Salamanders vs Night Lords - The Horus Heresy (Battle Report)
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Allegiance: Loyalist
XVIII: Salamanders
Rite of War: The Covenant Of Fire (SAL)
HQ: +
Centurion
. Champion: Artificer Armour, Warhawk Jump Pack
. . Bolt Pistol
. . Chainsword: Chainsword
. . Magna Combi-Weapon: Magna Combi-Weapon - Meltagun
. Champion
Centurion, Tartaros: Herald
. Herald: Legion Standard, Thunder Hammer
Praetor: The Weight of Duty (Loyalist only), Warlord
. Legion Praetor: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Master-craft one weapon, Paragon Blade
Elites: +
Firedrake Terminator Squad: Dragonscale Shield
. Firedrake Master: Thunder Hammer
. Firedrakes: Thunder Hammer
. Firedrakes: Thunder Hammer
. Firedrakes: Thunder Hammer
. Firedrakes: Thunder Hammer
. Land Raider Proteus Carrier: Twin-linked Lascannon
Troops: +
Assault Squad: Combat Shield
. Legion Assault Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Lightning Claw
. 11x Legionary: 11x Bolt Pistol, 11x Chainsword
. Legionary w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Power Sword
. Legionary w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Power Sword
. Legionary w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Power Sword
Despoiler Squad
. Despoiler w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Power Axe
. Despoiler w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Power Axe
. Despoiler w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Power Axe
. Despoiler w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Legion Vexilla
. 10x Despoilers (collective): 10x Bolt Pistol, 10x Chainsword
. Legion Despoiler Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol
. . Chainsword: Chainsword
Pyroclast Squad: 4x Pyroclasts
. Pyroclast Warden: Power Fist
. Rhino Transport: Dozer Blade, Multi-Melta
Pyroclast Squad: 4x Pyroclasts
. Pyroclast Warden: Power Fist
. Rhino Transport: Dozer Blade, Multi-Melta
Fast Attack: +
Outrider Squadron: Twin-linked Plasma Gun
. Legion Outrider Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol
. . Chainsword: Chainsword
. Legion Outriders: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword
. Legion Outriders: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword
. Legion Outriders: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword
. Legion Outriders: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword
Heavy Support: +
Kratos Squadron
. Kratos: 2x Lascannons, Flare Shield, Hull (Front, Right/Left) Mounted Lascannons, Melta Blast-Gun
Leviathan Dreadnought Talon
. Leviathan: Cyclonic Melta Lance, Cyclonic Melta Lance, Phosphex Discharger
. . 2x Heavy Flamers
Leviathan Dreadnought Talon
. Leviathan: Leviathan Storm Cannon, Leviathan Storm Cannon, Phosphex Discharger
. . 2x Heavy Flamers
Allegiance: Traitor
VIII: Night Lords
Rite of War: Terror Assault (NL)
HQ: +
Sevatar: Sworn Loyalty, Warlord
Elites: +
Apothecarion Detachment
. Apothecary: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour
. . Chainsword: Chainsword
. Apothecary: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour, Warhawk Jump Pack
. . Chainsword: Chainsword
Contekar Terminator Squad: 6x Contekars, Dissident, Escaton Power Claw, 7x Volkite Cavitor
Contemptor Dreadnought Talon: Preysight
. Contemptor Dreadnought: Gravis Melta Cannon, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon, Meltagun
. Contemptor Dreadnought: Gravis Lascannon, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon, Meltagun
Contemptor Dreadnought Talon: Preysight
. Contemptor Dreadnought: Gravis Chainfist with in-built ranged weapon, Gravis Lascannon, Meltagun
Night Raptor Squad
. Huntmaster: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Chainglaive
. 6x Night Raptor w/Chainsword: 6x Bolt Pistol, 6x Chainsword
. Night Raptor w/Power Weapon: Power Axe
. Night Raptor w/Power Weapon: Power Axe
. Night Raptor w/Power Weapon: Power Axe
Troops: +
Tactical Squad
. Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Chainglaive
. 9x Legionary: 9x Bayonet, 9x Bolt Pistol, 9x Bolter
. Rhino Transport: Dozer Blade
Tactical Squad
. Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Chainglaive
. 9x Legionary: 9x Bayonet, 9x Bolt Pistol, 9x Bolter
. Rhino Transport: Dozer Blade
Terror Squad: Preysight, 9x Rotor Cannon
. 9x Executioner w/Chainsword: 9x Bolt Pistol, 9x Chainsword
. Headsman: Artificer Armour, Chainglaive
Fast Attack: +
Sabre Strike Squadron: Preysight
. Sabre: Heavy Bolter, Neutron Blaster, 4x Sabre Missile
Sabre Strike Squadron: Preysight
. Sabre: Heavy Bolter, Neutron Blaster, 4x Sabre Missile
Heavy Support: +
Land Raider Spartan
. Land Raider Spartan: 2x Lascannon Array, Flare Shield, Hull (Front) Mounted Twin-linked Lascannon, Preysight
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hi i have a question is the co axial rule still in work in 2nd HH edition ?
Man the armies are so beautiful! That Salamander force really punches you in the face.
Best Hersey on UA-cam.
Couldn't agree more. Thanks thanks for your kind words ❤️
Yes for a part 2 please. Love the idea of an Istvaan mini-campaign. Gorgeous looking armies.
More to come!
Tip for preysight. You can't evade shots from units with nightvision. It makes Night Lords antitank very deadly :). Great game as always!
Yeah Stevie G keeps forgetting
Awesome bat rep. Great to see fellow Sallies on the battlefield. Just noticed that Pardo tanked artificer on his Pyro Sergeant, but no need since all Pyro are artificer. Might have also been more useful to use pyroclast melta bombs on the Contemptor, since the whole squad has em. Don't forget to roll for those it will not die as well !
Aside from that, fantastic bat rep n great lookin armies and battlefield!
Do they all have meltas! Awesome man! Yeah we were doing the It will not die off camera and just got one hull point back in the whole game 🤣
Crawling Fire allows you to move the blast 2" not 3". Also Pyroclasts all have 2+ Saves. Also also, you can refuse challenges, the opposing player decides which model does not fight in this fight, which would have been the apothecary
Did we say 3”? Sorry about that. Year we forgot Pyroclasts all have 2+ and also didn’t know that about challenges I have just reread that 😮
Always love your bat reps guys beautiful armies and loads of enthusiasm, brilliant!
Couple of rules points just to be helpful, units who are pinned cannot react ie the pyroclasts overwatch, and bikes cannot be pinned as theryre cavalry. Also bloody murder would have given the contekar and sev +1 attack, not sure if that was used or not
Perfect thanks we need to be reminded about these things! We did use the extra attacks but didn’t know about cavalry not being able to be pinned. Were the pyroclasts pinned??
@SNBattleReports I believe so, they were pinned by the explosion of the transport, if I remember correctly you rolled either 7 or 8 either result would pin you due to night fighting and sevatars level 2 fear. As they're pinned they couldn't react , the pinning would only end once locked in combat
@ yep just an oversight from us sorry
@SNBattleReports I'm loving to switch to heresy, it's always awesome stuff from you guys! I'm deeply invested in the zone mortalis tournament great idea!
@@robinhood6990 Awesome to hear! and thanks for supporting
Tables looking better and better, nice work gents
Cheers boss
I do believe that the Pyroclasts all Artificer Armour. Glad to see the XVIIIth LEgion get some showtime!
Yes we forgot that thanks!
Looks gorgeous guys, seriously looking at a starter box
Bro do it! Check the link below element games have great discounts!
Gonna have to report this video for explicit sexual content.. these armies are too good to be shown publicly! Think of the children!?
Hahaha love this 💕
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This is what wer are here for! Everything is a visual spectacle, the terrain, the armies, the rosters, the paint jobs and the players! Horus Heresy just keeps winning!
P.S I just realized that is the dreadnought that Medder's was painting on his channel!
Yes it is was testing out the new paints with it 🙌🏽
Always a good day when there is a new SN video.
Thanks boss! 🙌🏽
Loved this battle report Gents lovely armies painted by Rob aswell. Big fan of his and your work 👍
Thanks Richard 🙏🏽
Great vid, looking forward to seeing more of these guys - especially the Salamanders.
Glad you enjoyed!
Absolutely brilliant! Thank you so much!
You're very welcome!
I could be wrong, but dont all Pyroclasts have artificer armour? Around 1:07:20 they had 1 artificer save made for them and then some 3+ saves. I might be wrong but i swear they all have artificer armour, not just the Pyroclast Warden.
Yes they all have 2+ so no idea why that went through out head as we know that 🤣
Good spot buddy
Great battle rep guys, those dreadnought were awesome fighting it out in the center.
Stevie got get those Sabres on the flanks and race down for side shots.
Agreed! They have a special rule to move extra don’t they?
Gorgeous armies as always. Love your content 🔥❤️
Thanks Champ x
Don't forget the Lingering Death rule on the Phospex Discharger. :)
Yeah we have a house rule where we give the penalty to the unit and not leave blasts behind
@SNBattleReports Oh, that makes sense!
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I feel like maybe the Melta Leviathan could be a sneaky MVP? Took out the Contekar, sending Sevetar on the run, took out the Spartan… I mean it worked well with the Kratos. Great battle rep guys. Stevie G rolling like a boss!
Yeah agreed he was a black horse wasn’t he!
Beautiful armies. Btw, you can't shroud vs preysight units since night vision ignores shrouded saves.
Good spot we completely forgot! Thanks
Love the armies and the lists. Totally agree bikes should be more survivable.
Thanks boss
Go traitors.
Turn One, can the Pyroclasts react with an Overwatch when they are pinned -?
No they shouldn’t of reacted
Shouldn’t have! Good spot thanks
Stunning armies that are well balanced against each other, a beautiful board, thoughtful players and a great game!
Thank you very much! 🙌🏽
The target unit is affected by the Fearless special rule.
A unit that has become Pinned cannot Move, Run or Charge. It can only fire Snap Shots if it attacks during the Shooting phase and cannot make Reactions in any Phase
Second part is correct
First part I dont understand what you mean
Is this the studio’s new Salamander army? Looks great!
Yes it is buddy
So amazing game! Thanks you both!
Our pleasure!
This should be a good one CPT PARDO
🍀💚🍀
Enjoy Steve
Vehicle squads are awful in general, but don't overlook them in NL. Two vehicles outnumber basically everything. It's especially great for autocannon sabres, who get to pretend that they're Iron Warriors. Rapier batteries also become absolute shenanigans with the +1 to wound/pen.
Yeah agreed great for some sabres. Why the autocannons ones?
@@SNBattleReports Cost and capability. Autocannon + multi-melta is 5 points more than the neutron blaster. Between the legion trait and rending, the autocannon glances AV 14 on a 5 on a twin-linked, sundering weapon. More importantly, you're freeing up points for the multi-melta, which is effectively S9 and attached to a fast platform. With everything twin-linked and with either sunder or armourbane, it's not the highest damage output unit, but it is extremely reliable in dishing out meaningful damage using only a fast attack slot. For relatively few points, you can have a surprisingly durable (thanks to night fighting) unit that can zip around the battlefield and take out anything AV13 or below without help, chunk out of possibly explode AV14, and out-flank flare shields. By comparison, the neutron blaster is potentially amazing, but too unreliable on its own, and too expensive if taken with a multi-melta.
You can take saves on apothecaries (like when there was only the apothecary and the one terror squad marine)
@@dhawkeye4439 yeah correct
Beautiful armies
Thanks Mr Red
beautiful!
You are!
47:17 How did they get overwatch? Didnt they fail their pin check with the night fight and Sevie's Fear (2)?
Yes they did! We got that wrong as a oversight sorry
@SNBattleReports knowing how long it takes to film quality 40k batt reps i can only imagine how long it takes for 30k and then keep track of all the little things in between.
I thought you could turn down a challenge but it just means that characters, in this case an apothecary, couldn't attack back? Time reference 1hour 34mins
Great report guys. Love the armies
Yes correct we got that wrong. Also can’t use the leadership
I give this battle report an 11 out of 10.
Yeyyyy
@@SNBattleReports Soon I am going to start another project with Istvaan V survivors as Shattered legions and seeing your new Salamanders gives me additional motivation and ideas for that 1/3 of the project (and recently we saw those amazing Iron Hands and Raven Guard armies in Zone Mortalis). It seems the timing of your battle reports and new armies you add along the way and my hobby plans are really well synchronized.
Need to see Kurze XP farming on Vulcan
Needs to happen 🤣 🔥
Yes finally! Ave dominux nox
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Those Salamanders are top drawer, and nice to see some new units 👍 Great game 👌
Q on the challenges - I thought you could only not accept a challenge if you were a unit that is a single character, not the only character in a unit? (Heroic Stand). Has that been FAQ / house ruled or am I just plain reading it wrong? 😂
Sorry we just got that wrong at that point 😂
@@SNBattleReports ha fair - thought I was doing it wrong, not that the brave Word Bearers would ever refuse challenges... 😆
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During the assault marines Vs Raptors fight the Sallies would have been fearless as the champion entered into a challenge (with the apothecary) would they not ?
Let me check the wording again but you might be right!
Since the apothecary didn't actually have to accept the challenge (unless it was part of the mission rules or a house rule), the champion wouldn't have been fearless.
Love the Salamanders but Sevatar is the only traitor I root for.
Good choice 🙌🏽
I have a feeling the Night Lords said some very not nice things to the Salamanders in their intervox communication chat
Chiwiwiiii 😂
U still are my fav horus heresy battle report channel. And u continue to impress with the armies. Good to see nightlords and salamanders . Can we see iron warriors and the emperors children armies again...why ? Well I'll admit I'm selfish those are 2 of the 4 legions I play :p. But I play iron hands as storm walkers , my word bearers as j perial heralds (my main), emperors children just as the 3rd legion, death guard as dusk raiders , ultra marines as war born and finally world eaters a war hounds . I play the imperial heralds and war hounds as my 2 main becuase they are brother legions bound by fate. Argal tal to his fall to chaos as the gal vorbak which he used to protect his brother in arms...kharn. so my imperial heralds I play as their original gray armor and insignia and argal tal he has his dual claw atificiciar power armor. His armor is a vary dark gray wirh hints of red (a custom model I had made) in his gal vorbak form he wileds the custodian spear and sword like the lore a d his galvorbak model I also had custom made. Kharn is custom made where his left arm is covered is a gold gladiator style armor like in some images seen online. I always try to play them as a co legion army. But I can play either armor independently as well. I will finish getting my other crusade armies each to atheist 5,000 points. As in the storm walkers, dusk raiders, 3rd legion...the war born I will deviate and keep them called the war born but I will make them into the 22 d nemesis destroyers. So I will be taking 2 basilisk and 2 Medusa models and hybrid then together to make just 2 tanks.
I'm sorry for the rant but everytime I see your battle reports I just get excited and want to share my passion projects with you becuse of all the channels on youtube...I honestly feel you will understand my passion. And I currently am working with a 3d modeling artist to make my own legions unit totally unique to me (as in I'm paying for the stl files and the rites to the designs). I live in the United States..Arizona to be specific. I hope one day to travel there and bring my "unique modeled" army. From mark 1 to mark 3. Mark 1 as in the Saturnine Armored terminators, I doubt I'll ever be able to travel to you guys...but maybe you guys can do a special where u have members send images of their armies or u do video interviews for your patreon members...just spitt balling ideas. But I'm sure u are used to me ranting about my armies and how I would live to see your versions maybe of them. Could we maybe do a series of battle reports of the legions before their primarchs?? And progressive series where a person decides on 1 or 2 legions they will play and they play it from its initial start during the great crusade and there were no primarchs aside from horus known of. And overtime as people play (chosen legion) they can slowly change the look of it to current where things are caught up to the horus heresy. (This would be a long series of videos ..beucsse ea person would commit to al9t of work as far as models used, modified, etc etc. If you were ever interested in this idea I have it all fleshed put and could give u the details. (Its something i know only your channel could pull off and some people ive slightly mentioned my passion project to...everyone always gets excited but there are never enough people willing to commit) so curre try I'm a dreamer of 1. 😢
Your passion surely shows and I’m happy to hear we make you get excited. All your projects sound amazing well done
Werent the pyroclasts pinned when the contekar charged them? If so i believe pinned units can't do reactions.
Correct buddy we forgot they were pinned
just so you guys know...im copying the destroyed knight terrain... best in the business for HH, ill be signing up today some time.... Do a terrain show case!
That’s awesome to hear thanks!
Vulkan Lives !!!!! By the Gods I love Salamanders 🔥
🙌🏽 fire!!! Fire!!!!
Vulkan would smash Curze to so much paste…
He would 😂
if contemtor have night vision you can evade?
No mistake from Stevie G he forgot
people always forget the fearless when issuging challenges,also when he wanted to not take the challenge why did you he couldnt ?
Sorry I guess we are talking about the Champion here?
Like and comment to support the channel as usual)
1:16:45 - cavalry can't be pinned
@@yurybarsukov6166 yeah good to know thanks!
If you make a video two I will become a member :)
@@countjeffrey7271 it’s already recording 😉
@@SNBattleReports A deal is a deal. I found the channel yesterday and became a member today because I enjoy it so much.
p. 309 Promethean Will - That's theeee Salamanders Warlord Trait
You like that one??
@@SNBattleReports You ignore armywide Fear (1) and get +1 for pinnig tests. Yes I like that. :)
@ ahh yes that ones great vs Night Lords but we thought it was to much list tailoring
@@SNBattleReports ah, OK. I get this everytime
Steve G could have taken the saves on the Apothecary in the Terror Squad.
Correct!
Shouldn't the pyroclast be BS5?
They are BS4 champ
@@SNBattleReports gotcha. feel they should be bs5. or maybe they were last edition
13:30 Vulkan don't like Phosphex - it's so unhuman.😅
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Pardo and stevie swapping rolling luck lol.
Don't think you can pin Cavalry/ bikes.
Great game though
No you can’t it’s good to know
@SNBattleReports easy to forget when the battle is flowing. Can't be easy to have to film and narrate and try get everything 100% correct
nice to see the Night Lords back note you cant shroud against anything with prey sight
Yeah Stevie G always forgets! It’s so good! I will try and remind him 😉
🥰 Yay! Hopefully my namesake Praetor wins his first battle. 😅 PS: we won, but I died. 💀
Did you hear the intro??
@@SNBattleReports yep I watched it haha. I am working simultaneously and definitely perked up from my documents when I heard my name. 😂
@ haha awesome
Not gonna lie was funny seeing you get so flustered on his insane dice rolls. It's shows your very competitive 😅
Was this for Pardo? He’s the least competitive guy ever he throws away games to try do crazy stuff 😂
don't forget skirmish!!
Who has that apart from the bikes? Which we did 😉
@@SNBattleReports Terror squad and raptors 😉
@ nicee!
Contekar suck, just take a terminator command squad.
Haha agreed but they are just so cool! They just need to target prioritize better