I always like how Legend of Spyro made it to where there was a purple dragon born every 10 generations. It made it easy to imagine all versions of Spyro canon to each other, just at different time periods.
But that would imply that the Classic series would be set far in our future as Skylanders would be set in present time according to the introduction cutscene. The only evidence that may suggest what I am saying is that The Darkness and any war associated with it is virtually nonexistent in the Classic series, whereas in Legend, Hero's Tail, and Skylanders, it did exist and there was an ongoing war between Light and Dark in those series.
@@X2011racer My personal thoughts were that if all the games were canon to each other then it would chronologicaly be listed as such: Legends, Skylanders, and then Classic. My reasoning? It's very simple, (I really didn't think too hard on the matter) Legends shows the planet being whole. Skylanders shows the planet is in pieces like it is at the end of Legends. And finally Classic also has the planet in pieces since most of the stages are surrounded by empty sky and you use teleportation to get from island to island like in Skylanders, I think(never played Skylanders myself), with the exception of hot air balloons in the case of the first Classic Spyro game. Not to mention, I think the second Classic shows Spyro teleporting to a different dimension which is also in Skylanders if we go by the fact that in the Skylanders TV series we see Crash bandicoot being dropped in through a worm hole.
@@benkayvfalsifier3817 unfortunately, the broken world at the end of Dawn of the Dragon can't be Skylands. All of Skylands were created by the Ancients (Basically the gods of Skylands). But at the end of Dawn of the Dragon, the new world is shown to be already created.
@@Lionwoman the lore of legends all but confirmed that malfore was a corrupted purple dragon he's evil to it makes sence skylanders takes place either way before or way after the spyro legends and spyro trilogy
You have to remember that during all three Legends games, you were able to unlock Aether/Breath with cheats, and in the Dawn of the Dragons, he AND Cynder were able to breathe Aether
Does that include A New Beginning? I don't remember ever being able to use Aether breath in that one, or a cheat for it, but that would have been cool if there were.
@@Ospyro3em Yeah, mate, I think I do remember playing the GBA game and having a code for it. I've even tried looking for cheats myself, but I haven't been able to find the website I got it off of. Last I remember, and I'm adding this myself, even before being able to use Aether in the second game during Gaul's fight, you could use Aether.
@@pg0460 Nice! Personally, my favourite is the Dark Mode you can unlock on the GBA version of The Eternal Night- it's basically a Super Easy mode as you're permanently Dark Spyro and move at double speed and have infinite health and Aether breath 😄
@@Ospyro3em GameShark does, there is even videos on atleast two people's channels of them getting it but Spyro freezes after using the Fury, it is part of the programming because it is acting like you are still in the fight and the game sees it that way so Fury not able to be used freely, hopefully a Remaster can change that and you can use Fury freely & indefinitely with the Element active.
I remember PS2 Eternal Night having an arena challenge mode after the Story, and by beating it, you can swap to Dark Spyro with L3. Closest in New Beginning was that ultra form in the final boss arena (or I guess Aether Spyro)
Dark Spyro SHOULD have been a boss in Dawn of the Dragon. Ignitus was Spyro's father (Jared Pullen confirmed it) so seeing him die for him should've been his ultimate breaking point: Had Spyro just been a stronger dragon, HE could have put up the barrier instead of Ignitus. Naturally, the sheer frustration and anguish of not being strong enough to save the man who loved and raised him would let him give into the darkness to get him that extra boost of power he needed. It would've been awesome if you would've taken control of JUST Cynder and would've had to fight Spyro. Having to hide from him and wait for an opportune moment to hit him. She knows just how intoxicating dark power is, but Spyro managed to save her from it in the first game. Would've been great to have the roles reversed in the final game: Spyro had saved her from the darkness, now it's time to return the favor.
The Pullen interview is only qualified as semi-canon. It’s not certain if the part where Ignitus was really Spyro’s father was official in the final version of the game because there wasn’t enough time to get everything planned into the game, but it could be the case in semi-canon territory at best. Had the info been solid canon in the game, it would make a lot of sense for his fatherly personality.
@@mysryuza Even if Ignitus wasn't Spyro's father, he was the closest thing he had to one. Not to mention a biological connection doesn't matter since Ignitus never called Spyro 'son'.
While he was definitely an adoptive father for Spyro, no one confirmed it nor in the game, nor in the interview, it was only told as an idea that they were contemplating. So even though I agree with this comment on other points, you should really edit out that "Jared Pullen confirmed it" bit to stop spreading misinformation. Or else people would read your comment, believe in it without a second thought and then argue to their deathbed against someone who states otherwise. And that would just be mean towards that person who says the truth but gets accused of lying, because "Jared Pullen confirmed it! Prove? My prove is that UA-cam comment said so!"
Dark Spyro is just so flipping awesome and has loads of potential. I want a game where we can play as Spyro and transform into his dark counterpart whenever we want. It would provide a fresh coat of paint on the gameplay aspect to get creative with and it would grant a really great twist to the story. Maybe Spyro needs to inherit this unstable dark power in order to stop a greater evil, but the longer he has it or the more he uses it, the more deranged he starts to become. It provides him abilities to notice things he wouldn’t be able to see with his normal pure senses, it makes some enemies run away in fear when he uses them creatively, and it grants him access to dark cursed areas. But as the story goes on and he learns more about using the darkness, he becomes more unstable and brutal, steering away from his initial noble goal to the point where he has to try tearing the darkness out of his body to come back to his heroic senses before it’s too late and the darkness fully consumes him. THAT is a story I would love Spyro to have!
This all feels like an amalgamation that all the games from Hero's Tail, through the Legend era, into Skylanders, and even the Crash side... being all coherently canon in some way. Never thought I'd ever see it this way, but this has much more respect in source material than intended. Everything feeling interconnected is just really awesome to see.
Fun fact about that, I don't really remember where I heard this but the developers of Skylanders said that the Spyro in there game IS the one from the Legend games. The Skylands is where Spyro and Cinder ended up at the end of Dawn of the Dragon.
I honestly think that Dark Spyro has a place in the Classic (now Reignited) timeline. There could easily be a game with a plot involving Dark energy, even if it means borrowing or recycling elements from A Hero's Tail or Shadow Legacy. Basically there being Dark energy you can collect and when your meter is full, activating Dark Spyro for a limited amount of time.
Tho what would Dark Spyro do in classic series considering unlike Legend, combat isn't really the point in those games what is why most enemies die in 1 hit?
@@V-Jes they could have areas that only Dark Spyro can enter (maybe blocked off by Dark/Aether energy), enemies that chan only be hurt by Dark Spyro, or special chests that can only be opened by Dark Spyro's Aether breath.... I dunno, there's plenty of potential.
The question is, are they using Dark Spyro to make inter-continuity references, or are they trying to tie this all together into some crossover plotline? Perhaps he'll be the main villain in Spyro 4? Cynder having to deal with him would be interesting.
I love Dark Spyro and his intrigant history. The idea of a hero having an evil side is always interesting and attractive, and Dark Spyro has to be one of my favorites thanks to his evolution. Honestly I didn't look that hard onto the dark crystals in A Hero's Tail but there is logic in that its corruption could affect living beings. TLOS was off the rails with Dark Spyro, as the first thing he did was kill Gaul in the most badass way in TEN, and in DOTD he came back after Ignitus' death, so he is linked by Spyro's emotional state. (Also I laughed at Spyro and Cynder's casual talk off the script, that was so good) In Skylanders is even more complicated, as Spyro being able to control every element is more susceptible to corruption and that he doesn't only got a dark form, also managed to control it is epic. In Academy, to split his two sides is another great concept as basically gives his dark form a body. And in Crash, he was just there in CTR, but in OTR, he was already another dragon with dimensional conquer plans. That's going an extra mile. What I love about Dark Spyro, is how he trascends in concept and character throught every Spyro media and related, in slightly different ways but always remaining in canon to each series. Gotta admit they did great in respecting the source material since TLOS and beyond with more interesting characteristics to its lore. And this makes it look like interconnected like a chain of events, that gets bigger. Indeed, Dark Spyro has an interesting story through the years, now let's wait to see what's in store for him.
I love the idea that Legend's Dark Spyro is a metaphor for the "dark side" that exists in everyone. That Dark Spyro represents the bad thing you can do when you are overwhelmed with anger, fear or sadness. It's by far my favorite version of Dark Spyro. Not an actual character, but a metaphor for giving in to anger and sadness.
I actually had this crazy theory once when I was younger that Spyro, from the OG Spyro games, somehow was either related to, or even WAS Malefor in the LOS trilogy. I noticed how in the legend they were referred to as Dragon "Elders" not guardians. The Dragon Elders are the adult dragons in the OG world. My theory was that since the only breath that was available in the OG games was fire, and new Breaths sprouting out later, he was tempted by the dark gems that he had encountered, and became the Dark Master through those. This was an early theory, and I know better now, just thought I might share it here.
So, somewhat related note regarding Malefor. During the Skylanders game series, there was a 3 part comic that came out about Malefor's return. Now, he was hinted in the game lore before, mainly with Cynder being stolen and corrupted by him to be terror of the Skies, and then also with another Skylander named Hex, who fought Malefor and forced him to hide deep in the underworld, where he had to patch his body together from various injuries he got and a steampunk style armor that absorbed magic.(note, he did appear as a purple dragon as well in this series) Now, he did manage to leave the underworld after absorbing the powers of Spyro, Hex, and Cynder, where he then attacked the Skylanders Academy, where he defeated others and absorbed their powers. Difference with this was instead of the darkness, he apparently wielded a type of undead magic, which allowed him to turn others to he under his control, as well as explain why he went after Hex, to learn her knowledge and powers of undead magic. Now, malefor was defeated and cast into the depths of skylands by being chained to the dread-yacht, which was then shoved over the edge of a island, so his fate is unknown. Now, the one thing is Malefor claims he and Spyro fought before these events, but Spyro has no recollection. I know, unrelated to the main topic, but just some tidbit info from a Skylanders fan
Regarding that last paragraph, it's hinted that more on that would have been explored, but the IDW comics were cancelled after two or three more issues.
I have a wild guess on that last bit. So, this version of Malefor looks a lot more similar to his TLOS counterpart than the Skylanders version. In addition, purple dragons can manipulate the flow of time, so space probably wouldn't be that far out of the question. Further, TLOS Malefor never actually died, he was only sealed within the planet's core. After a very long time, could he have been freed once more, only to discover how to open interdimensional rifts, travelling to the Skylanders universe? Or possibly, could something from the Skylanders universe, such as a rogue portal master, have pulled him there?
The question is, are they using Dark Spyro to make inter-continuity references, or are they trying to tie this all together into some crossover plotline? Perhaps he'll be the main villain in Spyro 4? Cynder having to deal with him would be interesting.
I want them to tie everything up, tie up the lose plot holes this series has so we won't be confused and it won't be a mess like Fnaf's lore. Either they do it or I'll come along and do it, paid or not I'll do it for free or a penny.
@@kagemushashien8394 That's not a plot hole, they're separates continuities, unless you think the Spyro event in Crash On the run was implying otherwise.
Dude, you are reading my mind! I always saw this stuff as timeline order. In Skylanders Academy, we get Spyro and dark Spyro, which leads to crash on the run, as well as the main original Spyro series. In fact, when Spyro goes to a new realm to find his family, he is the only dragon not affected by Gnasty gnorc’s spell, because he’s not a dragon from the dragon Realm. Eventually, dark Spyro decides to take the name of Malfor, and becomes the villain of the legend of Spyro. then the next Spyro is born, becomes corrupted, and at the end of the game he and Cynder are transported to the realm of Skylanders, where thanks to eon, he learns to control the darkness. Also, dark Spyro returns once again as the undead Malfor in the Skylanders comic.
What I think about Dark Spyro is that Dark Spyro got split from regular Spyro and then the two Spyros battle each for the fate of the Dragon Realms. Spyro send Dark Spyro to a another realm. When Spyro came to Crash Bandicoot’s realm, Dark Spyro plans to take over all of the realm and all of the different universe. So Crash, Coco, and Spyro must team up to stop Dark Spyro from accomplishing Dark Spyro’s goals. By possible chance, I think that Dark Spyro should be the main villain in Spyro 4. It would explain much more about the events from previous games while introducing a new story for all of us. It would be cool to have Dark Spyro team up with all the villains from the originals all the way to the Skylander series. Great video CGE👍
I love that Dark Spyro is even getting love now. I’m so used to SEGA just only doing things that relate to the classics and that be the most of it. That Spyro, granted isn’t owned by SEGA, even has anything that isn't the classics be acknowledged at this level. Even though many Spyro fans hates the Legends and Skylanders eras. The same goes for Crash.
There are dark crystals in Skylanders Swap Force called petrified darkness. They’re used to turn good or neutral beings evil, and I think they also led to the dark versions of some skylanders besides Spyro.
I still prefer the OG, his ability to attack at lightning speed and a combination of his normal attacks done when he is up in the air including flips with a violent smack at the end and his Dark Aether/Nether Fury are far more frightening while also able to turn big threats like Gaul to stone and slowly, the Fury also shatters Gaul to pieces.
Probably helps that he was introduced in the continuity based around combat more than anything else. I feel like he won't be very interesting to control unless it's in another beat em' up, or maybe a fighting game. Something that can let his more aggressive nature shine.
This went way deeper than I expected, but I always found the Dark Gems in A Hero's Tail interesting... Makes me appreciate that game just a bit more as it really set stuff in motion.
just wanted to point out that Skylanders swap force also focuses a lot on the premis of crystals that corrupt beings, the "crystalized darkness" as it is refered as and it makes many inocent creatures evil.
Yay finally!! First Spyro video since May! 😃 This one was really interesting to me! I like the analysis and explanations and it got me thinking… Remember the rebirth theory? It seems like it ties in a lot with the stuff from this video. I wonder if we could find out a little bit of the plot to Spyro 4 by looking at elements in which all 3 reboots have in common. Really, nice video! This one is one of my favorites that you have made! Keep up the good work! I hope to see more Spyro content from you soon! 😉
Honestly, nitpicking about some aspects of the story of Eternal Night and DotD is pretty much hating. No need to do that, honestly, I don't care for these plot things. It's like inspecting why Captain America's shield always bounces to him and defies physics. Nobody cares, honestly. Me neither. Also, I'm writing this also because I like eternal night, but also because we all know you hate those games. No need to emphasize it every single time. We know.
Meadow here… Did we ship the version of TLoS TEN where you can replay the whole game as Dark Spyro and all the dark elements or is that on a build on the cutting room floor, along with the several variations of the Gaul ending it took to get within ESRB. …also thank-you for putting this video together. Very well researched and thorough. One gem I would like to share, you showed uncovered, connects the crystals together… you may have missed it while Dark Spyro certainly didn’t. Hope that’s cryptic enough but clear enough to help.
I remember hearing a theory a few years ago about how the 3 era (Classic, Legend, Skylanders) were in the same continuity but at different point in time. That theory goes to say that since Malefor was the first purple dragon and he wasn't mentioned in the classic games, Classic Spyro had to be Malefor's true identity. The theory was also backed up with Classic Spyro learning to control other elements in the gameboy advance games which I think were set after the events of the first trilogy. I've only played the first 3 games on PS1 (and eventually the remake on PS4) so I don't know if this theory has any credibility to it. Still, I did loved the idea behind it as it was the first time I had heard of the different era possibly being linked together.
Personally i wouldnt read too deep into the lore between A Hero's Tail and the TLoS trilogy. The reason being: Those games are from very different teams and the games of TLoS use some very generic elements in their stories. While yes, they do make a callback to Spyro 2 in form of Hunter, that Hunter doesnt have anything to do with any other character than spyro and Cynder. That is really it. Dark crystals are more of a McGuffin to be like "Dark master uses darkness, darkness bad, dark crystals bad" and it has been done many times in games and storytelling before. Thats something anyone can think up when they need something people need to collect/destroy/fight something that belongs to the bad guy that uses dark powers.
Un-ironically having crash music in the background of a Spyro game made me subscribe, and this is my first time watching anything on this channel, it appeared in my recommended from watching stuff about metal gear solid
Small note about the "crystal stasis" In the Nintendo DS version of the game it is stated to be a "Time Fury" which causes it. So he basically traps them in a time bubble. And Spyro has been shown to have furies for all his other elements, so why would Time not have one? So we do technically get an explanations
The Time Crystal was the Time Fury. But like the Convexity Fury in A New Beginning, The Time Fury exhausts Spyro of his powers, so he loses Time as a consequence. Obviously, him being chained to Cynder in Dawn of the Dragon means that Time would be counterproductive as it would have no affect for Cynder, meaning that only Spyro could speed up in real time. Outside of lore, it's a gameplay balance concern.
@@X2011racer I don't rememebr it ever stating that he LOSES Time control. I'd assume he stil has it. but we the player just can't use it because, well like you said, it'd make things awkward gameplaywise with controlling Cynder
@@0MidnighttheDragon0When the Chronicler restored Spyro's powers and gave Cynder new powers, The Chronicler never mentioned Time at all. Plus, before they meet The Chronicler, Spyro and Cynder were unable to use their powers after Awakening in DOTD, meaning that they both lost their powers during the Time Skip. In Spyro's case, his Time Fury exhausted him of all his powers, and in Cynder's case, her existing powers were lost after her defeat in ANB, hence why Cynder couldn't fight that well in the very few instances where she fights in TEN.
Great video! Love having an in-depth history of a kinda obscure character/lore for Spyro. One thing you missed though: In the GBA version of The Legend of Spyro: The Eternal Night, Dark Spyro is depicted with black scales, silver horns/wings and red eyes, predating the Skylanders version of Dark Spyro. So technically the black scales/silver horns color scheme DID originate from the Legends series, just from one of the handheld versions of the second game. Similar to the console versions, you could unlock "dark mode" and play the whole game as Dark Spyro too.
This is really random, but I always wondered, if there was a Spyro game featuring an adult Spyro, if he would be bipedal like the other adult dragons 🤔
two spyros in the 'Spyro the Dragon' series?? This is an interesting direction for things to go because although I doubt the writers would think about it as much as I do, i'm just thinking about the implications of the fact previously Malefor and Spyro were two different characters but now Dark Spyro and Spyro are two versions of the same character. I also thought about this in the show "Ultraman Ginga", where the hero was also split apart from this "excised" evil entity. what did it mean that Ginga once had Dark Lugiel as part of him? what does it mean that Spyro once had Dark Spyro as part of him? are the games going to finally address the idea Spyro was originally presented as an antihero character who could only have a terrifying edgy girlfriend? is Dark Spyro an exaggerated reflection of who Spyro really is? or alternatively, is Spyro going to realise he can only stop Dark Spyro because he intuitively knows the good aspects of Dark Spyro?
At this point, who knows? So far Dark Spyro is now kinda important to Spyro himself. He'll show up now and then so I feel like it could be possibly hinting that he could make a major appearance one day?
I wish Spyro Academy got finished, sadly we wont see it finished because of many different reasons, it was starting to get good there at the end but we will never know the ending of that series.
i like old school spyro better than the new personality they have him, old slyro had some spice to him like ratchet did in his older series. i guess they dont want them sounding mean or something.
6:04 In Eternal Night the Dragon Chronicler he learned the Spyro how to slow down the time, in the crystal part Spyro probably just use it as a way to protect them from mountain collapse
Loved everything of this video and from someone that is not so deep in spyro lore this was amazing, thank you for the great gathering of info in dark spyro! 💜 🖤
The origins of Dark Spyro is A Heroes Tail, interesting, also it is cool how it began to take shape in the Legend of Spyro, and then only gain importance in Skylanders, finally appearing in CTR Nitro Fueled and then Crash on the Run! Interesting how after he “dies” in Academy he isn’t truly dead, as he returns later on for CTR Nitro Fueled and Crash on the Run.
12:33 actually if you look at TLoS TEN on the DS there is actually the FIRST instance of the silver and black Dark Spyro, thats where they got the idea from, the DS game version of The Eternal Night was the actual first instance of black, red and silver Dark Spyro
If they’re gonna bring back Dark Spyro and Dark Gems then they have to bring back Ember and Flame, we some sort of multiplayer option for classic spyro and the whole gang, Spyro, Cynder, Ember, Flame. The fans would go nuts
This was a great video! One thing possibly worth mentioning is that dark spyros character bio from the crash OTR twitter says he is from the legend of spyro series, with his quote being from DotD. The reason OTR has 2 spyros could be one of them is from the legend universe, having been corrupted again sometime after DotD. I know his design is different but that could be chalked up to artistic differences / reusing assets. But if true, this would be the first crossover between classic and legend spyro, and would confirm my headcanon that all three spyros are their own dimensions in the Crash multiverse
Also, if spyro and cynder got sent to another dimension at the end of dotd, that would explain why the chronicler couldn't find them in his magic books anymore
Imo dark Spyro is skylanders looked better then regular spyro cuz they gave regular Spyro this ugly dark glossy purple and bronze. As someone who owns almost every skylander, I won’t shill a bad design.
You forgot about the game called Spyro shadow legacy . It's for the Nintendo ds . It has Spyro go through both the dragon realm and the dark realm throughout the game to save everyone .
i like to imagine being in Skylands and showing off the Spyro, Dark Spyro, and Legendary Spyro figurines, saying to the Skylanders that the Legendary one is what happens when Spyro and Dark Spyro combine their two Aether energies.
I will say, there was a version of skylanders: spyro's adventure that featured dark spyro and normal spyro as 2 different dragons, with similar but different movesets as well (kinda like an echo fighter from smash)! That would be the 3DS version! So technically, Spyro and Dark spyro have been 2 separate people long before skylanders academy (and why academy can be consider non-canon, but 2 diff spyros is still canon)
Fun Facts about Dark Spyro: 1. In Crash on the Run, Dark Spyro's name in Spanish is "Spyro Siniestro", which literally translates to "Sinister Spyro", rather than something like "Spyro Sombrío". Perhaps this is due to the fact that bosses in that game have recolors, and Dark Spyro is no exception, boasting 4 different color schemes, but only 2 colors, Nitro (Default color) and Oxide (purple and green) got used. 2. In Skylanders Academy, Dark Spyro is never referred to as Dark Spyro at any point in the show, only referred as Spyro. However, some rare Promotional material seems to name Dark Spyro as "Evil Spyro", which is interesting as none of the episode synopses do this, nor do the Season 3 credits, which credit Jason Ritter as "Spyro", and leave out Justin Long outright, despite Long actually voicing the Heroic version of Spyro for the last 3 episodes and Ritter voicing the Evil version for the Season 2 finale (uncredited) and the entirety of Season 3. 3. In Skylanders: Ring of Heroes, Dark Spyro was renamed Shadow Spyro, alongside other Dark variants of certain Skylanders. I guess it was a consequence of localization decisions from Korean to English, as Com2Us is a Korean developer and English isn't their native language.
Another fact: You can unlock a permanent dark spyro transformation in eternal night by doing a cheat code. It is overpowered as hell and makes the play through extremely easy lol.
I'm a spyro casual I guess because I had no idea the lore went that deep. What is it about taking the main character and then making them black with red eyes that is so appealing?
I wish Skylanders Academy had one last season. Spyro finds his family and uncorrupts them, meanwhile the Skylanders find Dark Spyro and try to train him to become a Skylander. Dark Spyro was turning good up until Strykor tightened his grip, he started out bad but the team grew on him as his own person, so maybe they’d use that to make him good. We know Spyro survived the blast and there’s no way Dark Spyro wouldn’t have survived either, not to mention he was actually winning against Spyro but “power of friendship” had Spyro + Dark use their most powerful attacks and boom. Dark Spyro was the least injured of the pair, so if Spyro, who was actively wincing in pain, can survive a huge blast like that, so can Dark.
My biggest gripe with Skylanders, and all toys to life games by extent, is the need to constantly buy more of the figures. If it were rebooted in a way that you'd unlock characters over time while playing, I'd have gotten all of em, same with the other TTL games. Edit: Spelling
@@Theagentofchaos-r5q If you don't get more toys, you can't access a huge portion of the game, because you get three elements and one movement ability in the starter pack.
@@avon_the_trash_king6966 I do get your gripe I call you they replace this in superchargers with vehicle sections but if you do ignore all that all the Skylander games are great
01:34 The chests are trolling me since my first time this like, partially absolutly doesn't matter how I'm with my skills and in this game. ^^ Intro is a little bit to loud btw.
Here is me holing for a Spyro 4 that takes the best ideas from Dragonfly and Hero's tail and brings them together into something that actually feels like a spyro 4. For crash 5, i want the elemental masks and crunch back after 4 teased both
Also I think it would be cool to have a game that solely focused on the Spyro villians. I mean wouldn't it be cool to play as Dark Spyro, Malfor, or maybe even the original trilogy enemies/bosses?
This is why I'm a legends fan, I grew up with it and i don't think it deserves the hate that it has. I personally think it has the best lore and gameplay. The game is still about a purple dragon but this time, one that can slow time ( Dragon time in The Eternal Night) and breathe multiple elements such as lightning, fire, ice, earth and even darkness at times. Plus, Cynder has an AMAZING BACKSTORY! The dark element logo is also pretty cool. Not so sure about the skylanders series though. I have a lot of mixed feelings about that
Mirror counterparts at each other just like the yin and yang symbol that's exactly the same but totally opposite. Did you say that hero's greatest enemy is usually themselves
Spyro was my first Video Game that I ever played and It got me into Gaming. Plus back then My Memory Cards didn’t work properly so I had to replay all of them from start to finish every time I wanted to play, it definitely helped me develop my Memory Skills though. Spyro is to this day still my Favorite Game Series, and I miss A Heroes Tail, and The Legend Series. When the Reignited Trilogy came out I Bought it Instantly. However I’ve never been a fan of the Skylanders Version, I just can’t 🤣. Still though I would love it if we got a Remake of the Legend Series.
I guess that may be true. Dark Spyro never showed up in the original trilogy. But Spyro 2 had cheat codes where if you put in certian buttons you can change Spyro's color. Black was one of those options.
You want to see Dark Spyro again? Perhaps if it makes it easier for him to lose his cool and have less care about bystanders (basically corrupt emotion), but I'm more interested in Cynder and how she ties into all this. Cynder was basically corrupted since birth and has been forced to do the bidding of an evil master with no will of her own. This forced her to unwillingly assist in wiping her own species to near extinction (pretty dark stuff), and you would not want to have a history in that. It's honestly why I feel more concerned about her. at first she wanted to get away from all this and not get involved, finding her own destiny (being her own master) and redeems herself by fighting the one responsible when she's effectively forced to by the chain (gotta give her credit for not being a burden). Her experience in warfare has shown since she recommended flooding the canyon to halt the destroyers advance. I can't blame for wanting no part in such an endeavor, but she pulled through with it until the end. And after all Spyro has done to grant Cynder her continued freedom (such as rushing to her rescue despite the chronicler telling him not to), I can see why she fell for him. But about her black scales. It's evident she was naturally born a wind dragon, but she had black scales and silver horns (much like Dark Spyro) which does not match the colors shown for the wind elements symbol. Yet she manages to keep herself under control as she's free. A change in art direction aside, she still has her dark powers from her dark past but uses them for good redeeming herself. And Dark Aether doesn't seem to corrupt her unless someone else infuses their own magic into her. It hurt all that much harder when Skull put his spell on her in Skylanders Academy. Hasn't she been through enough. Not to mention Eon left her for dead in the entire third season and only deployed a rescue squad because they needed her powers rather than show some actual concern for her. I'm not even convinced Malefor is related to her (since he has lied and said sketchy things before). Conclusion, Dark Aether twists the will of individuals to do terrible deeds. And honestly, I wish they hadn't forced the TLoS trilogy to have such limited time and resource to be made. It could have been more fleshed out, perhaps in a remake, or an animated adaptation. Either way, I'd love to see an angry Dark Spyro blast away at Malefors army after Ignitus's death. My huge softspot for that trilogy is the potential. And say what you will about Dawn of the Dragons gameplay being different. But the button mapping opens up a whole new world of possibilities for dragon capabilities. I'd like one of his earth abilities to be a giant pair of floating rock fists. Imagine grabbing and punching with those. One such ability could be a ROCK-et punch (I regret nothing).
It depends on your perspective but there was a cheat code that turned him black, so its a yes but no in the original spyro that he appeared in it, but even in the original the lore stated the dragons was the embodiment of magic itself, so one could say they are the avatars of the natural force of magic, another good way of explaining is if you are familiar with discworlds colour of magic and the light fantastic, the purple/magenta is the final colour, so spyro being what he is is the most sensitive to all forms of magic, in its own way you could say he is a royal dragon as the purple and gold colours signify royalty, which would check out with malefors "corrupt king"
I honestly think the LoS version of Dark Spyro looks better than the Skylanders version, even though it's more prominent and fleshed out. I think the smokey black skin with gold accents looks so much better than basically a grayscale copy of the standard Spyro.
I remember playing the original Spyro trilogy back on the PlayStation so many years ago now at this point ha and I can’t remember which game but I swear one of the crystal dragon statues in that game was unobtainable because you could hear the ringing the crystal statue made but it was behind a wall and thus bugged. Did anyone else experience this or was it just my copy that was bugged somehow ? 🤔
I guess back in Spyro a heros tail, Spyro destroys all the dark gems however it dose come at a price. The dark energy starts to absorb into Spyro but Spyro dose not notice it because his preoccupied on stopping red. Red was working for a darker dragon that had dark ather, but Red focused on the dark ather from the dark Crystal's. It was one way to try and get wold domination done. I Just hope in Spyro 4 that we get not only a new or classic bad guy but also Dark Spyro helping them. Imagin, it could be a shadow the hedgehog kind of deal in Sonic Adveture 2/Sonic Battle 2. Where the creatures think Spyro did all these things and try to stop him. (Apart from Hunter and Bianca of course) The second hub world every creature reasises, in some way that it is not Spyro doing this but a darker version of him.
Maybe that's what actually happened to Deathwing instead of actually dying he was cast out of the world of Azeroth into the Skylands and had a dragonet (Cynder) With a lady dragon we will never meet but in reality the fall took away both his memory and removed a few brain cells. Is that a good theory?
I always like how Legend of Spyro made it to where there was a purple dragon born every 10 generations. It made it easy to imagine all versions of Spyro canon to each other, just at different time periods.
But that would imply that the Classic series would be set far in our future as Skylanders would be set in present time according to the introduction cutscene. The only evidence that may suggest what I am saying is that The Darkness and any war associated with it is virtually nonexistent in the Classic series, whereas in Legend, Hero's Tail, and Skylanders, it did exist and there was an ongoing war between Light and Dark in those series.
@@X2011racer According to a video theory on the subject, the first classic Spyro could have been Malefor.
@@X2011racer My personal thoughts were that if all the games were canon to each other then it would chronologicaly be listed as such: Legends, Skylanders, and then Classic. My reasoning? It's very simple, (I really didn't think too hard on the matter) Legends shows the planet being whole. Skylanders shows the planet is in pieces like it is at the end of Legends. And finally Classic also has the planet in pieces since most of the stages are surrounded by empty sky and you use teleportation to get from island to island like in Skylanders, I think(never played Skylanders myself), with the exception of hot air balloons in the case of the first Classic Spyro game. Not to mention, I think the second Classic shows Spyro teleporting to a different dimension which is also in Skylanders if we go by the fact that in the Skylanders TV series we see Crash bandicoot being dropped in through a worm hole.
@@benkayvfalsifier3817 unfortunately, the broken world at the end of Dawn of the Dragon can't be Skylands. All of Skylands were created by the Ancients (Basically the gods of Skylands). But at the end of Dawn of the Dragon, the new world is shown to be already created.
@@Lionwoman the lore of legends all but confirmed that malfore was a corrupted purple dragon he's evil to it makes sence skylanders takes place either way before or way after the spyro legends and spyro trilogy
You have to remember that during all three Legends games, you were able to unlock Aether/Breath with cheats, and in the Dawn of the Dragons, he AND Cynder were able to breathe Aether
Does that include A New Beginning? I don't remember ever being able to use Aether breath in that one, or a cheat for it, but that would have been cool if there were.
@@Ospyro3em Yeah, mate, I think I do remember playing the GBA game and having a code for it. I've even tried looking for cheats myself, but I haven't been able to find the website I got it off of. Last I remember, and I'm adding this myself, even before being able to use Aether in the second game during Gaul's fight, you could use Aether.
@@pg0460 Nice! Personally, my favourite is the Dark Mode you can unlock on the GBA version of The Eternal Night- it's basically a Super Easy mode as you're permanently Dark Spyro and move at double speed and have infinite health and Aether breath 😄
@@Ospyro3em GameShark does, there is even videos on atleast two people's channels of them getting it but Spyro freezes after using the Fury, it is part of the programming because it is acting like you are still in the fight and the game sees it that way so Fury not able to be used freely, hopefully a Remaster can change that and you can use Fury freely & indefinitely with the Element active.
I remember PS2 Eternal Night having an arena challenge mode after the Story, and by beating it, you can swap to Dark Spyro with L3.
Closest in New Beginning was that ultra form in the final boss arena (or I guess Aether Spyro)
Dark Spyro SHOULD have been a boss in Dawn of the Dragon.
Ignitus was Spyro's father (Jared Pullen confirmed it) so seeing him die for him should've been his ultimate breaking point: Had Spyro just been a stronger dragon, HE could have put up the barrier instead of Ignitus. Naturally, the sheer frustration and anguish of not being strong enough to save the man who loved and raised him would let him give into the darkness to get him that extra boost of power he needed.
It would've been awesome if you would've taken control of JUST Cynder and would've had to fight Spyro. Having to hide from him and wait for an opportune moment to hit him. She knows just how intoxicating dark power is, but Spyro managed to save her from it in the first game. Would've been great to have the roles reversed in the final game: Spyro had saved her from the darkness, now it's time to return the favor.
I feel like they might have wanted to do that before remembering "Oh shit, two players."
@@themustachioedfish5988 I mean LEGO Star Wars did just that and it was awesome.
The Pullen interview is only qualified as semi-canon. It’s not certain if the part where Ignitus was really Spyro’s father was official in the final version of the game because there wasn’t enough time to get everything planned into the game, but it could be the case in semi-canon territory at best. Had the info been solid canon in the game, it would make a lot of sense for his fatherly personality.
@@mysryuza Even if Ignitus wasn't Spyro's father, he was the closest thing he had to one. Not to mention a biological connection doesn't matter since Ignitus never called Spyro 'son'.
While he was definitely an adoptive father for Spyro, no one confirmed it nor in the game, nor in the interview, it was only told as an idea that they were contemplating. So even though I agree with this comment on other points, you should really edit out that "Jared Pullen confirmed it" bit to stop spreading misinformation. Or else people would read your comment, believe in it without a second thought and then argue to their deathbed against someone who states otherwise. And that would just be mean towards that person who says the truth but gets accused of lying, because "Jared Pullen confirmed it! Prove? My prove is that UA-cam comment said so!"
Dark Spyro is just so flipping awesome and has loads of potential. I want a game where we can play as Spyro and transform into his dark counterpart whenever we want. It would provide a fresh coat of paint on the gameplay aspect to get creative with and it would grant a really great twist to the story. Maybe Spyro needs to inherit this unstable dark power in order to stop a greater evil, but the longer he has it or the more he uses it, the more deranged he starts to become. It provides him abilities to notice things he wouldn’t be able to see with his normal pure senses, it makes some enemies run away in fear when he uses them creatively, and it grants him access to dark cursed areas. But as the story goes on and he learns more about using the darkness, he becomes more unstable and brutal, steering away from his initial noble goal to the point where he has to try tearing the darkness out of his body to come back to his heroic senses before it’s too late and the darkness fully consumes him. THAT is a story I would love Spyro to have!
that sounds interesting
I like it! I'd play it!
So like Spiderman Web of Shadows but Spyro themed.
I could dig that.
@@kelvliximab2362 what do you mean?
Kinda like Jak 2/Jak 3 from Insomniac....
This all feels like an amalgamation that all the games from Hero's Tail, through the Legend era, into Skylanders, and even the Crash side... being all coherently canon in some way. Never thought I'd ever see it this way, but this has much more respect in source material than intended. Everything feeling interconnected is just really awesome to see.
Fun fact about that, I don't really remember where I heard this but the developers of Skylanders said that the Spyro in there game IS the one from the Legend games. The Skylands is where Spyro and Cinder ended up at the end of Dawn of the Dragon.
I doubt they are all canon to each other. It seems more like common themes and elements being recycled into each separate universe.
I honestly think that Dark Spyro has a place in the Classic (now Reignited) timeline. There could easily be a game with a plot involving Dark energy, even if it means borrowing or recycling elements from A Hero's Tail or Shadow Legacy. Basically there being Dark energy you can collect and when your meter is full, activating Dark Spyro for a limited amount of time.
Tho what would Dark Spyro do in classic series considering unlike Legend, combat isn't really the point in those games what is why most enemies die in 1 hit?
@@V-Jes they could have areas that only Dark Spyro can enter (maybe blocked off by Dark/Aether energy), enemies that chan only be hurt by Dark Spyro, or special chests that can only be opened by Dark Spyro's Aether breath.... I dunno, there's plenty of potential.
@@Ospyro3em that sounds more like the power ups in Spyro 2 and 3 what could make it just be like a reskin of those.
@@V-Jes It was just an idea
I imagine it like Shadow The Hedgehog and his Chaos Meter, where once filled up, he can use his chaos powers at will.
The question is, are they using Dark Spyro to make inter-continuity references, or are they trying to tie this all together into some crossover plotline? Perhaps he'll be the main villain in Spyro 4? Cynder having to deal with him would be interesting.
I love Dark Spyro and his intrigant history.
The idea of a hero having an evil side is always interesting and attractive, and Dark Spyro has to be one of my favorites thanks to his evolution.
Honestly I didn't look that hard onto the dark crystals in A Hero's Tail but there is logic in that its corruption could affect living beings.
TLOS was off the rails with Dark Spyro, as the first thing he did was kill Gaul in the most badass way in TEN, and in DOTD he came back after Ignitus' death, so he is linked by Spyro's emotional state. (Also I laughed at Spyro and Cynder's casual talk off the script, that was so good)
In Skylanders is even more complicated, as Spyro being able to control every element is more susceptible to corruption and that he doesn't only got a dark form, also managed to control it is epic.
In Academy, to split his two sides is another great concept as basically gives his dark form a body.
And in Crash, he was just there in CTR, but in OTR, he was already another dragon with dimensional conquer plans. That's going an extra mile.
What I love about Dark Spyro, is how he trascends in concept and character throught every Spyro media and related, in slightly different ways but always remaining in canon to each series.
Gotta admit they did great in respecting the source material since TLOS and beyond with more interesting characteristics to its lore.
And this makes it look like interconnected like a chain of events, that gets bigger.
Indeed, Dark Spyro has an interesting story through the years, now let's wait to see what's in store for him.
I love the idea that Legend's Dark Spyro is a metaphor for the "dark side" that exists in everyone. That Dark Spyro represents the bad thing you can do when you are overwhelmed with anger, fear or sadness.
It's by far my favorite version of Dark Spyro. Not an actual character, but a metaphor for giving in to anger and sadness.
I actually had this crazy theory once when I was younger that Spyro, from the OG Spyro games, somehow was either related to, or even WAS Malefor in the LOS trilogy. I noticed how in the legend they were referred to as Dragon "Elders" not guardians. The Dragon Elders are the adult dragons in the OG world. My theory was that since the only breath that was available in the OG games was fire, and new Breaths sprouting out later, he was tempted by the dark gems that he had encountered, and became the Dark Master through those. This was an early theory, and I know better now, just thought I might share it here.
So, somewhat related note regarding Malefor. During the Skylanders game series, there was a 3 part comic that came out about Malefor's return. Now, he was hinted in the game lore before, mainly with Cynder being stolen and corrupted by him to be terror of the Skies, and then also with another Skylander named Hex, who fought Malefor and forced him to hide deep in the underworld, where he had to patch his body together from various injuries he got and a steampunk style armor that absorbed magic.(note, he did appear as a purple dragon as well in this series) Now, he did manage to leave the underworld after absorbing the powers of Spyro, Hex, and Cynder, where he then attacked the Skylanders Academy, where he defeated others and absorbed their powers.
Difference with this was instead of the darkness, he apparently wielded a type of undead magic, which allowed him to turn others to he under his control, as well as explain why he went after Hex, to learn her knowledge and powers of undead magic.
Now, malefor was defeated and cast into the depths of skylands by being chained to the dread-yacht, which was then shoved over the edge of a island, so his fate is unknown.
Now, the one thing is Malefor claims he and Spyro fought before these events, but Spyro has no recollection. I know, unrelated to the main topic, but just some tidbit info from a Skylanders fan
Regarding that last paragraph, it's hinted that more on that would have been explored, but the IDW comics were cancelled after two or three more issues.
I have a wild guess on that last bit. So, this version of Malefor looks a lot more similar to his TLOS counterpart than the Skylanders version. In addition, purple dragons can manipulate the flow of time, so space probably wouldn't be that far out of the question. Further, TLOS Malefor never actually died, he was only sealed within the planet's core. After a very long time, could he have been freed once more, only to discover how to open interdimensional rifts, travelling to the Skylanders universe? Or possibly, could something from the Skylanders universe, such as a rogue portal master, have pulled him there?
I've said it before and I'll say it again: We need Dark Spyro in Spyro 4.
The question is, are they using Dark Spyro to make inter-continuity references, or are they trying to tie this all together into some crossover plotline? Perhaps he'll be the main villain in Spyro 4? Cynder having to deal with him would be interesting.
I want them to tie everything up, tie up the lose plot holes this series has so we won't be confused and it won't be a mess like Fnaf's lore.
Either they do it or I'll come along and do it, paid or not I'll do it for free or a penny.
@@kagemushashien8394 That all depends on what Spyro 4 is. Do you mean resolving the cliffhangers in Shadow Legacy [the DS game]?
@@maxkozak9702 That and the rest of the holes, like how there are different games with different Spyros with different stories.
@@kagemushashien8394 That's not a plot hole, they're separates continuities, unless you think the Spyro event in Crash On the run was implying otherwise.
Dude, you are reading my mind! I always saw this stuff as timeline order. In Skylanders Academy, we get Spyro and dark Spyro, which leads to crash on the run, as well as the main original Spyro series. In fact, when Spyro goes to a new realm to find his family, he is the only dragon not affected by Gnasty gnorc’s spell, because he’s not a dragon from the dragon Realm. Eventually, dark Spyro decides to take the name of Malfor, and becomes the villain of the legend of Spyro. then the next Spyro is born, becomes corrupted, and at the end of the game he and Cynder are transported to the realm of Skylanders, where thanks to eon, he learns to control the darkness. Also, dark Spyro returns once again as the undead Malfor in the Skylanders comic.
I love the history of Dark Spyro.
I really like Dark Spyro as a character and the lore surrounding him is very interesting. Great Video CGE
Can you do the history of the masks from crash banndicoot
Good idea! 😃
YES!
What I think about Dark Spyro is that Dark Spyro got split from regular Spyro and then the two Spyros battle each for the fate of the Dragon Realms. Spyro send Dark Spyro to a another realm. When Spyro came to Crash Bandicoot’s realm, Dark Spyro plans to take over all of the realm and all of the different universe. So Crash, Coco, and Spyro must team up to stop Dark Spyro from accomplishing Dark Spyro’s goals. By possible chance, I think that Dark Spyro should be the main villain in Spyro 4. It would explain much more about the events from previous games while introducing a new story for all of us. It would be cool to have Dark Spyro team up with all the villains from the originals all the way to the Skylander series. Great video CGE👍
CGE being a based AHT/Dark Gem appreciator again, you love to see it
I love that Dark Spyro is even getting love now.
I’m so used to SEGA just only doing things that relate to the classics and that be the most of it. That Spyro, granted isn’t owned by SEGA, even has anything that isn't the classics be acknowledged at this level. Even though many Spyro fans hates the Legends and Skylanders eras.
The same goes for Crash.
There are dark crystals in Skylanders Swap Force called petrified darkness. They’re used to turn good or neutral beings evil, and I think they also led to the dark versions of some skylanders besides Spyro.
In the Skylanders anniversary book, I’m pretty sure there’s a storyline where Spyro ends up getting evilized.
I still prefer the OG, his ability to attack at lightning speed and a combination of his normal attacks done when he is up in the air including flips with a violent smack at the end and his Dark Aether/Nether Fury are far more frightening while also able to turn big threats like Gaul to stone and slowly, the Fury also shatters Gaul to pieces.
Probably helps that he was introduced in the continuity based around combat more than anything else. I feel like he won't be very interesting to control unless it's in another beat em' up, or maybe a fighting game. Something that can let his more aggressive nature shine.
This went way deeper than I expected, but I always found the Dark Gems in A Hero's Tail interesting...
Makes me appreciate that game just a bit more as it really set stuff in motion.
I LOVE the Skylanders Academy Dark Spyro! Super Awesome! He later returns in essence as Cutter on Rescue Riders! lol
Thank you for a really well done video on Dark Spyro! Keep up the good work mate. 🙂
But My question is should dark Spyro have an ominous deeper voice or should it be voiced by Tom Kenny but more sinister ? Lol
Both would be great
just wanted to point out that Skylanders swap force also focuses a lot on the premis of crystals that corrupt beings, the "crystalized darkness" as it is refered as and it makes many inocent creatures evil.
Also found in the Skylanders Anniversary book, there’s this story where Spyro gets evilized.
It’s “Petrified Darkness”, not “Crystallised Darkness” (I used the UK spelling).
I hope the next Spyro game will be this cause it sounds like an awesome story to get into
Yay finally!! First Spyro video since May! 😃
This one was really interesting to me! I like the analysis and explanations and it got me thinking… Remember the rebirth theory? It seems like it ties in a lot with the stuff from this video. I wonder if we could find out a little bit of the plot to Spyro 4 by looking at elements in which all 3 reboots have in common.
Really, nice video! This one is one of my favorites that you have made! Keep up the good work! I hope to see more Spyro content from you soon! 😉
Honestly, nitpicking about some aspects of the story of Eternal Night and DotD is pretty much hating. No need to do that, honestly, I don't care for these plot things. It's like inspecting why Captain America's shield always bounces to him and defies physics. Nobody cares, honestly. Me neither.
Also, I'm writing this also because I like eternal night, but also because we all know you hate those games. No need to emphasize it every single time. We know.
Meadow here…
Did we ship the version of TLoS TEN where you can replay the whole game as Dark Spyro and all the dark elements or is that on a build on the cutting room floor, along with the several variations of the Gaul ending it took to get within ESRB.
…also thank-you for putting this video together. Very well researched and thorough. One gem I would like to share, you showed uncovered, connects the crystals together… you may have missed it while Dark Spyro certainly didn’t. Hope that’s cryptic enough but clear enough to help.
Oh wow, that would have been cool! Thanks for your incredible work on the LOS games btw
I never played Skylanders, but I saw the show on Netflix, and I liked it, too bad it ended after season 3.
Despite knowing about Dark Spyro from Legends/Skylanders Spyro and onwards, I never knew Dark Spyro's lore is deeper than it looks... until now
I remember hearing a theory a few years ago about how the 3 era (Classic, Legend, Skylanders) were in the same continuity but at different point in time. That theory goes to say that since Malefor was the first purple dragon and he wasn't mentioned in the classic games, Classic Spyro had to be Malefor's true identity. The theory was also backed up with Classic Spyro learning to control other elements in the gameboy advance games which I think were set after the events of the first trilogy.
I've only played the first 3 games on PS1 (and eventually the remake on PS4) so I don't know if this theory has any credibility to it. Still, I did loved the idea behind it as it was the first time I had heard of the different era possibly being linked together.
I wonder what they’re doing with Spyro 4. A lot of Gnasty Gnorc and Dark Spyro stuff lately. Well, more than Ripto and the Sorceress.
Personally i wouldnt read too deep into the lore between A Hero's Tail and the TLoS trilogy. The reason being: Those games are from very different teams and the games of TLoS use some very generic elements in their stories. While yes, they do make a callback to Spyro 2 in form of Hunter, that Hunter doesnt have anything to do with any other character than spyro and Cynder. That is really it. Dark crystals are more of a McGuffin to be like "Dark master uses darkness, darkness bad, dark crystals bad" and it has been done many times in games and storytelling before. Thats something anyone can think up when they need something people need to collect/destroy/fight something that belongs to the bad guy that uses dark powers.
The fandom has been deprived of anything new, that's probably why people are looking into things too deeply.
Un-ironically having crash music in the background of a Spyro game made me subscribe, and this is my first time watching anything on this channel, it appeared in my recommended from watching stuff about metal gear solid
Small note about the "crystal stasis"
In the Nintendo DS version of the game it is stated to be a "Time Fury" which causes it. So he basically traps them in a time bubble. And Spyro has been shown to have furies for all his other elements, so why would Time not have one? So we do technically get an explanations
The Time Crystal was the Time Fury. But like the Convexity Fury in A New Beginning, The Time Fury exhausts Spyro of his powers, so he loses Time as a consequence. Obviously, him being chained to Cynder in Dawn of the Dragon means that Time would be counterproductive as it would have no affect for Cynder, meaning that only Spyro could speed up in real time. Outside of lore, it's a gameplay balance concern.
@@X2011racer
I don't rememebr it ever stating that he LOSES Time control. I'd assume he stil has it. but we the player just can't use it because, well like you said, it'd make things awkward gameplaywise with controlling Cynder
@@0MidnighttheDragon0 He does, that is why it never came back but Aether stayed.
@@artistanthony1007
again, when/where was it stated that he loses it?
@@0MidnighttheDragon0When the Chronicler restored Spyro's powers and gave Cynder new powers, The Chronicler never mentioned Time at all. Plus, before they meet The Chronicler, Spyro and Cynder were unable to use their powers after Awakening in DOTD, meaning that they both lost their powers during the Time Skip.
In Spyro's case, his Time Fury exhausted him of all his powers, and in Cynder's case, her existing powers were lost after her defeat in ANB, hence why Cynder couldn't fight that well in the very few instances where she fights in TEN.
Great video! Love having an in-depth history of a kinda obscure character/lore for Spyro.
One thing you missed though: In the GBA version of The Legend of Spyro: The Eternal Night, Dark Spyro is depicted with black scales, silver horns/wings and red eyes, predating the Skylanders version of Dark Spyro. So technically the black scales/silver horns color scheme DID originate from the Legends series, just from one of the handheld versions of the second game. Similar to the console versions, you could unlock "dark mode" and play the whole game as Dark Spyro too.
This is really random, but I always wondered, if there was a Spyro game featuring an adult Spyro, if he would be bipedal like the other adult dragons 🤔
two spyros in the 'Spyro the Dragon' series??
This is an interesting direction for things to go because although I doubt the writers would think about it as much as I do, i'm just thinking about the implications of the fact previously Malefor and Spyro were two different characters but now Dark Spyro and Spyro are two versions of the same character.
I also thought about this in the show "Ultraman Ginga", where the hero was also split apart from this "excised" evil entity. what did it mean that Ginga once had Dark Lugiel as part of him? what does it mean that Spyro once had Dark Spyro as part of him?
are the games going to finally address the idea Spyro was originally presented as an antihero character who could only have a terrifying edgy girlfriend? is Dark Spyro an exaggerated reflection of who Spyro really is?
or alternatively, is Spyro going to realise he can only stop Dark Spyro because he intuitively knows the good aspects of Dark Spyro?
Great video
Spyro was one of the classic games I used to played a long time ago
At this point, who knows? So far Dark Spyro is now kinda important to Spyro himself. He'll show up now and then so I feel like it could be possibly hinting that he could make a major appearance one day?
I wish Spyro Academy got finished, sadly we wont see it finished because of many different reasons, it was starting to get good there at the end but we will never know the ending of that series.
loving the backing track xD 2 of my favourite games of all time, great video
i like old school spyro better than the new personality they have him, old slyro had some spice to him like ratchet did in his older series. i guess they dont want them sounding mean or something.
in the originals he's mean to innocent sheep. Makes me understand why Toasty started parading around.
6:04
In Eternal Night the Dragon Chronicler he learned the Spyro how to slow down the time, in the crystal part Spyro probably just use it as a way to protect them from mountain collapse
Did you know that there's a theory that says that Malfor from the Legends of Spyro is the original Spyro ?
Loved everything of this video and from someone that is not so deep in spyro lore this was amazing, thank you for the great gathering of info in dark spyro! 💜 🖤
Great vid once again CGE!
The origins of Dark Spyro is A Heroes Tail, interesting, also it is cool how it began to take shape in the Legend of Spyro, and then only gain importance in Skylanders, finally appearing in CTR Nitro Fueled and then Crash on the Run! Interesting how after he “dies” in Academy he isn’t truly dead, as he returns later on for CTR Nitro Fueled and Crash on the Run.
Honestly a title where you play AS dark spyro would get me back in the franchise. I WANNA PLAY A SPYRO VILLAIN GAD DARN IT
12:33 actually if you look at TLoS TEN on the DS there is actually the FIRST instance of the silver and black Dark Spyro, thats where they got the idea from, the DS game version of The Eternal Night was the actual first instance of black, red and silver Dark Spyro
If they’re gonna bring back Dark Spyro and Dark Gems then they have to bring back Ember and Flame, we some sort of multiplayer option for classic spyro and the whole gang, Spyro, Cynder, Ember, Flame. The fans would go nuts
I love the fact that this is a spyro video but the background music is crash bandicoot warped
I love The legend...
I still have the og skylanders dark spyro
This hits a specific part of my heart
8:48 when has happened?
I want a reboot of the Legend series sooooo flipping bad!!
This was a great video! One thing possibly worth mentioning is that dark spyros character bio from the crash OTR twitter says he is from the legend of spyro series, with his quote being from DotD.
The reason OTR has 2 spyros could be one of them is from the legend universe, having been corrupted again sometime after DotD. I know his design is different but that could be chalked up to artistic differences / reusing assets.
But if true, this would be the first crossover between classic and legend spyro, and would confirm my headcanon that all three spyros are their own dimensions in the Crash multiverse
Also, if spyro and cynder got sent to another dimension at the end of dotd, that would explain why the chronicler couldn't find them in his magic books anymore
so basically they confirmed that the legend timeline ends with spyro succumbing to the darkness and spreading said darkness to other universes
@@toastwings9358 i'm, ah, sure he gets better
Carter here
Sorry I miss the stream yesterday
I was busy
Cool video
Imo dark Spyro is skylanders looked better then regular spyro cuz they gave regular Spyro this ugly dark glossy purple and bronze. As someone who owns almost every skylander, I won’t shill a bad design.
I'd love to see a similar video about the history of Fake Crash.
Any one else want a legend of Spyro trilogy remake or is it just me? Those where the Spyro games I gravitated to most as a kid.
I do.
Definitely.
And a really interesting thing to think about is that the dark crystals kind of made their way into skylanders as petrified darkness.
Such a Great Vid! Thanks Canadian Guy Eh!
You forgot about the game called Spyro shadow legacy . It's for the Nintendo ds . It has Spyro go through both the dragon realm and the dark realm throughout the game to save everyone .
i like to imagine being in Skylands and showing off the Spyro, Dark Spyro, and Legendary Spyro figurines, saying to the Skylanders that the Legendary one is what happens when Spyro and Dark Spyro combine their two Aether energies.
There already is a story for the Legendary Skylanders
@@alexslusher16 since when?!
@@RainbowYoshi37 Legendary variants are statues that get summoned by portal masters to defend skylands when skylands is attacked by evil forces.
spyro is like the avatar in sense of mastering the elements plus having more abilities others wouldn't have
I want more spyro games... watching this made me want more spyro
I will say, there was a version of skylanders: spyro's adventure that featured dark spyro and normal spyro as 2 different dragons, with similar but different movesets as well (kinda like an echo fighter from smash)! That would be the 3DS version! So technically, Spyro and Dark spyro have been 2 separate people long before skylanders academy (and why academy can be consider non-canon, but 2 diff spyros is still canon)
Fun Facts about Dark Spyro:
1. In Crash on the Run, Dark Spyro's name in Spanish is "Spyro Siniestro", which literally translates to "Sinister Spyro", rather than something like "Spyro Sombrío". Perhaps this is due to the fact that bosses in that game have recolors, and Dark Spyro is no exception, boasting 4 different color schemes, but only 2 colors, Nitro (Default color) and Oxide (purple and green) got used.
2. In Skylanders Academy, Dark Spyro is never referred to as Dark Spyro at any point in the show, only referred as Spyro. However, some rare Promotional material seems to name Dark Spyro as "Evil Spyro", which is interesting as none of the episode synopses do this, nor do the Season 3 credits, which credit Jason Ritter as "Spyro", and leave out Justin Long outright, despite Long actually voicing the Heroic version of Spyro for the last 3 episodes and Ritter voicing the Evil version for the Season 2 finale (uncredited) and the entirety of Season 3.
3. In Skylanders: Ring of Heroes, Dark Spyro was renamed Shadow Spyro, alongside other Dark variants of certain Skylanders. I guess it was a consequence of localization decisions from Korean to English, as Com2Us is a Korean developer and English isn't their native language.
Another fact: You can unlock a permanent dark spyro transformation in eternal night by doing a cheat code. It is overpowered as hell and makes the play through extremely easy lol.
I'm a spyro casual I guess because I had no idea the lore went that deep. What is it about taking the main character and then making them black with red eyes that is so appealing?
Is this all in one game if not can you tell me the titles of the other ones? I love skylanders by the way
So possibly
Dark Spyro might be in a new SPYRO 4 ?
I wish Skylanders Academy had one last season. Spyro finds his family and uncorrupts them, meanwhile the Skylanders find Dark Spyro and try to train him to become a Skylander.
Dark Spyro was turning good up until Strykor tightened his grip, he started out bad but the team grew on him as his own person, so maybe they’d use that to make him good.
We know Spyro survived the blast and there’s no way Dark Spyro wouldn’t have survived either, not to mention he was actually winning against Spyro but “power of friendship” had Spyro + Dark use their most powerful attacks and boom.
Dark Spyro was the least injured of the pair, so if Spyro, who was actively wincing in pain, can survive a huge blast like that, so can Dark.
Dark Spyro is also in the Skylanders game btw. It's where he originally appeared in that series.
I really like Dark spyro I was hope bring Dark spyro aka Evil Spyro or Nega Spyro for Spyro 4
My biggest gripe with Skylanders, and all toys to life games by extent, is the need to constantly buy more of the figures. If it were rebooted in a way that you'd unlock characters over time while playing, I'd have gotten all of em, same with the other TTL games.
Edit: Spelling
You do not need to buy the figures you can just use the starter pack ones.
@@Theagentofchaos-r5q If you don't get more toys, you can't access a huge portion of the game, because you get three elements and one movement ability in the starter pack.
@@avon_the_trash_king6966 fair but they are not mandatory
@@Theagentofchaos-r5q It was if you wanted to explore the map past the base story path
@@avon_the_trash_king6966 I do get your gripe I call you they replace this in superchargers with vehicle sections but if you do ignore all that all the Skylander games are great
Did you know that Skylanders Swap Force had petrified darkness crystals, which were basically the same as dark gems from the Spyro games?
01:34 The chests are trolling me since my first time this like, partially absolutly doesn't matter how I'm with my skills and in this game. ^^
Intro is a little bit to loud btw.
I legit don't care about anything after the OT (/Reignited). None of this coherently pertains to that.
Here is me holing for a Spyro 4 that takes the best ideas from Dragonfly and Hero's tail and brings them together into something that actually feels like a spyro 4.
For crash 5, i want the elemental masks and crunch back after 4 teased both
Very cool, keep it up CGE.
Also I think it would be cool to have a game that solely focused on the Spyro villians. I mean wouldn't it be cool to play as Dark Spyro, Malfor, or maybe even the original trilogy enemies/bosses?
This is why I'm a legends fan, I grew up with it and i don't think it deserves the hate that it has. I personally think it has the best lore and gameplay. The game is still about a purple dragon but this time, one that can slow time ( Dragon time in The Eternal Night) and breathe multiple elements such as lightning, fire, ice, earth and even darkness at times. Plus, Cynder has an AMAZING BACKSTORY! The dark element logo is also pretty cool. Not so sure about the skylanders series though. I have a lot of mixed feelings about that
6:00 at that point he wasn’t Joe Dirt The Fly, but, Fry The Fly lol.
Mirror counterparts at each other just like the yin and yang symbol that's exactly the same but totally opposite. Did you say that hero's greatest enemy is usually themselves
Spyro was my first Video Game that I ever played and It got me into Gaming. Plus back then My Memory Cards didn’t work properly so I had to replay all of them from start to finish every time I wanted to play, it definitely helped me develop my Memory Skills though. Spyro is to this day still my Favorite Game Series, and I miss A Heroes Tail, and The Legend Series. When the Reignited Trilogy came out I Bought it Instantly. However I’ve never been a fan of the Skylanders Version, I just can’t 🤣. Still though I would love it if we got a Remake of the Legend Series.
black spyro design loois pretty nice, and i love purple spyro also.
I hope legend of spyro gets a remake. I would love to play it on modern day consoles.
I guess that may be true. Dark Spyro never showed up in the original trilogy. But Spyro 2 had cheat codes where if you put in certian buttons you can change Spyro's color. Black was one of those options.
You want to see Dark Spyro again? Perhaps if it makes it easier for him to lose his cool and have less care about bystanders (basically corrupt emotion), but I'm more interested in Cynder and how she ties into all this.
Cynder was basically corrupted since birth and has been forced to do the bidding of an evil master with no will of her own. This forced her to unwillingly assist in wiping her own species to near extinction (pretty dark stuff), and you would not want to have a history in that. It's honestly why I feel more concerned about her. at first she wanted to get away from all this and not get involved, finding her own destiny (being her own master) and redeems herself by fighting the one responsible when she's effectively forced to by the chain (gotta give her credit for not being a burden). Her experience in warfare has shown since she recommended flooding the canyon to halt the destroyers advance. I can't blame for wanting no part in such an endeavor, but she pulled through with it until the end. And after all Spyro has done to grant Cynder her continued freedom (such as rushing to her rescue despite the chronicler telling him not to), I can see why she fell for him.
But about her black scales. It's evident she was naturally born a wind dragon, but she had black scales and silver horns (much like Dark Spyro) which does not match the colors shown for the wind elements symbol. Yet she manages to keep herself under control as she's free. A change in art direction aside, she still has her dark powers from her dark past but uses them for good redeeming herself. And Dark Aether doesn't seem to corrupt her unless someone else infuses their own magic into her. It hurt all that much harder when Skull put his spell on her in Skylanders Academy. Hasn't she been through enough. Not to mention Eon left her for dead in the entire third season and only deployed a rescue squad because they needed her powers rather than show some actual concern for her. I'm not even convinced Malefor is related to her (since he has lied and said sketchy things before).
Conclusion, Dark Aether twists the will of individuals to do terrible deeds.
And honestly, I wish they hadn't forced the TLoS trilogy to have such limited time and resource to be made. It could have been more fleshed out, perhaps in a remake, or an animated adaptation. Either way, I'd love to see an angry Dark Spyro blast away at Malefors army after Ignitus's death. My huge softspot for that trilogy is the potential. And say what you will about Dawn of the Dragons gameplay being different. But the button mapping opens up a whole new world of possibilities for dragon capabilities. I'd like one of his earth abilities to be a giant pair of floating rock fists. Imagine grabbing and punching with those. One such ability could be a ROCK-et punch (I regret nothing).
It depends on your perspective but there was a cheat code that turned him black, so its a yes but no in the original spyro that he appeared in it, but even in the original the lore stated the dragons was the embodiment of magic itself, so one could say they are the avatars of the natural force of magic, another good way of explaining is if you are familiar with discworlds colour of magic and the light fantastic, the purple/magenta is the final colour, so spyro being what he is is the most sensitive to all forms of magic, in its own way you could say he is a royal dragon as the purple and gold colours signify royalty, which would check out with malefors "corrupt king"
Nice Video!
I honestly think the LoS version of Dark Spyro looks better than the Skylanders version, even though it's more prominent and fleshed out. I think the smokey black skin with gold accents looks so much better than basically a grayscale copy of the standard Spyro.
I remember playing the original Spyro trilogy back on the PlayStation so many years ago now at this point ha and I can’t remember which game but I swear one of the crystal dragon statues in that game was unobtainable because you could hear the ringing the crystal statue made but it was behind a wall and thus bugged.
Did anyone else experience this or was it just my copy that was bugged somehow ? 🤔
I wanna see a bulletin board of this complete with red string
I guess back in Spyro a heros tail, Spyro destroys all the dark gems however it dose come at a price.
The dark energy starts to absorb into Spyro but Spyro dose not notice it because his preoccupied on stopping red.
Red was working for a darker dragon that had dark ather, but Red focused on the dark ather from the dark Crystal's.
It was one way to try and get wold domination done.
I Just hope in Spyro 4 that we get not only a new or classic bad guy but also Dark Spyro helping them.
Imagin, it could be a shadow the hedgehog kind of deal in Sonic Adveture 2/Sonic Battle 2.
Where the creatures think Spyro did all these things and try to stop him.
(Apart from Hunter and Bianca of course)
The second hub world every creature reasises, in some way that it is not Spyro doing this but a darker version of him.
When I got Skylanders for the Nintendo 3DS I gotten at one of the figures was dark Spyro
Is there any plans to remake a hero’s tail?
Maybe that's what actually happened to Deathwing instead of actually dying he was cast out of the world of Azeroth into the Skylands and had a dragonet (Cynder) With a lady dragon we will never meet but in reality the fall took away both his memory and removed a few brain cells. Is that a good theory?