Can Autistic People Be Narcissistic?
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
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Hi I'm glad you made this video. I don't really like Dr Ramani, my opinion is she has the wrong idea about autism and narcissism. But yes Dana's video was pretty relatable, as well as this video. My dad probably has autism and maybe OCD, he was not abusive and was not narcissistic, but he was generally a neglectful dad who was emotionally repressed. He had a lot of anger issues, who had super high expectations of me. He was super uptight, rigid, controlling and perfectionistic, which was really detrimental to my growth.
Anyway thank you for this video! 😊
I'm sorry for what you have been through.
I was always put down by my mother. She used to say are you thick or stupid when I needed time to think of an answer. She would even mock me when I stammered. I felt worthless.
I’m sorry 😢
I am actually pondering aboutvthis idea for a while now because I notice some narcissistic traits in myself as well. I don’t have NPD, I think, but I do have some traits of narcissism in my yourger years. I was raised as somewhat the golden child (I say somewhat because I was also emotionally neglected and parentified) in a very narcissistic society.
So I think I basically taken on a narcissistic persona because that’s what I saw in my environment-I basically took on a narcissistic mask. Although my motivation wasn’t to feel better than everyone but to be like everyone.
I will have to ponder some more about this and see where I end up.
Thanks again for bringing this subject up.
Thank you for being so candid and honest.
Your comment is helping me with my self exploration journey.
I am so glad that this video was uploaded.
This needed to be said.
I have learned that everything has some nuance, so I keep an open mind when taking things like this in.
There are so many nuances to human beings that trying to put everything into a neat little box can make things easier to process, but the reality is that nothing human fits into a neat little box.
One could have their intentions misunderstood, there is perspective taking (connected with cognitive empathy), there is also distorted perception, which creates ones own reality of one and many situations.
Personality disorders come from a specific brand of trauma. Autistic people are OFTEN traumatized. You’re born with autism. Anyone, autistic or not, can acquire a personality disorder under the wrong circumstances. I’m not sure why people don’t see how they can cross over. I suppose because it doesn’t fit the autistic stereotype.
A lot of people say you can’t have BPD and NPD, but they’re comorbid all the time. Many people do not understand narcissism like they think they do.
Well said 👍
I left my marriage because my ex wife would have violent outbursts where she would break things and threaten me and I became convinced that she would follow through on those threats. After I realised that I'm autistic, I told her and she said that she's also autistic and I should apologise for referring to her meltdowns as abusive behaviour. I have mixed feelings about this. She told me that I triggered her outbursts, and was cruel to me outside of her meltdowns. I understand that we can't control what we do during a meltdown, but she had control over everything else.
thanks for this video! i feel very seen! my father is probably narcisstic too and because i am newly (self)diagnosed with autism i always doubted if i am autistic because i thought no one else in my family could posibly be autistic too so from whi should i have gotten it? but it makes so much sense that my father might be both!! (sorry if my english isn't that good)
My father was more than likely autistic, and he was abusive and narcissistic. Being autistic does NOT make a person immune to being a narcissist.
i’m also autistic but i can recognize that it does not make us immune to being nasty to others.
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My mom has mellowed out but she was very mean when I was a child. She is not diagnosed with autism but her mind works very similar to mine and I have been diagnosed. Autistic people are often mistreated and some turn around and mistreat other people. My mom is 77. Most autistic people her age are undiagnosed.
I don't think that my mother was a narcissist but she has some narcissistic traits.
@@Catlily5Thank you for adding that.
Alot of people don't think about stuff like that.
Sorry if you’ve explained it, but couldn’t a large part of his behavior be due to not accepting himself as autistic and thus he’s blind to issues he may have otherwise been able to curb? I’d also suggest a lifetime of not knowing can probably create some pretty toxic coping. I say this because I also have a father who I think I inherited this from who is similar to how you describe your father
There’s definitely some of that, which would explain his anxiety etc, but it doesn’t explain everything 🤷🏻♀️ at the end of the day being undiagnosed autistic doesn’t excuse being a terrible parent, and that’s definitely what he is. Being autistic has nothing to do with hurting your kid physically and emotionally and then saying ‘you deserved it’ when asked to take accountability for his actions later on. It also doesn’t excuse his feelings of superiority and treating my mother like less than a human, expecting her to do everything for him and then calling her ‘fat cow’ 😅 my mother-in-law is 60 and probably autistic (undiagnosed), that didn’t make her a bad parent and a terrible person…
@@paunesjourney yeah I agree with you, it’s not inherent, being one way or another. I guess I just imagine everyone copes differently with not knowing, and with my dad I think he carries such a strong mask or notion of who he needs to be, it necessarily steps on his empathy, heart, and ability to see others. In other words he curbs all his own issues in such a mental prison that he remains separated in his heart towards much of humanity, often just very unnecessarily cruel ways.
But yeah I hear you, your point still stands, nothing about autism itself means you’re a friendly, nice, or a huge jerk. I’d still suggest more awareness *may* help
I think that some people respond to abuse by abusing others. Whether they are autistic or not.
I suspect that both of my parents are autistic although they are both in their 70's and probably will never be diagnosed. They were both abusive.
No two autistic people are exactly the same. We aren't perfect although someone who meets me for example may think of me as an angel, that im very honest to a fault. But thats from only what ive allowed them to see of me potentially. Who goes out and tells people "hey i commited this terrible act once in my life". I suffered as a kid at the hands of my Father, and we still talk to him but me and my brothers don't respect him in the way he thinks we should. Anyone meeting him today think that he is a great person. I dont know if my Father is autistic, and i dont want to tell him im autistic because when he finds out its genetic and may run in the family it could become complicated.