Skyrim: 5 Spooky Theories Crazy Enough to be True - The Elder Scrolls 5 Lore (Part 7)
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- Skyrim is a game with a rich amount of lore, taking place in the already well established universe of The Elder Scrolls. Indeed, in a world this big, Skyrim’s surely going to host a number of fascinating mysterious and unexplained pehenomon. Thankfully, Skyrim’s community has been working nonstop to produce innumerable fan theories to provide answers to some of the game’s greatest questions. So today, we’ll be taking a look at a few more as we dive into our seventh installment of five spooky theories crazy enough to be true in The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim.
- Ігри
Paarthunax is now forever going to be known as "Party Snax"
I always just call him Mario.
p a a r t h u n a x i s l o o k i n g
l i k e a s n a c c
I remember the origin of this meme
deja vu
Paarthunax has entered the chat
Nazeem definitely called the dark brotherhood on us.
He wanted to prevent us from ever reaching the cloud district!!
Roland Deschain but there’s no cloud district in Gilead?
😂🤣
At least I can buy a house and not sleep at inn after helping the Yarl with like 2 things...lazy ass nazeem
060steve you thought it was Nazeem...
But it was I, DIO!!!
@@luvisgone48 3 acts of service to each hold to become thane (even if no one likes what you do, like a side with Madanach in Markarth. 😀)
What if Nate is secretly just Hermaeus Mora? It would explain him knowing so much. Better yet, Nate is secretly Todd Howard.
I'm just gonna say that I've never seen Hermaeus Mora, Todd Howard, and Nate in a room at the same time and leave it at that.
It just works...
Nate = Todd Howard = Hermaeus Mora it just works and he is still not giving us all his knowlage like we know from him (Hermaeus) ;) I suspect also that there wasn't a deadralogist it was Nate = Hermaeus all along that would also explain why the other deadra give away so much information cause he himself is a deadra and those books about deadra were eighter written by himself or the autors made a packt with him for that information. Something like that justs would fit Hermaeu's behaviour very well.
Nate is hurmaeus mora cause when he killed that old man when he vanished he whispered "murdered to death"
Todd Howard - "It just works."
Nate - "It's just big."
Hermaeus Mora - "Wanna buy a used dagger, cheap?"
The last one made me think of a joint custody situation where each deity gets the dragonborn's soul for a set amount of time on a schedule
HAHAHAHA
Somewhere in the multiverse, John Constantine is sweating that someone figured out a solution to his own ploy.
But who pays child support?
Nah akatosh already called dips before them
That's how it works for them i guess
Aw they got a divorce?
"Nowhere in the soul cairn is there a single dragon soul."
Durnehviir- "Am I a joke to you?"
You don't take his soul when you defeat him. His soul already belongs to the Ideal Masters
@@nieveangeletti1271 So it belongs to the Ideal Masters which goes against the theory that Akatosh has "Dominance/Dibs" on dragon souls.
Durnehviir isn't dead though. That was part of his whole deal with the IMs.
Durnerviir as all Dovah are immortal and that Natrual Dragonborn (A Humanoid born with a Dragon Soul) have vastly extended lifetimes that The Ideal Masters Keep Him there even upon Defeat he is just teleported away. He never actually dies. If he dies it's more likely His soul would goto Akatosh since it seems they want Durnerviir to stay alive permanently being he is immortal and to eventually take what's left of Durnerviir and fully link it to them. But it doesn't seem other than that Dunerviir's body is linked to the plane but not his soul. So the theory that Dragon Souls goto Akatosh holds alot of ground. Since you can summon him with his name which is a call to a Dovah's Soul which why they will almost always answer the call but still have a choice to not answer.
I am pretty sure he is actually immortal, not like a normal dragon, but really immortal like a vampire, and he is not actually dead, but... undead.
Theory: The reason people hate it when ya attack the chicken is because the chicken is Skyrim’s National Bird.
And the cheese doesn't mold... SKYRIM IS FRANCE IN DISGUISE
Dragons are descendent from Chickens so...makes sense
I know this is probably a joke, but theres an actual, completely logical reason for this. Chickens produce egg's, and the people who own them usually live on farms, so the chickes are likely a part of there livelyhood. You kill that chicken, someone's going to bed hungry.
@@RimeyCH no eggs, no sweetrolls.
Like killing Emus down here in Australia.
The Dragonborn comes *from* Cyrodiil. So the Dark Brotherhood theory is just wrong.
Evidence for this:
- They don't know anything about the political situation in Skyrim
- After Legate Fasendil at the Rift Imperial Camp says that he was recently sent to Skyrim from Cyrodiil, the Dragonborn can ask
"How are things *back home* ?"
- If you choose to be a Nord, Hadvar says "You picked a bad time to *come home* kinsman."
- I believe Hadvar explicitly mentions either in the cave or right outside that you were captured at the border trying to come *to* Skyrim *from* Cyrodiil.
Yea the game is pretty explicit about how you were trying to cross the border into Skyrim. Not out from it.
No, that's just not how it works.
There will never be a confirmed gender/race/birth place for a player character, that's just Bethesda's principal thing. The only time they mentioned player's character was in the DB DLC, where the character was mentioned as "he", but that was a mistake as Bethesda later confirmed.
Lmao Zedonk
Strawman. You can be coming into Skyrim from Cyrodiil and not be *from* Cyrodiil, just like I as an American can fly from Greenland to the U.K. and still not be *from* Greenland.
@@lmaozedonk6457 lore wise there is specified race, gender and even name for PC in elder scrolls games.
It just isn't something hard set, so you can actually have some customization.
Same way lore wise you never actually joined any factions, such as dark brotherhood or college or winterhold. Yeah there is a person that proceeds as new head of the colleee, but is isn't dragonborn, and person that killed emperor is not the same one that killed Alduin.
@@greatiusiterfector4519 im pretty sure lorewise its always left vague if you were, you can be, but you might not, sheogorath is the hero of kvatch, and makes references to a bunch of there side quests, which could be because he did them all, or could be because hes insane , in fact its probably canonically both, since dragon breaks are a thing
The dragon that killed those in the cabin was Mirmulnir, the first dragon encounter you have in the Western Watchtower outside Whiterun. In the book"Atlas of Dragons" found in the Sky Heaven Temple you can read that Mirmulnir was one of the very few dragons that were not killed by the blades, he's also a fire breath dragon. He has been living in skyrim in hiding probably in the Ancient's ascent for a long time when he sensed the return of Alduin, that's the reason he's the first to attack you, unlucky for him he fights the only one who can kill him, you, and dies with surprise realizing you can absorb his soul.
That was my guess, I was sitting there like "It could be mirmulnir" and "or it's mirmulnir
"we don't even have maps of Akavir"
*shows map of akavir*
Yup it's fan drawn maps, he mentions this in the vid dedicated to just the uriel theory.
No canonical maps
Ikr.
@Lucas Davis still funny tho
to be fair, it’s a fan map, but still it’s funny lmao
Regarding the first theory, the implication is that the player character doesn't understand the politics and customs of Skyrim, hence why they have to be taught simple things like how to propose marriage. I think it's safe to say that the game was written as if they were crossing into Skyrim and not out of it.
that makes so much sense now cus why would someone who lives in skyrim know nothing about its customs
Either that or when they awake they have amnesia, but tgen again if they ad amnesia and were crossing out then surely because they meet everyone in skyrim atleast someone would recognise them...
I agree because sometimes when you are asked about your family one option is you can say they live far away
That’s a good point
True. Also ironically makes it weird that the Dragonborn is canonicaly a Nord. Even if they were born and raised outside of Skyrim, one would expect they know at least something about Nordic traditions and culture, given how proud of a people the Nord are. Unless you say they grew up in an orphanage since infancy, with no contact to other members of their race, ever. And that is an oddly specific backstory....
“Before you’ve actually had a chance to play the game and anger someone”
My friend, you vastly underestimate how much I annoy people
Hahahaha xD my thoughts exactly
If you play as Khajiit, you're gonna annoy pretty much everyone except Ysolde and the rest of the Khajiit.
@@jerry-hy9ok I anger a lot of people as a Khajiit because I kill almost every non-essential npc
Perhaps you kicked a chicken trying to escape Helgen
Your existence annoy people?
the dark brotherhood random events imply that when astrid tells you that someone in the abandoned shack has a contract on them she's refering to you which would also explain why it doesn't matter which person you kill
Nah if you use clairvoyance it points to the mean ass bitch
That’s a really great theory.
this is honesty probably a fact, since we know that it doesn’t matter who you kill.
great theory but clairvoyance (spell) always points to the Kajit
@@loppydoodle726 i thought this was confirmed by her though, cant it be both?
Fun fact: In Sovengarde, you can see the level up classes. You can see the green theif, the red warrior, and the blue mage in the sky. its pretty cool
Where does the Dragonborn go when he dies? back to his last save point.
Here's my question man, what happens to the dragonborn if he's or she's a werewolf and a Nightingale would half of his or her soul go to hircine and the other half go's to nocturnal?
Then you have to account for the fact that the dragonborn is also the champion of Boethiah, Molag Bol, Mephala, Mehrunes Dagon, Meridia, Azura, Hermaeus Mora, etc. What then?
@@GiratinaTech the dragonborn's soul is spilt to pieces
@@Catcreeper_69 that's some pretty damn small pieces then lol
@@GiratinaTech I wonder which one would get the biggest piece of the dragonborn's soul
The issue with the first theory is that the Dragonborn was crossing the border INTO Skyrim. At first meeting, if you choose the nord race, Hadvar says it’s a bad time to come home. Later when you ask about the civil war he says that people in cyrodil must have other things to deal with. My theory is that the Dragonborn is a thief and was trying to cross the border to escape consequence. They’re in rags, which implies that they have no money, and they pick up on lockpicking and pickpocketing really easily, they’re some of the easiest skills to level up in.
I always role playing as a Nord from Bruma/surrounding area. Either an orphan of the Great War, son of some stable owners who died, maybe a descendant of the champion of Cyrodiil. I go back and forth with those back stories haha
I have a dumb theory that the dovakin was running from Alduin he found out about you being the Dragonborn and started hunting you I mean isn’t it just a bit too coincidental that he just happened to attack whare you were maybe he was trying to kill you and wanted the victory to himself
This is a dumb theory but what if the Dragonborn lived in solthstime and was trying to get away for the assassins their don’t know their names and the assassins at solestime contacted the dark brother hood to kill the Dragonborn dispite their little rivalry this theory also kinda explains that the dragon born was birthed where the first dragon born was
@@Danonlygaming I just started a new game and it’s implied by the imperial and his uncle that you’re from cyrodiil, at least that’s where you were coming from when you were captured. But he could originally be from solthsteim!
@@xxgarrisonxx4397 that makes a lot of sense
"A ha ha ha...you killed them marvelously."
"I like watching things die." - Crimson Nirnroot.
"Murder time"
Bahahaha
Lol
Waaaaaait ... take me with you
"Okay, this is getting weird. You're a plant, I'm gonna go."
#1: Nate has opened an elder scroll so many times he didn't lose his sight, but gained the knowledge of everything and other dimensions
Kyle Steele he gained so much knowledge that losing his sight didn’t matter
Yep, this would make sense.
He has gained so much knowledge that he knows where everyone and everything is at all times even though he is blind
He gained so much knowledge he figured out a way to regain his sight
The Elder Scroll tried to take his sight.
He took the Elder Scroll’s sight instead.
You don't revert to a previous save when you die, Akatosh sends you back in time to prevent war for your soul :P
Mind blown
you have earned my sweet roll!!
But what about the other dragonborn they are in sovngarde
Y'all motherfuckers need TALOS!
When the Dragonborn dies, his soul is definitely going to Oblivion.
To his own plane of Oblivion, which he'll design into whatever kind of corner of eternity he wants to live in, because seriously? He eats dragon souls. He killed Alduin, the four-in-one horseman of the apocalypse. Ain't nobody tellin' him where to go when he's dead. He'll go wherever he damned well pleases.
Here's a spooky theory
any npc walking around with black robes and a black hood with lighting destruction magic is a desendant of palpatine.
Sunquad and they have an unlimited power potion
I told my dad this. He laughed.
I have a modded save where I roleplay as Palpatine... It's so fucking awesome
A long time ago in a crypt far far away
@@liammckay5923 Hehe
One of my favorite little mysteries is Babette. In The Interview With the Vampire books, there is a young girl (about Babette’s age and size) who is turned into a vampire. While her name is Claudia, there is a character that the narrator of the book has a meaningful encounter with named Babette. I love to think someone at Bethesda was a fan of the novels too.
I have the spooky crazy theory that Ulfric wears fake eyebrows because his real ones are very thin and he is timorous about it
Wecoc1 I believe it. The man has an ego, gotta maintain the looks yo
Well, where do you think those eyebrows came from? I have few theories.
Its actually to make sure the N.O. portal doesn't open.
Skyrim is bad enough without giant robots running around.
Maybe the reason why he wears such thick fur clothing is to make up for the lost facial warmth that has resulted from his thin eyebrows.
@Wecoc1 I have questions
I actually had an assassin attack me and Ralof as soon as I walked out the cave entrance. In one game back on ps3
Cant say iveever had it happen that quickly
I cant blame you for running.
hitman hit Damn, I bet that encounter is a LOT more difficult when you’re fresh outta’ Helgen. Where did it spawn? Literally right outside the cave? I didn’t know that was a random encounter location.
Robert Smalls It’s not, but there's multiple on the mountain, and a few in the plains/forest nearby
pug dog thing man woman, yes I took a cut through the forest headed to fuck up the mines if I remember right and the guy jumped me. Was some shit but as I stood there with an iron shield ralof clapped the guy
Imagine meeting Miraak in Akatosh’s plane of Oblivion if the theory was actually true...
“Oh, uhh...hey, dude. How’s the afterlife been?...” 😂
That gonna be so awkward
“Hey bro wassup! How’ve you been since I got your landlord to kick you out? I know moving back in with dad is embarrassing but uh, trust me you’re better off at home than your old place!”
It seems hermaeus mora would have a word with that
Akatosh is not a daedric prince, so therefore doesn't have a plane of Oblivion!!!
This except in the dovah language, would sound weird in the awkward tone though.
Id imagine Akatosh's realm would be a very mountainous area, since party snax says that dragons love mountains
Also, id say that since the dovahkiin has the soul of a dragon, when their mortal body dies, their soul will take on a dragon form in akatosh's realm
He'll be so popular there
Imagine all the dragon souls there seeing their killer there
@@madisonsosa21
Well, its sort of implied that when you spend a dragon soul on a shout, the soul ceases to exist.
So the dragons wouldn't be able to see him there unless he just had an excess of souls
@@EvelynnWinters2000 I mean, if the Dragonborn was in some sense a soul gem and uses dragon souls to unlock words of power, they wouldn't cease to be. They would have to go back to Akatosh. A soul doesn't cease from existence, unless u Zero Some like Septimus Signus, who I would guess actually cease to be thanks to some Fudgemuppet videos about that concept
@@madisonsosa21
Well, they don't necessarily go back to akatosh. Sort of like with soul gems, how souls go to the soul cairn, there may be another place for dragon souls after the dragonborn uses them.
Or, their souls may fuse with the dragonborn's soul and become one soul (so technically not ceasing to be, but still reducing the number of souls)
Alduin wasn’t resurrected, he was never killed, only sent forward in time
I always imagine people going about their day and suddenly BAM Alduin appears.
Will it go that way in reality? Most likely not. But is it hilarious to imagine? Hell yes.
ElvinGearMaster Irma actually there is a journal near Helgen where they say one day Alduin literally just appeared, and they were worried whole month before the attack on helgen so that’s actually exactly what happened haha
@@kevinlestrange3599 Damn. I feel so bad for the other people in the future. :'3
Or or, they were prepared for it? I mean, the game suggests dragons arent going anywhere even with Alduin dead. So dragons are back now.
They would be prepared, kinda.
ElvinGearMaster Irma it’s always been a weird subject because dragons supposedly have always existed in akavir, and since parthurnaax is alive, and all the other dragons were resurrected then technically speaking they never finished the job to begin with
@@kevinlestrange3599 Its mostly Alduin thats the main issue here though. Since he wants to nom all the souls in Sovengarde and the other dragons just kinda follow suit. I wonder if they mostly went back to Akavir or?
Ah well. We'll maybe see. Maybe, since Bethesda is milking the Fallout cash cow for all its worth rn.
M'aiq has never thought of Skyrim as creepy, more gullible, the people are so easy to control!
Does this Khajit has wares?
Do you guys got penises?
That's deep
@@thatsdeep3044 they do, and they are barbed. That's in-game canon. It was in an in-game book about Barenziah. I think it was in either Daggerfall or Morrowind. It's been mentioned in various youtube lore videos.
@@groovemedium i dont like the second part of the first sentence
Tsun in Sovngarde claims that he has fought other dragonborns for entry into the great hall. That implies that it dragonborn’s soul does not necessarily have to go to Akatosh
Maybe the dragonbron gets to choose which afterlife to go to
Which Dragonborn made it to Sovngarde in the end?
1:36 - This theory is sort of shut down in the opening moments of the game. No matter what race you play, Hadvar asks you in one fashion or another what brought you to Skyrim. If you play a Nord, he says you picked a bad time to come home.
Hadvar is part of the Imperial force that captured everyone. He would know which direction they were all coming from.
If you had been LEAVING, he would have remarked as such, but instead comments on you being in-bound.
I think when the Dragonborn dies, all the gods and daedric princes are gonna do a battle royal over their soul.
Personally, good ole sheo gonna get it
Tes 6
@@argelion2793 what about tes 6
@@Catcreeper_69 it was a joke about how the plot to tes 6 could be going through the different planes of oblivion to help the dragonborn reach sovnguarde (or whatever plane he/she wants to go to) by getting rid of their pacts with the daedra
@@argelion2793I have a question about the dragonborn what happens to his's or her's soul when he died as a werewolf or a vampire, a Nightingale and a servent of herma mora, where will the dragonborn's soul go to
Making a spectral dragon be like:
Opacity 50%
Blue tint 30%
Pretty sure they did not want dragons
What about the other 20%
@@why8298 Dragon
Maybe whoever left the book "A Kiss, Sweet Mother" at Riften's Temple of Mara was the one who sent the Dark Brotherhood after the player before the beginning of Skyrim
Perhaps a spouse you left at the altar?
Spicy.
Prob just a developer who looked for books to put into the temple of love and went trough all the books and found one named ”a kiss” and tought ”yea, that must be related to love!”
I love the openness of the beginning mystery of how you got caught. I play a ton of different characters, and it allows me to make up an elaborate, convincing backstory from that cart ride alone.
My favorite is my main account. She's unique from the rest of my characters by being the only one who wasn't escaping Skyrim or getting willingly caught to spy... She accidentally (and drunkenly) stumbled INTO Skyrim. My main, a Bosmer by the name of Yoshomika, is actually the Hero of Kvatch and had been a vampire, sorrowfully slumbering after failing Martin Septim. After being awoken by a foolish adventurer, she goes on a bloodthirsty rampage, then consuming copious amounts of alcohol to drown her woe. Going to Skyrim... was simply a drunken error.
I know this is really old, but did you know you actually meet the Hero of Kvatch in Skyrim? Sort of, anyway. At the end of the Shivering Isles DLC, the Hero mantles Sheogorath.
@@alexandertiberius1098 mmhmm, I did know that! Unfortunately, however, I never played Shivering Isles. So while that may very well be A Hero of Kavatch, it isn't MY Hero of Kavatch.
However, from a developer perspective, it's just as cool as the SkeleKnight Link in Twilight Princess. Which is high praise.
@@cameronjadewallace Wait, so your vamp isn't The Hero Of Kvatch, just a hero whose from Kvatch? That's amazing.
@@alexandertiberius1098 I just thought that in the insanity of the Shivering Isles, wibbliy-wobbily timey-wimey rules were in effect. Wasn't my hero, just another HoK that got caught in some sort of dimension rift or something. Tbf, tho, in the narrative of my Skyrim "story", my elf isn't the Dragonborn. She's just... An advocate for him, or something. Mereth has a touch of social anxiety.
@@cameronjadewallace You know, I've never really thought about what my characters did before the game starts. I've got it modded to oblivion (heh) and most of that is roleplay stuff, but I usually start off as a random nobody.
I did have an elf who was a devout follower of Arkay until their trusty companion, Lydia, was killed by a bear and they had a crisis of faith, turning to some rather extreme necromancy in an attempt to resurrect her. All that praying over people I killed was a pain anyway.
... I think I'm gonna play Skyrim again.
Partygoer: Hey Nate, you bring the party snacks?
Nate: One sec,
*whistles*
*Paarthunax breaks through ceiling*
Nate: Now the party can begin!
Paarthurnax is best wingman. 😎
We need a mod for this that adds Paarthurnax as a possible distraction at the Thalmor Embassy
It would be a shout :D
It's not a party without Paarthurnax
I always imagined that the “Prophesied hero” is the physical manifestation of the Elder Scrolls and doesn’t have any backstory. The hero is simply placed at the focal point that decides the fate of the Kalpa. As in, if the hero didn’t exist at that specific point, the events that will follow are going to end the world. Every playthrough is a different interpretation of the Elder Scrolls’ prophecy, hence are all true.
Ooo, fun theory
That actually makes perfect sense, after all the in game dexion quote goes something like "if the elder scrolls want to be found by someone they will will it so" so im sure they are able to control how things play out
Dragonborn: accepte deadra deals for powers
Deadra: hehe a new soul will be mine
Akatosh:its free real estate
I always imagined when the DB dies it'll start a huge religious war between the Daedric Princes that thought they got his soul in deals and the Divines. I imagine the Divines would band together since Akatosh is the chief of the 9 and they and the Daedra would fight over it.
I'd imagine the Daedra would lose tbqh.
Actually Nate, I would argue that the dragons ARE talking. That’s kind of their whole thing!
Right? Dragon fights are really just intense debates.
most of the time when they breath fire they don't actually say any words of power though, they just kinda scream
@@cyan_2877 they scream YOL which means fire
@@katalinetsedy9190 ua-cam.com/video/zix51voNETI/v-deo.html actually listen to it, there is nothing even remotely close to Yol in there. you can't even hear yol if you try to
@@cyan_2877 You can hear it if you don't have a hearing problem
Still the biggest mystery is how you can carry cheese for years without it going moldy
France: Is there a way to learn this power?
Charles De Gaulle: Piss off
justdragonbornthings
Plot twist: it is MOLDY
Or how you can, within a matter of less than one in-game second (and sometimes in the middle of a fight), consume 45 cheese wheels larger than your head, each weighing two units of whatever tamriel uses as a measure for weight, without getting sick.
Praise sheogorath!
I always assumed that the dragon bones found in the soul cairn were from Durnehviir. Valerica knew he would regenerate, and had seemingly seen him die multiple times. Maybe when he first came and died he left his bones behind like usual and made a whole new body for himself but over time as he lost power to the Cairn his bones started disintegrating with the rest of him upon defeat.
Maybe he tried to die to return to Nirn, but it failed, as he'd just respawn.
Just in terms of probability, I’d wager that none of the Divines or Daedric Princes get the Last Dragonborn’s soul, including Akatosh.
The Last Dragonborn seems to have a great many things implying, both within and outside the game, that they are a Shezarrine, and thus an avatar/manifestation of Lorkhan/Shor/Shezar. If the Last Dragonborn goes anywhere, I’m betting they either go back to Sovngarde to preside over the Hall of Shor, or else they simply get reabsorbed into Mundus and Nirn (because Lorkhan and Mundus/Nirn are effectively extensions of one another, so says the Heart of Lorkhan) until it’s time for a new Shezarrine to return again when the need is great enough.
Q: Who gets the Dragonborn's soul?
A: Everyone, they've sold it so many times it causes a dragon break.
He's staying on nirn as to keep the peace
Dragon Breaks are the answer to everything
personally, i think that depending on the players actions a massive godly war will take place in order to see who truly can claim the dragonborns soul. if you think about it by the end you could have ties with every god and every dadric prince, most of which have their own realms to take you to. the instant the dragonborn dies it will kick off a event so massive and all consuming it will make the oblivion crisis look like a road side mugging.
My dragonborn doesn't have a soul. And if she did it would be so unstable due to all the daedric (deadric?) Blessing and ungodly amount of dragon souls that she has absorbed, that it would have to be held down in the deepest pits of hell (also known as Blackreach) sealed inside a casket of Aetherium hidden away for the rest of time. 😃
Even if it isn't canon that the dragonborn has serviced the deadric princes as their champions, there needs to be a book in tes6 about a man who sold his soul to every prince and how they all sorted it out. That would be neat.
Could you imagine how epic that would be as the Dragonborn, your life finally at an end and a *dragon god* welcoming your soul home? That'd be awesome.
It's also an extremely comforting thought that no matter what your circumstances, no matter who tries to claim your soul, Akatosh will always take priority. Dragon souls go to Akatosh, no exceptions.
@@notsae66 except durhveniir he's kinda stuck
@@lilianakolb2032 True, but that's not a matter of his soul being claimed by another so much as him gaining semi-forced lichdom to keep him there. If he were to truly die, Akatosh would claim his soul.
I like this because it also means the dragon souls you absorbed will also get to go to there afterlife although it must be pretty awkward being there with the person who killed you stole your soul striped bits from your body and ran about using your scales and bones to do the same to others of your kind
@@kretisme lol.
"Hey, uh.. I was just flying & you shot me down."
"I thought you were going to attack me."
*Dragon angered*
"Enough, kids."
Regarding the Dragonborn not having wings: I think something to remember is that while the Dragonborn has a humanoid body, they have the soul of a dragon. Therefore, in Akatosh’s realm, would their soul’s form not reflect what it truly is?
I always figured Maven decided to turn to the Dark Brotherhood to knock off Sabjorn after he rebuffed her multiple buyout offers for Honningbrew, only to grow increasingly frustrated that the Black Sacrament wasn't working, which is what led to her deciding to entrust this problem to whichever Guild thief manages to prove themselves competent enough to deal with the Goldenglow Estate job.
Do ya mind, I'm doing the fish stick, it's a very delicate state of mind.
Ta! Come visit again! Or I'll pluck out your eyes!
Was it Molag? No, no... Little Tim, the toymaker's son? The ghost of King Lysandus? Or was it... Yes! Stanley, that talking grapefruit from Passwall.
@@strawberrymacaron1491 Well, I suppose it's back to the Shivering Isles. The trouble Haskill can get into while I'm gone simply boggles the mind...
The Isles, the Isles. A wonderful place! Except when it's horrible. Then it's horribly wonderful. Good for a visit. Or for an eternity.
@@strawberrymacaron1491 And the cheese! To die for.
" *Soul Karen* " this never gets old
That's smart haha
I like to think that when my character dies he’ll look at all the godlike beings waiting to collect his eternal soul, then he’ll give the old middle finger and go do whatever the hell he wants
fore the last theory, I can imagine them fighting over where the dragonborn goes
She's a wearwolf so she goes to MY plane of oblivion!
Shut up Hircine she's a nord so she goes to sovengard!
No she's my champion so she goes to my plane of oblivion!
NO MINE
*meanwhile the dragonborn goes back to an old save file*
I'd like to think that Akatosh would give the Dragonborn a choice as to where he/she would spend the rest of eternity
You know,I always thought that the keeper dragonborn's soul would've cause some sort of war between aedra and daedra.
Right that or all the dedras coming to collect at the same time
So it will be like john constatine? Heaven and hell going to war to claim their soul
Graenolf’s video is good about this, personally I think that you get to choose where your soul goes
You can always become vampire to save everyone from this headache
@@user-ke8ew3or5n so actually your soul would then belong to Molag Bal
"Have great power for the low low price of...your *SOUL* "
DB: pays with a slip of paper reading "IOU- Akatosh"
Dragonborn is the mortal vessel of Shor. That's why his throne is empty when you visit and why you can sit in it without repercussion.
There was the theory that we are just essentially the same soul being reborn over and over as each hero of each Elder Scrolls game. The Nerevarine, The Hero of Kvatch, The Dragonborn.... All the same soul.
So basically the world is going to get itself into trouble again
Shor: "Guess I'm going back. Again. Hold my mead."
How would that work if it’s canon that the Hero of Kvatch became Sheogorath?
When you are playing Skyrim and have Epic Nate videos playing as background noise, get a ping and see a new upload
Praise Talos!!!
Yes Talos! My friend is with the thalmor tho
@@paperchristmascrown3194 eh whatever. They steer clear of me, I wont bother then
The only way to play really lol.
I tought i was the only one 😄 nate's voice keeps me company
Mindy Auron I do the same thing but with the fallout videos
To be honest, these Elder Scrolls "why are you in prison" theories have always annoyed me... it's quite clear that there's not supposed to fixed answer (in Oblivion, if you ask the Emperor why you're in prison he literally tells you that "it does not matter").
The prison sequences are just a tools, they allow you to have the freedom to create your own backstory, while also having you start the game's story from a fixed point.
Crimson nirnroot does grow in 1 location above ground only once you complete the quest "A Return To Your Roots" and that is in Avrusa Sarethi's little nirnroot patch at the Sarethi Farm as it was intended to and fixed by the USKP. As a matter of fact that seems to be what the whole quest is for to teach her how to grow it.
One theory I see myself speculating is (this is for the last theory) the thought that when we (the dragonborn) dies, their soul split into however many daedras/divines we worship (minus sovengard, I you're an elf, redgard, or imperial (orcs are a type of elf) and not any of the elven God's if you're a nord, redgard, or imperial) and each would contain a specific personality of the soul that would best fit the plain of afterlife. Such as our dragonborn blood comes from dragon soul, so that fragment would end up being pure dragon, and the vengeance in our soul would go to the daedras of vengeance, depending on who you serve, and if a nord, if you die in battle, or honorable and battle hardened side of your soul would find itself in sovengarde, and so on an so forth.
1. Wasn't your character trying to get INTO Skyrim, not get out?
Alan2022 Yes.
Fortunately I've been able to escape Skyrim and the cold hands of the Demigod himself Todd Howard
tbh, we're just being told that your character was trying to cross the border. We've always assumed that it referred to it getting into Skyrim but nothing states that it couldn't have been the contrary.
@@uomoafide6539 thats true. At the same time, however, if the Dragonborn was already living in Skyrim and was trying to escape, wouldnt some people around Skyrim already know him? And wouldnt he have a house?
True, and most likely the correct assumption. I just meant that the way Ralof speaks to you doesn't really tell us if you were trying to get into or out of Skyrim. As long as you don't consider your questions to the common folks about the traditions and curiosities of Skyrim canon but more likely a role-playing mechanic woven into the story.
WAIT! I disagree! In the Soul Cairn, if you look up, the shapes in the “sky” seem to have wings and a tail, and I always thought these were the dragon souls. It at least begs the possibility. And maybe the giant portal in that sky takes the souls to the realm of Akatosh?
So technically, the soul cairn is like a waypoint for souls? Like all souls go there and the Ideal masters kind of siphon off energy from them and let them pass, making the ideal masters somewhat of a parasite connected to Akatosh's realm.
@@crimsonw1ld829 No the soul cairn is where souls go when they're used to bargen with the ideal masters. Not all captured souls go there and certainly not all souls.
Soul gems and such existed before the soul cairn too
i respect the amount of time you put into researching and making these videos.
I think your soul either goes to akatosh or sovngarde because after you defeat Alduin the guy who guards the bridge to the big building in sovngarde (idk what it’s called) says you will be let back in to sovngarde with open arms once you really die.
But it could go to akatosh because he collects all the dragons souls and you are Dragonborn which means he gets your soul obviously but also you are Dragonborn your whole life but if you become a champion to any of the daedra gods you do that as an adult which means you were ALREADY destined to go to akatosh the moment you were born.
His name is Tsun, the guy guarding the Hall of Valiant
The dragonborn after beeing ressurcected from akatoshs plane: " I have been falling for 3 millenia!"
"I have done nothing but teleport Sweetrolls for 3 days straight!" XD
Want a spookier theory?
Dragonborn doesn't actually like sweetrolls, they eat them so others can't enjoy them
Let me guess... Dovahkin stole your sweetrolls?
My character doesn't even eat them, I just hoard them!
Spleens The Cocain Addicted Cat same. If only the children could die from obesity. If only.
I just use the Midas Magic mod for the spell Sweetroll Madness
Just listened to a story from Hellfreezer where someone was accused of being rich and shopping for cheap groceries so the poor people wouldn't be able to buy food and would starve to death 😂
Me goes to sovengarde: find Miraak chilling there
" So the last dragonborn, meets the first dragonborn. Again."
Awww the tenth one made me sad I was hoping my werewolf soul would go to hircines eternal hunting ground
We need a Paarthurnax bowl with an area for chips and an area for dip. The Partysnax bowl as it were.
Twerk session
I would like to point out that there exist known 4 dragons "active" before Alduin returns
Two frozen under a lake in the dawnguard dlc
Party Snacks
And the most likely candidate of the burned shack mystery, the first Dragon you fight in the whiterun watchtower
There's also the Miraak's pets (4 serpentine dragons die in the dlc) and the green goo dragon in the soul cairn (who's trapped in the soul cairn unless you summon him for a few minutes)
There's another dragon allegedly hiding in another continent, if memory serves. I believe it was Morrowind, but again I can't remember everything that was stated.
There's also the skeleton dragon hiding in Skyrim too.
@@Redhollow idk about the Morrowind Dragon, but the skeleton dragon isn't "active" before Alduin since we see it getting out of its barrow personally... Although yeah it's Awakening doesn't have anything to do Alduin returning, it still comes back from death after Alduin appearing in Helgen
Wasn’t the dragon in Blackreach there from before too?
What about the dragon hidden in blackreach that only shows itself when you tier 3 shout the chandelier?
Like others have said. There's also Volthuryol who's imprisoned in Drangonsreach until you release him
One time I named my character "Jeffrey Epstein" in hopes that I would get the dark brotherhood random encounter because the note in their inventory would be funny.
Happened before I got to Riverwood. The note was hilarious.
Epstein didn't kill himself
maybe the first dragonborn sent the assassin? using one of his cultist to hire the assassin. when the assassin failed. he sent his cultist after you.
What if you don't have the dragon born dlc
For Uriel V, maybe the scout was right and he did see Uriel fall in battle to the Tsaesci and did technically die...but came back. The Tsaesci are not just snake-folk, but vampiric snake-folk that swallow men whole. There's a vampire coven in Valenwood, Yekef, that also swallow men whole. It could be Uriel got wounded and infected by a vampiric Tsaesci, "fell" in battle, and rose from the dead as a vampire.
He'd have to be a vampire in order to potentially return. Uriel's campaign was over 300 years before Skyrim. Uriel was a human race, and the oldest human ever was Tiber Septim who lived to 108. So maybe the scout was right in seeing Uriel fall to the Tsaesci, but wrong in thinking he was truly killed.
Wasnt Uriel a Dragonborn? Being a descendant of Talos? Maybe thats why he potentially could have an army of Dragons
Didn't Uriel get assassinated in oblivion I'm confused
@@rufuscord7160 Uriel Septim VII was murdered in Oblivion. They are talking about Uriel Septim V.
More evidence to support theory #3: that Alduin has been around for far longer than the beginning of the game is when you recall the fact that during the "Sovngarde" quest the player can wander the mist that Alduin created to allow for him to devour the souls of the dead, and besides meeting characters already encountered previously depending on decisions during certain quest lines (Ulfric, Galmar, Rikke, Kodlak, Svaknir, etc.) they can also meet the spirit of High King Torygg. This would suggest the possibility that Alduin returned and has been building his strength since around the time Torygg was killed in his duel with Ulfric. (There is also the possibility that Torygg simply wasn't found worthy by Tsun and thus unable to cross the whalebone bridge, but that may be unlikely.) I think Alduin could sense that the Dragonborn was coming, and in his egotistical narcissism, relished the opportunity to crush this mortal at his own hands. Perhaps he had some way of knowing that the Dragonborn arriving closer to Helgen and wanted to kill the player himself which is why he prevented their execution. Who knows?
Doesnt dragons usually tell that u are a dovah when they see you?
Even before the graybeards announce it
When u kill that first dragon at the watchtower he will scream with a surprised tone at the end" Dovahkiin? "
And alduin would probably have a better foresight by miles since he is the strongest dovah
@@salamanderxd8758 sometimes they do if they have scripted dialogue or are capable of having a conversation with the character, but this isn't the case with every dragon encounter. Alduin, after having been cast adrift in time, may have known that the last of the Dragonborn would challenge him upon his return. The Dragonborn is prophesied to be the one to defeat him in both the Elder Scroll (Dragon) and on Alduin's Wall. Alduin, in my opinion, is an overgrown lizard prick who wanted to strike down the mortal who had the gall to challenge him and never believed that the Dragonborn would succeed. Even the other dragons who followed Alduin, who dialogue the player can overhear, never believed that the Dragonborn would be successful.
xKillJoyx777 the true question is if alduin is truly defeated since the dragonborn doesn't SUCC Alduin's soul
He does still exist as long as the world exists I suppose...theirs a possibility he returned to his fathers side or that he will be reborn a mortal..? What confuses me though is the dovahkin is meant to be the next king by right yet that’s never an option...your more a slave boy (or girl) to the knights that are meant to protect you
Phartuurnax: *just chilling and flying around the neighborhood*
The neighboring couple: "dragon!"
Phartuurnax: "nope"
Alduin: "sup'"
The Brotherhood hunting the DB sort of fits with my feeling that the DB is a missing Septim, and before they got too powerful, say by killing dragons and eating their souls, and becoming a cult figure strong enough to challenge the Empire of Cyrodil, Skyrim is locked in a forever war. If they die before lending support to the Stormcloaks, the uprising fails. If they don't fail, and a Septim shows support to Ulfric, and Skyrim doesn't leave the Empire because a descendant of Talos resumes leadership of the Empire after the Emperor dies, the Thalmor suddenly faces two battle hardened militaries...
Literally the only thing getting me through this 16 hour work day is your videos Nate, thank you so much
16??? Jesus.
@@jacrispy3275 I know right, I worked 16 yesterday, 16 today, and 16 tommorow, oh and they are all overnight shifts from 1 pm to 5 am, so I am being #murderedtodeath by my boss
@@kevinberger8452 - what's job is it?
@@jacrispy3275 officially? I board op at a radio station. Unofficially I babysit a computer
@@kevinberger8452 - 'kay. Just curious. Well, you have fun with your sixteen hours, and be sure to always flip-off your boss when his back is turnt. Happy trails!
Hey Nate, I was just exploring Solthstiem and found something interesting that I am not sure if you noticed yet. East of the ramshackle trading Post and north of Ashfallow Citadel, there is a little stream with a barred gate. Behind that gate is an Argonian Miner. If you are interested, I will let you discover the lore for itself, it's a pretty sad story.
Obsidian Dragneel he did an entry on one of his lists already I watched it
I think he has covered that before, as I learned about it on UA-cam. Well it was either him or Camelworks, don't think that would be covered by FudgetMuppet.
Which list because I have watched through all of his Skyrim content.
Here’s what I think; Whoever Maven sent the DB after was whichever captive was guilty in the abandoned shack where you first meet Astrid.
She says there is only one person in that shack with a contract on them.... And that is the player character.
None of the other 3 were guilty of anything.
A spooky theory is why followers step on traps purposely.
Damn just how many times has Nate said "Only _______ know, and they aren't talking."
Only Nate knows, and he isn't talking.
186.
The Dawnguard DLC ---- The one with the Soul Cairn actually has one "living" dragon (he's immortal according to the official wiki) named Durnehviir. According to the game and official wiki, he made a deal with the Ideal Masters, thus leading him to be trapped there, guarding the Soul Cairn and Valerica (Serana's mother). The Dragonborn learns his shout to summon him in Tamriel but only for a short period of time. (I've never been able to actually do it in game sadly. I've tried many times)
You see several dragon bones littering the plane but he is the only dragon that we get a flying animation of or actually see fully rendered. The player sees this after dealing with all the Gatekeepers to undo the magical wall/boarder that keeps Valerica from leaving the ruins that the Ideal Masters had Durnehviir trap her in. When the player and Serana follow Valerica to get the Elder Scroll, Durnehviir appears, thus giving the player a boss fight.
However when the player kills Durnehviir, his body just disappears leaving the Dragonborn without getting a soul. Valerica warns that he is unable to truly die and may reappear. He's legit just waiting for the Dragonborn (once the scroll is gotten) outside the ruins to talk, thus being how you get a shout to summon him.
a year late, but you have to aim the shout at the ground in the wild (not A city) because you arent summoning him from the sky like oohdahving. He actually teaches you a shout for summoning him 3 times
I think Nate left him out because he's not really soul trapped and can't actually die, so his soul just doesn't pass on and wouldn't break or help the theory
Dragons are all immortal unless a Dragonborn kills them. They'd just rise later.
Imagine just a round table meeting, with all the Aedra and Daedra arguing "Well they pledged their soul to me first!" "Yeah but then they pledged it to me so they changed it!" "Nuh uh no taksies-backsies"
I would also like to point out that there are Soul Gem geodes down in Blackreach that you can mine ACTUAL soul gems from. Even though I don't know this, soul gems and the pieces of Aetherium you can aquire for the quest look A LOT alike. Like, the sheen and the reflections look almost identical. So I second that the rocks might be Aetherium.
i would like to actually see Uriel V coming back with an army of dragons, we as the Dragonborn can then choose our side with Uriel or the Thalmor. Would always like to see a proper ending to Skyrim's independence. Kill those blasted elves!
I do know there are mods that actually continues the civil war between the Stormcloaks and Imperials that actually let us destroy the Thalmor, but I find the original idea of Uriel V's returning much more fascinating.
Yeah, I personally heavily disagree with Todd's statement about less information being a good thing. While in world no one character would reasonably know all the mysteries (excluding Mora), but I personally would absolutely love to have all the lore.
And I agree, a story of an Immortal Emperor from ages long past come to retake his homeland from the Nazi Elves with an army of dragons sounds absolutely fucking awesome and I would love oh so very much to see that happen.
Fuck the thalmor
-me who only has only played as nords since morrowind
The Thalmor is a b*tch and they think they are too good for the world.
The one Thalmor I've played is my current character, who's a Female Mage who functionally played Vigilante in her teen equivalent years, and then after causing enough trouble and outing enough corruption it was starting to irritate some even more corrupt people higher up the ladder, which then got her promptly got banished her noble house and sent to Skyrim to learn at the college of Winterhold. She's been planning revenge ever since.
TLDR: The one Thalmor/Altmer I've had as a PC hates the Thalmor. Which is ironic at worst, and hilarious at best.
Doesn't Tsun explicitly say you'll be going to Sovngarde?
Well, not exactly, he does say we are (despite race) a true Nord, and welcome to eternally rest in Sovengard, not that we will do so without question, just that it's a possibility
Yeah but you're also told you'll go to Hircine's hunting grounds if you become a werewolf with the companions.
@@shootaman2 unless you cure the lycanthropy
@@marethyu1323 yes but the point still stands. You're told by a few people that you'll be going to a certain afterlife
I like to imagine Akatosh's realm to be like the caverns of time from WoW
Fun fact, Nate. Haha. The Resto potion loop can be used to magnify any enchantments on your armor. Run the loop a bit, then pop on any armor you want. It sticks. Until you take that armor off. If you dont want to be an enchanter you can still have crazy stats.
Anyone else expect this to end with, “But, that’s just a theory. A Skyrim theory”?? Hahaha!
Nice game theory reference
Nate , a tiny detail you may have missed / a unique weapon is the Dragon Priest's Dagger , in Castle Volkihar. Next to the cathedral entrance ( go past it ) is a room with an alchemy and enchanting table. Go up the stairs in that room and go to the book cases. There will be a display case with the unique Dragon Priest's Dagger inside.
Like so he sees
What theory does this relate to again?
I found the dagger, but I wonder if there's a specific use for it or is it just aesthetic?
The dragon priest dagger found in castle volkihar isn't the only one you can find. There's actually several of them in the world.
Not unique, just saying, can be found in a couple cairns.
Tolfdir will give you a unique one in a certain quest he gives u tho.
That Akavir is ducking crazy!!! I never knew that!!! That is by far the most interesting thing you’ve brought up.
i’m currently thinking about the dragonborn’s soul like “screw you!” to all the daedric lords who want their soul as akatosh is like *yoink*
As a dragon born, my soul will be claimed by dibella. No theories needed. I can tell you that my dragon bone is going to have a lot of work to do.
Make sure to enchant it with absorb stamina
@@JargonMadjin good thinking.
About the whole "fleeing Skyrim" thing... The game assumes you know NOTHING of the Nordic culture, and what is going on in Skyrim whatsoever. For a Skyrim citizen? That would be quite unlikely. Especially about the whole civil war thing, which everybody knows about... I'd rather think you were sneaking from Cyrodiil into Skyrim. Afterall, Ralof never said what direction you were crossing that border from. That or you just popped there, Gordon Freeman style.
Hadvar will also say if you chose to play as a Nord at the beginning of the game that you chose a bad time to return to your homeland. That indicates to me that you were leaving Cyrodil and entering Skyrim.
@@jacehawkins2791 Hadvar also says so for other races as well, none of the races (except maybe Argonians?) imply that you could be living in Skyrim (Argonians, he asks if you're family from the Riften dock workers, which can be that you live there, or not).
On top of that, the Empire knows who everybody is... Except you. So they know the name of the Skyrim citizens, you're therefore not registered on the list.
Finaly, if you were in Skyrim, why would they send your corpse to the country you race is from? That means they have no single clue of where you came from. I assume a Dunmer who was born, and lived all his life in Cyrodiil don't get burried in Morrowind, given they are also outlanders to the Dunmer people.
(Although, its also safe to assume the Skyrim character also doesn't come from Morrowind, given he has no idea about Solstheim and all that happened with Morrowind xD)
I think the dragonborn is an immortal being going from 1 place to another. Trying to make a life for himself. But then after everyone he knew died. He goes crazy. and ends up having his memory erased perhaps on purpose to forget the pain of being immortal. But during world ending events. His mindless being just gets drawn to it. And finally when crossing the borders gets some idea of what it is to be humanoid. And ends up being in places he shouldnt be. Therefor being in prison every game start. So its the same person in all the ederscrolls games
@@benjaminnoort5015 Well the only issue with your theory is, the Hero of Kvatch is Sheogorath. There are multiple nods to Oblivion, and well, he does say he was there.
Altho the prisonner is something else. Every Elder Scrolls game starts with a prisonner of some kind. The prisonner is a symbol, an avatar of something. And so in the essence, they are the same entity in some capacity.
Just like how the Dovahkiin, being an avatar of Shor, Shor is not here when the Dovahkiin enters his pantheon. In a way, they are part of each other.
Although, for Sheogorath, maybe the fact that the Hero of Kvatch mentled into the mad god made him (or her) different from the Prisonner he/she was once. That would also explain why, asside from Sheogorath, none of the heroes are ever seen together.
Now though, the important thing to remember is that, wether its lazy writting or not, every quest is canon. Including multi-choice quests.
For example, the Dark Brotherhood IS destroyed in Skyrim. BUT ALSO, the Emperor etc will still die to the Darkbrotherhood. That is because the story can be told in a way that basically says "SOMEONE destroyed the Dark Brotherhood, but a surviving member (WHICH can be Cicero, given Cicero arrives only after you get the choice to destroy the brotherhood) kills the Emperor."
Every quest and every choices in each quests are canon, wether they were done by the hero of the game or not.
@@ChizuruMinamoto i always saw the main quests as canon and the side quests as things the player could have done if he went a different direction. Made it more believeable for me.
I always assumed that the Dragonborn was in canon a Nord and will end up in Sovngarde when he eventually dies as I believe some of the Nord Hero's in the Hall of Valor can be heard saying they are Dragonborn too, but since Hermaeus Mora undoubtedly knows this they will keep the Dragonborn alive in his servitude for as long as they see fit, similarly to Miraak.
Milmurnir went into hiding, and when you fight him, he comes down from the same general direction of Helgen and that cabin
When they finally do reveal what the Dwemer look like and why they disappeared, I pray to the Divines Bethesda doesn't disappoint me
Well we already know what they looked like, i believe in tes 3 you get to meet one that survived (kinda). As for their disappearance lore points to it being them activating their mechanical god which caused them to disappear. Most assume they achieved chim but most think that they almost did and refused to accept their reality causing their disappearance all the same as if they did accepted their reality. Its very convoluted but the reason they vanished and what they looked like is no real mystery. Dwemer were just a different type of elven race.
Just pick any Mer class and toggle through all the available character customizations. If you have done that, you have seen a Dwemer.
@@moviemaker2011z yes true he was in the sanitarium in Morrowind I think from memory
As far as where they went, they died. End of story. Want proof? There's a magies guild quest where thus guy replicates what the dwemer did. He disappears and you get the ability to summon his shade. Summon his shade, means he ded. Dwemer ded. End of mystery
didnt they go beyond chim?
One of my favorite Armor mods is seamlessly blended with the "Lost to the Ages" quest. And, with that last one, I've met a "Hero of Sovngarde " who claimed she was Dragonborn. So, if we take her at her word, she was Dragonborn when she was alive, and she is still in the Hall of Valor. Maybe the difference is, that during her life, she never killed a dragon (as there weren't any at that time). So, Miraak was a dragon killer and goes to Akatosh, and you are a dragon killer and go to Akatosh. But any Nord Dragonborn who doesn't kill a dragon, as long as they aren't sworn to any Prince, and dies a honorable death and lived a valorous life, goes to Sonvgarde.
The Last Dragonborn absorbs Miraaks soul though, obviously it's uncommon for Dragonborns to meet let alone kill each other though
@@JargonMadjin But Nate said that Akatosh took Miraak's soul. We just get the souls of the Dragons he recently killed, or stole from us. At least, that's what I thought.
@@dragonson04 A dragonborn has the soul of a dragon right? So you clearly absorb it too, not to mention Miraak pretty much spells out for you that he would have taken your soul if he killed you, he turned to bones when you absorbed the soul like any other dragon
@@JargonMadjin It is the soul of a Dragon. But, it is also a Dragonborn Soul. That little piece of mortality is what makes the difference.
@@dragonson04 No, the literal definition of a dragonborn is that it's a mortal with the soul of a dragon..
5:40 oof I always just thought that was the lighting effects in there. The big blue glowing mushrooms casting blue light onto the rocks. Hm. Am I dumb?
That first one is a very interesting backstory option! I'll have to write that down for later
In my head cannon, the Dragonborn achieves CHIM like Tiber Septim, and becomes the new Talos, or another new Divine.
Greg Walker all of the elder scrolls protagonists have already done so. This is confirmed in morrowind by another chim achiever, as they know they can’t kill you for good since you’ll essentially reload. Therefore the save mechanic is a part of chim
Didn’t they all become immortal in their own way? I only know oblivion’s player character becomes deadra (sorry autocorrect won’t let me spell it correctly) so you techniquely meet him as he is sherogroth...he even sees that us a player has a mission and claims he will lose his mind like him...
@@donnykitsune5707 I'm probably wrong but the Eternal Champion I think just retires and dies from old age. The Agent dies during the ending of 2, though that might be only one of the endings. But I guess that would make it all of the endings then. _shrug_
There's actually a strong possibility the Dragonborn is a Shezarrine mantleing Shor/Lorkhan, which is why he's absent in Sovengarde. It's you. Lorkhan and Akatosh are the two sides of the same coin, Alduin being yet another offshoot of Akatosh. So really you are a God, fighting yourself. Sounds pretty epic before you remember Alduin is a terrible boss fight.
@@2445elijah dude, the memories that you just brought up of the hundreds of hours i wasted as a kid just fighting Vivec for fun on Master in an endless (pointless) battle of the Gods. Almost brought me to tears. And now I'm thinking of the hundreds of hours i spent collecting every pillow in the game and stacking elaborate pillow forts while high on skooma. Good times. Morrowind is the real MVP.
I'd assume that the "Uriel V returning with an army of dragons" was rewritten into what we now have as the Dragonborn DLC. I'd assume that they took heavy inspiration from that concept and turned it into the story line we have now
Key thing to not about Dragonborn: they have the bodies of mortals, but their souls are dragons. They are said to possess a dragon’s soul. So it would make perfect sense that Akatosh would have dibs over anyone else.
Dragonborn, when he dies, goes into Akatosh's realm and sees Miraak there: Oh shit, here we go again