Random 4-6lb mono - fluro, im going to get a spool of verivas i think i spelled that wrong 5lb twitch pro mono and im going to use that when i get better at not back lashing
@@pablood If you ever played Mario Cart or Mario Tennis, Mario is always that all around character that doesn't really excel at anything. He is ok playing on grass, clay or cement but, doesn't have the attributes to take advantage of the court...same with copolymer.
I use Berkley nanofil 8lb and for me I can cast farther then 2lb trout magnet line with a shimano slx bfs and kastking zypher 5.6 rod by a noticeable amount. Since I am new to bfs and bait casting reels in general the extra strength in the line gives me more confidence when I hook trees or backlash to not need to retie or respool.
This is a GREAT tip, especially for BFS reels. I will be ready to Spool up my Kastking Zephyr BFS, once my rod build is complete... Thank you for sharing 🍺🎣
For hi-viz, the VARIVAS Super Trout Advance Sight Edition is my pick. It has been super tough, casts great and is easily seen. That is great for low light fishing for brown trout. They love to hit topwater at night. Other fish in lakes don't mind the green color either.
This is great information. I've fished for many years and never once measured out a spool of line. Nor have I tied onto the spool without first adding a little backing to tie on to. I am just jumping into BFS and I have a Curado BFS reel. I'm going to try your suggestions here. With the cost of good fluorocarbon this will save me money over the long run. Thanks!
Something I have never thought of in over 30+ years of fishing. Very good idea. I have gone to buying bigger spools of line to try and manage some of the leftover line. I am sure some of the line degrades over time on my shelf so measuring it out could definitely help. If not just to know how much you have left after filling up your spool would definitely be helpful!
Since BFS spools are shallow, the inches retrieved per turn doesn’t change much as the spool fills. So, I just calculate the number of turns required to put X amount of line on the spool.
I always use braid to Fluorocarbon leader. BFS: Sunline Siglon PE 4, Tailwalk Power Eye Pee Wee or Varivas Avani Lightgame (PE 0.6 to 0.8). Non BFS: Suffix 832, Power Pro Super 8 slick or Daiwa 8 braid. Nice Video but quite an academic approach to spool a reel. Indeed you are right to do so as I have way too much useless line leftover. Well done 👍
Ive been using 6-8lb fluro as of late. Tried braid recently (Major Craft Dangan) which i feel casts easier, but i have lost a couple fish with it rubbing around snags and fraying.
A lot of people like braid with BFS gear. I use it but, I use fluorocarbon or mono most times. You could always use a leader to prevent your braid from rubbing of rocks and such.
this is a few months late but I'll share .... I do a clinch or uni BUT unlike no/less tag , I like to leave a 1/2 or 3/4 inch tag end and have it sit flat across the left-right width of the spool so that when I wind in line, the line will sit on the tag end left-right multiple times giving it more grip and avoid slipping even more.... 2 safetys so to speak. So yeah, I dont cut off the tag end but leave enough of it to cover at least half the width of the spool
I use 8lb Sufix 832 on BFS. Also would really like to try their NanoBraid (great on spinning) and the new G core is supposedly good. Sunline in below or at 5lb Sniper is great for fluoro. Not sure on other light BFS braided lines...
I meassure out as I reel on the line via this method. First I determine the reel capacity in meters and the line retrieve rate per each turn of the handle. Lets say the reel holds 45 meters and the retrieve ratio is 81cm pr turn. so 45m x 100cm/m ÷ 81cm = 50 turns. Then just count out fifty turns as you wide on the line and you will have a full bfs rreel. No line on the ground and you can easily do it indoors.
I'm an expert on getting birdnests out now thanks to braid lmao one bad birdsnest on mono or fluoro and ur days done especially if your a greenhorn such as myself which is something that puts alot of people off .
I only ever use 30m of line, be that Light braid or fluoro. I think it's more common over here in the UK to use 50m or less. I just find out what the retrieval rate is per turn of the handle and do it that way. ie Aldebaran has 63cm per turn (according to the box) so 30/0.63=47.6 turns of the handle. I usually round up to 48. Alphas Air 2020 is easier as its 75cm (40 turns)
@@HobieWanKenobi 👍 was good to see your way of tying the line to the spool, as always with knots it's good to know another method. I've been using the improved arbor knot that as seen over Rawr fishing. Really like it as the line doesn't tend to slip on the spool.
Just got the Curado BFS? You should look into the Dobyns Sierra Ultra Finesse BFS rod. It handles finesse bass fishing, walleye and other like fish just fine
@@HobieWanKenobi thanks! Yes Curado BFS. My lightest current road goes down to an 1/8, but 3/16 is more like it. I will be on the lookout for the Dobyns. It and the Phenix were all I have bee seeing online. Nothing in the real world
@@corollinout Good to know there are more offerings for lighter powered BFS rods. That Dobyns Sierra 700c is hard to beat for bass/walleye BFS fishing though
Good questions. I change my line at least once a year. I fish a lot too. I used to have to change it more but, I been using better line the last few years and that helped me change as often. As far as signs of seeing when to change out line, when there are noticable kinks or damage beyond the last few meters. Also, I test my line strength about 3m from the end after a few months to see if the line got weak. Doesn't have to be really hard pulling, as a fish doesn't actually put a ton of stress on one spot on your line after stretch and rod bending. Also, if you notice a lot more breakoffs (other than pike biting your line), might be time to change. Lastly, you can always flip the line on your reel halfway through the season to get the fresh line buried on your reel and get the used line buried in the spool.
I haven't had any issues with hi viz line and trout. I mostly fish clear shallow streams too. Of fish are more pressured, that's definitely true they can get line shy
No. You do not measure how much you want on. You spool it up until it is full. All reels work best when they are FULL. If at the end of a spool you have to throw a little away, then that’s the cost of doing it RIGHT. Keep those tape measures out of your way when spoiling a reel. This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Also you always spool with the reel on the rod and the line through at least the last guide.
Steve. This is just to measure the amount of line you want to take off the spool of line. If your spool isn't full taking the desired amount of line off the line spool, you can use backing as I mentioned. You can still meet your intent of having a full reel and still be economical with your line.
With regards to BFS fishing it‘s not always smart to fill the spool until it’s full. Fishing streams as Hobie mentioned doesn‘t need that much of a line and the less line weight sits on the spool the lighter baits you can cast with ease. So it‘s definitely not the dumbest thing as you mentioned….
@@arnemueller2112 I think Steve point is valid in most fishing situations in regard to having the spool full. Stream BFS fishing is its own little world
Comment below what line you put on your reels.
Random 4-6lb mono - fluro, im going to get a spool of verivas i think i spelled that wrong 5lb twitch pro mono and im going to use that when i get better at not back lashing
Yozuri 8 lbs fluoro
@@pablood I remember back in the day a lot of people on TackleTour forums would use Yo-Zuri copolymer for finesse reels
@@HobieWanKenobi u think it s a good line option? Tks, really love your channel
@@pablood If you ever played Mario Cart or Mario Tennis, Mario is always that all around character that doesn't really excel at anything. He is ok playing on grass, clay or cement but, doesn't have the attributes to take advantage of the court...same with copolymer.
I use Berkley nanofil 8lb and for me I can cast farther then 2lb trout magnet line with a shimano slx bfs and kastking zypher 5.6 rod by a noticeable amount. Since I am new to bfs and bait casting reels in general the extra strength in the line gives me more confidence when I hook trees or backlash to not need to retie or respool.
I was running 2lb Nanofil on a BFS reel for a while. I had to be super careful. That line gets frayed just looking at it.
This is a GREAT tip, especially for BFS reels. I will be ready to Spool up my Kastking Zephyr BFS, once my rod build is complete...
Thank you for sharing 🍺🎣
For hi-viz, the VARIVAS Super Trout Advance Sight Edition is my pick. It has been super tough, casts great and is easily seen. That is great for low light fishing for brown trout. They love to hit topwater at night. Other fish in lakes don't mind the green color either.
@@HobieWanKenobi I gathered that after watching your other video. Hence the edit on my comment. Should have listened and watched it first... Lol 🍺🎣
Really enjoy all your videos. Thank you!
Thanks for watching Lonny. Glad you enjoy the videos.
This is great information. I've fished for many years and never once measured out a spool of line. Nor have I tied onto the spool without first adding a little backing to tie on to. I am just jumping into BFS and I have a Curado BFS reel. I'm going to try your suggestions here. With the cost of good fluorocarbon this will save me money over the long run. Thanks!
I am cheap so, I like to save money. It also helps with casting performance too
Something I have never thought of in over 30+ years of fishing. Very good idea. I have gone to buying bigger spools of line to try and manage some of the leftover line. I am sure some of the line degrades over time on my shelf so measuring it out could definitely help. If not just to know how much you have left after filling up your spool would definitely be helpful!
Thanks for watching. I'm glad I was able to help.
Since BFS spools are shallow, the inches retrieved per turn doesn’t change much as the spool fills. So, I just calculate the number of turns required to put X amount of line on the spool.
That's a way to do it. Measuring it out is consistent whether using a BFS reel, spinning reel or an ice fishing inline reel.
Another informative video I usually run it through the holes at least 9 holes.
Thanks for watching.
I always use braid to Fluorocarbon leader. BFS: Sunline Siglon PE 4, Tailwalk Power Eye Pee Wee or Varivas Avani Lightgame (PE 0.6 to 0.8). Non BFS: Suffix 832, Power Pro Super 8 slick or Daiwa 8 braid. Nice Video but quite an academic approach to spool a reel. Indeed you are right to do so as I have way too much useless line leftover. Well done 👍
It bothers me when I have like 15m of line left on a spool. It usually gets used a leader.
Not useless Arne... Leader material 😉
To some, regular line doesn't stand up to the rigors of what leader material needs to.
One of my favorite small stream lines . I consider a good line a must . 😁👍
I agree. Bush Trail has been my go to line.
In carp fishing in the UK, they use distance sticks if they don’t have room to lay lie out.
That's a good way to judge line amount.
Ive been using 6-8lb fluro as of late. Tried braid recently (Major Craft Dangan) which i feel casts easier, but i have lost a couple fish with it rubbing around snags and fraying.
A lot of people like braid with BFS gear. I use it but, I use fluorocarbon or mono most times. You could always use a leader to prevent your braid from rubbing of rocks and such.
this is a few months late but I'll share .... I do a clinch or uni BUT unlike no/less tag , I like to leave a 1/2 or 3/4 inch tag end and have it sit flat across the left-right width of the spool so that when I wind in line, the line will sit on the tag end left-right multiple times giving it more grip and avoid slipping even more.... 2 safetys so to speak. So yeah, I dont cut off the tag end but leave enough of it to cover at least half the width of the spool
The tag idea is pretty good!!
It’s important to measure you max cast. I recently casted and my line got snagged on the spool from the backing to main line knot.
Very true. I mentioned in many videos having short casts in streams, 25-33m is enough. If fishing in lakes, 33-50m is best.
Thanks for these videos. I'm proud to say I ordered my Shimano SLX BFS with your code and got some line as well.
Glad to help. VARIVAS line is so much cheaper on Digitaka
@@HobieWanKenobi yes it is! I got 2 spools
I use 8lb Sufix 832 on BFS. Also would really like to try their NanoBraid (great on spinning) and the new G core is supposedly good. Sunline in below or at 5lb Sniper is great for fluoro. Not sure on other light BFS braided lines...
I been trying a bunch of lines over the years. I been trying the VARIVAS lines this year. They seem to be super nice so far.
I meassure out as I reel on the line via this method. First I determine the reel capacity in meters and the line retrieve rate per each turn of the handle. Lets say the reel holds 45 meters and the retrieve ratio is 81cm pr turn. so 45m x 100cm/m ÷ 81cm = 50 turns. Then just count out fifty turns as you wide on the line and you will have a full bfs rreel. No line on the ground and you can easily do it indoors.
The IPT of the reel changed as line is stacked on the spool, changing the "spool diameter", taking more line in per turn each rotation.
I really like spiderwire braid 🕸 since I'm new to fishing and baitcasting ,it helps with bird nests 🐦
Braid does have more durability to bridnesting than mono or fluoro.
I'm an expert on getting birdnests out now thanks to braid lmao one bad birdsnest on mono or fluoro and ur days done especially if your a greenhorn such as myself which is something that puts alot of people off .
@@blicky308 Don't worry...you will get very good at picking out backlashes. I picked many and still pick them out
I only ever use 30m of line, be that Light braid or fluoro. I think it's more common over here in the UK to use 50m or less. I just find out what the retrieval rate is per turn of the handle and do it that way. ie Aldebaran has 63cm per turn (according to the box) so 30/0.63=47.6 turns of the handle. I usually round up to 48. Alphas Air 2020 is easier as its 75cm (40 turns)
Seems like a lot of people use that technique.
@@HobieWanKenobi 👍 was good to see your way of tying the line to the spool, as always with knots it's good to know another method. I've been using the improved arbor knot that as seen over Rawr fishing. Really like it as the line doesn't tend to slip on the spool.
Rawr has tons of little tackle tips like that
Thanks for the tip... 😁👍🏻 Absolutely helpful 👌🏼
Happy to help! Glad I could pass some knowledge along to help you all out.
Just got one! Now any US rod suitable for neds and light salt water?
Great channel!
Just got the Curado BFS? You should look into the Dobyns Sierra Ultra Finesse BFS rod. It handles finesse bass fishing, walleye and other like fish just fine
@@HobieWanKenobi thanks! Yes Curado BFS. My lightest current road goes down to an 1/8, but 3/16 is more like it. I will be on the lookout for the Dobyns. It and the Phenix were all I have bee seeing online. Nothing in the real world
@@ArthriticAngler That Dobyns is a true bass BFS rod
Old 18 Suppressor UL is made in Texas, and built for BFS. Old 18 also has another one that's a little cheaper.
@@corollinout Good to know there are more offerings for lighter powered BFS rods. That Dobyns Sierra 700c is hard to beat for bass/walleye BFS fishing though
Do you do the same knot with braid? Concern is that it can spin
Thanks for the video.
You are welcome! These tips keep me saving money when using higher end line.
great job 👏
Thanks. People bug out over fishing line prices but drop money on frivolous things. I like to save my money without compromise
How often do you change out your line and what should we look for to know when to change out our line ?
Good questions. I change my line at least once a year. I fish a lot too. I used to have to change it more but, I been using better line the last few years and that helped me change as often.
As far as signs of seeing when to change out line, when there are noticable kinks or damage beyond the last few meters. Also, I test my line strength about 3m from the end after a few months to see if the line got weak. Doesn't have to be really hard pulling, as a fish doesn't actually put a ton of stress on one spot on your line after stretch and rod bending.
Also, if you notice a lot more breakoffs (other than pike biting your line), might be time to change.
Lastly, you can always flip the line on your reel halfway through the season to get the fresh line buried on your reel and get the used line buried in the spool.
Good tip
I'm all about saving money wherever I can
Don’t fish shy away from hi viz line?
I haven't had any issues with hi viz line and trout. I mostly fish clear shallow streams too. Of fish are more pressured, that's definitely true they can get line shy
Put it in spool shaft trough the hole....
That isn't an option on all spools. Works with spools with holes.
chris bumstead does fishing now
Your knot is called an arbor knot.
I didnt know what the knot was called. Thanks for letting me know the name.
No. You do not measure how much you want on. You spool it up until it is full. All reels work best when they are FULL. If at the end of a spool you have to throw a little away, then that’s the cost of doing it RIGHT. Keep those tape measures out of your way when spoiling a reel. This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Also you always spool with the reel on the rod and the line through at least the last guide.
Steve. This is just to measure the amount of line you want to take off the spool of line. If your spool isn't full taking the desired amount of line off the line spool, you can use backing as I mentioned. You can still meet your intent of having a full reel and still be economical with your line.
With regards to BFS fishing it‘s not always smart to fill the spool until it’s full. Fishing streams as Hobie mentioned doesn‘t need that much of a line and the less line weight sits on the spool the lighter baits you can cast with ease. So it‘s definitely not the dumbest thing as you mentioned….
@@arnemueller2112 I think Steve point is valid in most fishing situations in regard to having the spool full. Stream BFS fishing is its own little world