouble over it. alls i know is. keep my distance nora. no point in kicking up a fuzz. there are people who will actively die on a hill defending people like that. and that'll be creepy to witness.
I wonder if in the future and where we are heading as a society is that every one becomes an influcer and the people who have the most power are those who have the most clout. While all of our basic needs are satisfied by our ai overlords
Age to drink and smoke being 21 makes sense to me. 17 for enlistment means you must wait 4 years to drink. If drinking were allowed at such a young age, then there'd be more issues with people becoming alcoholics in the military (and more in general) than there already is imo. As far as I'm aware too, Only-fans can be completely anonymous nor need to be sexual in nature. That's just what it's known for. Like, not broadcasting your identity and only showing foot pics doesn't hurt anybody nor self-image, even tit pics. Especially if you have self-image issues and people complimenting you gives that confidence. So that part isn't a huge deal for me personally. Though how it can be regulated better is hard to say given current laws for said content. Outside of that, I doubt every person in the world wants to be blasted on social media or be known for said content. So, at the end of the day, I do think it's a problem, but I don't think it's to the point where it's going to end economical infrastructure. More so when you realize a large portion of people doing said content are still working in another industry to some extent. Basically, OF is a side hustle for those more modest going about it.
in my country legal for drinking hard liquor and driving licsense, voting and everything else is 18 years of age, most drink since 13, and can buy lower alcohol percentage at 16 years of age, and it works, but the reason it works is that we are the majority raised to be independent at age 18, and move out of home at 18, ofcourse there are a minority that stays home untill much older but culture wise we raised to be independent at 18 and it works because we raised for that ^^ btw it is Denmark i am from
Of all takes, cultural, economic, demographic he chooses MORAL one. What a waste of oxygen, good job Savii, but I don't know how you had so much patience to even hear it out.
A youtuber did an interview with an 18-year old onlyfans model and when he asked her about her future children, she said she wasn't worried becuse she didn't want kids. She literally couldnt imagine that she might end up changing her mind later on.
Ya because she a known person and not building from nothing. Don't know mate bullying someone going to a new level by spreading corn pictures instead of joking about what they wear or look like.
that doesnt mean much... many people doing porn just use twich as a pipeline to the other stuff nowadays so their audience is different from the majority of people you'd find elsewhere. as for that other point, you know full well there would be non-stop jokes at that kids expense as soon as people found that stuff out. bully or not you're getting picked on, that would even happen among adults if you get on someones bad side.
there is a couple of things i disagree, freedom of speech is not freedom to do whatever you want, also you should care about how you are perceived and what others think about you ( to some extent), its do to this degradation of morals that we see people parading down the streets on bondage gear on all fours and to make it worse there are parents that take their children to watch. I know its hard to keep your morals, when you are at the bottom of the social ladder, cause we got to eat, but without morals we see what is happening in some places in the US, where you just steal from stores and go sell on the streets without fear of repercussions, do to moral degradation from people stealing and the people that made the laws easier on this people.
Oh trust me I know what that looks like live poor all my life been deploy to plays that are literal shit shows but at the end of the day letting people do what they want is what this country was made on as long as your not hurting others let them live there life if that means there life crumbles that's on them no skin off my bones
funny part i would never ever sub to onlyfans or fansly why cause there shit already leaked on google or reddit i can look at that shit for free with my friends and we would sit there just rating or roasting either the set up or giving our opinion on the make up etc like i stop getting sexually attracted to pornstars in my early 20s since i see there outfit outside everyday now lol
I find it a shame he didn't go into the psychological damage doing adult content does to the people doing it. Self Harm and Self Termination have been rampant in that industry for generations. OnlyFans bringing so many new people into that industry without the foreknowledge of the dangers is the real damage. If people are going to do it (and we all know that they will) then I beg them to be in regular contact with a psych professional that they can trust.
I dont agree with how and what people are doing its not my cup of tea but stuff like this has been happening for so long not to mention lets just say fuck it I agree what will you do with the brainrot community that is doing it you cant there stuck in there ways sadly
There's no money in OF for the creators though, these kind of sites deliberately promote the 99th percentile of users who were either famous before hand or where ahead of the market saturation, most creators are being digitally pimped out by the company for less than mcdonald wages. It's such a high time preference mindset that gimps future prospects even the ones who can afford the lambo are making a mistake by buying one imho.
I used to be a "I don't care, do what you want" person like 10 years ago but now I'm like "Yeah... letting people do what they want is kinda why things are getting worse." Maybe there is a reason every successful society had a "moral" type system and then crashed once they stopped enforcing them *cough* Rome *cough*
The messed up part is that you don’t even have to look back that far in history to see letting ppl do whatever they want is a net negative for society. Just look up Weimar Germany and its haunting parallels to modern day America…
When two standards are compared: The lower standard will be filled. Naturally. Even when it can negatively influence others. Example being OF. I made a joke to a woman some time ago and it was along the lines, “Of course I don’t objectify women. Women do that enough themselves”. Ultimately, standards exist for a reason. Throwing morales away for hyper individualism is self-destructive. And it is for society, but with people who have a “f*ck society” mindset, they will not care. While society must recognize the individual, so must the individual recognize they are apart of the society.
@@kazhukov8996 Women got gaslit into thinking dancing naked for the price of a cheese burger was "empowerment" and it is basically the average male fantasy of the 1940s. "You do you" and it's consequences will be felt for generations
I feel like this video was pretty surface level compared to other videos that talked about OF there are alot of problems that he didn't talk about, like how the average money gotten from OF or fansly is like under 200$ on average and that it's very hard to get a living wage from just doing it.
I think don't have a difference betven 18 year or the 21 years old age limit. Because, i still remember when i turned 18 and i still don't get the adult mentality, same in 21, but you can't rise the age limit because the "joung adults (18 - 21)" need the experience what make them real, responsible adults. The bad parts is, when they make decision what folow them all around they live, but can't erase it and no one can do against anything.
@@dream6562 I get what you are saying. The embarrassment and ridicule. But people don't care about that due to everyone being so materialistic nowadays. (Sorry for the late response, I have been busy)
@thedredayshow9246 idk you definitely see effort being put into turning things around into reverse mode so I do think there is hope if the movement keeps up
There is such a small percentage of people at the top of onlyfans who get rich off of it. People in the top 20% make like 150 dollars a month. You have to be the top 0.1% to make a living off of it. To most people it's just a side hustle and they all have other jobs. The dude in the video is blowing it way out of proportion
I wonder how many women drop out of college or quit regular jobs just to "spread it" on OF. ESPECIALLY if they got tonnes of dept from previously mentioned college that they struggling to pay off...
Maybe it's just me but people that subscribed to her OF may as well been older dudes. They were waiting for Danielle to be legal so they won't get ousted.
My moral complaint with OF and Fansly is how they are promoted on websites that are not adult only. Fansly is one of Twitch's biggest sponsors and Twitch has a massive child audience. If you wanna make porn, you do you. But if you advertise it to children then you belong in prison next to EDP, Dr., Cody Ko, and Ava Tyson.
6:27 those types of stories are only possible with a support base already in place. She already had fans, a lot of creepy ones as well (who the fuck looks at a 15 year old with the thought "only 3 more years until I won't go to prison!"), who shilled out the cash when she made the announcement. Now I'm not saying you couldn't, I know it was probably mostly a joke, but if you were serious, I'd wait until your subscription count was up in the hextuple numbers before making one. Make it a 10 dollar subscription, then after 5 months drop it down and make it another announcement. Since it's subscription based, you can do only a few videos every month, and even skip some months after a while saying "sorry, I'm hurting" or "sorry, there was no good partners" or "sorry, my toy broke" and still pull in money for no work. Not as much, but enough so long as you don't abuse it. Hell you can even just use your Avatar and make shitty 3d hentai with it and people will still pay if you got a loyal fan base. Especially if you voice it. Technically you don't have to give up any dignity because you can turn it into an ironic skit channel where the loyal viewers get a small taste of you maybe some skimpy clothing before some one interrupts you in a funny manner, pull a joke, then end video and you'll probably find a small dedicated audience if you keep the funny up enough
Banger video Savii! Love these so much, not only we get a reaction, but we also get to meditate on certain points. Personally I think this is one symptom of social media and the need to get attention, at whatever cost, and its consequences for you and your family down the line. My motto is live and let die, you are free to do whatever with your body as long as you don't cause harm to others, "morals" be damned, which is fancy word to look down on different opinions, but also I draw the line when people with children are involved as it can lead to some nasty situations later on. And yes, I am aware that there have been women doing awful things to feed their families, I just would like it to be more options for them than that. Sorry for the essaying, but this is a very interesting topic that needs addressing
I f*cking OF like I don't care about the adult video actors all that much but OF is different compared to other sites and stuff because it's EVERYWHERE I have seen it on youtube shorts, tiktok and every social media platform not the adult stuff of course but I mean the ads from the women who do it. I work at a school and one day the students (grade4 and 5) where watching youtube shorts on the tv so there was no account connected to the TV and man I have seen like so many girls who say stuff like "I bought this house with OF" or the one I seen the kids watch about a girl who got her friend eye surgery and the first thing her friend saw after getting the surgery was something like "YOUR SURGERY WAS PAID BY OF" and man this is the biggest lie because on everage OF girls get like 300$ which is average that means in actuallity most of the money goes to the top and actual most average for women who aren't in the top 10% will be paid like 100-200$ which is not livable. I just hate how OF is everywhere I can't stand it.
Dudes (and not even exclusively guys) but people liking younger/underage children has always been a thing.. it just hasn't always been "illegal" how it is now. think about the era that "Game Of Thrones" is based on.. it was normal back in the medieval times & after too... sadly.. especially when dealing with "royalty" types.. they were so weird not only would they marry young kids.. but they would even have kids with family members.. like not just 3rd-4th cousins type deals.. like straight up brothers and sisters having kids. to keep wealth in the family type beats.
I know back in history it was like that, being an adult and death was close to each other to the age of 30 to 40. All 30+ years old people would die of old age. The Age gap itself I agree is questionable, it does depend on how big it is 10, 12, 14, 18, or 20. or 8, 6, 4 or 2. when does the age the age gap become more than just Questionable? Does it matter if it was a older man or woman( in their 30s who dates women or men in their 20s?
A lot of Only fans people making 6 figures if not bigger 7 figures. With just a subscription fee. And the 4,99 often includes only basic stuff. The bigger content requires often a higher tire which gets expensive really fast, sometimes including fan made videos. Depending on the build, while there are people out there for every kind of woman (and men), it would be easy to get the million in around a month. I mean: I won't strip naked just to earn money, I am not that kind of guy 😂 but earning that much... I would buy a house for my mother who is sitting in a wheelchair since her work accident. She always supported me so that would be me paying back her ultimate kindness. But not that way. Selling myself/my pictures for money? No thanks 😂 but that is just me, I won't really judge as long as there is no hypocritical statement involved (like saying ewwww, onlyfans but seeing the pay, jumping onto that platform as if there is something for free).
off topic but , the im old remark isnt that needed the internet has taught it that there is a fanboy for everyhing you might think you are old but in reality somewhere out there there is a small army of fanboys and fangirls who would stan for you so have that reminder any tme life gets too much :)
I personally wouldn't ever subscribe to someone's only fans or fansly. Something about that stuff is too weird for me. It's difficult to articulate why that is.
It is even more weird when you take into account that OF doesn't really check ages all that much. I think they use the same policy as p0rnhub which only a few months ago , yes they only started a couple months ago, started to age verify people in videos
Fr fr when Savii only fans?
There's free porn also, why waste your money too 🙄
@@Zzzoro92 it's not as much to get off as more as it is to feel wanted
For me, it's the whole "commercializing intimacy". Like an ex once said "That bed is like Vegas, what happens there, stays there". Words to live by IMHO.
Savii: "I'm old"
Me: *laughs in 36, while holding back the tears*
Are u married with kids yet?
@@thegrimharvest but hey, it's been 36, and 43 well lived years, amirite?
@@vriiite not married, had exes with kids though.
About age difference, it's not all about guys. Women looking for more experienced men, someone who has better social status and more money. Most women always "Date Up", which means you need someone older. Women just not interested in the "Boys" same age.
Your not wrong I see it all the time.
There was a story of a teen opening up his locker to a naked picture of their mom every day because their bully found their mom's OF.
Oof.....
And how did the school allow that to continue to happen?
@Hirome_Satou U.S. schools are broken. They don't do anything about bullying until the victim kicks the bully's face in, then it's on the victim for being violent but not on the bully for perpetrating prolonged psychological torture.
@@Hirome_Satou That's not too surprising to me that they did...
@@Hirome_Satou schools have been proving themselves to be absolute shit at dealing with bullies so it wouldnt surprise me if it went on for quite a bit
Savii: "Feet is kind of a thing."
SAVII FEET WHEN?!
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@@savisenpaiifeet has always been a thing 😂.
Tarnishing your digital footprint from doing onlyfans or adult content, is a consequence that a lot of people don't think about.
I don't get the hate and scorn OnlyFans gets. Like, does it really affect your life what they do? And if you try and say you're worried for them, don't. You only care because you know they're doing adult content.
1:49 “I’m not really much of a sexual person”
Unless Asmon is brought up, yes
isn't every single female Vtuber? at least from what i noticed a lot of Female Vtubers when Asmon is brought up just start gushing
HAHAHA true its more for jokes but I do love how that man thinks
@@savisenpaiihey, that's how it starts u know? One moment it's "he's so smart and down to earth" or "he is soooo funny", and then, before you know it, you're getting ur back blown by the man as you're thinking to yourself "you know, I should clean up a bit next time I come over". 😂
@@jonnyrbgomesit's because he's rich
Only fans made me lose hope in most people.
it's insane how fast they jumped to whore themselves
Some call it OnlyFools and I can definitely see why.
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We live in crazy times
Milfs can be like fine wine. Just the best !!!
The bullying IS happening tho.
One of the worst ones I’ve seen was covered by Bearing and his wife a good few weeks ago. Eldest sister dyes her nether regions pink and does a podcast with her younger (ie, a minor; still in high or middle school, not sure which) brother who’s been bullied RELENTLESSLY by his classmates over the color of that region. She thinks she can buy her way out of it (like she has with her parents) but it’s clear as Crystal that a good amount of his reactions on-screen aren’t an act.
If YOU are getting old, then we are all getting old cuz this shit stresses you out so much it accelerates aging.
For the attraction to looking young, humans are a species with female neoteny and a lot of those neotynous characteristics are secondary $ex characteristics which are generally the traits $exual selection selects based on. Ie, humans select for younger-looking females. *To a point.* While mature males change more, females do, to, and there are definite differences (if less pronounced than in males) between pre-pubescent and pubescent or post-pubescent females in the geomotries of facial features, shoulder, waist, and hip width, etc. Liking women that look youthful is very different from liking females with the features of actual children.
13:10 younger women quite literally have healthier eggs, you lose more eggs and lose the quality the older you get.
I found you recently, and I wanna say your voice is sooooo soothing, omg! Keep up the good work! ❤
Thank you my dear!
I love this whole video/commentary and also your voice is really soothing to me and I love your content 🖤
Also, I'm not surprised at how down bad society is these days, it's been going downhill since people decided to throw away their morals. I'm not saying people should go to church or something, but it's just remarkable how society has degraded since religion, of any sort, was removed from the public curriculum.
*Sex is a part of our life. Of course it’s going to be incorporated in our media.*
*I’m Japanese, and we’re not so uptight about sex in our media and culture. We’re exposed to it in media in a very young age, so by time we reach full adulthood maturity, we are desensitized about it.*
*I dabble in sexuality in my media, because it’s fun and a reflection of my personality.*
*What I am saying is: Sex is not a big deal, unless you make it a big deal, or if you don’t enjoy it in a healthy moderation*
"Ah, you think horni is your ally? You merely adopted it; I was born in it, *molded by it!* "
guess it explains why Nippon is so into ntr
Ummm, I can't help but feel like that is only because you guys are dying off.
Partially thanks to outdated work culture and policies.
And of course, because of an emotionally abusive household.
All coming together to create someone who doesn't see the merit in bringing someone into this country to go through that as well.
The laws that safeguard Black Companies' reputations don't help either.
And of course this also affects one of Japan's most well known exports: anime.
Which is why even that may wither away if Japan doesn't change in the future.
Japan's leadership and elders are killing their own country. Slowly.
It's a shame.
While in moderation hedonistic schmecks can be an enjoyable thing, as a whole it is also a responsibility to its practitioners due to its biological purpose. If you aren’t planning to use it to create new life you must understand that responsibility. Same with actual procreating. Some people don’t understand this, thus, they use it recklessly. Nuff said.
@@soldatdaniels8738 As much as it pains me, agreed.
We eating good on the long form discussion videos this week.
Got more on the way!
I'm all for making the age of majority 21, most reports that i've read says that majority of people's brains have fully developed by then; beer, alcohol, access to porn, buy firearms, tobacco, legal rec drugs, enlisting, voting make the minimum age 21
Agreed can you make it so me and my unit weren't sent to war at 18 as well? 🤣
Minimum 18 - in my country, it's 18 for drinking, driving, voting, etc. 21 and up is regarded clubs, or spirits (vodka, etc). So it should be at that point no sooner than 18. Despite the legal age here being 16... I don't think onlyfans should allow anyone below 18 to even gain access, no less making accounts, or filming there. We'll see how the future goes, but I doubt that my nephew would pay someone at onlyfans by the time he hits 16-18. (he's a couple of months old now.). Hope ya' havin' a great day Savii, and so goes for the rest out there too - and that tomorrow will be yet another wonderful saturday.
I am not a fan of significant age gap relationships either but every body gets involved when the man is going after 18 yo. Yet nobody bats an eye when 18 yo "girls" chase after rich old men, they make the same get yo money gurl joke. I have yet to see anybody tell that girl " hey you should find a man closer to your age and leave the old man alone".
Exactly it just proves there isn't anything wrong with it because either it's wrong both ways or it isn't wrong at all because at that point you're being hypocritical
37:08 And that's why I block people who do only fans. I'd rather not know them, then to get to know them only to find out they do that stuff and just never be able to see them the same way before ever again.
Which is why I get pissed off whenever I find out someone does only fans content but it was well hidden from plain sight.
My morals are the one thing I have that keeps me sane in this world. Its why I will stick by them even if it means death.
We go through our whole lives covering our private parts with clothes, and all of a sudden, you show thousands of people what's underneath.
Even after one naked picture, everywhere you go, there is a chance somebody on the street will see you and remember how your body looks. Even though you don't want to show it to them.
And you don't know if you're gonna make a lot of money. The examples of millionares are just people who made it. Many don't make much more than they would at a regular job. The amount of embarrassment and the potential mental problems later on are not worth it. Your relationships, children, family, jobs... It's all fucked after you go through that shortcut.
Sometimes, the things you "want to do" aren't the things that will get you "the things you want" or "what you want to be". Treat your life like it means something, not just another flesh sack.
Do whatever you want attitude is exactly why are we're were we are
There’s no boundaries at all, that’s the problem with this sentiment.
While i don't agree with every point you're making, i appreciate your point of view. This is my first time seeing you. Subbed
I have to say i've been enjoying your content since the Hagmaxxing video. It's nice to hear your perspective (lovely voice btw, you've got a great sense of humor). I may be 29 but I just have no experience in dating, relationships or anything (whole mix of reasons, mostly towards myself). Except for subscribing to OF's but that's mostly because of loneliness and how the "free content" just doesn't appeal to me. The appeal for me is because it felt more intimate, I never did the 1 on 1 stuff but just in general, it felt nice at first but eventually I just got numb. I didn't really live in my 20s, I just made it out okay. Here's to hoping for my 30s will be better. I look forward to seeing more of your content.
6:09 lmao the second you heard how much you said sign me up 😂😂😂
Blew my mind like no way
@savisenpaii yea they make a shit ton of money. Like the saying goes. Sex sells
Savii, Kozii!, and Lidia Nekozawa, y’all need a podcast, you 3 need to get together and just talk the talk, because all of you have really interesting stuff to say about life and experiences, really good discussions I’ve had and making me think deeply.
Savii, look at the recent Kozii! video, you two talked about 2 different things, but yall rhymed really closely.
I think another thing that’s worth noting for OF is how many women (and men) are enticed by the possibility of making lots of money but hit a giant roadblock if they can’t reach a ludicrous threshold for OF’s specific standards in order to get those humongous payouts.
I have a close friend that started doing OF a couple of years ago as a hobby and while she likes to make the content for her & her husband’s own personal enjoyment…what wasn’t fun for them was finding out that they put it out there and only made like $15-$35 a month despite their just shy of 100 Subs buying the pictures/videos in a good amount 😒
Unless you’re Bella Thorne or Danielle Bregoli…you’re pretty much being pimped by OF if you’re under 10k subscribers. This is something that’s never talked about by a vast majority of the models because of how shameful it is. If you wanna know more, there’s this excellent video about the topic by Alex Hexagon 👍🏽
13:32 personally I like the older, mommy types.
Yessir, dap me up my boi
I do have an objection to how you might see morals. There are practical reasons they exist. And as a practical example my coworkers. Complete asshole. He acts without the slightest regard to his teams and only for his own benefit forcing people to pick up the slack. He will be fired.
Society has rules because people are complicated. Having a code of conduct everyone follows makes people simple enough to interact and work with. To do away with them simply because you want to means you’ll be closing doors that would otherwise have remained open. Trusting people also becomes more risky. We’ve been seeing the results of this for decades. In the only fans example having a stable long term relationship and family becomes more difficult. And the money will dry up as the woman becomes older.
Now I agree that so long as you act in a way that doesn’t affect anyone else you can do as you please. But everyone else will react to those choices accordingly even if it doesn’t affect them.
Morals is what allows you to flex a million dollars in the first place. If everyone hates you because you have no morals, you are under risk of being seen as a complete moral fairgame to be neutralized or otherwise subjected to aggression, so having a million dollars might be only good to purchase a bunker to live in and avoid consequences.
As an old Roman thinker said, even thieves know the importance of honor and codes of conduct. If you can't have even a minimum of morality and behavior self-control to at least other immoral people, you're beyond cooked.
In the case of the girl, she will only be able to flex the money for so long. She ain't gonna be a desirable prostitute forever. When reality hits, she will be in far, far, far greater disadvantage than any person who kept their morals.
@@phosspatharios9680 this guy gets it
“Do w/e the fuck you want” and “who even has dignity nowadays” I can’t agree with this, especially the older I get. It’s part of the reason Western society has degenerated to this point. And it’s only going to get worse. We tolerate far too much nowadays. Even if it doesn’t directly affect you right now, it’s going to affect our children and their children.
Obviously my comment is more about degeneracy as a whole but porn being so normalized and so readily available contributes to it.
I think it has more to do with how much the economy sucks now, all over the world; everything is taxed and regulated, entrepreneurship is actively discouraged, upward mobility is practically non-existent, it's no wonder the youth would stop caring about dignity and do whatever they think will make them money.
@@MasahikoKohineko The economy is bad because there are no more social contracts. Everyone just does online stuff and price gouges. Even without any bad political policy it would still be bad because of this.
There are literal geniuses uploaded content to UA-cam that will never market their ideas. I guarantee you the worlds first usable water powered car will be made by a UA-camr and the YTer will never say how to make it and let it die in obscurity.
Meanwhile tech bros are their own worst enemy. "We could build better stuff if this program wasn't so expensive" My brother in christ, you're literally the one's setting the prices of the programs.
@@walkermott1750 >Everyone just does online stuff and price gouges.
Yes, because there are more incentives to do that kind of thing, as it's not tightly regulated like other industries.
>Even without any bad political policy it would still be bad because of this.
None of this would be a problem if the bad policies didn't exist in the first place.
Economy and culture are inextricably linked, you can't have strong social contracts without a good economy, as a bad economy, like we have now, gives you plenty of reason not to honor social contracts.
Latin America is a great example of this, our economies suck and everything is regulated and taxed, so everyone has an "every man's out for himself" attitude, destroying any incentive for upholding social contracts.
I see where your coming from but in your option how do you think you will solve this issue or how these people who are clearly brainrot thinking this will happen no matter what how do you change there mind. Lets say we make a new law saying they cant do this people will find a way might be a bit dark but let the small thinking live there life and lets push the people looking for change
@@savisenpaiias depressing as this might sound, you can’t solve this issue. Short of a Frankly authoritarian response and even then not completely.
Women like older men, men take what they can get
Oh hey this actually made me sub I’ve always wanted to see someone discuss this in good faith 0:15
Definitely gotta have you on my podcast now
I try to find topics that excite me and felt this one hit it haha
*Never goon*
NEVER GOON
Funny the numbers are in top 10% is up to 1000 a month, top 1% up to 10,000 a month and top .1% up to 100,000 a month. So the women who choose this route are mostly making below an average job a month guess its worth i guess.
Morals doesn´t matter?
.....Savi???
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Megamind spitting facts.
Megamind 🤣
17:46 "I'm old, I'm old, but at the same time: talk shit get hit"
Girl got that Revolutionary mindset. Fuck minute 17:46, belongs on minute 17:76. Mary Pitcher is in the house and on that canon!
To be fair about first impressions, most people really dont change. Thats why most dont believe someone when they say they've changed since.its such a rare thing
I find it crazy that you can sell your body at 18, be that to the army or OF, but legally cant drink till 21(state acceptions applicable*).
That someone can die fighting for the country before that country even allowed them to have alcohol is just mind-blowing.
*Not sure about other states, but I know in NY that ones parent/legal guardian can give them alcohol under the age of 21 but only their child and only if said child isn't leaving the house/stays under supervision.
The thing that kinda shocked me back in OSUT was just how many fucks were dipping, I didn't know what that nasty ass water bottle was for until I realized it was dip spit, nearly all my DSs dipped, and that bottle is just stomach churning, damn.
I'm happy that I subbed to this channel
Happy to have you ❤️
Ironically, the person who I guess "overcame" their OF past I guess is maybe Projekt Melody. Most people see her as a sweetheart that does lewd things.
Nah she just has the loophole of being a v tuber to avoid the responsibility of the choices irl
@@dream6562 it also does help that many that like Vtubers are horny as fuck, the parasocial relation most also be crazy, its like a "distant relationship" you "talk" on stream and also get the video call sex on the side
Honestly I think most of his take about “morals” was all about personal morals of the individuals, not societal or religious morals in general. That’s how I saw it anyways
Come on now Darlin, why you gotta call me out like that. 😂
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The thing about not having a past that follows you is something I am familiar with honestly. As a former addict who was also horribly socially hostile, I have people that still see me as the old me. I've learned to grow past the shame of it but I do still have a lot of people who are incredulous when I tell them I've gotten better.
I think it should be 25 for porn, not 18. But I don't even watch porn because I have an addictive personality problem. It's awful. I'm glad I've gotten away from it.
As for my type? I like over 30 lol. BTW Savi, I'm single. 😉
a study said that the perfect amount which after things go bad is around 64:84 thousand
12:25 I'll say this, I believe that it should be twenty one. Including drinking, drugs, and tobacco products (vapes included). I also think that the military minimum age should be raised to 18 as well as the voting age. Barring that I think the legal age of anything should match the legal min age for going to die in the military. Because if you're old enough to be sent to possibly die, you should be considered old enough to enjoy living your life, vices included. Which is why I think military age should be 21 not 18
I can listen to Savy talk about anything and I'm lulled into a trance cuz her voice is so soothing.
Your too kind thank you
Its free, porn is fucking free, why would you pay for only fans?
I think people do it because they like that one specific content creator. feels like big parasocial
Being parasocial is very common in my generation, unfortunately, they could be using that money to go on a date with a girl, or pay for a gym membership.
@@lazyllama8649reports are that a lot are married men in sexless marriages.
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They just wanna feel anything at this point. Which I can't blame them at times due to how over-atomized our world has become. Despite it being the most "free and open" they say it is, it feels very restrictive on what you can and can't do.
@@savisenpaii Which leads me to believe that some of these consumers are lonely teens or adults or porn addicts that just feed this stuff to feel something, a connection to someone. And sadly its not real and won't be. Its why I don't like these "sex workers". For all they know they're taking advantage of a lot of mentally weak people and only making them worse. Then you've got some of them wondering why they being treated like objects... when they've made money off of presenting themselves as an object of sexual pleasure...
TLDR: None of this is healthy.
0:03 Yes, every single one. If you can't show me proof otherwise, then it must be all true. Since that video title declares it, and listen, lady,
I need to see your permit for that hand you keep waving around. Okay, dumb jokes aside, I was just thinking about how many people
believe pimps are a distant memory, when in actuality, the smart ones just moved to the digital space.
Andrew Tate for instance made his fortune pimping women on these cam sites.
It wouldn’t such a problem if people could just own up to it being a digital street walker
Men walk the street slanging product, women slang that thang
Owning that would mean marking their dating market value down a few pegs, which is something people superficial enough to have an OF will not accept.
I can listen to Savii all day, :). but then she can go all day without pausing to take a breath. For those who do not believe, join her stream.
HAHAHAHA I wish you were lying but your not wrong 🤣
I also think AI girlfriends and boyfriends are an interesting thing to see. If technology progresses, we might get fertile androids. If you watched Armitage III anime, you'll get what I mean.
Only fans is a corrupt place.
Onlyfans may be bad for most people, but retired cornstars saved themselves to do what they want instead of working in the industry full of addicts and a-holes. That's basically why OF is still thriving.
1:23 well thats .......unsettling. like a little young lamb extremely excited to enter a slaughterhouse... are they are of the possible hell they are entering?
well said on everything. my Autistic mind finds this all so very confusing. but this is very useful info. so thank you. :)
I know one thing for sure. this is all so extremely creepy. i don't ever see myself doing it or really supporting anyone doing it....
of course. I'd never go and harass a model. nah. thats not my style. I'd much rather just keep my distance and let them have at it.
they might have used these sites to get out of a dark place or maybe they got into a dark place from using this sites. none of my business.
its creepy...... just how much the topic of girls wanting to look underaged comes up.... like... it seems to be a recurring pattern.
first time i checked out fanlsy because..ya know this girl wanted to know.
i happened across a vtuber claiming they are a shortstack and they are totally not a shortstack. those shoulders are far too thin and your character is far too short and small. you are clearly an oppai something something. i seen they were massively popular. and so i noped tf out of that site forever. If thats the kind of clients that website hosts. i've seen enough.
the way i see it. vtubers doing that stuff know exactly what they are doing. exactly who they cater to and there just might be a day they get in serious trouble over it.
alls i know is. keep my distance nora. no point in kicking up a fuzz. there are people who will actively die on a hill defending people like that. and that'll be creepy to witness.
Color me shocked, didn't think I'd find a VTuber only a year younger than myself.😅
Feels old man.
I wonder if in the future and where we are heading as a society is that every one becomes an influcer and the people who have the most power are those who have the most clout. While all of our basic needs are satisfied by our ai overlords
Live your life is fine. As long as you know about the consequences.
6:30 ive seen some 30 year olds that look pretty good, never out of the question
Age to drink and smoke being 21 makes sense to me. 17 for enlistment means you must wait 4 years to drink. If drinking were allowed at such a young age, then there'd be more issues with people becoming alcoholics in the military (and more in general) than there already is imo.
As far as I'm aware too, Only-fans can be completely anonymous nor need to be sexual in nature. That's just what it's known for. Like, not broadcasting your identity and only showing foot pics doesn't hurt anybody nor self-image, even tit pics. Especially if you have self-image issues and people complimenting you gives that confidence. So that part isn't a huge deal for me personally. Though how it can be regulated better is hard to say given current laws for said content. Outside of that, I doubt every person in the world wants to be blasted on social media or be known for said content. So, at the end of the day, I do think it's a problem, but I don't think it's to the point where it's going to end economical infrastructure. More so when you realize a large portion of people doing said content are still working in another industry to some extent. Basically, OF is a side hustle for those more modest going about it.
37:52 i dont smoke but i know exactly was she meant because im around to many who smoke/ vape.
finally OF content
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He showed the best 5 percent of the entire staff of user on that website. The average is not nearly of these bloated numbers
in my country legal for drinking hard liquor and driving licsense, voting and everything else is 18 years of age, most drink since 13, and can buy lower alcohol percentage at 16 years of age, and it works, but the reason it works is that we are the majority raised to be independent at age 18, and move out of home at 18, ofcourse there are a minority that stays home untill much older but culture wise we raised to be independent at 18 and it works because we raised for that ^^ btw it is Denmark i am from
Of all takes, cultural, economic, demographic he chooses MORAL one. What a waste of oxygen, good job Savii, but I don't know how you had so much patience to even hear it out.
And what's wrong with a moral argument?
Thumbnails got me feeling a lil unwise ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
HAHAHA we try to make them at least a bit different
A youtuber did an interview with an 18-year old onlyfans model and when he asked her about her future children, she said she wasn't worried becuse she didn't want kids. She literally couldnt imagine that she might end up changing her mind later on.
You can make that much money, with the price of not working at a school or other specific places.
I never noticed this before but your body be clapping
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Sasha Grey used to be a corn star, and now she quite successful on Twitch. and school bullies bully any children, not only for OF parents
Annie Cruz as well. They are both doing pretty good on twitch.
Ya because she a known person and not building from nothing. Don't know mate bullying someone going to a new level by spreading corn pictures instead of joking about what they wear or look like.
@@SkinUpMonkey bullying existed long before OF
@@hito2501 well no shit my dude but some forms of bullying are worse than other forms.
that doesnt mean much... many people doing porn just use twich as a pipeline to the other stuff nowadays so their audience is different from the majority of people you'd find elsewhere.
as for that other point, you know full well there would be non-stop jokes at that kids expense as soon as people found that stuff out. bully or not you're getting picked on, that would even happen among adults if you get on someones bad side.
there is a couple of things i disagree, freedom of speech is not freedom to do whatever you want, also you should care about how you are perceived and what others think about you ( to some extent), its do to this degradation of morals that we see people parading down the streets on bondage gear on all fours and to make it worse there are parents that take their children to watch.
I know its hard to keep your morals, when you are at the bottom of the social ladder, cause we got to eat, but without morals we see what is happening in some places in the US, where you just steal from stores and go sell on the streets without fear of repercussions, do to moral degradation from people stealing and the people that made the laws easier on this people.
Oh trust me I know what that looks like live poor all my life been deploy to plays that are literal shit shows but at the end of the day letting people do what they want is what this country was made on as long as your not hurting others let them live there life if that means there life crumbles that's on them no skin off my bones
funny part i would never ever sub to onlyfans or fansly why cause there shit already leaked on google or reddit i can look at that shit for free with my friends and we would sit there just rating or roasting either the set up or giving our opinion on the make up etc like i stop getting sexually attracted to pornstars in my early 20s since i see there outfit outside everyday now lol
I find it a shame he didn't go into the psychological damage doing adult content does to the people doing it. Self Harm and Self Termination have been rampant in that industry for generations. OnlyFans bringing so many new people into that industry without the foreknowledge of the dangers is the real damage. If people are going to do it (and we all know that they will) then I beg them to be in regular contact with a psych professional that they can trust.
Im sorry Savii but if you care about morals and society as a whole, you do you stops being an acceptable answer
Exactly
I dont agree with how and what people are doing its not my cup of tea but stuff like this has been happening for so long not to mention lets just say fuck it I agree what will you do with the brainrot community that is doing it you cant there stuck in there ways sadly
There's no money in OF for the creators though, these kind of sites deliberately promote the 99th percentile of users who were either famous before hand or where ahead of the market saturation, most creators are being digitally pimped out by the company for less than mcdonald wages. It's such a high time preference mindset that gimps future prospects even the ones who can afford the lambo are making a mistake by buying one imho.
I used to be a "I don't care, do what you want" person like 10 years ago but now I'm like "Yeah... letting people do what they want is kinda why things are getting worse." Maybe there is a reason every successful society had a "moral" type system and then crashed once they stopped enforcing them *cough* Rome *cough*
The messed up part is that you don’t even have to look back that far in history to see letting ppl do whatever they want is a net negative for society. Just look up Weimar Germany and its haunting parallels to modern day America…
When two standards are compared:
The lower standard will be filled. Naturally.
Even when it can negatively influence others. Example being OF. I made a joke to a woman some time ago and it was along the lines, “Of course I don’t objectify women. Women do that enough themselves”.
Ultimately, standards exist for a reason. Throwing morales away for hyper individualism is self-destructive. And it is for society, but with people who have a “f*ck society” mindset, they will not care. While society must recognize the individual, so must the individual recognize they are apart of the society.
@@kazhukov8996 Women got gaslit into thinking dancing naked for the price of a cheese burger was "empowerment" and it is basically the average male fantasy of the 1940s. "You do you" and it's consequences will be felt for generations
Rules and morals are boring anyways. What are you, a nerd and a teacher's pet?
I feel like this video was pretty surface level compared to other videos that talked about OF there are alot of problems that he didn't talk about, like how the average money gotten from OF or fansly is like under 200$ on average and that it's very hard to get a living wage from just doing it.
Oh I bet I think he just hit on the big sellers
I think don't have a difference betven 18 year or the 21 years old age limit. Because, i still remember when i turned 18 and i still don't get the adult mentality, same in 21, but you can't rise the age limit because the "joung adults (18 - 21)" need the experience what make them real, responsible adults. The bad parts is, when they make decision what folow them all around they live, but can't erase it and no one can do against anything.
I don't really think it ruined the whole generation, but the platform has made some young people arrogant.
It definitely did, let's be honest people aren't gonna wife up a girl with only fans if they know what's good for them
@@dream6562 I get what you are saying. The embarrassment and ridicule. But people don't care about that due to everyone being so materialistic nowadays. (Sorry for the late response, I have been busy)
@thedredayshow9246 idk you definitely see effort being put into turning things around into reverse mode so I do think there is hope if the movement keeps up
@@dream6562 really? How so?
There is such a small percentage of people at the top of onlyfans who get rich off of it. People in the top 20% make like 150 dollars a month. You have to be the top 0.1% to make a living off of it. To most people it's just a side hustle and they all have other jobs. The dude in the video is blowing it way out of proportion
20:19 i believe the phrase is "more money more problems"
That's the one
People who only fans need help. Mental health
I wonder how many women drop out of college or quit regular jobs just to "spread it" on OF.
ESPECIALLY if they got tonnes of dept from previously mentioned college that they struggling to pay off...
Maybe it's just me but people that subscribed to her OF may as well been older dudes. They were waiting for Danielle to be legal so they won't get ousted.
My moral complaint with OF and Fansly is how they are promoted on websites that are not adult only. Fansly is one of Twitch's biggest sponsors and Twitch has a massive child audience. If you wanna make porn, you do you. But if you advertise it to children then you belong in prison next to EDP, Dr., Cody Ko, and Ava Tyson.
6:27 those types of stories are only possible with a support base already in place. She already had fans, a lot of creepy ones as well (who the fuck looks at a 15 year old with the thought "only 3 more years until I won't go to prison!"), who shilled out the cash when she made the announcement. Now I'm not saying you couldn't, I know it was probably mostly a joke, but if you were serious, I'd wait until your subscription count was up in the hextuple numbers before making one. Make it a 10 dollar subscription, then after 5 months drop it down and make it another announcement. Since it's subscription based, you can do only a few videos every month, and even skip some months after a while saying "sorry, I'm hurting" or "sorry, there was no good partners" or "sorry, my toy broke" and still pull in money for no work. Not as much, but enough so long as you don't abuse it. Hell you can even just use your Avatar and make shitty 3d hentai with it and people will still pay if you got a loyal fan base. Especially if you voice it. Technically you don't have to give up any dignity because you can turn it into an ironic skit channel where the loyal viewers get a small taste of you maybe some skimpy clothing before some one interrupts you in a funny manner, pull a joke, then end video and you'll probably find a small dedicated audience if you keep the funny up enough
Hear me out, start an OF but put nothing on it.
put blurred out photos on it. 😂
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@LanceLeaderSawyer make it so it's different each time so you can say there new content everyday.
Banger video Savii! Love these so much, not only we get a reaction, but we also get to meditate on certain points. Personally I think this is one symptom of social media and the need to get attention, at whatever cost, and its consequences for you and your family down the line.
My motto is live and let die, you are free to do whatever with your body as long as you don't cause harm to others, "morals" be damned, which is fancy word to look down on different opinions, but also I draw the line when people with children are involved as it can lead to some nasty situations later on. And yes, I am aware that there have been women doing awful things to feed their families, I just would like it to be more options for them than that.
Sorry for the essaying, but this is a very interesting topic that needs addressing
So happy your enjoying them hope I can do better
I f*cking OF like I don't care about the adult video actors all that much but OF is different compared to other sites and stuff because it's EVERYWHERE
I have seen it on youtube shorts, tiktok and every social media platform not the adult stuff of course but I mean the ads from the women who do it. I work at a school and one day the students (grade4 and 5) where watching youtube shorts on the tv so there was no account connected to the TV and man I have seen like so many girls who say stuff like "I bought this house with OF" or the one I seen the kids watch about a girl who got her friend eye surgery and the first thing her friend saw after getting the surgery was something like "YOUR SURGERY WAS PAID BY OF" and man this is the biggest lie because on everage OF girls get like 300$ which is average that means in actuallity most of the money goes to the top and actual most average for women who aren't in the top 10% will be paid like 100-200$ which is not livable.
I just hate how OF is everywhere I can't stand it.
Your F the morals mentality is how we got here, why do normies fail to see the end result of your nihilistic mindset?
Dudes (and not even exclusively guys) but people liking younger/underage children has always been a thing.. it just hasn't always been "illegal" how it is now. think about the era that "Game Of Thrones" is based on.. it was normal back in the medieval times & after too... sadly.. especially when dealing with "royalty" types.. they were so weird not only would they marry young kids.. but they would even have kids with family members.. like not just 3rd-4th cousins type deals.. like straight up brothers and sisters having kids. to keep wealth in the family type beats.
19:55 "OH OH IM SORRY, IM SORRY... I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA!!!" - Randy Marsh (South Park)
I know back in history it was like that, being an adult and death was close to each other to the age of 30 to 40.
All 30+ years old people would die of old age.
The Age gap itself I agree is questionable, it does depend on how big it is 10, 12, 14, 18, or 20. or 8, 6, 4 or 2.
when does the age the age gap become more than just Questionable? Does it matter if it was a older man or woman( in their 30s who dates women or men in their 20s?
no Onlyfans or Fansly.... but Patreon 👀 also I think íts better platform to support your fav streamer
The shill hahaha
A lot of Only fans people making 6 figures if not bigger 7 figures. With just a subscription fee. And the 4,99 often includes only basic stuff. The bigger content requires often a higher tire which gets expensive really fast, sometimes including fan made videos. Depending on the build, while there are people out there for every kind of woman (and men), it would be easy to get the million in around a month. I mean: I won't strip naked just to earn money, I am not that kind of guy 😂 but earning that much... I would buy a house for my mother who is sitting in a wheelchair since her work accident. She always supported me so that would be me paying back her ultimate kindness. But not that way. Selling myself/my pictures for money? No thanks 😂 but that is just me, I won't really judge as long as there is no hypocritical statement involved (like saying ewwww, onlyfans but seeing the pay, jumping onto that platform as if there is something for free).
It didnt ruin a gen. But it sure poured gas on a gaping wound. It was already bad but this exasperated the issues.
16:26 got that Sakura drip lol
where are the farmers? onlyfarms obviously where the cows take selfies
off topic but , the im old remark isnt that needed
the internet has taught it that there is a fanboy for everyhing
you might think you are old but in reality somewhere out there there is a small army of fanboys and fangirls who would stan for you
so have that reminder any tme life gets too much :)