When I was a kid my Aunty could roll a cigarette left-handed while driving. She was a superb pianist, so may have had exquisite control of her fingers, but she drove a Holden without power steering. I think the danger is with power steering a small movement can put you into oncoming traffic while you check your phone - old steering was strongly self-centring.
The very first time I was driving a car in traffic, my driving instructor noticed how tense and fearful I was navigating the fairly calm morning roads. When we got to a very clear-sighted gentle curving road, he said: "I want you to do something right now, when the road is the easiest. Put your right hand onto the gearstick and steer with one hand. Don't think, just do it." I did so and I was pretty amazed that one hand really is all you need for most normal operation of the wheel. My confidence slowly built up and by the time I drove us back to starting point, my fear and tension was much more manageable. So if nothing else, it is an excellent technique to calm down nervous new drivers, such as myself.
The car naturally wants to go unless thier bumps in the road . Turn into a junction let the wheel slide back through your hands the car naturally straightens
It's a good point, but I kind of disagree. Disclaimer: I drive with one hand on the wheel too, (not at 12 o'clock to be clear, but exactly the way you drive here), so I'm not saying what you're doing is wrong and what I'm doing is good. 99% of the time this will serve you well, and it's very comfortable, also allows you softer steering corrections at speed. But here is the catch about that 1% of the time that might change things for you. If you have a powerful car and you're driving spiritedly, I really don't recommend driving with one hand on the wheel (at 4/5 o'clock for example), because you may find something just came up in your path 25 meters ahead and you need to do an evasive maneuver to bypass it. An evasive maneuver usually involves 180 degrees steering wheel turn in one direction and then back quickly. You need two hands for that, in order no to lose control of the car when you do it. And usually you need to do it with your hands on 9 and 3 so that you have good grip of the steering wheel. Now here is the tricky part. *At that speed* in the time it takes you to move your relaxed hand to 3 o'clock and your left hand to 9 o'clock you just crossed that distance and spent the time you had available to correct the situation. By the time you have your hands on the wheel correctly, you probably just slammed into whatever you were trying to avoid on the road. So yeah, again, I am doing it too, but this 1% situation is always in the back of my mind.
@@PointNemo9No it’s not. If temporarily using one hand is fine then permanently using one hand is also fine. If the driver feels the need to put both hands on the steering wheel then he/she will do so. No one’s sitting in the drivers seat to get themselves in trouble. If you’re comfortable and you feel in control then there’s no issue.
i find more important than the one-hand / two-hand distinguisher is to be that you should always aim to pull on the wheel rather than push (pretty sure i got that from one of your other videos mick!) i find myself driving one-handed a lot, but the hand which i'm using changes depending on going left or right (left hand to go left, right hand to go right) pulling is much better at providing finesse than pushing
to me, 9-3 is like "the lean", you know, the moment you get serious. For an easy drive one hand at 4-5 o'clock, and optionally the other at 7-8, works just fine. The entire 9-3 thing is like a speed limit in a sense. Just because it's 50, doesn't mean you should be doing 50 when the conditions just aren't right, and conversly; just becase it's 50, it doesn't mean that you will die immediately when driving 55. One thing tho - one hand at 12. I don't trust people who drive with one hand at 12 :D
only time I use two hands is at high speed, and on windy country lanes. I find if you are cruising on a motorway using two hands is more dangerous as you are tiring both your arms out, i always like to switch grip just to give one arm a rest, or even switch to a low grip. The power steering argument is bang on, you can drive anything with 1 finger let alone an arm XD
In the fifties and before car steering was manual and a bit hard, the steering wheel had to make several complete circles to go from stop to stop, and was larger in diameter, which often needed two hands. Now cars require very light and little inputs to the steering wheel so one handed is ok.
I just got used to having both hands on the steering wheel. Where I live there are a lot of cyclists (and pedestrians) and many either don’t have a driver’s license or just don’t care about motorists or other road users and you therefore have to be extremely cautious around them. That’s a situation I would honestly drive with both hands, especially in the winter where you can’t necessarily brake harshly due to ice on the roads. I also drive a lot in the mountains spiritedly and there you basically have to use both hands.
As owner of a driving school, I have a simple reason for wanting the hands on the wheel at all times. It has nothing to do with everday driving and everything to do with the "one time" that can and does happen to everyone at some point. When something unexpected occurs our reflexes kick in and subconsciously tell us we need both hands on the wheel to maneuver. You even did it in your video subconsciously. Every milisecond counts to avoid a collision so having boths hands on the wheel save you time you may not have.
My inctructor prescribed the pull/push technique and I still use it to this day. Also I always rest my arm on the door and then steer like a cripple, with the left hand up at 9 o'clock and the other hand somewhere down at 4 o'clock (the other way around for me, because I drive a left-hand drive vehicle). I only position my hands on the steering wheel like a normal person, when cornering fast and in roundabaouts, but then I use this strange pull/push technique again.
Was just about to write the same thing!!! I also drive a left-hand drive vehicle and just put my left hand on the door and keep the steering wheel with it at 9 o'clock and when I am cornering fast grab it with 2 hands or even just grab it with both hands when cornering right (don't know just I just feel more safe, more secure when cornering right with both hands than with only one), cornering left I do by just my left hand.
Resting your hand on the door frame is lazy and potentially dangerous. You never know when the split second will occur when you need full control of the car/wheel. Put that view to the IAM or Police pursuit drivers and they would give you a severe telling off.
Me with no powersteering in my daily (I drive 1 handed when chillin and 2 handed when hitting the touge, use 1 hand at the top of the wheel to palm the wheel in parking lots)
@@MickDrivesCars thank you! I'm 17 in the USA and love driving, Ive done everything from 60s VW bettles, ponaic GTOs to 80s and 90s Japanese cars, and really modern stuff too. I love getting to opportunity to drive just about any car and will rarely turn down the chance. I think next on my list might be a GR 86 Wich I'm pretty hyped for
I have a 2013 Toyota Yaris. Also incredibly quick steering. Sometimes I like to just have my fingers at the bottom of the wheel when making light movements.
I'm gonna say... Idk if it's because you carefully select them for the video or what, but the roads you're driving on - seem PHENOMAL. Just my kind of roads - twisty and bendy, engaging, only one lane per direction, usually not much traffic... just lovely.
u need your hand on top of the wheel vin diesel mode, angy look and other hand on the shifter at all times even on an empty motorway. notice how every tailgater looks like this in your mirror
Fun fact: F80s had a different rack than the “normal” 3 and 4 series. One was ZF, the other Presta/ThyssenKrupp I think. The normal racks were appalling, luckily the F87 M2 got the better rack off the M4. But if you back-to-back the N55 with the CS, it’s crazy what a difference software can have on the steering behaviour. Don’t know how it is on the G chassis
To me it’s mostly speed based, above around 50-60 km/hr my second hand will naturally go to the wheel for added control. Just like yours went on the corner, it’s not something you’re actively thinking about.
I have to disagree somewhat. Pulling down on the steering wheel feels much more smooth and precise. That's why you have 2 hands so you can always pull down with one hand or the other. Driving one-handed, say you're taking a left turn, you have to pull up, and then across, and in tighter turns, down again across your body. Again, all these movement, and especially the transitions between them feel much more unstable and jerky than basically just pulling down. That being said, I drive one-handed a lot, especially at lower speeds in the town with super slow sharp corners where you have to go very slow anyway because you have to look out dor pedestrians etc. Even open palm steering. Also driving with one hand changes my whole driving strategy around it - I drive much more conservatively, leaving loads more space for reaction time, anticipating the road and the other drivers' actions etc.
I am driving a Ford Focus 2016 in sunny South Texas , and have observed that driving one-handed places too much strain on my hand/wrists. I have working electronic steering (it uses an electric motor, it is not hydraulic), but the steering is a bit firm, you wouldn't be able to turn it around with one finger. So, I am mostly doing two hands in the 2 o clock and 10 o clock position for driving straight with minor corrections. 3 to 9 is good for curvy roads, but I find that 2 and 10 is less straining for very long drives on straight roads. One hand for sharm turns on roundabouts or intersections, is a no brainer. I don't see an issue driving one handed if one has a steering wheel that is less firm and easy to turn around with minimal force. Which brings me to the mainpoint: maybe the BMW is a better car? 🙄😂🚗 and the steering is more comfortable?
lol so many people hating without watching his full video. He says to use 1 hand vs. 2 hands in different situations… congratulations, yall just fell for his rage bait for engagement
@@underscore_tip The other day suddenly a lorry went of the midle of the road to my side and I had to make a quick correction. I'm glad I used both hands. When all is fine, one would be sufficient though. But with two hands you have better and finer control.
Enjoying your vids atm, with my G87 on the way! I’d appreciate a walk around and a detailed video on the infotainment and settings to switch off etc if possible, thanks!
German driving instructors always want you to use both hands on the wheel all the time on 2 and 10 o clock. I always felt it to be very clumsy, it just didn't felt right. When i feel like i need both hands i use 3 and 9 o clock. But most of the time my left hand is on 9 or 8 o clock and my right hand is always ready to change gears. From my observation people who constantly put both hands on the wheel are the ones who drive very unsettled.
Learner driver: Advanced School of Motoring videos. Got my licence and video suggestions changed to Mick Drives Cars.. UA-cam was like "now you need to LEARN to drive" 😂
Another great vid and love the POV style Mick! I know you’ll probably do it in a separate video but what’re your thoughts on the M2 so far? I know you said you don’t like the fact climate control is hidden behind menus, but apart from that, are they any other bug bears? I am looking to get one soon but (as with most M cars), I’ve heard fuel economy is awful lol. Do you get through quite a few tanks each week? Thanks again mate 👍
Thanks mate! I'm loving it! It's so much car! Coming back to manual has been a bit of a learning curve after not driving one for about 2 years but I'm almost ready to making some manual-focused videos. The car itself is just stupid honestly... so much power. So much brakes. Probably a little too fast for the road, but you can do slidey stuff so it's fun even at low speeds, especially in the wet. I did have to order a taxi after a garden chair I bought wouldn't fit in the boot because the opening was too small. 26mpg since I got the car which is comparable to the Megane's ~28-30... not terrible. I did drain a whole tank in 120 miles having a lot of fun the weekend after I got it. Overall I'm enjoying it a ton, still lots more room for growth in my abilities with it but largely very, very happy. I don't like how much attention it gets :/ feels sketchy parking it anywhere that isn't private so I do think twice about some trips, which I didn't do in the Megane.
@@MickDrivesCars This is so so helpful, thank you for answering this honestly mate. You have made a huge upgrade, and there are always bound to be one or two things, but overall it is a driver's car through and through so I imagine it suits you to the core! I was worried about parking too - I literally haven't seen a single new M2 in the UK. I see lots of G80s but not this, so it's definitely got that novelty factor right now. Hopefully we can go for a drive one day, double M2s, double trouble haha
Nah i had car with no power steering it never tried to rip the steeringwheel out of my hands or simular, in fact, other than when parking, it is exactly same the like driving with power steering
Maybe for motorway and wide streets its ok, but on b roads and tight streets i think its better to have both hands on the wheel just in case you need yo evade something like an animal, a child or an idiot swinging his door open without looking or getting half his car on your lane in a tight corner. I have hit one too many roe deer to do otherwise. I also think some people tend to get too relaxed when driving one handed and end up being sloppy or distracted but we all know those people will drive badly anyway even with two hands haha In the end the most important thing is to be focused and to be confortable
Mick, Im sorry but thats terrible advice. Especially as most of your audience is very young and impressionable. What driving courses / driving qualifications do you have? This is really important to state.
My audience is mainly 25-34 lol I'm an advanced motorbike rider. I gave up on the advanced driving course when they said I'd fail if I didn't shuffle the wheel.
@MickDrivesCars well... I love most of your videos. The content is good... but sometimes you're wrong, and this is one of those times. That age range is still very young. Just for perspective, I'm a former police officer and had the huge benefit and advantage of going through many, very good, fast road driving courses. You get a lot of things right... I particularly enjoyed your video where you spoke of the vanishing point (you called it something else) as you approached corners. You're wrong in this video unfortunately. I think it would be highly beneficial to do some road driving courses with HPC / Jonathan Palmer etc and then relay that back to your viewers. It might even be a good video to publish. You're missing some tricks that would really enhance your channel. I particularly like your new M2 by the way.
@@alivekicking6247 Well, it's nice to hear from someone who knows what they are talking about. One hand on the wheel? apart from the obvious times you need to indicate / turn wipers on etc, Crazy. Watch the in car cameras during a formula one race, no onehanded there.
This advice is downright dangerous and you are influencing a young generation of drivers with some very poor habits. Although you may feel that you are in control of the car and able to make slight corrections, you never know when an incident will suddenly unfold like black ice, a car cutting across you, a lorry on the mootorway sweving due to a burst tire. All these incidents can happen very quickly and you need both hands on the wheel to keep control of the car. If you had only one hand then you would not have time to bring the other hand up and you woul lose control of the car. The police pursuit drivers are the best trained in the world and they produce a book called Roadcraft which is based on their driving techniques and they say you should always have both hands on the steering wheel save for indicating, changing gear, operating switches etc. Your hand in this instance will be off the wheel momentarily. You actually admit that you withdrew from the car IAM due to disagreement on shuffling. These videos are very dangerous and, like cigarettes, should come with a health warning.
Terrible advice. Driving with two hands gives the most control of the car in all situations. Obviously on a low speed roundabout you need to shuffle wheel rather than maintain a fixed grip. Driving one-handed is okay in very low risk situations, such as cruising on a motorway, but certainly not in any situation where there is a chance you may need to suddenly swerve to avoid a crash. Driving one handed at 50Mph around corners on relatively narrow country roads is just stupid. Your point about it being always better to slam on the brakes than swerve so it doesn't matter is just pure cope.
Two hands on the steering wheel doesn’t give you the most control in all situations. It takes a lot longer to completely turn the steering wheel with two hands rather than one. If you need to avoid something, in most situations you’re going to need to break rather than swerve, there’s more than likely going to be other road users around, such as on the other side of the road, so swerving to avoid an accident or an object is hardly going to be the case, and even if it is, it doesn’t take any time at all to get your other hand back on the steering wheel. The driver’s instincts would have already kicked in to know they need both hands on the wheel. Driving at high speeds on narrow roads where corners aren’t sharp, driving one handed is probably better because you only need to give small inputs as Mick discussed in the video, and one handed makes that a lot easier and comfortable. Besides, when would you ever need to swerve to avoid an accident in narrow country roads? you’ll end up in the bushes
Anecdotally, it's much easier to make the small corrections needed to avoid imperfections like potholes or an oncoming car coming over your lane even on tight two lane roads. You only need a quick and small movement. A lot of new drivers, who two hand, might yank the wheel in panic. Doing so with two hands means you might be unsettle the car. It's my personal theory on why we have footage of people of people binning their cars after avoiding something that would've only needed a small correction
@@abdulwakil2613 One hand gives much less control over the steering, it is far too easy to accidentally put into much input. Imagine if you are driving one-handed at the 4 O'clock position, if you suddenly need to swerve right then the momentum of your hand will push the steering wheel beyond the intended input. When driving two-handed the other hand acts as a counter-balance so unintended inputs are far less likely. Yes, in most cases you are better off braking, but not all, driving with two hands gives the ability to do both. In some cases swerving is the only way to avoid a collision. Driving fast one handed on curving roads is a terrible idea, smaller inputs means they are less accurate, it takes a lot of minor corrections in the steering to keep the car on the intended course.
@@abdulwakil2613 It's much easier to take the second hand off the steering wheel while going on roundabout than having to put it on the steering wheel in sudden situation.
@@MegaMacStudios I think that the opposite of your theory is true. It's very easy to accidentally apply too much steering input when driving one-handed because the momentum of the hand is traveling quickly in one direction, whereas driving with both hands the resistance of the other hand acts as a counter-balance.
You should not be posting about driving and giving advice Mick because it is bad, poor and dangerous advice. You are a dangerous driver. Trying to swerve and recover from an obstacle with one hand is bound to fail. You are reckless just in creating these videos with your high level of personal distraction.
As a fellow bmw driver getting a bmw made me drive one handed almost all the time. The cockpit just feels set up to make you drive one handed
Can't wait to get a Beemer but my 23 I20 N-Line is so comfortably drive one handed. It doesn't really move very quick but shhhh
So you are telling that even with one hand free, BMW drivers still can't use the blinkers?
When I was a kid my Aunty could roll a cigarette left-handed while driving.
She was a superb pianist, so may have had exquisite control of her fingers, but she drove a Holden without power steering.
I think the danger is with power steering a small movement can put you into oncoming traffic while you check your phone - old steering was strongly self-centring.
@@DCTSheindolol what is indicators
@@DCTSheindo what’s a blinker?
Mick dropping facts once again.
Driving often boils down to situational awareness, doing what works at the right time.
Amen to that matey!
The very first time I was driving a car in traffic, my driving instructor noticed how tense and fearful I was navigating the fairly calm morning roads. When we got to a very clear-sighted gentle curving road, he said: "I want you to do something right now, when the road is the easiest. Put your right hand onto the gearstick and steer with one hand. Don't think, just do it." I did so and I was pretty amazed that one hand really is all you need for most normal operation of the wheel. My confidence slowly built up and by the time I drove us back to starting point, my fear and tension was much more manageable. So if nothing else, it is an excellent technique to calm down nervous new drivers, such as myself.
You have mastered the POV scenery, Sick video
Thank you sir!
Now do no hands.
...right into the ditch😂
@TheHitmanAgent no it unless thier is a bend
The car naturally wants to go unless thier bumps in the road . Turn into a junction let the wheel slide back through your hands the car naturally straightens
Full self driving mode activated.
Navigating to and driving off the nearest cliff.
lol
damn that pov looks good
So happy since moving to DJI for my videos.
I'm starting to get better with the colour grading too :)
@@MickDrivesCars beautiful
@@MickDrivesCarscan you do a vid of your camera setup?
@@MickDrivesCarsdji or else, I’d say pov got better cuz you went from a renault to a BMW. Congrats! 😄
What camera do you use mate? @@MickDrivesCars
This pov is with an admirable quality! Congratulations, even the speedo not flashing is amazing
" my name is mick, i drive cars" is a really cool outro ngl. Keep up the good work dude!
It happened by accident once and now it's just stuck :D
It's a good point, but I kind of disagree. Disclaimer: I drive with one hand on the wheel too, (not at 12 o'clock to be clear, but exactly the way you drive here), so I'm not saying what you're doing is wrong and what I'm doing is good. 99% of the time this will serve you well, and it's very comfortable, also allows you softer steering corrections at speed. But here is the catch about that 1% of the time that might change things for you. If you have a powerful car and you're driving spiritedly, I really don't recommend driving with one hand on the wheel (at 4/5 o'clock for example), because you may find something just came up in your path 25 meters ahead and you need to do an evasive maneuver to bypass it. An evasive maneuver usually involves 180 degrees steering wheel turn in one direction and then back quickly. You need two hands for that, in order no to lose control of the car when you do it. And usually you need to do it with your hands on 9 and 3 so that you have good grip of the steering wheel. Now here is the tricky part. *At that speed* in the time it takes you to move your relaxed hand to 3 o'clock and your left hand to 9 o'clock you just crossed that distance and spent the time you had available to correct the situation. By the time you have your hands on the wheel correctly, you probably just slammed into whatever you were trying to avoid on the road. So yeah, again, I am doing it too, but this 1% situation is always in the back of my mind.
well if you wait your whole life for a tyre to explode, then yes two hands would prove useful in such case
I suppose those who think you can drive with both hands on yhe wheel at all times are not familiar with manual gear boxes
Temporarily using a hand to change gear is completely different to continuously driving one-handed.
@@PointNemo9No it’s not. If temporarily using one hand is fine then permanently using one hand is also fine. If the driver feels the need to put both hands on the steering wheel then he/she will do so. No one’s sitting in the drivers seat to get themselves in trouble. If you’re comfortable and you feel in control then there’s no issue.
i find more important than the one-hand / two-hand distinguisher is to be that you should always aim to pull on the wheel rather than push (pretty sure i got that from one of your other videos mick!)
i find myself driving one-handed a lot, but the hand which i'm using changes depending on going left or right (left hand to go left, right hand to go right)
pulling is much better at providing finesse than pushing
to me, 9-3 is like "the lean", you know, the moment you get serious. For an easy drive one hand at 4-5 o'clock, and optionally the other at 7-8, works just fine. The entire 9-3 thing is like a speed limit in a sense. Just because it's 50, doesn't mean you should be doing 50 when the conditions just aren't right, and conversly; just becase it's 50, it doesn't mean that you will die immediately when driving 55. One thing tho - one hand at 12. I don't trust people who drive with one hand at 12 :D
One hand at 12 is not even that comfortable
@@nbahokage2582exactly i dont get it at all. After 5 minutes my shoulder hurts and i go to the gym
one hand on 12 when the other arm is resting on the center console is very comfortable...
Thanks to your advice I passed my test, massive thanks from the land down under!
Let's go!
(Be careful! ♥️)
only time I use two hands is at high speed, and on windy country lanes. I find if you are cruising on a motorway using two hands is more dangerous as you are tiring both your arms out, i always like to switch grip just to give one arm a rest, or even switch to a low grip. The power steering argument is bang on, you can drive anything with 1 finger let alone an arm XD
i generally put my hands behind my neck and steer with my knees
You will have your little joke 9858.
In the fifties and before car steering was manual and a bit hard, the steering wheel had to make several complete circles to go from stop to stop, and was larger in diameter, which often needed two hands. Now cars require very light and little inputs to the steering wheel so one handed is ok.
The 50s that was 70 years ago. All those driver !are dead
@@bradleysteeves7891but some of those cars are still around!
I just got used to having both hands on the steering wheel. Where I live there are a lot of cyclists (and pedestrians) and many either don’t have a driver’s license or just don’t care about motorists or other road users and you therefore have to be extremely cautious around them. That’s a situation I would honestly drive with both hands, especially in the winter where you can’t necessarily brake harshly due to ice on the roads.
I also drive a lot in the mountains spiritedly and there you basically have to use both hands.
My Dad taught me how to steer with one hand at first and it truly helped me
As owner of a driving school, I have a simple reason for wanting the hands on the wheel at all times. It has nothing to do with everday driving and everything to do with the "one time" that can and does happen to everyone at some point. When something unexpected occurs our reflexes kick in and subconsciously tell us we need both hands on the wheel to maneuver. You even did it in your video subconsciously. Every milisecond counts to avoid a collision so having boths hands on the wheel save you time you may not have.
I got used to onehand steering at some point and now i can never get back to to handed steering. I do still use both hands in some situations tho
Great video! Everything is about balance, even when it comes to driving and especially spirited driving
My inctructor prescribed the pull/push technique and I still use it to this day. Also I always rest my arm on the door and then steer like a cripple, with the left hand up at 9 o'clock and the other hand somewhere down at 4 o'clock (the other way around for me, because I drive a left-hand drive vehicle).
I only position my hands on the steering wheel like a normal person, when cornering fast and in roundabaouts, but then I use this strange pull/push technique again.
Was just about to write the same thing!!! I also drive a left-hand drive vehicle and just put my left hand on the door and keep the steering wheel with it at 9 o'clock and when I am cornering fast grab it with 2 hands or even just grab it with both hands when cornering right (don't know just I just feel more safe, more secure when cornering right with both hands than with only one), cornering left I do by just my left hand.
'Like a cripple'. 'Like a normal person'. Be careful what you post.
Resting your hand on the door frame is lazy and potentially dangerous. You never know when the split second will occur when you need full control of the car/wheel. Put that view to the IAM or Police pursuit drivers and they would give you a severe telling off.
Me with no powersteering in my daily
(I drive 1 handed when chillin and 2 handed when hitting the touge, use 1 hand at the top of the wheel to palm the wheel in parking lots)
You know, 2 seconds after I said that I knew there'd be someone in the comments!
I love the fact this is a real petrolhead community ♥️
@@MickDrivesCars thank you! I'm 17 in the USA and love driving, Ive done everything from 60s VW bettles, ponaic GTOs to 80s and 90s Japanese cars, and really modern stuff too. I love getting to opportunity to drive just about any car and will rarely turn down the chance. I think next on my list might be a GR 86 Wich I'm pretty hyped for
You should be comfortable to drive with one hand and two hands as being versatile can get you out of trouble especially in manual
I have a 2013 Toyota Yaris. Also incredibly quick steering. Sometimes I like to just have my fingers at the bottom of the wheel when making light movements.
I'm gonna say... Idk if it's because you carefully select them for the video or what, but the roads you're driving on - seem PHENOMAL.
Just my kind of roads - twisty and bendy, engaging, only one lane per direction, usually not much traffic... just lovely.
I literally moved from London to Shropshire EXCLUSIVELY for the roads 😂
u need your hand on top of the wheel vin diesel mode, angy look and other hand on the shifter at all times even on an empty motorway. notice how every tailgater looks like this in your mirror
Fun fact: F80s had a different rack than the “normal” 3 and 4 series. One was ZF, the other Presta/ThyssenKrupp I think.
The normal racks were appalling, luckily the F87 M2 got the better rack off the M4. But if you back-to-back the N55 with the CS, it’s crazy what a difference software can have on the steering behaviour.
Don’t know how it is on the G chassis
Couldn't find anything online after filming this video actually
But M3/4 steering software works on the M2 so I think the rack is the same
beginner driver with a rwd car here, i suggest you should make aa video for us
Oh it's coming :)
@@MickDrivesCars Thanks a lot!!!❤❤❤
Check my latest video ♥️
To me it’s mostly speed based, above around 50-60 km/hr my second hand will naturally go to the wheel for added control. Just like yours went on the corner, it’s not something you’re actively thinking about.
That hud flashing all the time would do my head in
i'm pretty sure it might just be the camera
God-hand approves 👍
although if you still facing "sudden" situations then you not ready and better keep both hands on the wheel
I dont know how big my ego is cuz of these vids but it probs not very helthy lol. Love just watching mick spit facts which happrns to be whay i do😂
5:45 my fiancée's prius is a glorious 3.7 turns lock-to-lock. It has an insanely good turning circle though.
I have to disagree somewhat. Pulling down on the steering wheel feels much more smooth and precise. That's why you have 2 hands so you can always pull down with one hand or the other.
Driving one-handed, say you're taking a left turn, you have to pull up, and then across, and in tighter turns, down again across your body. Again, all these movement, and especially the transitions between them feel much more unstable and jerky than basically just pulling down.
That being said, I drive one-handed a lot, especially at lower speeds in the town with super slow sharp corners where you have to go very slow anyway because you have to look out dor pedestrians etc. Even open palm steering. Also driving with one hand changes my whole driving strategy around it - I drive much more conservatively, leaving loads more space for reaction time, anticipating the road and the other drivers' actions etc.
Great vid as always 👏
Great video. The constant HUD flickering is a bit annoying.
Thank you Mick for your driving of cars
Any time!
I am driving a Ford Focus 2016 in sunny South Texas , and have observed that driving one-handed places too much strain on my hand/wrists. I have working electronic steering (it uses an electric motor, it is not hydraulic), but the steering is a bit firm, you wouldn't be able to turn it around with one finger. So, I am mostly doing two hands in the 2 o clock and 10 o clock position for driving straight with minor corrections. 3 to 9 is good for curvy roads, but I find that 2 and 10 is less straining for very long drives on straight roads. One hand for sharm turns on roundabouts or intersections, is a no brainer. I don't see an issue driving one handed if one has a steering wheel that is less firm and easy to turn around with minimal force. Which brings me to the mainpoint: maybe the BMW is a better car? 🙄😂🚗 and the steering is more comfortable?
lol so many people hating without watching his full video. He says to use 1 hand vs. 2 hands in different situations… congratulations, yall just fell for his rage bait for engagement
Its short one hand gives you more freedom ✅
You are far more precise with both hands.
do you race in f1 or rally? No? Then it doesnt matter
@@underscore_tip The other day suddenly a lorry went of the midle of the road to my side and I had to make a quick correction. I'm glad I used both hands. When all is fine, one would be sufficient though. But with two hands you have better and finer control.
@KLiNoTweet that's exactly the reason you should MOST of the time have both nads on the steering wheel.
So informative! Thank you so much!
Enjoying your vids atm, with my G87 on the way! I’d appreciate a walk around and a detailed video on the infotainment and settings to switch off etc if possible, thanks!
I'm working on a big ''hyper-in-depth review'' at the moment, shaping up to be 30+ mins!
@@MickDrivesCars Looking forward to it!
What about 1 hand on highway at max speed?
And what if then suddenly you will lost one tire?
1 hand proves you dont need to grip the wheel to death . Its using the right methed for the situation
German driving instructors always want you to use both hands on the wheel all the time on 2 and 10 o clock. I always felt it to be very clumsy, it just didn't felt right. When i feel like i need both hands i use 3 and 9 o clock. But most of the time my left hand is on 9 or 8 o clock and my right hand is always ready to change gears.
From my observation people who constantly put both hands on the wheel are the ones who drive very unsettled.
Nice in Bridgnorth.
Learner driver: Advanced School of Motoring videos.
Got my licence and video suggestions changed to Mick Drives Cars.. UA-cam was like "now you need to LEARN to drive" 😂
Haha let's go!
(Be careful! ♥️)
Learning to look further up the road and little tricks to gain information be it things like road positioning
Another great vid and love the POV style Mick! I know you’ll probably do it in a separate video but what’re your thoughts on the M2 so far? I know you said you don’t like the fact climate control is hidden behind menus, but apart from that, are they any other bug bears? I am looking to get one soon but (as with most M cars), I’ve heard fuel economy is awful lol. Do you get through quite a few tanks each week?
Thanks again mate 👍
Thanks mate!
I'm loving it! It's so much car! Coming back to manual has been a bit of a learning curve after not driving one for about 2 years but I'm almost ready to making some manual-focused videos. The car itself is just stupid honestly... so much power. So much brakes. Probably a little too fast for the road, but you can do slidey stuff so it's fun even at low speeds, especially in the wet. I did have to order a taxi after a garden chair I bought wouldn't fit in the boot because the opening was too small. 26mpg since I got the car which is comparable to the Megane's ~28-30... not terrible. I did drain a whole tank in 120 miles having a lot of fun the weekend after I got it.
Overall I'm enjoying it a ton, still lots more room for growth in my abilities with it but largely very, very happy. I don't like how much attention it gets :/ feels sketchy parking it anywhere that isn't private so I do think twice about some trips, which I didn't do in the Megane.
@@MickDrivesCars This is so so helpful, thank you for answering this honestly mate. You have made a huge upgrade, and there are always bound to be one or two things, but overall it is a driver's car through and through so I imagine it suits you to the core!
I was worried about parking too - I literally haven't seen a single new M2 in the UK. I see lots of G80s but not this, so it's definitely got that novelty factor right now.
Hopefully we can go for a drive one day, double M2s, double trouble haha
Nah i had car with no power steering it never tried to rip the steeringwheel out of my hands or simular, in fact, other than when parking, it is exactly same the like driving with power steering
Maybe for motorway and wide streets its ok, but on b roads and tight streets i think its better to have both hands on the wheel just in case you need yo evade something like an animal, a child or an idiot swinging his door open without looking or getting half his car on your lane in a tight corner.
I have hit one too many roe deer to do otherwise.
I also think some people tend to get too relaxed when driving one handed and end up being sloppy or distracted but we all know those people will drive badly anyway even with two hands haha
In the end the most important thing is to be focused and to be confortable
2 hands good, 1 hand, better.
Yeah man...old school instructors
Mick, Im sorry but thats terrible advice. Especially as most of your audience is very young and impressionable.
What driving courses / driving qualifications do you have? This is really important to state.
My audience is mainly 25-34 lol
I'm an advanced motorbike rider. I gave up on the advanced driving course when they said I'd fail if I didn't shuffle the wheel.
@MickDrivesCars well... I love most of your videos. The content is good... but sometimes you're wrong, and this is one of those times.
That age range is still very young.
Just for perspective, I'm a former police officer and had the huge benefit and advantage of going through many, very good, fast road driving courses.
You get a lot of things right... I particularly enjoyed your video where you spoke of the vanishing point (you called it something else) as you approached corners.
You're wrong in this video unfortunately. I think it would be highly beneficial to do some road driving courses with HPC / Jonathan Palmer etc and then relay that back to your viewers.
It might even be a good video to publish.
You're missing some tricks that would really enhance your channel.
I particularly like your new M2 by the way.
@@alivekicking6247 Well, it's nice to hear from someone who knows what they are talking about. One hand on the wheel? apart from the obvious times you need to indicate / turn wipers on etc, Crazy. Watch the in car cameras during a formula one race, no onehanded there.
love it i totally agree with you
Uk looks beautiful when the sun is out
We're so fortunate the 12 days a year it's actually nice
Hello, sir! What camera do you use?
DJI Action 4
@@MickDrivesCars TY! It's with built in mic, right? It sounds good!
It does have a built in mic, but the audio in this video is via a DJI MIC 2
@@MickDrivesCars understood! How did you mount the camera for pov?
Yet, BMW drivers are still not able to use that free hand to indicate when turning :D
Very good
What camera do you use for filming?
DJI Action 4
Thank you!! Love your videos btw
My dad who uses his knee:
Where is your Renault ?
Sold :(
@@MickDrivesCars i was liking that car,it was different but I bet the bmw it's more fun
Real drivers drive with their knees
That comment caps it all.
@@terryable-hh4ck knee caps it all
This advice is downright dangerous and you are influencing a young generation of drivers with some very poor habits. Although you may feel that you are in control of the car and able to make slight corrections, you never know when an incident will suddenly unfold like black ice, a car cutting across you, a lorry on the mootorway sweving due to a burst tire. All these incidents can happen very quickly and you need both hands on the wheel to keep control of the car. If you had only one hand then you would not have time to bring the other hand up and you woul lose control of the car. The police pursuit drivers are the best trained in the world and they produce a book called Roadcraft which is based on their driving techniques and they say you should always have both hands on the steering wheel save for indicating, changing gear, operating switches etc. Your hand in this instance will be off the wheel momentarily.
You actually admit that you withdrew from the car IAM due to disagreement on shuffling. These videos are very dangerous and, like cigarettes, should come with a health warning.
Bmw driver telling others to drive with one hand...... Figures
This account deserves to grow to 100k subscribers in very short time.
Thank you! We're definitely on track
I like 2 hands 🥺
Fair. I do too
Preach
Yessir
Terrible advice. Driving with two hands gives the most control of the car in all situations. Obviously on a low speed roundabout you need to shuffle wheel rather than maintain a fixed grip.
Driving one-handed is okay in very low risk situations, such as cruising on a motorway, but certainly not in any situation where there is a chance you may need to suddenly swerve to avoid a crash. Driving one handed at 50Mph around corners on relatively narrow country roads is just stupid.
Your point about it being always better to slam on the brakes than swerve so it doesn't matter is just pure cope.
Two hands on the steering wheel doesn’t give you the most control in all situations. It takes a lot longer to completely turn the steering wheel with two hands rather than one.
If you need to avoid something, in most situations you’re going to need to break rather than swerve, there’s more than likely going to be other road users around, such as on the other side of the road, so swerving to avoid an accident or an object is hardly going to be the case, and even if it is, it doesn’t take any time at all to get your other hand back on the steering wheel. The driver’s instincts would have already kicked in to know they need both hands on the wheel.
Driving at high speeds on narrow roads where corners aren’t sharp, driving one handed is probably better because you only need to give small inputs as Mick discussed in the video, and one handed makes that a lot easier and comfortable. Besides, when would you ever need to swerve to avoid an accident in narrow country roads? you’ll end up in the bushes
Anecdotally, it's much easier to make the small corrections needed to avoid imperfections like potholes or an oncoming car coming over your lane even on tight two lane roads. You only need a quick and small movement. A lot of new drivers, who two hand, might yank the wheel in panic. Doing so with two hands means you might be unsettle the car.
It's my personal theory on why we have footage of people of people binning their cars after avoiding something that would've only needed a small correction
@@abdulwakil2613 One hand gives much less control over the steering, it is far too easy to accidentally put into much input. Imagine if you are driving one-handed at the 4 O'clock position, if you suddenly need to swerve right then the momentum of your hand will push the steering wheel beyond the intended input. When driving two-handed the other hand acts as a counter-balance so unintended inputs are far less likely.
Yes, in most cases you are better off braking, but not all, driving with two hands gives the ability to do both. In some cases swerving is the only way to avoid a collision.
Driving fast one handed on curving roads is a terrible idea, smaller inputs means they are less accurate, it takes a lot of minor corrections in the steering to keep the car on the intended course.
@@abdulwakil2613 It's much easier to take the second hand off the steering wheel while going on roundabout than having to put it on the steering wheel in sudden situation.
@@MegaMacStudios I think that the opposite of your theory is true. It's very easy to accidentally apply too much steering input when driving one-handed because the momentum of the hand is traveling quickly in one direction, whereas driving with both hands the resistance of the other hand acts as a counter-balance.
You should not be posting about driving and giving advice Mick because it is bad, poor and dangerous advice. You are a dangerous driver.
Trying to swerve and recover from an obstacle with one hand is bound to fail.
You are reckless just in creating these videos with your high level of personal distraction.