The TEN most OVERRATED ALBUMS in the history of mankind | RANKED (sort of)
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KISS is more Spinal Tap than Spinal Tap themselves.
I think Spinal Tap writes better songs. Just remember "Lick my love pump" in D Minor 🙂
They never opened for a puppet show.
"These amps go to e-levin..!"
interesting...
Kiss is to rock music what the Happy Meal is to the culinary arts. Marketing gimmick with little value.
Can't you make that watermark a bit smaller, Andrew?
plus, he has gone completely greyscale.
I want it larger. And throbbing.
Or, at the very least, move it or himself so it isn't covering up almost 1/2 his torso! lol
@@seancassidy674 not enough fresh liver
Exactly what I was gonna post. Make it smaller or just fade it out after a minute or so.
Hey, Andy, consider adding these disclaimers: No animals were harmed in the making of this video, I do all my stunts, All the models are over 18, No alcohol or smoking or nudity here, Offensive language only when necessary and for entertainment purposes only, Philosophical meandering warning
And: The clothes I am wearing are my own not the studio's.
@@zootallures6470and it’s not dandruff it’s sparkles ✨
And I'm not sponsored by anybody at all...hint hint.
Some assembly required, batteries not included.
Stop apologizing for having an opinion, just tell us what you think. People will either agree with you or they won't. Either way i clicked on your video to hear your opinion and it took 5 minutes of listening to you apologize before getting started. Give your opinions and own them 👍
Exactly. I love these videos, and love even more reading all the butt hurt people in the comments.
Kiss was a cheap pop band at best. Mediocre to terrible songs that could have only existed in an era of over indulgence of alcohol and drugs.
@@robertfiorellino6070 which is ironic as fuck as kiss are notorious for NOT taking drugs in an era that's known ostensibly for being the era of excess,did do quite a bit of shagging though especially Simmons....
For certain. I agreed with some of them and disagreed with others.
Spot on about the Beach Boys. I have NEVER understood the adulation of Pet Sounds, outside the hits it bores me to death.
Try sitting for four hours on a bus whose driver loved the album... Aaaaarrrggghhh
@@richardhoward7503 Torture!!! You poor man.
Spot off about the Beach Boys. I fully understand the adulation - but then I am an audiophile, musician, and composer. I call it the Haydn Effect: Haydn invented the Symphony, but ignorant people think his symphonies are tame - boring - compared to later ones by Mozart or Beethoven. There would be no symphonies by others without Haydn. Pet Sounds changed the way albums were composed, arranged, and produced: Everything changed. As for the Wrecking Crew, they contributed zero vocals. If you think vocal mastery, in both lead and background, is nothing, then dismiss every lead singer who does not play an instrument. Actually, some of the other members, especially lead guitarist Carl Wilson, contributed instrumental additions when they returned from the vital touring that enabled Brian Wilson the money to produce the album. Paul McCartney, John Lennon, George Martin, Keith Moon, David Crosby, Graham Nash, Elton John, Ann Wilson, Tom Petty, and many, many other music artists also fully understood - and understand still - the adulation.
@@DanielByers-qf9qi I'm not saying Brian Wilson isn't a great composer, or that there isn't any merit to the music, I'm saying it bores me. They were a great little band with some excellent singles, but I'm sorry, I just don't GET this LP. That's all. My loss.
Pet Sounds, booooring. Absolutely 💩.
“Nobody says, ‘I’m going to put on the middle of 2112…nobody”
Loved that.
I do!
@@stevecaldwell8558 So do I
there should be a 'concept mode' button/switch built into record players..forcing one to play the whole of side 1 then the whole of side 2 in order.
Let's be honest, they skipped the dull bit on the "2112" tour 😂
Rush trimmed down 2112 in their live set. Check out the version on All The World's a Stage. Saw them 4 times 19977-1978.
BOC had a pretty big profile in the USA throughout the 70's and 80's and still maintain a loyal fan base. There are a lot of great albums in their discography you should explore.
@@nazaholicable Right on! :)
I would suggest these albums as a great way to explore Blue Oyster Cult:
1. Fire of Unknown Origin
2. Blue Oyster Cult
3. Tyranny and Mutation
4. Some Enchanted Evening Live
All incredible. I think you will appreciate them too. I was in high school and could hardly listen to anything else during my sophomore year. I still enjoy listening. Very eclectic. They influenced heavy metal, but they were something else. Unique.
Thank you for the entertaining list and the music history in all of your videos!
I'm a big fan of Spectres as well
@@nazaholicableIt is not the one we were waiting for.
I think they're okay but... I think they'd be even better if they just had a bit more cowbell.
Listening to your reflections about Secret Treaties I believe you've tapped into a very interesting insight, worth investigating deeper. Speaking from my own experience, as I watch your videos my knowledge increases and my perspective changes, so that I can appreciate music I once disliked. Sometimes our perspective changes over years but sometimes it only takes the right educator or the right peer to flip tne switch. The significance of the change is not just that we now like a thing that we once didn't; something else else necessarily shifts inside and we are nourished and elevated by the appreciation of art. You have touched on this before but I would be interested to view an episode dedicated to this topic.
Agree I’ve encountered this many times. When I was young I write off many music styles and artists only to come back years later and love them and vice versa--what was I thinking.
Blue oyster Cult are underrated. They are a NYC band that was influential on the CBGBs bands. Great live, Patti smith wrote some lyrics (career of evil)
Patti Smith is an abysmal talent void. And an actual racist, not uncommon amongst smug bourgeois twats of her stripe
Definitely underrated. Not sure why, but until a couple of years ago, I always assumed they were Canadian.
Still remember their amazing laser shows from pre health-and-safety days!
@@wm-nu1yf Well they didn’t have a hit until late seventies and it was a slow climber but really I don’t know. They were hard to market I guess. After Reaper blew up they would still play in the smaller bars and clubs under the name Soft Yellow Underbelly. Much loved in the northeast US rock circuit.
@@Hartlor_Tayley I wasn't sure why I thought they were Canadian. I completely understand why they are underrated.
Your review of "Destroyer"--with your English accent driving the review to great heights ("truly awwwful") had me almost falling out of my chair, laughing. Keep up the great work. I think even the wounded here would concede that you have an abiding love of music in many forms--a completely open mind, without prejudice. I suppose I am too much of an old f to be able to do that (I'll never really get rap/hip-hop, I think). Well done, again.
keep pressing that button Andy
"Pet Sounds" Eh ?
It's Brian Wilson's solo project, which basically has nothing to do with the band called the Beach Boys.
"Pet Sounds" is Brian Wilson & The Wrecking Crew.
It has, except for "Caroline, No", and, perhaps the two instrumental songs, everything to do with the Beach Boys. The Wrecking Crew did zero vocals. Do you imagine that vocalists like Pat Benatar contribute nothing to their bands? Do you imagine that singing complex harmonies, live and without any modern electronic manipulation, is easily done by just anyone? Touring back then was almost the only way to promote sales. The rest of the band was on tour, keeping Capitol Records satisfied, and providing Brian Wilson with the opportunity to create in the studio. When they returned, they contributed some lead and most background vocals, as well as some additional instrumentals. Carl Wilson was a de facto member of the Crew when not on tour, and, for instance, played one of the most famous guitar intros ever in a pre-Pet Sounds Wrecking Crew session: "California Girls". Some of the Wrecking Crew were astounded by the vocal expertise of the young men in the band, who could walk up to the mikes and nail it in one take.
There is an analogy between The Wall and The Lamb. Two lead singers wanting to tell their story over the other members. Difference being that the other members of Genesis are probably a bit more headstrong than the other members of Pink Floyd to counterweight their singers. The Lamb is still one of my favorites
I know a good lawyer if the Steely Dan police nicked you, Andy...
☝️😎
We wouldn't report him. He'd just get off on an insanity plea. ;)
@@krakennutspod4521
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I actually think Andy has a point with the Dan; that Jazz and "anal retentive" do not, normally, make good bedfellows. I still don't care! I ❤ Aja and the Dan.
@@Jesse615 Aja is an exception to the "anal retentive jazz" rule. Hell, it might be an underrated album for that reason.
@@krakennutspod4521 AJA is UNDERRATED .
I just realized why I don’t mind Andy tearing apart an album (or four) I love…It’s cuz I can tell he’s a good dude..
it toughens people up for disagreements on substantiative issues if nothing else.
I smell part two coming up!!!
Could be a series!
Cheers Andy! Whilst not always agreeing with you, I very much enjoy your rational and would have a hard time disputing it. I do agree 100% about the Beach Boys, their sound is tired and doesn't hold up like a Revolver or Sgt Pepper. You should definitely explore more of the Blue Oyster Cult catalog; all the albums up to (but not including) Club Ninja are very strong.
Andy,what your views on Forever Changes by Love?
I don’t know what Andy’s are but it’s fuckin brilliant,( saw them live… it was actually just Arthur Lee and a guest ‘few track’ appearance from the guitar player …. Just before Arthur passed away).
I’m sure Andy has recognised and rated this album before from memory.
I love that album.
Lives up to its hype.
The best part is when you recall buying a new album while you're out with your mother and hoping it's not crap. I totally can relate to that ❤! I grew up in a small village, and the one (there was only one) record shop around was in the next city - which you only reached when you're parents took you, because there was no bus ... and you were always in a hurry, since mom didn't understand why she had to stop at this shop anyway ... I don't know what would have become of me without tape trading!
Oh, by the way, did you ever consider doing a video on the role of tape for the perception of the album as a coherent piece of art? (the medium basically forced you to ingest albums in their entirety, as there was simply no practical way to skip tracks ;-)
That feeling after 4 listens when I realised that Lets Dance was shite and bowie was thereafter lost to me for nearly 3 decades
A few years ago ago I picked up one of those 5 albums in a box by Blue Oyster Cult. Like everyone, I had Agents of Fortune but was shocked at how varied their catalogue was. Patti Smith was involved in Secret Treaties pre her imperial punk phase.
Imaginos by Blue Oyster Cult is a great album. Their 1980s masterpiece. Definitely check that one out!
The first album, "Tyranny and Mutation", "Secret Treaties", "Agents of Fortune", "Spectres", "Cultosaurus Erectus" and "Fire of Unknown Origin" are all masterpieces! B.Ö.C., probably the most underrated band in the history of r'n'r!
More cowbell!
@@WillieEWoof The last two are their '80s twin peaks, true "group efforts with Martin Birch production, no less.
Imaginos is also known for the track "The Siege and Investiture of the Castle of Baron Von Frankenstein at Weisseria" which is a mouthful.
@@aliensporebomb That is actually a great song and, to me, definitely the high point of the album. Generally, I think the album suffers from bad 80s production and too much synth. Also, the version of Astronomy is very bad compared to the original version.
I’m eager to listen to “Secret Treatises” as I love BOC’s hits and Buck Dharma’s guitar playing but I haven’t heard a lot of it.
Kiss - do they record the music in the costumes. Now this would be a spectacle.
Yes, they "record" their albums in full regalia as well with pre Backing Tracks and pre-recorded vocals.
Even their original material is lip-synched.
You mentioned hearing a great song on the radio and buying the album only to be disappointed. I remember buying albums for the same reason (like Rush Moving Pictures and Men at Work Business as Usual) where I end up liking all the OTHER tracks even more. To the point where I would skip over the popular radio track(s). Did this ever happen to you (I'm sure it had to), and can you compile a list?
LOVE Business as Usual. Easily my favorite "pop/top 40s" album from the 80s.
Jimmy $aville vibes from the Kiss lyrics , vile stuff.
"God only knows who I'd f%ck without you"
You make an interesting point about the Beach Boys being backward-looking whilst the Beatles were forward-looking. I think the historical context is key: young US people were being drafted to fight in Vietnam whilst here in England we did not suffer that. I think it might have contributed to a more nostalgic outlook among US youth as they longed for more innocent times before the US dream they believed turned out to be rotten. There's a strand of that sort of outlook in a lot of US music from the 60s onwards (Chicago's Harry Truman, Don Henley's The End Of Innocence). Here British cynicism meant we had no dreams to be shattered but things were so dull we could look to investing a better future!
I've always felt the Beatles' brilliance is that unlike almost any other band at the time they looked both forward and backward. Penny Lane is undeniably nostalgic, and there are music hall and brass band influences in several of their songs. But I do think the Beach Boys were about looking back. Brian Wilson really wasn't interested in all the new revolutionary things going on around him. His tastes were traditional, conservative and suburban, and I'm sure he'd have been much more comfortable had he been born a decade earlier.
@@patpatisserie4245 Agreed. Songs like When I'm Sixty-Four have that old-fashioned sing-along quality and the bus in the Magical Mystery Tour film has some ordinary elderly people alongside the hip Beatles. I like the fact that Revolver has room for both Tomorrow Never Knows and Yellow Submarine!
@@DarkSideOfTheMoule Agreed. All the Beatles had older parents, too.
They also had a mega- backstage parent who berated them constantly!
Pet Sounds may be decent, but it’s not even in my top 200…
You had me worried for awhile there Andrew when you began talking negatively about Blue Oyster Cult. However you redeemed yourself. Carry on.
Most people who watch these shows want to see their opinion coming out of someone elses mouth so as to have their wisdom confirmed,and if you deny them this they lose their shit.
How dare you? Who do you think you are? When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you😁!
@@treff9226 🤣
Wrong: Persons like myself do not object to subjective opinions; we object to arrogantly categorical pronouncements like "The TEN most OVERRATED ALBUMS in the history of mankind" coming out of someone's mouth. To call such hyperbolic absolutism merely personal opinion is beyond disingenuous. I for one will continue to regard Pet Sounds as the most ground-breaking and influential rock album ever.
@@DanielByers-qf9qi And thats fine,your taste is valid to you,but others disagree and their opinion is just as valid,The point is not to get hung up on things where there is no right or wrong answer.Opinions are like arseholes,everyones got one.
@DanielByers-qf9qJeez.....Daniel, it's all in good fun, Andy's very self deprecating and he continually states that these lists are simply HIS opinion. These type of lists create a ton of debate and really get peeps feathers up! Myself, for instance, feel the need to explain why some of these artists are simply NOT overrated, putting on my lawyer suit.....why do I do this? Passion, music is very close and personal to us, Springsteen, Bono, Steely Dan - they have been a large part of my social life and are like friends to me! What gets me is when folks make ludicrous statements like: Springsteen has zero talent, he is a media product, sold to us and you fools fall for it!" Or, how about this one: "Neil Young can't sing, can't play guitar, I can't fathom how anyone could like even one song from this talentless hack!" It's fine to dislike whatever you want, but to then completely dismiss legends of the music industry as worthless and mediocre, due to ones own hatred of them.......can't have it! Peace! Oh, and Pet Sounds is a remarkable piece of music, from top to bottom!🎯💯👍
I finally agree with you on something- always thought Pet Sounds was overrated as were The Beach Boys themselves
And you were wrong. The only American band that could cause the might Beatles sleepy nights. Listen to their first album from 3 years before. It's like Neanderthals suddenly sending rockets to the moon.
I get sort of an Exotica feel from Pet Sounds. Kind of like the music of Martin Denny or Les Baxter.
Hi Andy - great video again!!! Classic commentary on watching films before video tape - I remember taping The Rutles film on to AUDIO tape - I know the film word for word 🤣🤣 cheers mate this is gold, Matt
The only album I ever took back and exchanged for another was Sandinista for Rumors. A very good swap. I would never have swapped London Calling for anything. I can see where you're coming from with that though, the very powerful songs standing out and the rest maybe sounding a bit limp, but as an 'invested' Clash fan, I was hugely impressed by their virtuosity and their branching out into different styles in a very creative way that, for the most part, sounded great. Sandinista, though, was a self-indulgent dithering step too far that I fortunately exchanged for red-hot intensity.
If Sandinista had been a double album (weeding out the weak tracks), it would have been up there with London Calling.
What are the outstanding tracks on London Calling?
1) Kiss Alive II was, indeed, my favorite album in the world. But I was 5 or 6 at the time. I’m sure I listened to Destroyer, Rock And Roll Over and Love Gun back then. I haven’t listened to any of those 3 in 45+ years. I’m sure you’re right about “Destroyer.”
2) I have never understood the draw to “Trout Mask Replica” and that’s OK. I’m fine.
3) I liked your explanation regarding “Aja.” I don’t agree, but I’m not going to die on that hill. I’ll have to hear these other Steve Gadd albums.
4) Every Rush fan likes different albums in different orders. I think you’re right about 2112. It’s my 12th or 13th favorite Rush album.
2112 isn’t in my top ten Rush either. Prefer Hemispheres and Farewell TKs from their 70s albums. Plus it’s way behind Moving Pictures, Permanent Ws and Signals. Power Windows is much better as well.
Andy rants are always welcome!👍
Going off topic, but I was looking at your holding slide and the montage of album covers and there are some wonderful bits of art and design amongst them. So, how about a video on your favourite top 20 album art? As a practicing graphic designer and art director, I’d love that.
I have done quite a few awful album covers videos
@@AndyEdwardsDrummerhow about a video or 2 of your favorites?
Are those white specks on your tee-shirt paint speckles from just painting that back wall white? Or just bits?
The background to The Wall is a bit different to how you have presented it: no-one else in the band had come up with any material but Roger Waters had written and recorded demos of 2 sets of material in his 4 track home studio (what would become The Wall and Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking respectively). When he brought them to the band they rejected the Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking songs as 'too personal' (irony of ironies, given the subject-matter of The Wall). The band were under pressure to come up with product because they had a massive tax bill to pay. So it wasn't really a case of Roger Waters pestering them to let him do his concept album.
Exactly. People should know what they are talking about before making such wide of the mark claims. Nick mason is not a song writer. Richard Wright had hardly brought anything song wise to the table since Wish You Were Here, leading Waters to effectively expel him as a member of Pink Floyd and pay him as a session musician for Animals, of which almost all the songs had been written and toured before WYWH. Any songs he had come up with were destined for his solo Album Wet Dream. David Gilmour was also writing songs for his self titled solo album. So all three were working on solo projects, it's just that Roger was writing so much more material than they were, and not only that it was better than what they were writing, and they knew it. They are not stupid. Pink Floyd is, and always was their cash cow.(RIP Richard) Which is why Gilmour submitted some music he had written for his solo album, that Roger wrote alternative words for, and turned it into the masterpiece which is Comfortably Numb. Yes, due to Rogers prolific writing (The Final Cut is almost all left overs from The Wall) he assumed control, much to everyone else's annoyance, but it's hardly his fault if they are bringing nothing to the table. And oh, The Wall is a Masterpiece.
@@MrJambug Your post is not correct. Rick was not expelled and paid as a session musician for Animals. That was the Wall. After Dark Side, Roger took it upon himself to decide what the next album was going to be about and to write the whole thing. Previously, the various members came up with ideas and worked on them together - including Nick. Roger became the lyricist because nobody else was interested in writing lyrics. This gave Roger the power to decide what the next album would be about. After the release of Dark Side, the 74 tour set list was Dark Side plus Shine On (Waters/Gilmour/Wright), Gotta Be Crazy-Dogs (Waters/Gilmour), Raving And Drooling-Sheep(Waters),(plus Echoes written by all four, as an encore). Sheep's intro and outro were written by Rick and David respectively, but they were not credited for them. Two songs out of five is not almost all. Roger decided, against David's choice, to leave those two songs aside and make WYWH about 'abscence', writing two new songs himself, and one with Gilmour. Again, for the next album, Roger decided it would be an animal farm themed affair and filled in the gap with the three Pig songs. This would make it harder for anybody to present any material, because Roger had already said what it would be. In financial terms, Rick and David were not going to see any song writing royalties, and as the original poster pointed out, there was a further monetary pressure, caused, not directly by a tax bill, but because they were robbed by a financial investor. The tax bill was a complication of that, so they both made solo albums abroad to try and salvage their bank accounts. This used up material that they were unable to present to the band because Roger was now deciding everything. Again, as the OP mentioned, Roger brought TWO things to the band and told them to choose one. Damn right it was annoying that he had assumed control. Judging by the results, The Wall was the better choice of the two, but it took a lot of work by Bob Ezrin to make that a workable prospect, and as mentioned, a lot of that material was rejected. It WAS in fact, Roger pestering them to do his concept album, he threatened to bin it if Rick was not fired. I must also point out Mr Jambug, that you have no idea that the other members thought that Roger was writing better material than they came up with, in fact, they have gone on record as saying they thought it was garbage, and David was annoyed that he brought the rejected stuff back for The Final Cut. Pink Floyd is their cash cow ? Rog did his thing for free did he ? Roger didn't write alternative words for Comfortably Numb, there were none. It is David's solo and music that makes it a masterpiece, and yes, it really was Roger's fault that they brought nothing to the table. You should know what you are talking about before making such wide of the mark claims.
@@glerp10000000000 Fair enough you obviously have a deep knowledge on the subject. But I still don't believe you are entirely correct and you seem very defensive of Wright, maybe because of what you may see as me being disingenuous towards him, but I am not. This is what Wright himself said on the matter in 1994: "I didn't really like a lot of the music on the album, I didn't fight hard to put my stuff on the album and I didn't have anything to put on. I played well but did not contribute to the writing and also Roger was not letting me write. This was the whole start of the whole ego thing in the band." So he's a little self contradictory. "I didn't have anything to put on" and "Roger was not letting me write". Roger cant stop him writing. If he writes a song he writes a song. Or at least a chord progression, which was his particular skill. And he (Roger) cant put anything on if he had "nothing to offer". Richard is also on record as saying: "Both myself and Dave had little to offer, through laziness or whatever. Looking back, although I didn't realise it, I was depressed." Which I understand was due to marital problems.
So, as much as what you say is correct, your overall take on the strained relationships between Roger, Dave and in particular Richard, is just your subjective 'take' on it, which is obviously very defensive of Wright. Which is fine, that is how you see it. I see it slightly different.
Comfortably Numb melody was all David Gilmour.
@@glerp10000000000 David: I’m certainly guilty at times of being lazy... Roger might say, “Well, what have you got?” And I’d be like, ‘Well, I haven’t got anything right now... There are elements of all this stuff that, years later, you can look back on and say, “Well, he had a point there.”
Roger: By and large, "The Wall" was my record - though I don't want to belittle Dave's considerable contributions ... The reason "The Wall" is a good record is because it's an honest autobiographical piece of writing of mine. And the machinery in place that enabled me to make that record was good. But it was only machinery by then; There was no question of there being a "group" anywhere ... And certainly Ezrin's contribution to "The Wall" was far greater than anybody in the band. He and I made the record together. And he was a great help. You know, Rick had drifted out of range by that point ... And it wasn't the unilateral and heinous, wicked thing that gets described in the "unofficial" histories.
Andy! You're crazy as hell but I just can't look away!!
what do you think of Since I Left You by The Avalanches? also a completely sampled album
I haven’t listened to the album but the single and the video to accompany it were absolute gold 👍🏻
Great comments and analysis of some "sacred cows." I can't remember the last time I heard Devil Woman. I have always appreciated Captain Beefheart's gruffness more mixed with some "yin" as you put it. Exile benefits from the original noisy, dirty sound on the American pressing of the lp. I Just Want to See His Face has worthwhile covers from The Blind Boys of Alabama and Phish.
I have to agree about Aja. It's hard for me to ignore that Walter Becker literally *looks the part* of the anal retentive creator, perhaps more so than Fripp (!). Becker physically resembles a math professor I had, bless his soul, whose lectures were anal retentively oriented towards proofs and rigor. His feedback on our work would always focus on any details that were wrong, rather than what we got right. When we ask him for some help on homework problems, his usualy response was "Hm, why don't you go back and think about it some more!"
I'm not doubting the positives of that approach to teaching (let alone music creation), but at the same time it wasn't exactly instilling the joy of learning! When you're a musician and you listen to an album like Aja, it is hard to actually enjoy because you can sense the pain and suffering and tweaking to get that final instrumental execution on record.
I've never really understood Becker's role in Steely Dan. He must have done something important, but I can't tell from listening what it is. When I saw them live, Becker was the only musician on the stage that did not deliver any shining moments, at least as far as I could tell. If I had not known that he was actually one of only two of them who actually constituted Steely Dan, I would have thought him rather unimpressive. I once asked this question about Becker's role in the band to a guitarist friend of mine who used to work in a Steely Dan tribute band that played regularly in Lake Tahoe. I thought he might know something I didn't know, but he didn't really have an answer either.
@@briteness He scored the drugs.
Walter Becker was one half of Steely Dan. He was a highly skilled guitarist and played some bass, as well. Walter was the co - songwriter for Steely Dan, along with Fagen. He hated the spotlight, preferring to remain in the shadows, but his incisive guitar playing was essential to Steely Dan's sound. It was said by Fagen that Becker added all kinds of tiny sonic touches, very short moments of instrumental flourishes that would bring songs to a new level. He knew his way around a recording studio, producing other artists with excellent results. Beckers solo albums were top notch, and further illustrated his musicality and ability to craft music that was extremely sophisticated and full of deep groove. Walter Becker was quite simply a brilliant musician, without him, there is no Steely Dan.@@briteness
@@briteness With Becker, there would never have been a "Steely Dan".
@@treff9226 Amen
Excellent, Beefheart's vision was realized AFTER Trout Mask Replica thank you very much. I have a couple of friends that are Beefheart fans. I have tried making that point and they look at me like I'm a leper. Exile on Main St is the album you are supposed to adore. Sticky Fingers is way more interesting.
I remember playing Entroducing back in the day and my then girlfriend came in the room and said 'who is this?' I told her DJ Shadow. That was the only ever time she commented on my music. Ironically she is now married to a DJ, which makes me think that was the moment that stuck in her mind about DJs and cool music.
The watermark kept me laughing throughout the video. Very good. I want it even larger, which would of course not play as well but I figured I'd voice the opinion anyway 👍🙂
It's about time U come around to the mighty BOC!
Everything up to and including Fire of Unknown Origin are killer. The "comeback album" The Symbol Remains is right up there with the classic period! 👍
‘Andy Edwards’ side logo is distractingly big…Great video.!🎸
If you think his *Side LOGO* is distracting...
...then you should see his *Side PROFILE.*
I heard Trout Mask Replica while on a trip of LSD and i thought it so much fun and it had a massive impact on my psyche. I listen to it at least once a year since it was released. My ex-wife complained when i played it but she just couldnt let it wash over her. Thats not why we divorced. I sing along to the lyrics and recall incidents that happened that night. Its not true what they say about not being able to remember the 60s and early 70s due to the drugs.
Great video. 5 Minutes in and you're destroying (ahem) "God Of Thunder", my favourite Kiss song 😀
And I totally, 100% agree with you on 2112 - although Rush is my favourite band of all time. But you are spot on - both on the title suite and on the tracks on side 2.
I love 2112! Im not a prog fan at all, but when I first heard side one at about 12 yrs old (short attention span and all), it completely enthralled me. I bought into the background story of a future dystopian world where art and music are outlawed. I still love it today in my 50’s! I also wholly respect that they, as a band, were effectively given an ultimatum by their record company to make some hit radio singles or risk losing financial support , and they instead decided to do what they wanted instead, and made a concept album - 2112!
Ironically, the album became a huge FM radio success with corresponding strong sales, and they saved their careers!
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2112 song I love and I find it to be one of their best songs so it's not overrated for me. The album however is not strong collectively. I often find myself looping the title track over and over.
I have never understood why Trout Mask Replica is often considered Don Van Vliet's best record. In my mind, Safe as Milk, Mirror Man, and Bat Chain Puller are better. Then of course there is Lick My Decals Off Baby, which is one of the greatest albums ever made. Of course, you have to attuned to the cosmic vibe to dig it.
Pet Sounds just plain stinks. Cheers!
Stick in Clear Spot and I 100% agree with you 😉
it's just the extreme case of the critics echo chamber effect. One influential critic championed it and the rest just repeated it without even listening.
Trout Mask Replica is Van Vliet’s masterpiece.
I'm an old guy now, but I'd never actually listened to all of 'Pet Sounds' until a few years ago. Why? I was never a 'Beach Boys' fan. Sure, I knew 'Good Vibrations' and 'Little Deuce Coupe' and all that, but they just weren't my jam. So I decided to listen to 'Pet Sounds' because it was supposed to be one of greatest albums ever, blah blah blah. Did I like it? Nope. Sure, the vocal harmonizing was kind of sort of interesting, but other than that, fuggataboutit. Not even really worth a second listen.
I bought Trout Mask Replica back in the '70s as a teenager. It freaked me out when I first heard it but I only owned a few albums and so I played it many, many times and it just kind of took me over as a parallel universe I could escape into every day after school. In these days of streaming and short attention spans I doubt many people get past thinking WTF on first play. I think it's an extraordinary record but it's not for everyone - whether you like TMR is possibly a good diagnostic of whether you're neurodivergent or neurotypical...
Some very good points... Andy I would like your opinion on Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, in some future podcast.... on another note I do not get/understand Rush to this day....Much like Kiss on record... maybe their live shows are good... but otherwize?????
Great fun. On Blue Oyster Cult, there's a small masterpiece on their first self-titled album - 'Then came the Last Days of May'.
And the live version of Last days of May is a BIG masterpiece!!! (On your feet or on your knees)
The Blue Oyster Cult story is hilarious. 😂
Yeah. I wasn't sure where he was going at first. Secret Treaties is in no way overrated. It's the best album by one of the most seriously underrated bands of all time. Astronomy may be my favorite song of all time depending on what phase the moon is in when you ask me
I loved BOC Secret Treaties from the first time I heard it. Still love it and listen to it often.
Oddly, I HATED Pink Floyd’s Wish You Were Here upon first listen. Now it’s in my top 20 albums of all time. Weird.
What a great take. LMAO.
Secret Treaties is indeed a masterpiece kickass American rock album. One of the best ever. Agents of Fortune would be the actual overrated one, even though it's still a really good album in its own right.
Hey Andy,
It's fantastic that you are more appreciative of BOC because I allways felt that it would be a band you could potentially like.
There's a certain aura os mystery that permeates their songs. The compositions are equal parts acceccible and dark. It's very hard to put into words.
No wonder the song "Don't Fear the Ripper" is used on horror movies / series because even though the rhythm his quite accecible, the harmonized vocals, the pulsating bass, nimble drums, and the epic guitar playing make for a very intense ride indeed.
Keep up the good work.
Cheers
I agree about Aja. Also agree about Exile, Pet Sounds, London Calling. Each of those albums have about 3 songs I love, the rest I never listen to. Exile was recorded in the south of France, I guess for that authentic Americana feel. Ummm, hope you weren't criticizing Fairport Convention. I heard the reference but couldn't make out if you were lumping them into the Americana wanna be's you don't like. They are/were GREAT!!!! Also for Americana, have you listened to Gillian Welch (with Dave Rawlings guitar accompaniment)? Good stuff. We still have a steady genre of "Old Time" music here. More complex than 3 chords but not as complex or fast as Bluegrass. It's hosted in a lot of home concerts around the country, and Nashville of course. Also on The Wall, how many songs could Waters write about the suffering and misery of being a rich rock star?
When I was 11 and liked Iron Maiden and Saxon and Motorhead a boy in my class called Mark Mackinnon lent me his copy of Destroyer saying 'you'll like this, you will.' I listened to the first two songs and gave it back. It was the worst thing my 11 year old ears had ever heard. And remained so until I heard Brain Salad Surgery last week. I'm 54 now.
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it’s far from my favourite ELP album, who are far from my favourite prog band….. but in a weird way I get where you are coming from lol …… despite liking the album.
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Brain Salad Surgery. What an arrogant, pompous album title that is. Then again ELP were arrogant and pompous snobs, weren't they?
"Brain Salad Surgery" cracked me up! 😅
ELP was Kiss for adults.
It's all subjective, but Exile is my fav Stones album, LC is my fav Clash album and I love Endtroducing. Yes you could argue The Wall gets a bit boring, but it has a half dozen classic tracks on it, imo. I do agree with you about Pet Sounds, though. I would also argue that Rumours is overrated. Stuart
Nevermind all that. Nothing is as overrated as Nevermind!
Hello Andy, or anyone who can answer me, please tell me what is the artiste name you drop at 58:05, i don't quit understand it, english is not my natal language and i want to listen to what you give to me
feed me Andy please
John Mayall & the Blues Breakers, Beano
@@xensboy1 thank you
Man, couldn't agree more. Good choices and great video. Some further comments on a few of the albums.
Destroyer - yes, this is my least favorite of their relevant period. An attempt but a failed one at polishing their sound to hit a higher level. As you suggest the Marvelization in the cover art probably hit a right subconscious note with listeners that helped make it seem like the album was more than it was. Hollow, thin, empty etc but I can hear/tell what made it a big fish hook for fans to believe it is their greatest. The almost forgotten album which came out later the same year Rock And Roll Over is filled with hooks, warmth and vibe reminiscent of their first 3 albums which exemplify the "best" of what these sleazebags do. Dressed To Kill, being the most perfect.
Aja - I saw a copy of this a couple days ago at a thrift store for a couple dollars and it hit me "Wow.. this is the only album of theirs I dont have on disc". Considering they were a huge musical influence for me in the 90s and I was breathing much of their music at the time. But not Aja so much, for the same reasons you mentioned. Katy Lied, Gaucho and The Royal Scam being my favorites. Countdown to Ecstasy close behind. I think the songs on Aja are great, but yeah, have made the same comments to my unreceptive friends that they are overworked and also .. not recorded as well as people swear by. The sound is funneled down to a point and there is less consistent quality between songs. Some sounding noticeably more flat. Unlike the other albums I mentioned which have a more open and consistent sounding production. Aja doesnt "breathe" well.
2112 - dude, yes. Big question mark. Have brought this up to friends and on Facebook many times. This is their most mediocre album. And especially that second side. How can people be so blind to what seems empirically obvious? As is with most things, visual triggers and the buzz/hype/peer and media subconscious mild intimidation to conform your interest to something which leads to defending it because you've committed to it for the wrong reasons. The cover art is what people wanted to hitch their wagon to. Looks "progressive" and cool, vs an owl or a dark Greek looking sculpture drawing. Looks like a glowing button in space for people to want to push. Ha.
The Wall - like with Destroyer, seems like a further attempt to commercialize the music by stripping down any fun frills, looseness, fills or licks that may have existed on previous albums. As if including those elements were too cerebral for multiplatinum sales. Boiled down and like Aja a bit, overworked sounding. Which as we've seen in the industry seems to be rewarded with money, multiplatinum sales, awards and accolades. Ha. "Dumb down the harmony, melody, creativity, rhythm etc if you want to go to the next level".
If you havent seen this already, you may enjoy this live video of Howlin Wolf from 71 in Chicago. Entertaining on several levels. For one, this suburban white interviewer is jive talkin with him at the bar before and between his song performances. Amusing, imagining that time when white people were doing that as a means of empathizing if not naively appropriating black culture. And that black people were used to it and probably onew that it was trying to come from a better place but still messed up. Wolf's performances are fine but mainly I enjoy hearing him talk about stuff. Love his thoughts when asked why his recordings aren't as polished as his peers' albums. Which relates back to the overworked or polished Destroyer/Aja/Wall examples, when he says something to the effect of that he likes to go in and do it without trying too hard to get it right. That that is his "garbage" which he enjoys giving people and that he thinks they need to hear, putting good garbage on a plate and serving it to them. Ha
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Re: Steeley Dan, I was listening to Beato's excellent interview with Warren Haynes before this, and WH mentioned that he was recording 7 Turns with Dickey Betts (RIP) and DB made a couple of mistakes, so WH asked the engineer about fixing it, and the engineer said it's perfect, listen to it like it was the first time hearing it. So WH gave it another listen, and said the mistakes were there, but it sounded perfect.
Beato should be a sports announcer. He treat music, which is ART like baseball players. Best of this, Best of that. He knows NOTHING about music and compares groups and musicians like they're sports stars. That doesn't happen on this channel. Beato is for people who know nothing about music.
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Millions of hardcore music fans would disagree, Ricks channel is loaded with top notch interviews and his breakdowns of music are gold! Did he take your lunch money? He's an excellent musician and his obvious love for music is palpable! Making lists of artists is all in fun, relax.
@@tonys4396 Silly comment. If you want to learn about the ART of making music, watch the Warren Haynes interview. He's played with more music legends than almost anyone alive.
@@treff9226 Beato should be a sports announcer. He treat music, which is ART like baseball players.
@@treff9226 Lists of favorites are fine. Having BEATO TELL people that one musician is better than another is retarded. It's all about how a musician affects YOU. It's not sports. You don't get it which is ok since you know nothing about music. After all, you DID state that Freddie and the Dreamers are underrated and taught the Beatles everything they know. 'nuf said,
Ha-ha, Mr. Edwards, for a moment I was spooked when I saw B.Ö.C. on the list! "Secret Treaties" is one of the greatest albums ever. B.Ö.C. has been on my listening list for the last 50 years, the complete opposite of Kiss, which I can't stand at all!
45:20- Albums as "investments", very very true, you also have talked about albums as :film" and albums as "art form", I love these ideas you put forth....
I've always thought that Kiss were savvy businessmen who saw Early 70's UK Glam (Bolan, Bowie, The Sweet, Slade, etc) and utilized the possibilities of this in the US. They probably also drew from local lad Alice Cooper. A lot of us missed out on Blue Oyster Cult. I don't really know why I never explored their catalog. Exile on Main Street is hard work compared to Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers. Even so, it leaves one in a good mood. Cheers.
I'm half with you in regard to "Exile...",the trouble is,it starts terribly but by the time you get to the end they've just about managed to pull off a great album,the musical equivalent of Liverpools famous 2005 Champions league final performance,if you will.
Always interesting to hear your thoughts. Loved the breakdown of Great Expectations by Kiss. Even as a KISS fan growing up that particular song really made me cringe. I had a good laugh about those lyrics. Loved God of Thunder just because of it is so unapologetically bombastic. I don't know if I would consider this album overrated just because I doubt it is all that highly rated as far as an important rock record.
But the lyrics are clearly tongue in cheek, like Goin' Blind.
A very enjoyable video, Andy! (Once again, I might add). I was hoping that Kiss and "The Wall" by Pink Floyd would be in your top 10 and I'm not disappointed. I disagree with you on "Pet Sounds", since I think there's no weak track on it and the production is very original and although very 1960's, still sound great, but hey... that's a matter of taste, I suppose. As for Steely Dan, I would say that it's not only about the perfectionist sound and ditto session musicians, and about the lyrics, but SD also excel in their compositions and general 'exotic' atmosphere, but then again... except for some individual songs I haven't been much of a SD fan, though I do think Donald Fagen's "The Nightfly" is a masterpiece. Oh well, that's just some thoughts of me. Bottomline: looking forward to see more of your videos!
Beefhearts "Ice cream for crow" is my favourite
I think a track like "Upon The My O My" from Unconditionally Guaranteed is wonderful - they reign him in a bit but it still has that great edge.
I love it too, also "Doc at the radar station"
It's Clear Spot & Doc At The Radar Station for me...
Frank Zappa Hot Rats is pretty epic and revolutionary for its time. To have songs so long to become more like suites was definitely avant-garde.
Andy, Your logo is almost as big as your head! a bit distracting. Can you shrink it down a bit next time ? Nice Video. Thanks
Rocks...yes, what a let down...
The knives of indignation started to come out when you first said Secret Treaties was overrated, but quickly sheathed after you explained yourself. Secret Treaties is my favorite album, but the rest of BoC's catalog is worth a deeper dive. They famously toured with Black Sabbath in the 70's on the Black and Blue tour. And, yeah, let's get into Killing Joke too!
Spectres is another BOC classic ... in fact all three of those in a row, from Secret Treaties thru Agents and Spectres are masterpieces ....
Please check out Chuck Mangiones Alive album featuring Steve Gadd in 1972 and Tony Levin. You will be blown away!
Uh oh, something's wrong with me. I just watched an Andy Edwards video, and I agreed with 99% of it. I need to go see a doctor soon.
A Rock n Roll Doctor I presume!
@@coolmark4851 They call him Dr. Music...
I could not agree more about PET SOUNDS. Just a lot of naval-gazing as Brian sits in his sandbox.
THE WALL however-- Side 3 is a masterpiece.
I agree but I think you mean navel-gazing rather than 'naval' gazing (unless you mean he spent a lot of time looking at sailors)!
@@DarkSideOfTheMoule I'd like to say Brian watched the US warships sail past while he patty-caked sand castles, but it'd be bullshit.
@@AnnieVanAuken LOL! Perhaps he was - 'God Only Knows' what might have been going through his mind at the time. The cover of their Holland album had a nautical theme.
@@DarkSideOfTheMoule It's the surf band that never mounted a board.
My favorite Beach Boys song is "Heroes & Villains".
@@AnnieVanAuken I love that track - so many parts to it and a really innovative use of vocal harmonies. I like some of the more obscure tracks from Smiley Smile (the original 60s album) like Wind Chimes.
I once worked with a guy who lived across the street from the BOC guy, Eric Bloom.
Should have kept in touch with him. The Long Island Expressway used to have a big sign:
"Welcome to Long Island - Home of Blue Oyster Cult"
As a youngster in the 70s I thought Kiss were a parody of 70s rock, of both glam and hard rock. Before I knew what the word parody meant I genuinely thought they were "mock rock" in Bob Harris's famous words. I had a mate at the time around 1978 who bought one of their singles and he was into punk but would occasionally buy stuff like Derek and Clive and I just thought he'd bought another comedy record. When Spinal Tap came out I never found it funny as I thought Kiss had already covered that territory but on a grander epic scale, making a career out of lampooning rock.
I would agree that the Beach Boys are not the American Beatles They simply don't have the reach or overall worldwide musical influence that the Beatles did and to some degree still do. However, that doesn't mean their albums are overrated. Like the Beatles and, well, almost every artist I can think of, their albums have some fantastic cuts and production and then some duds or just average songs that seem like filler. It's only the deep diving musical nerds or producer types that hold Pet Sounds in such high regard but not for the songs. Although there are some great ones on it. Instead it's for the production values which are great but not what the average listener is concerned with.
It's The Beatles.
@@stevea6307 Yep. Brain fart. Fixed it. Thanks.
@@davep2945 He's been a real pain ever since he took that "English for Adults" course.
Great video Andy and I agreed on every choice but "Exile on Main Street:" I always thought "Exile" was like the Stones' White Album. It's a little bit of all over the place stylistically, but it's still a masterpiece. But could you please shrink your watermark. It's almost like you have two heads on the video! 🤣🤣🤣
If you want to explore Blue Oyster Cult's catalogue further, a great place to start is the Spectres album. (home of Godzilla)
I don't agree with your opinion of London Calling and Aja, but you're so right about Pet Sounds. It's one of those Emperor's New Clothes albums, that everybody wants to say is a masterpiece because Paul McCartney lauded it so profusely. I think proof enough it's not an all-time classic is the fact that the Beach Boys never released any other album that's considered a classic. It may be their best album, but nothing more. They're a true singles band IMO, with some great, great songs.
didn't Bowie and Gabriel wear makeup and do theatrics long before the KISS?
I think Roy Wood wore make up with Wizzard before amy of them.
Not to forget Arthur Brown.
It was all around the same time. Arthur Brown came earlier than all of them.
@@zachjohnson637 Little Richard beat them all by a decade.
@@mindspringers2447 At what point did Little Richard wear facepaint?
All steve wilson, coldplay, radiohead, pixies, elo,, the clash.
radiohead fans are annoying but the music is amazing.
@@jamosbigjaw1791haha bang on
Word. Weird Fishes is alright though. Knives Out, The Bends generally but they are a bunch of wankers so, yeah, balls to the lot of 'em
@@johncleary6126 I love Radiohead, but I don’t think they’re exactly ‘free thinkers’ although they’re at they’re best when producing music. They listened to prog and fusion as inspiration for the Ok Computer album then denied liking any of it apart from ‘Bitches Brew’.
Of course you didn’t lads.
The opening three track salvo on ‘Ok Computer’ is their finest hour album wise. The rest drops a bit if I’m honest. Individual tracks on other albums are sublime as far as I’m concerned. But I’m in my 50’s. Younger Radiohead fans can be really pretentious and have clearly read too many journalists with their bullshit rhetoric.
That's what bothers me about middle class toss pot journos and musos. They always cite the same rabble be it Velvets, Television, Neil fucking Young...they're incapable of saying the word 'stooges 'with out the suffix MC5 for some bizzarre reason. I know Radiohead are influenced by, amongst others, Rush and Focus...they sound like a cross between ELO and Queen. I know because so am I, that's how you reach compétence on your instrument. Listening to the afore mentioned racket does not inspire you to write pyramid song or paranoid android. It's obvious I just wish they'd stop the bullshit and admit to learning their trade, from some of the best in the business
Very nicely done, so thanks for that. I haven't heard all of the albums you mentioned, but of those that I have heard-"Exile on Main Street," "London Calling," "Pet Sounds" and "The Wall"-I have to agree with you. They are, overall, pretty uninteresting and bring no delight, with the exception of a couple songs or so.
I'll have to give a listen to the two Captain Beefheart albums you mentioned that followed Trout Mask Replica.
I've not heard the blue Oyster Cult album "Secret Treaties," but I have the two albums with their big hit songs, namely "Spectres" and "Fire of Unknown Origin." I'll admit that the rest of those albums seemed boring, but maybe after your comments I'll give them another go with an expectation that it might be good instead of that it's surely rubbish.
I do like Steely Dan and "Aja," I'll admit it, but I don't think that "Aja" is anything like one of the greatest albums of all time. It has more songs on it that I like than many of the earlier Steely Dan albums, which all definitely have some clunkers. I like "Gaucho" very well. And yes, as I've said before, my socks are all nicely ordered in the drawer. Your comment about Steely Dan … "anal retarded" … ha! ha! That was a good one.
In talking about "Entroducing," by DJ Shadow, of 1996, you said that "it was the pinnacle of sample art…"; and you also mentioned that "…it was more of a novelty than anything else…" I want to introduce you to something that I think of a much more of a pinnacle of sampling, "Plunderphonics," by the Canadian composer John Oswald. He released an EP with four tracks in 1985, and a full, twenty-five-track LP in 1989. He made large samples of songs (like Michael Jackson's "Bad," Elvis Presley's "Don't," Dolly Parton's "The Great Pretender," some of Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring," and about seven minutes of the cries and moans and yells of James Brown (I almost split a gut laughing the first time I heard that), and manipulated them heavily through the new-at-the-time Synclavier, which was a music synthesizer, sampler, and music workstation that came out in 1977. (Frank Zappa's "Jazz from Hell" album was done with a Synclavier.)
Anyway, I first heard "Plunderphonics" on a Tuesday night radio program-it was either a local college station or the local National Public Radio station (this was in Los Angeles) of esoteric, electronic, and generally artsy weird stuff in about 1990, and I was completely blown away by the inventiveness, strangeness. I really loved it, and still do. It can be kind of hard to get ahold of, I think, as several of the artists sampled on it raised legal objections, and what's currently available seems to include more than the original twenty-five tracks, so it might not have the same impact as the original.
Quoting from Wikipedia: "In 1990, notice was given to Oswald by the Canadian Recording Industry Association on behalf of several of their clients (notably Michael Jackson, whose song "Bad" had been cut up, layered, and rearranged as "Dab") that all undistributed copies of Plunderphonics be destroyed under threat of legal action." But that was pretty meaningless, as Oswald had just made some copies and sent them to radio stations to play; there really weren't any commercially available discs to buy.
I highly recommend it.
Yes I second that, Exile I've already made a mention of, never understood the acclaim, London Calling, Andys spot on , what else is there besides the title track, Pet Sounds, yes whats so good about it and The Wall overlong and over the top . Never liked Kiss or Blue Oyster Cult and never heard of the rest, another Andy notch on the bedpost !
Good list. Can't argue with any of those. The most influential thing about Pet Sounds is it inspired the scene in Walk Hard where Dewey brings a llama into the recording studio.
The moany voice monologue is back without a breath! And about time too Andy! LOL. ANY album by Public Enemy is overrated, but a group championed by you!!"!!. Jeez you are a drummer and almost all the tracks have the same beat that a beginner could play, with no change in pitch or tempo of the "music" throughout!
"It takes a nation of millions to hold us back" is a pretty fine album, in fairness.
@@MisAnnThorpe Fear of a Black Planet too. I think they were incredibly innovative at the time, certainly a lot of their use of dissonance and noise helped inspire a lot of the hip hop of that era, and certainly left an imprint on much of rave music.
It's legendary and so are Public Enemy, one of a handful of most important rap artists of all time! I have about ten rap albums, total, six of them are from Public Enemy.
Public Enemy can't be overrated, they deserve all the acclaim that has come their way. They wrote about social issues others were afraid to touch, with incisive detail, humor and depth. The groundbreaking sampling was done by The Bomb Squad, who set the standard for mixing samples seamlessly into music that was far more funkier and groove based than other hip hop artists, and then adding Chuck D's commanding, authoritative rapping on top of futuristic sounding hip hop that had a kind of heavy metal power and urgency to it, not to mention Flavor Flav's unhinged raps, adding even more character to a sound and style all their own......Nah, Public Enemy's standing in the hip hop pantheon will only grow larger over time, they were special.
@@shonkyindustriesBomb Squad's brilliant use of sampling was groundbreaking, setting a new standard! Public Enemy's music will sound and hit hard hundreds of years from now - they were just different from everyone else! The CNN of the ghetto!
Trout Rat Mescalin, is that what you were trying to say?
Not sure how I stumbled across your channel as I'm not a huge fan of Prog and struggle with Jazz, but I am so glad I did as your vids are a joy! For seven of the albums on your list I've had heated debates in pub with fans of Floyd, Clash and especially beach Boys. I bought Pet Sounds when £5.99 was a lot of money. I expected something unbelievable and was really disappointed. God Only knows is a great song and Wouldn't it be nice is good but a lot of average songs. Not a patch on Love's Forever Changes.
Hell yeah "Secret Treaties"! Definitely dive all the way in man. Love how you did this, my heart sank at first...then warmed all up, so glad you went back to this Classic!
Yes, Steely Dan’s perfectionism is on full display on aja, but focusing on that seems very wrong to me. There is just so much sublime goodness to be had.
I hope you didn't put Aja on this list because that's one of the most incredible albums in the history of Music along with Todd Rundgren something anything so if you did your brain is rotted out.
Amen! Music at its highest level! Aja is so well played and produced, it makes shitty stereos sound good! People will criticize freakin' rainbows and puppy dogs!!! WTF?!?
@@treff9226it’s so tastefully played and produced that it’s boring as feck. It’s music for musos, utterly soulless, bland and sterile
@@tayporttonyWell after thinking about it for a little bit, I guess that kind of perfectionism can take the passion out of it for some people, but to my ears, the elite musicianship and the sonic detail gives separation to the instruments, for me the music on Aja fills my ears with goodness! I've been called an audiophile, I don't know if that's a good thing or bad. Been listening to a lot of 70's rock and roll and all the analog recordings from that time period really sound good to me, more natural and immediate, sonics give off a "live" feel to the music.
@@tayporttonyit’s only boring to boring people
There is no way "Exile on Main St." could be overrated! This would be an impossible task!
Says every worshipper on his knees.
I like it - its murky and dirty and just has a certain feel, but it is my least favorite out of the 4 during the "classic" period.
it's totally overrated, such a forgettable record
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For me, the sound mix the Stones found on Exile was the perfect blend of rock eclectic instrumentalism. They never exceeded Tumbling Dice for instance.
About Pet Sounds: I always had the feeling what to think of it. Some great songs, yes. But sonly some. You described it well!
Trout Mask Replica was my first Beefheart album in the late 70s, and I just loved it because I was so much into experimental music (still am). But my next album was Spotlight Kid and as I went on buying more albums I got to realize that TMR is in fact the great outlier in Beefheart’s repertoire, and FZ’s influence is definitely palpable. I started to realize that when I listened to the recently released “Hot Rats Sessions”. But I still think it’s a great album even if I don’t listen that often to it anymore. Then again, it takes a certain mood to listen to work by Kaija Saariaho as well. I think Beefheart’s later work (Bat Chain Puller, Doc at the Radar Station, Ice cream for Crow) are the ultimate synthesis of his musical vision.
Aja was my introduction to Steely Dan but I agree it’s just way too slick and intentionally over perfected, like PF’s The Wall. I’m amazed you didn’t mention Lou Reed’s Berlin, which was also produced (and over-produced) by Bob Ezrin, though the underlying songs are often timeless.
AJA??? Andy. I LOVE your channel and your videos. I HATE those channels where they are doing things like "The Top Ten Guitar Players Of All Time" etc. . This isn't sports where you can rate a baseball player by his stats. This is ART. OK, that said, believe it or not, I have agreed with every video you have done so far. (Yes, I HAVE watched them). THIS time around I agree with everything you said about every album you covered EXEPT for AJA by STEELY DAN. I actually feel that it's a very UNDERRATED album in the whole scheme of things. I love Classic Rock, Jazz and Classical music. Aja is definitely in my top ten albums of all time. I'm 74, been playing and listening to music all my life. I don't watch TV. The minute I get in the house, the music goes on. Literally THOUSANDS of recordings of every genre. That said, I LOVE your channel and love your opinions. Stop apologizing. You're GREAT! Now I have to go listen to the Aja album.
2112 is, without a doubt, overrated. The intro into Temples is one of my favorite pieces they ever did (especially the live version from Different Stages), but most of the rest of the record really drags and nothing ever really feels cohesive. Their next handful of albums pretty much all surpass it by miles, imo. And Moving Pictures is perfect as far as I'm concerned, even if I've had to hear that one song way too many times.
BOC is a relatively new acquisition for me. And my BOC story is kind of funny as well:
I found this band called Ghost (BC at the time) and I really dug what they were doing. Not my favorite band or anything, but it's 100% my vibe. There were, of course, lots of haters in the metal scene and one of the biggest "complaints" was that they were just ripping off BOC. Now, I've heard Reaper and Godzilla millions of times and thought they were ok, but for me it was always just kind of "dad rock."
Eventually, after hearing this criticism of Ghost over and over, it just made sense to me to check out BOC for real. I mean, I like Ghost, so you know, maybe? Right? Worth a shot.
Holy shit man. BOC is a FANTASTIC band and I highly recommend scooping up whatever you can find. I think I've got 5 studio albums and 2 live ones now, and I got them all at a local record store for less than $10 a pop and they're ALL good (I really really like Fire of Unknown Origins, its weird and has an outstanding album cover). And don't sleep on the live albums, they are incredible. I'm right here with you like "how did I miss this?"
And to answer the burning question, no. Ghost did not rip them off. There's certainly some influence from specific eras of BOC, but it's influence that you want to hear, it's not derivative. So thank you Ghost haters for turning me on to another of a very small collection of American rock bands that I love.
always good to hear peoples thoughts & opinions on things. I grew up in a small town in Australia in the 70s & 80s and loved Kiss. I had no idea what they looked like. We did not have a TV and there were no music magazines, so all I had was the radio. Listening to Detroit Rock City etc... for the first 2 years of listening to them (usually late at night) I had on idea what they looked like it. still in my top bands ever. their first 5 albums are incredible.
Jolly good show. I say they all play the next great festival “Blokestock”. Haha. I love some of these bands with the deepest part of my soul..
I think Gerry Raffety is a superb songwriter
Whatever U2 album people claim is the good one.
Lol. True
please don't mention U2, some of us have just eaten
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U2 albums that are loaded with melodic gems:
Boy
October
War
The Unforgettable Fire
The Joshua Tree
Achtung Baby
These albums include some of the most beautiful/creative and richly lyrical tunes ever produced.
U2 always bored me to death.i know people have their own taste,but I can’t imagine people sitting at home listening to them
Your critical analysis of Kiss's Great Expectations is top level. Love the idea of them considering the plot of Dickens' novel and just thinking, "Can't we make it about shagging groupies?"
About 20 years ago I baught 2 van morrison albums astral weeks and moon dance I hated astral weeks on first listen loved moon dance played astral weeks one more time and now it's in my all time top 10 albums of all time ❤ps love ur show andy
Fantastic album, Astral Weeks.
Van Morrison just jams! IDGAS how many times I hear "We Were Born Before The Wind" while sitting in a bar or car. I get the same energy vibe I got when I heard "Into The Mystic" for the first time. No bout a doubt it. Just saying... +Peace & Rock n' Roll 4 Your Soul My Friends+ 🤘😜🤘
Moving Pictures is Rush's best album by far. It's in top 5 best recorded and performed record in history imo...yes I'm a Rush head. But 2112 is prob #6 for me in their catalog. I like Hemispheres, Permanent Waves, AFtK and Signals over 2112.
By anyone's standards, 2112 is a very good album but, within the confines of the Rush 'canon 'it's pretty poor. Better than Rush, Snakes and Arrows and Roll the Bones certainly but there are some very weak moments, Bangkok and Something for Nothing, Twilight Zone and, perhaps Overture and Soliloquy the exceptions
As another rush fan. Hemispheres and Moving pictures are overrated. Cos and Fbn and Power windows are way underrated.
2112 is not overrated the second side is better than side one and side one is exceptional.
Ask 100 rush fans to rank their albums and get 100 different answers.
Interesting Rush were an underground band but the last few years they seem to be bigger than ever
@@johncleary6126I have always perferred the Exit… Stage Left version of A Passage to Bangkok instead of the version on 2112.
Although your world wonders me
With your majestic and superior cackling hen
Your people I do not understand
So to you I shall put an end
And you'll
Never hear
Surf music again
I always thought it was "superior Catholic hand."
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