Heracles' Sack of Troy? | Achaean-Hittite War over Ilion (Wilusa) c. 1265 BC
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- During the early reign of Hittite king Hattusili III and corresponding the time of mythical Eurystheus, the Hatti tablets record an Achaean-Hittite war over the city of Ilion (Troy), known in the Hatti texts as Wilusa. In ancient Greek tradition, this event is known as Heracles' (Hercules) expedition against Trojan king Laomedon, taking place c. 1265 BCE, a generation before the Trojan war.
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I mean, the entire basis for the War described in the Iliad and Odyssey, was an ongoing conflict between The Greek kingdoms and Troy. So it’s only logical to concluded there were earlier conflicts. Or why would the Spartans be making a peace pact in the first place? Point being, anyone who thought The Trojan War was the first conflict between Troy and the Western Greeks, didn’t read the context of those two books very well Thank you for delving deeper into the subject for those who don’t know the tribal conflict between kingdoms and Empires of the Kate Bronze Age.
I'm really in love with the niche nature of this channel, it resonates with my own interests so much.
Really enjoying your content, thanks for your work dude!
Archaeologists have found at least three or more destroyed Troys, on the site where the city, once stood, with evidence that at least one was burnt down.
9 not 3
@@KRYPTIA-mp4ol Wow, knew it was more than three, but not that many. Talk about being an unlucky place to live. 😯
@@julianaylor4351 or a very popular place to live
No there was 100 Troy's. Does any of you know what the word Troy means? Didn't think so. Its a land mass. A royal square mile. It's like saying an Acre today. Its not in Greek. It's in Albanian. Just an FYI. So are all the names of the rulers of Troy. Sorry bud you haven't done your homework. You're telling a bed time story.
@@lordalexander5653 I search and found these for albanian words: zonë for landmass, Toka for land, hapësirë for space, pjesë for part, vendndodhja for location and about land mass i only found masë tokësore. Nothing about Troy or something similar though. Can you be more specific because i don't go anywhere with what you are writing.
Woah... that opening scene had me thinking I was in a movie! Great video man and love tuning in every week for a new one. Your consistency is amazing and please keep it up!
Thanks Cy, appreciate it! Can't wait for your new video!
Have you even think that this is not the Heracles' sack of Troy, but the REAL TROYAN war. The expedition fits with the Agamemnon's campaign, but what is really interesting is the similarity of the names Penthesilea ( the Amazon queen) and Hattusili. Is today in discussion that the amazons were the last memory of the Hittites in Greek mythology
so you think perhaps they feminized the Hittites as an insult? That would make sense.
In essence, the legend of the Amazons commemorates an old era of matriarchal social organization, of the Greek land, especially in the area of Attic Boeotia. Perhaps from the time of the Mynios?
You prove this from the war between Athenians and Amazons as well as the toponyms you associate with them, such as the Thermodontas river which was near the city of Thebes.
Later, when the matriarchy receded, the myth created by the new structure of the patriarchy places them gradually, more and more distant, at the ends of the Greek territory.
@@Dragonette666it seems that the Hittites were used to shave the beard, as you can see in their representations. That was a big contrast with their neighbors, either the assyrians or the greeks themselves.
@@panagiotis7946 i don’t think a matriarchal society has ever existed. And the Hittites were Indo-Europeans as well. I doubt they somehow became matriarchal just because they were in Anatolia.
@@Astavyastataa The Amazons and their activities
As entities, they are concepts that only the ancient Greeks were concerned with
in mythology, literature and art
In mythology, this prototype is expressed by the heroine Atalanti as well as the goddess Artemis
the other peoples did not mention them because they did not have this need.
you may be right, but we see from the archaeological findings that the Minoan woman is at the center
the toponyms you associate with the Amazons exist in Greece
Thank you for another great and informative video. A pleasure to watch and listen to them!
Thank you very much for your feedback!
Funny that around the same a rogue warlord named Piyama-Radu made havok into western Anatolia .Different from Hercules he was very well documented in Hittite sources.
Piyama-radu sounds like an indo-aryan name so an mittani descendant or an hindu rekt them probably was sahadeva
@@Skyfather567 or maybe is just a similarity, probably piyama-radu was a Western anatolian noble
Great video, man. I love it. You've done your homework
Thank you, really appreciate it man!
Excellent video! I had heard the mythological story before. But I greatly appreciate all the extra details on what happened! So it looks like troy was sacked 2 times by the Greeks. First by Hercules and the second by the Trojan war.
Herakles *
Troy was a successive city on top of city on top of a city, on top of a city. At least 9 versions if I’m not mistaken. Meaning they had to have gone through at least 8 destructive conflicts in the past prior to The Great Greco-Trojan War.
@@shannondavis3686 I read somewhere that earthquakes were responsible for several layers.
And according to Greek mythology it was also destroyed by the god Posiedon before it was destroyed by Hercules.
@@funkyfiss There is cracks in a wall in one of the layers, indicating it may have been destroyed by an earthquake. Yet there is also evidence of burning, and sling stones in that sane layer. So, it’s still up for debate. The debat also must consider the two sections of the city. The lower residential city and upper Citadel. There is archaeological evidence of at least two layers between 1700-1100 bc that were brought down due to war. With one of these layers showing proof that the city was resettled by the sane population group, as opposed to Greek colonists. As is suspected of later layers. Now, if you take mythological stories, and compare them with what we know archaeologically, a picture begins to form of multiple defeats, and or destructions, and resettlement of the city. I should have qualified my first comment better. (There are many instances of the city’s destruction pre-Greco-Trojan war. Through War, or Natural Disaster, that was then proclaimed to be the work of the gods)
Fascinating Episode!
Wow! Very interesting video about a period that is not often talked about. I hope you continue making such high quality videos
Thank you. Yes, more videos about this time period are coming!
Finaly someone took the time to make a video on this subject. Great video and documentary man, I'll hope to see more in the future. Heracles sack Troy and many other city states, the man was a butcher. I would love to see more of these videos that are pre-dateing the Troyan war. Respect for these documentaries that you are doing on youre own. Best regards from Bosnia.
It's a constellation, namely Hercules, next to Ophiuchus, the Serpent Bearer, marking the New Year for Egyptians, Assyrians, Celts, Jews, Phoenicians, and Canaanites. The battle of Troy is a Celestial allegory. The arrow that strikes Archilles heel is shot by Philostetes, who poisoned the arrow with the venom of the snake that bit him, also on the ankle, this is a reference to Orion, from whose ankle springs Eradinus, the red sea, or the red Serpent 🐍
@Uncanny Valley you know absolutely nothing about what you talk about
@Uncanny Valley Phoenicians are Canaanite and neither had the same calendar as the Celtic tribes not Celts or Assyrian
@Uncanny Valley the Egyptians didn't celebrate their new year at that time either and the Trojan war is a fact not a myth
Wasn't Nestor of Pylos present at both wars?
He didn't go to the Trojan war because he was too old.
Wonderful video. Thanky you for all your hard work.
Utterly fascinating.
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Or maybe the evolution of the Troy myth over centuries in the hands of different civilizations. There’s virtually no content on the Dares or Dictys versions of the Trojan War or the Medieval cycle of poems around it. Could be interesting to try to backtrack where those versions of the stories originated to shed some light on what may be earlier versions of the myth that are now lost.
Medieval sources will be heavily Christianized and not worth the time to dissect
@@Texasmade74 I understand the impracticality of it, of course. And understand there probably isnt enough historicsl value to spend so much time studying snd dissecting it.
But doesn't mean that the medieval sources aren't interesting for those who enjoy the stories. Nor does it dismiss the potential entertainment value they still hold
If you are interested in the pre-Homeric stories related to Troy and the Trojan War, check out the work of the late Martin West.
@MyrmidonMuscle one more thing the Trojan war is a fact not a myth
Such a fascinating, little-understood period. Enjoying these very much!
My one thought on this is about Heracles. I get the impression that the Greeks were rather misinformed about their history, with much of it being jumbled together incoherently in their myths. There are several flood/destruction myths. The attribution of this expedition to the mythical figure is dubious in my view, notwithstanding the ancientness of the source. Don't quite know how to justify this. I just get the feeling like the real mythical Heracles, who I think did exist, may have existed many thousands of years earlier. Maybe he was a 'Pelasgian' or some other kind of 'proto'-Greek.
Well done and well researched. I did not know the specifics of the earlier war at all. I knew Troy had been attacked and defeated several times and there is that famous treaty between the Hittites and Troy. Just one thing, the City of Troy was much closer to the sea during that period so the control of the Dardanelles was easier and very important to every major player in the region.
Omg this sounds very interesting ! Seems good to become movie also this subject!
Thank you for your support! More videos on this period are coming!
A movie on the myth, (that is probably the distortion of an echo of some historical event since the cold War that opposed in western Anatolia some mycenaean state and hittites for the control of the vassal states and millawanda, miletus,) with historical costumes, historical set, and so on its ok. A remake of Troy, an Hollywood movie with strange armors, equipment, and other unhistorical things no please. Even if tell about the myth, it is a myth in the bronze age, so let's make at least the costumes historical, the armors, the dresses, the cities, and so on. It's not difficult... Only a few historical research by the producers.
In this sense I find much more historical the odyssey with bekim femiu, the old 60' movie, than Troy... The costumes aren't ofc historical in these old movie, but the movie itself, the general looking, the atmosohere give really the idea of a primitive archaic Mediterranean, of a society that existed previously than our, previously of our classic greek Latin based society, and most of all of a dying world, at his dusk, where everything is overthrown, the kings power, the states, where strange unknown new peoples appear, and so on. Even if not historical, these old movies like the odissey with bekim femiu have all the elements of the bronze age collapse in their atmosphere. The Mediterranean apocalypse. The scene of Ulysses desperate, that know he will come back "late and bad, without ships, without companions, in a foreign vessel.." and of the aristeia, when he slain the nobles that occupy his palace, give really the idea of the mycenaean society, where the blood feud was present and practiced, just look the history of atreus and thyestes...of aegystus, klitemnestra, agamemnon, blood call blood. Because he know that returning without his men, the peoples will ask for that, (after the slain of the procii, he should defend himself from the relatives too coming to revenge, but I guess laertes calm down everyone, and in the assembly many ask why their sons are all dead, why he come back without booty, and so on.) These are all element of a society like the mycenaean one, it recall very much the megaron and the peoples assembly with the Lawagetas.
So Hercules was a king and this was the second time it was sacked
Do the more of Hercules
Heracles was a Dorian, not an Achaian
Thanks for stepping by. Heracles was much celebrated among Dorians but mostly because of his successors Heracleids. He befriended a Dorian king who then gave a third of his kingdom to Heracles' son Hyllus, who then became a Dorian leader (formation of the Heracleidae etc). But Heracles himself was technically not a Dorian, instead being related to the Achaean royal house in Mycenae.
Correct. Herakles joined Jason and the Argonauts. By that time Achaeans were rules of the Greece but there's not much of difference between Achaeans and Dorians. Same people, race, language, origins, worship, customs..
Actually no, Heracles was no Dorian. His succesors the "Heraclidae" were supposed to be the leaders of the Dorians but they themselves considered to be of "Achaean" ("Mycenaean") origin. The same for the royal house of Sparta who considered themselves Heracles descendants. Thats why when king Cleomenes I of Sparta tried to enter the temple of Athena during his visit to Athens, the Godesse's priestess initialy forbade him to enter the temple because "no Dorian was allowed to enter" and then Cleomenes responded to her "That his was no Dorian but of Achaean origin" (Herodotus 5, 72.3) because the royal house of Sparta descended from Heracles himself. So Heracles was Achaean but no Dorian.
Why don’t we ever see a movie about Heracles sacking Troy, And letting Priam live.
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amazing
can't wait tbh
Very good
Another amazing video thank you! My question is: do you know the time of the lifespan of Herakles? It is been said that it is known that he was a real person and not a myth. Is there any proof of the date of his birth and death? I have no reason to doubt his actual existence as I believe many of the heroes were real people. Too many specific events leads me to believe they are in fact real.
The basis of many greek myths are in fact rooted in real historical events, tho due to time, lost information and influence of other myths and stories most of them end up being distorted.
For what I've remember, the historical Heracles may had been some sort of mercenary/warlord/lesser king, that was used and sent to maintain order and invade territories by other more powerful greek kings around the years 1380-1300 b.c. (Saint Jerome and others said 1264-1226 b.c.) and that he lived for about 60 years, and was a really strong men of average height according to sources. Because of his renown and fame, after his death he was idealized and syncretised to the point that he became a god. There is no evidence but its believe this could be the real man behind the myth
Other myths that were real events but are completely distorted are:
- The rapture of Europa by Zeus (which in reality was an invasion of the Minoans to Phoenicia, that ended in the rapture of many people especially phoenician women that were brought to the island of Crete)
- Theseus vs Minotaur (which has been now believed to be a real fight between Theseus or an Athenian nobleman, against a general of king "Minos", named or titled Tauro, for the payment of tributes, and that the labyrinth was in fact the palace of Knossos)
- Jason and the Argonauts (which in now known to be a real greek expedition to today's Georgia, aimed to retrieve one of these golden fleeces, that ended up being a technique of gold panning using sheepskin that was later brought to Greece)
- Theban Cycle and The Trojan War (that now are believed to be an exaggeration and romanticization of historical political events regarding the lives of many royal families that span for many centuries, all clumped together for easier understanding and explanation)
He was poisoned by his wife.
Herakles was born 90 years before the fall of Homeric Troy and died about 65 years later.
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Well, actually it was more like 2 or 3 genetations earlier: "Priam", as a young teen/man is the only surviving male member of his family, and therefore assumes the throne: THEN he engages in several marriages with political implications...THEN he starts having numerous children...THEN Paris is born, rejected by his parents, and left to die, but, ultimately, raised by a stanger in the hills...THEN as an adult, he is present at the wedding of ? and Thetis, who then gives birth the Achilles, who must grow up to be a young adult to be a 'warrior'; he must have needed some time to gain experience and some repute (otherwise, he would not have been sought after as the Acheans marshalled forces; a process that could easily have taken months, and then, it's clear that they spent at least several more months [perhaps a year, or more, as it becomes a crisis, and a threat to the entire endeavor.] waiting in the western Aegean, for the winds to change!), and THEN they sail off to the wrong place (an island) and attack the wrong people...before they finishing sailing east to the mainland, attacking several cities in essentially searching for Helen, Paris, or Priam, but, also, they are pillaging to support themselves...so it's really at least a year, if not more, before they arrive at 'Wilusa' for their final siege.
This attack & siege is NOT a surprise: the defenders have had ample time to stock up on supplies, and send out messengers to call for help/reinforcements from their allies, and they have a secure water source; so there is really no reason to doubt that they could have held out for years, and it's not unlikely that there were some successful efforts to resupply, to extend the duration. (Of course the ;ten years" could be some exaggeration for dramatic effect; remember: all of "Homer's" work is composed for a live oratory performance!), but, either way, this whole deal takes years; probably, 3 to 4 at a minimum; I am inclined to believe that the the "10 years" is more from the time Queen Helen leaves Sparta (remember, SHE is the queen OF Sparta; and not jusr a queen, but regarded, by some, as a Demi-goddess!, whereas, Menelaus is just Agamemnon's brother who 'married well', and he isn't even THERE when Helen departs Sparta (whether willingly, or under duress): he had sailed off to Crete, so he doesn't find out for some time; and then must sail back, and get to Mycenaea to consult his brother!)
So, CLEARLY, the "Fall of Troy" happens more like 40-50 years after being sacked by Heracles, and Hector both must be closer to 40 years old than 30, and probably Paris, as well!
The Ilyiad doesn't really talk much about Hector's family but there is mention of a small son (not a newborn), so that removes the question of Hector, the heir-apparent, being so old without 'continuing the line'.
Whether Paris had children is even less important (remember, the Ilyad was written from the perspective of the Acheans.), though it's conceivable that, as sort of a side-effect of his 'rejection' at birth, and salvation by non-family, his loyalty to the family is somewhat less intense than one has seen elsewhere, and this could be manifest by his delay in interest in marriage and supporting a family to begin with: remember, he isn't 'returned to the fold' until he is quite grown!
And, also, he was in a society where polygamy was acceptable for the ruling class, so, being already married, and even having children, wouldn't be an obstacle to his interest in Helen (who, BTW, was a DEMIGODDESS!), and any other wives and children that Paris might have had, really don't factor into the story.
So Heracles could be a historical perso n, Right? Did the Hittites quote relate something about?
You should do a video about Jason and the argonauts and their quest for the golden fleece
Interesting recount of what is available from surviving sources. One day, we will lead time team expeditions to record the "true truth" of history, eh? I nominate you as one of the companions to investigate the Late Broze Age collapse.
so if this is authentic then Heracles plays an important part in history
Herakles is mentioned in the 14th century BCE for the first time I think so yes definitely possibly historical
The Achaeans got the upper hand because with the ships sailing away there was no turning back, thus they were motivated to fight The Trojans harder. When Cortez reached The New World, he burnt his ships, and the stress of no turning back made the conquistadors a more effective, and courageous fighting force.
Was trade with the black sea, including grains from the Krim, already an issue in those early times?
Great channel continuing to produce great videos but please stick to saying BC & AD ..
if it’s not broken don’t try & fix it 👍
6:22 Money was invented at the border of Lydia (which included the region where Troy has existed much earlier) and the achean part of the southwestern Asia Minor "corner" much later, in the 7th century (by Lydians and Greeks in cooperation, the lydian king Kroesus profiting initially the most, in the 6th century BC).
But according to greek Myth, Laomedon has invented money already in the 13th century BC in Troy. According to another version of above story, the deal with Herakles, was to be paid in money, a new gadget, for which the achean hero has shown special interest. He supposedly accepted the challenge to kill the sea-monster, just for the fun of getting paid with money, instead of anything else. Also in this version, the price was denied to him, so, he promised revenge...
Since Troy was a trade-hub-competitor of Mycene, I suppose, that the Trojans have really invented some sort of casino-chips, for the comfort of all the foreign traders, who would arrive in the city for their business (and not for general use by the trojan citizens!!!). This supposedly gave them an economic boost, that made the Acheans envy them. The trojan war at the end, was maybe just an expedition to learn more about the secrets of Numismatic.
According to myth, the promised riches of Troy were non-existent, and the Acheans left much poorer than they´ve arrived. Maybe that is, because the wealth of Troy laid in its Numismatic-know-how, and not in material wealth. And maybe the trojan specialists were killed, so that the Acheans never came to learning enough about Numismatic.
Later, the Lydians would conquer the Region, make it the central region of ther kingdom, and invent Money. It´s still funny, that money was invented in the 7th century in Lydia, while far older greek myths mention, that it were invented far earlier at the same place (it not yet being called Lydia). That means, that greek myths tell more about it, than archeologists have been able to discover yet.
Both Homer's and Lydian's money is of little importance because it has no exchange value.
It is more of a wealth preservation coin.
Something unique happens in the Greek city-states, the currencies of the city-states are exchanged between them for equivalents, this was done by the holy temples or by private individuals who were also the first bankers of the states of Corinth, Aegina, Athens, Argos, Thebes, Ephesus, Chalkida etc. of the same nationality, for this reason their coins were recognized and exchanged.
In another system of government, e.g. B. with the Lydians or Phrygians, this was of course not possible because there can be no equal exchange.
There were also checks between the various temples in the area so that one did not have to carry the merchants' money in physical form.
We also have today the first financial rights, the so-called options, which were the usual method of building and trading ships.
The first fans to ensure both the management of financial assets and the security of fares were the sophists Αntisthenes the Passionist, etc..
But the most important thing is that all this is regulated by the relevant legislation
One such lawyer was Lysias, who described such financial disputes in his works.
@@panagiotis7946 I won´t disagree with you. Even the mythical trojan money of Laomedon, Hector´s grandfather, if it existed, I imagine, that its use was limited to the port-hub part of Troy, not accesible or usable by the population, and limited in its use, only to the foreign and local traders meeting there... Similar to casino-jetons, but in a different mode of use. This would have been a big plus in prefering Troy over Mycene as a trade-hub.
Check out my Iliad series if you like the Bronze Age.
I think you made another video on the Troad and you mentioned that the kings name was Alexandu a name we all know as Alexander. I’m glad you know what the names of the historical kings are.
It looks like Ionia came at the same time as Mycenae because they are there on the coast of Asia, minor, and they are the descendants of Javan, son of Iapetus, known as Japheth in the Bible, and in the Bible, Greece is known as Javan , it’s also close to the Cyclopedes.
So based on the legend of Heracles and the timing of this, and the previous battles in Anatolia that this is the real historical Heracles sacking Troy.
This could be accurate. I’m pretty sure Heracles was born around 1255 bc, if you add up the life spans of his ancestors, like his mother and his grandmother, he could probably get a good timeline of the previous kings of Argus Mycenae tiryns and connected to Cadmus who built Thebes when was the progenitor of some of the Olympian gods and demigods, who can be connected to his father Canaan from the Bible. There’s a pretty good chronological history of the sons of Noah, including Ham, and his son Canaan or some say that Noah’s fourth son was Canaan and that is why he was cursed. So let’s say Agénor is Canaan who is the father of Cadmus the legendary figure who built Thebes, and is the progenitor of some of the Olympian Dietes.
I think about Greek mythology and Noah and ham is that they have the worldwide flood in the Greek mythology with Deucalion as Noah, and the actually include one of Noah’s sons named Iapetus, who was really Japheth the progenitor of the Greek world the father of Javan who was the next progenitor of one of the Greek nationalities? The Ionians with his son ion? Anyways, it culminates in the son of Alexander the Great something like 2000 years later. The Greeks were truly a great people bc
Is there any possibility the Iliad is completely fiction based on the half fiction of the Heracles story? Both have a demigod and unique horse/s
perhaps the leader of the attack was not THE Heracles and just someone with the same name. I don't think Heracles would have needed to go back and raise an army. Heracles would have done something like diverted a river to screw up the Trojan's crops or he might have found a local monster , dragged it to the gates of Troy "Ok pay up or I let this thing loose"
I suggest that this war you describe really was the real Trojan war. Troy's walls were destroyed by earthquake in 1250BCE, so the events of the Iliad must have occurred earlier than than. The Iliad ends with the death of Hector and the return of Helen, not with the destruction of the city. The events were mythologized a century later, during the actual Bronze Age collapse. (I will suggest "Helen" is a euphemism for enslaved Greek women, captured to work in Troy's fabric factories. That is why Helen was "stolen" and not simply a run-away.)
Heracles is a euphemism for "the Mycenaean army"
Hercules, Horus, Thoth, Apollo, Imhotep, Pan, Melqart, Asclepius, Moses, Jesus*
It's the Constellation Hercules
@@uncannyvalley2350 - Yes, ultimately, Heracles' stories were incorporated into the constellation cycle stories, that all Indo-Europeans shared. But I think there are some actual true stories within the myth. I think Heracles was a Dorian legion within the Mycenaean army. They were tributes sent by vassal Dorian tribes in Thessaly. Hence - those who honor Hera (Mycene's primary god).
So the Illiad was really part 2?
Little known fact? According to Greek legend... wow
We don't know in Greece nothing for our relationships whith Hittites. I found a treasure video! Know i really know why we went to Troy!
How the hell Did they do that yet it too so much more later on
The troyan war was they say atound 1600bc
Perseus founded Mycenae
Tray is Known for its horses
Most famed war kurukhestra war:imma put eyes into your dirt homie
It has not been proven that Illyon was in Anatolia at all
My reading says that they are 90% sure that Hisarlik is the site. What have you read that says differently?
Is this authentic
Erakles = Nimrud ..... ! *
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Huh Hercules sack troy then Pria. Became king that's intresting
Good try, but the chronology is wrong, some of the interpretations of the facts are are dated, and there are unsupported assumptions being made here. The author should have read his sources more carefully and kept up with the current scholarship. (For example, to the extent there maybe a kernel of truth to the Heracles legend, it may relate to a much earlier conflict in the late 15th century BC. The same can be said of the Bellerophon myth.) But as I said, not a bad effort.
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Does any of you know what the word Troy means? Didn't think so. Its a land mass. A royal square mile. It's like saying an Acre today. Its not in Greek. It's in Albanian. Just an FYI. So are all the names of the rulers of Troy. Sorry bud you haven't done your homework. You're telling a bed time story
03:53 Achaean territory? I couldn't stand to watch further.
The Trojans weren’t hittites exactly, they were Greeks of Anatolia, the hitting were further east
They were dardanos’ offspring. Dardanos himself was from the peloponnes. The trojans were part achaean, part minor asian (phrygian, mysian, etc.)
Trojan hittite achean conflict of bronze age europe is very similar to today's Russia and Ukraine conflict (supported by USA and nato).
Troyans were Greeks, not Hittites. Thumbs down for getting this basic fact wrong.
Trojans were a Turkic tribe ( Etruscans) as per some contemporary discussions.
Can some one explain to to me this current use of BCE, as opposed to BC and AD , or are we just allowing those who cannot accept what happened, and allow them to change the accepted views to suit their own sorrowful ideology. These are people who refuse for what ever reason to acknowledge history, yes there are anomalies, as with all history, but this period is one of the written about times. If you do not believe in God why have you decided on BCE, in fact you have admitted in your use of BCE that something did occur, I just love academic`s that will do what ever to further careers even in the face of evidence. This is my own opinion, I am not a religious person but one who still believes in God and hopefully my redemption.
Greek mythology??You mean Greek religion and Greek traditions and there's almost no evidence for Jesus in the capacity of the Bible yet you so brazenly dismiss Herakles yet blindly accept Jesus as fact 😂😂😅😅
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All Turkish culture nothing to do with Greece or anywhere even before ancient Egyptians
I'm really in love with the niche nature of this channel, it resonates with my own interests so much.
Really enjoying your content, thanks for your work dude!
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