5 New Reveals About Interstellar Travel in Kerbal Space Program 2

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  • @cejic2199
    @cejic2199 2 роки тому +806

    ksp 2 is like death. you don’t think about it often, but it’s coming and it’ll either be the greatest thing thats happened to you or the worst.

    • @cejic2199
      @cejic2199 2 роки тому +100

      ok that was grim but u get the point

    • @Leo-gk4ue
      @Leo-gk4ue 2 роки тому +61

      Well, that's a pretty unfortunate metaphor, but yes, it gets to the point

    • @theturtle5591
      @theturtle5591 2 роки тому +6

      I feel like there was a better way to say you’re skeptical...

    • @cheddar2648
      @cheddar2648 2 роки тому +30

      @@theturtle5591 The skeptic is either smugly correct or happily surprised.

    • @mastershooter64
      @mastershooter64 2 роки тому +1

      lol imagine dying, cringe

  • @dalmationblack
    @dalmationblack 2 роки тому +570

    I really hope that they have telescopes so the campaign can make us launch JWST-style missions to find the systems we can explore later on. That would be really cool if you actually unlocked new areas by discovering them with telescopes.

    • @crowateyourmemes5496
      @crowateyourmemes5496 2 роки тому +39

      like the mod ResearchBodies? one of my favorites for magnifying that sense of discovery.

    • @stefansmiljanic1697
      @stefansmiljanic1697 2 роки тому +6

      Yeah and it would be intresting to have different tipes of telescopes that could have different ranges and utilities

    • @quaggykiwi8557
      @quaggykiwi8557 2 роки тому +9

      @Genaro Scala that sounds so fun, especially with interstellar, getting to progress all the way from the earliest planes to interstellar colonization

    • @quaggykiwi8557
      @quaggykiwi8557 2 роки тому

      @Genaro Scala whats the mod called? i need to check that out

    • @kerbodynamicx472
      @kerbodynamicx472 2 роки тому +2

      I imagine that it would work like this
      Most stars are visible from game start ( from ground telescopes )
      Dim stars, stars hidden behind a nebula/dust cloud, and dead stars requires a space telescope to discover them. Space telescopes can also determine the number of planets (the surveying time is dependent on the planets orbital period)
      Details of each planet would have to be determined by a exploration mission to that system, or by a mega telescope back in the Kerbol system.

  • @SpainSpace
    @SpainSpace 2 роки тому +299

    Man I just can't wait. KSP2 is promising to be THE GAME. The game we all dreamed of when playing KSP 1.
    It's going to be the first game I preorder the second they allow us to.

    • @RamenPoweredShitFactory
      @RamenPoweredShitFactory 2 роки тому +67

      Never preorder a game ever. Doesn't matter how promising it is. I can't believe people haven't learned this yet.

    • @mindrelic
      @mindrelic 2 роки тому +24

      @@RamenPoweredShitFactory no reason not to pre order it if you know that you'll be buying the game anyways. I wont be waiting for reviews for this one, i know ill be buying it regardless of what anyone says about it after launch

    • @tommybates1976
      @tommybates1976 2 роки тому +5

      @@RamenPoweredShitFactory even if it sucks, every one will play out of reverence for the origanal

    • @RamenPoweredShitFactory
      @RamenPoweredShitFactory 2 роки тому +19

      @@mindrelic You always wait for reviews before buying a game.

    • @indeepjable
      @indeepjable 2 роки тому +8

      reviews arent allways the most reliable though

  • @Lexyvil
    @Lexyvil 2 роки тому +27

    What I love in KSP 1 is the Career mode, where you start with a low-budget program, and work your way in making more manageable missions. I hope the technology behind interstellar travel in the sequel won't be so easy to unlock, for a knack of challenge.

    • @44R0Ndin
      @44R0Ndin Рік тому

      KSP 1 career is all over the place conceptually, and offers an utterly incoherent experience.
      Because if you want to launch a grand tour mission in career, you gotta pay for it.
      And that means doing literally the same thing over and over and over (aka "grind out money"), and if I personally hear the word "grind" used to describe an aspect of gameplay for a certain game, that's a sure-fire way to get me to NEVER touch it.
      KSP 1 is a sandbox game at heart, the rest of the stuff feels very "tacked on".
      KSP 2 promises a much more integrated and synergistic (aka sane) approach to part unlocking progression mechanics, and that's something I'm very interested in.
      Plus they've said that they're entirely removing any concept of "money", instead you'll only be limited by the resources you have available (not sure if that's a thing on Kerbin or not, but it's FOR SURE a thing on a colony you set up).
      Basically, everyone should be able to do something they find rewarding in KSP 2 without having to "grind out some arbitrary resource that's only there to limit your options in the first few launches but doesn't ever get removed" (aka money), which is a much better way to do things.

  • @mariasirona1622
    @mariasirona1622 2 роки тому +247

    What i'm worried about is ships i'm not controlling, that are conducting burns. How can i make sure they do exactly the burn they're supposed to, without me controlling? I could accidentally time-warp over that.

    • @ShadowZone
      @ShadowZone  2 роки тому +155

      Surely there will be something similar to the alarm clock feature we already have as stock in KSP1. Otherwise I agree with you, this could result in a lot of headaches.

    • @fernandocardia1776
      @fernandocardia1776 2 роки тому +64

      Best case: you tell the engines to burn for x time and they stop after that.
      Middle case: you tell the engines to burn and set up an alarm clock that will warn you when it's time to stop the burn.
      Worst case: Alarm clock doesn't make it into the game from KSP 1 and we will need to wait for someone to mod it in.

    • @Halengar-o7
      @Halengar-o7 2 роки тому +25

      @@ShadowZone an alarm clock was already confirmed by someone on the forums i forget if it was nate or kspstar

    • @romanlalach
      @romanlalach 2 роки тому +13

      What I Have gathered is that you might be able to create a mission plan depending on the route and have the ship automously preform a bunch of burns while you could do other things.

    • @teslainvestah5003
      @teslainvestah5003 2 роки тому +15

      I think that in order for ships to burn while not focused, their burns won't be simulated at all, they'll be calculated from functions of time, like all orbital mechanics are in KSP 1. That would make it easy for KSP 2 to allow scheduled burns that are 100% accurate to the predicted result of the burn, because the trajectory lines and the motion of the craft are calculated by the exact same equation, just like a simple orbital path in KSP 1.
      In fact, if anything gets cut from the first version of KSP 2 because they're short on time, I think that thing will probably be manual control of interstellar engine burns. They're probably starting with automatic/scheduled interstellar burns and working "backwards" to allow us to view or control those burns as if they are a normal physics simulation, when really they're not. At least, that's how I would do it.

  • @fizzyballast
    @fizzyballast 2 роки тому +34

    one of the reasons I love the dev episodes are that one of you're videos always comes after!

    • @oliver2593
      @oliver2593 2 роки тому

      I guess Scott Manley will need to wait until you take a few extra years. Maybe stop making videos and make the game . you get paid for time a assume. maybe you should want the game that was promised august 2020 and not a video about it.

  • @puroktahzeeb9355
    @puroktahzeeb9355 2 роки тому +65

    6:33 this system probably also works for the supply chain system, so that there will actually be several rockets delivering cargo and transporting people in the system that you can actually see instead of magically teleporting to their destination, I wonder if they can also land in atmospheres on there own too

    • @oliver2593
      @oliver2593 2 роки тому

      I guess Scott Manley will need to wait until you take a few extra years. Maybe stop making videos and make the game . you get paid for time a assume. maybe you should want the game that was promised august 2020 and not a video about it.

    • @fryingpan37
      @fryingpan37 2 роки тому +1

      @@oliver2593 we do want the game but like what are we gonna do about it, also did you just come here to be negative?

  • @Bruh-ed7ry
    @Bruh-ed7ry 2 роки тому +237

    Will you do a series on Ksp 2 when it comes out? Maybe you can do a series reviewing everything that is new. Maybe you can do a beginners guide. In the end it up to you but it would be interesting to see what you might do.

    • @ShadowZone
      @ShadowZone  2 роки тому +139

      I will definitely do a lot of content as soon as I can get my hands on this game.

    • @Bruh-ed7ry
      @Bruh-ed7ry 2 роки тому +20

      @@ShadowZone looking forward to your future

    • @Bruh-ed7ry
      @Bruh-ed7ry 2 роки тому +3

      @@ShadowZone I also have a question for you. I have a ps5 but don’t have a pc. Should I be worried about how well Ksp 2 will run on my ps5?

    • @hey_how_are_ya
      @hey_how_are_ya 2 роки тому

      @@Bruh-ed7ry I wouldn’t worry much about that since a ps5 is as powerful as a high end pc

    • @carltheshivan
      @carltheshivan 2 роки тому +3

      @@Bruh-ed7ry You should be more worried about trying to play it with a console controller instead of with a mouse and keyboard.

  • @thememery767
    @thememery767 2 роки тому +26

    I went searching for the new ShadowZone video as soon as I finished watching the KSP one. To my utter dismay, it did not exist yet. Now my dreams have been fulfilled!

  • @ObviouslyAware
    @ObviouslyAware 2 роки тому +40

    I'm so glad they finally did another KSP2 teaser/giving us info

  • @MrDoggo23
    @MrDoggo23 2 роки тому +50

    If these clips are not just prerendered cutscenes, the reflections on the solar panels looks dope as hell.

    • @justdark863
      @justdark863 2 роки тому +16

      Assuming you are referring to the panels on the interstellar ships, those aren't solar panels. From a recent show and tell they've shown us that there's new procedural radiator parts

    • @davidmartinek5257
      @davidmartinek5257 2 роки тому +5

      Unity has ray tracing, so it's probably that (or a similar method). Hopefully, they will optimize the game once it's finished and add features like DLSS to help with performance. The clips they are showing are pretty laggy, but optimization is the final stage in the game production (often skipped or rushed these days due to time constraints). We can only hope.

  • @andrewlambdin8568
    @andrewlambdin8568 2 роки тому +58

    What would be really cool is if KSP had a story that you have to use your science progression to find. Such as an ancient alien civilization with hidden relics on some of the planets. Each solar system could have a different hidden story. For example, in one system, you would have to find X number of anomalies that are tied together which would point to coordinates to something amazing (almost like a puzzle to solve) with ways to interact with them (such as scanning an area with a rover arm to activate a hidden alien robot). This would give purpose to the "less interesting" planets (*ahem* Dres) as they would have some sort of anomaly that leads you deeper through the story.

    • @galfisk
      @galfisk 2 роки тому +18

      The artifacts in KSP1 were supposed to be linked by a story, but the guy doing them quit. It'd be cool if they did it in KSP2. The mysteries feature in Surviving Mars do something a bit like this.

    • @bad_pilot13official
      @bad_pilot13official 2 роки тому +6

      Maybe u can unlock more crazy parts to with this alien tech

    • @mastershooter64
      @mastershooter64 2 роки тому +5

      Time to make a story mode mod!!

    • @Muck006
      @Muck006 2 роки тому +1

      I really hope they include a "Surviving Mars" kind of simulation for colonising other planets, because Surviving Mars is a great concept but only as deep as a puddle from the gameplay perspective.
      They do have "mysteries" to solve ... which could be an easy inspiration for anyone trying to create a bunch of them for KSP 2.

  • @NonEuclideanTacoCannon
    @NonEuclideanTacoCannon 2 роки тому +11

    What blows my mind about this, is mastering the entirety of KSP 1, is just the beginning of KSP 2.

  • @cmdrpanorpa8631
    @cmdrpanorpa8631 2 роки тому +14

    With the variety of planets they are adding it seems likely there will be a water, or at least liquid focused world, so it isn't much of a stretch to thing aquatic exploration vehicles could be a thing.
    I imagine it is something that devs would want to add, since it gives a whole new dynamic and challenge of creating and transporting vehicles suitable to transit space, atmospheric, and liquid environments.

    • @makerofgarbage5877
      @makerofgarbage5877 2 роки тому

      My guess is there might be a DLC after release that adds boats and stuff

    • @bozo460
      @bozo460 2 роки тому +1

      @@makerofgarbage5877 like propellers to weak to do anything in the atmosphere but perfect for water, or a batista for controlling your buoyancy

  • @Phillibetrus
    @Phillibetrus 2 роки тому +40

    Any hope for native life support as an additional difficulty option? It would be cool to have to work that in to these interstellar ships.

    • @linecraftman3907
      @linecraftman3907 2 роки тому +4

      Colonies will have a boost from life support as far as we know

    • @mastershooter64
      @mastershooter64 2 роки тому +9

      lol imagine the final difficulty option after "very hard" was "irl" and like it's the solar system and near by star systems and everything is as realistic as possible

    • @Phillibetrus
      @Phillibetrus 2 роки тому +2

      @@mastershooter64 you can do that with mods in KSP but the mods don't always play nice together.

    • @oliver2593
      @oliver2593 2 роки тому

      I guess Scott Manley will need to wait until you take a few extra years. Maybe stop making videos and make the game . you get paid for time a assume. maybe you should want the game that was promised august 2020 and not a video about it.

  • @appropinquo3236
    @appropinquo3236 2 роки тому +18

    Something that i want to point out, when the devs said that they want to simulate planets for the entire time that the game is running. They probably didn't mean that the planets will be rendered (i.e shown in game) the entire time (that would be a nightmare), they probably just meant that the planets wont freeze in place when you get far enough away from them. Which definitely sounds more feasible.

    • @TlalocTemporal
      @TlalocTemporal 2 роки тому +3

      But also that all the vehicles in that system will still be orbiting, manoeuvring, drilling, constructing, and possibly launching automatically.

    • @appropinquo3236
      @appropinquo3236 2 роки тому +1

      @Tlaloc_Temporal I never thought of that, but I'm sure intercept is up to the task.

    • @paisis123
      @paisis123 2 роки тому +5

      @@TlalocTemporal Which makes sense if you want to add the Base Building Feature and AutoMatic Launchers

  • @Obi_Wan_Kenobi_027
    @Obi_Wan_Kenobi_027 2 роки тому +4

    “We will slay the kraken”
    Danny2462: *You will try*

    • @PetrPss
      @PetrPss 2 роки тому

      “We will slay the Kraken”
      Danny2462: "You will try"
      P.S. Oh, c'mon! You as Obi Wan Kenobi lost such an opportunity...

    • @Obi_Wan_Kenobi_027
      @Obi_Wan_Kenobi_027 2 роки тому +1

      @@PetrPss changing it right now

  • @billy4734
    @billy4734 2 роки тому +14

    I envy the play testers.
    Even if the game has less polish than a tree I still want to play it now!

  • @captainstroon1555
    @captainstroon1555 2 роки тому +13

    The Starliners we see at 11:51 and 14:48 seem like they have procedural radiators. I'm not sure if anything like this has been confirmed yet, but the radiators on those ships sure look that way.

    • @PuudingMusic
      @PuudingMusic 2 роки тому +4

      i think a month ago they released a dev log on twitter making procedural radiators

    • @deltuhvee
      @deltuhvee 2 роки тому

      Procedural radiators were confirmed and showcased in the last show and tell ua-cam.com/video/UlV2xXaJ0_w/v-deo.html

  • @swimspud
    @swimspud 2 роки тому +5

    “They have a physics engineer who has dealt with the kraken before” LOL

  • @mehreganzare7658
    @mehreganzare7658 2 роки тому +1

    oh, he was so enthusiastic about 2022... life hit us all hard

  • @awsumguy-bh9pz
    @awsumguy-bh9pz 2 роки тому +89

    if KSP 2 actually lives up to what it promises i imagine there will be mods that allow extragalactic travel

    • @cheddar2648
      @cheddar2648 2 роки тому +22

      Intercept Node in 1,024y

    • @44R0Ndin
      @44R0Ndin 2 роки тому +7

      @@cheddar2648 The milky way is roughly 105k light years wide.
      Scaling that down to fit the Kerbol system, you still get 10.5k light years.
      And the distances between galaxies are entirely of a different kind than the distances between stars, simply because of their scale.
      Also, who knows if the game engine will even be able to handle that. Intergalactic travel requires a further, and much larger, jump in precision, compared to interstellar travel.
      It's like trying to hit a particular grain of sand on a planet that's orbiting a star that's 100 ly away. I don't think I'm exaggerating that much there.
      Heck, even detecting planets that far by optical means is something only possible by measuring the "wobble" or dimming of the parent star, you can't image the planet directly at those distances because of diffraction.

    • @TheRojo387
      @TheRojo387 2 роки тому

      @@44R0Ndin Only because of the relative distances between galaxies for their size.

    • @44R0Ndin
      @44R0Ndin 2 роки тому +3

      ​@@TheRojo387 But that was my entire point, the distances involved are too great to be able to be traversed in a reasonable amount of time at sub-light speeds. You'd have to travel faster than light to travel between galaxies within the life-span of a human being, and considering that Kerbals are only "technically" aliens but are more of a relatable stand-in for a (when you start KSP 2) planet-spanning culture of beings that to me represent the best side of human being's desire to explore the unknown, I'd say the life-span of a Kerbal is only unknown because it's not simulated in KSP 1, not because they're somehow biologically immortal. In other words, I'm saying that Kerbals probably wouldn't live long enough for a vessel to travel between galaxies at sub-light speeds (or even at exactly the speed of light), simply because the distances are so stupendously large.
      And that's not even bringing in the accuracy issue I mentioned in my earlier post, which is another nail in the coffin for intergalactic travel.

    • @dafrandle
      @dafrandle 2 роки тому

      @@cheddar2648 you need to add about 5 zeros to that number

  • @Michael-jl9ne
    @Michael-jl9ne 2 роки тому +21

    I know for me, if KSP 2 doesn't have boats and submarines, I'll likely make a version of SunkWorks for KSP's successor. That, and kerbal flying saucers. :)

  • @runescapefan0001
    @runescapefan0001 2 роки тому +37

    Imagine if you made your first interstellar ship that would take decades to reach another star, sent it out, then in the meantime advanced your technology to make a second interstellar ship so fast it passed the first one.

    • @44R0Ndin
      @44R0Ndin 2 роки тому +3

      In that case you'd probably send the 2nd mission to an entirely different star system (there's going to be more than just one other star to visit).

    • @MrBluestar723
      @MrBluestar723 2 роки тому +1

      This also makes me wonder if career mode (assuming we have one) will have construction time in it, and if so whether or not it's togglable

    • @44R0Ndin
      @44R0Ndin 2 роки тому +7

      @@MrBluestar723 Somehow I doubt it. That's edging into the "too much realism makes fun into work" territory.

    • @Penfold101
      @Penfold101 2 роки тому +1

      Also known as ‘The Wait Calculation’ - it’s a real thing.

    • @44R0Ndin
      @44R0Ndin 2 роки тому +1

      @@Penfold101 The problem with the wait calculation is that you have the equation but you don't have the data because the way technological development seems to work is that we have no real clue when we'll get something done that we've been working for, just look at fusion power (it's been "10 years away" for the past 50 years or more), or even something like good virtual reality (we're only starting to get that, and yet we've been saying it's "right around the corner" for something like 20 years).
      So what I've resigned myself to is that any prediction that says something's more than 5 years out has no real idea how long it's going to be. Because in that long of a time period, you can have major setbacks and disruptions (like oh I don't know, a new disease causing a global pandemic for GOING ON 3 YEARS NOW?), or major leaps forward (like the sudden rise of social media becoming a part of daily living over the past 10 years when literally nobody was thinking of using the internet that way before then).
      So what I'm saying is that even if you can prove that whatever equation for "the wait calculation" is the best thing it can possibly be, it still needs data input, and that means you still have to deal with the fact that humans can't accurately predict their own progress.
      Put in much shorter terms, "Garbage In, Garbage Out". Slightly longer explanation, "If you start with bad data, you're going to end up with bad conclusions".

  • @dsdy1205
    @dsdy1205 2 роки тому +3

    6:08 I'm really excited for this, not just because it allows interstellar travel, but because Falcon 9 style reusable missions (and indeed all reusable missions where one stage is suborbital) become way easier to do than they are currently

  • @AlexSchendel
    @AlexSchendel 2 роки тому +2

    Always look forward to your recap videos on the ksp update videos. While I watch and process the videos, there's always a lot that I miss that you catch, so thank you for these!

  • @Pharry_
    @Pharry_ 2 роки тому +4

    So if this game is interstellar, that kind of gives the devs a perfect method of expanding the map whenever they want. It might not happen, but new star systems may be a great way to expand the game's content later on.

  • @GiulioVonKerman
    @GiulioVonKerman 2 роки тому +20

    Imagine having to wait for a transfer window to another star

    • @Gekiko7167
      @Gekiko7167 2 роки тому +3

      I don't think you will need to...

    • @theturtle5591
      @theturtle5591 2 роки тому +2

      Maybe there’ll be a big start or black hole or something in between, or like the original where I kinda just static.( I can say that it’s static since there is nothing to compare bla bla bla, I Hope there a giant kracken creating the gravity well to hole star systems.)

    • @GiulioVonKerman
      @GiulioVonKerman 2 роки тому +1

      @@Gekiko7167 you do, a galaxy is like a stellar system, just HUGE in comparison, so the place where the destination is matters, and the bigger the scale, the bigger the save/loss of DeltaV. A galaxy is somewhat comparable to a stellar system, with the stars being the planets and the planets being the moons. So yes, you have to wait for a transfer window if you want to be efficient, even on an interstellar perspective.

    • @captainyossarian388
      @captainyossarian388 2 роки тому +1

      Your initial relative velocity will be such a tiny fraction of what you'll need to reach a star in a reasonable amount of time that it won't matter, except maybe a gravity assist from Kerbol or Jool but again it will add a tiny amount of what you'll need.

    • @mastershooter64
      @mastershooter64 2 роки тому

      @@theturtle5591 I'm pretty sure you wont be caring about transfer windows because if you did you'd be dead lmao because the time it takes for our sun to go around the galaxy once is around 250 million years lmao so im pretty sure you dont wanna be efficient (that is if you're not a being that can live for billions of years) so you'd definitely point your craft towards the star and burn your engines till you get sufficient velocity (idk 50% or 75% the speed of light) then you coast, and then you decelerate

  • @dovaskarr
    @dovaskarr 2 роки тому +5

    I never preordered a game, always waited for a discount. I am so in love with KSP that I am buying it as soon as I can

  • @bingus2550
    @bingus2550 2 роки тому +4

    that ‘Hello everybody’ always makes my day, thanks dude!

  • @ZappDragonOG
    @ZappDragonOG 2 роки тому +11

    It would be so amazing if they added an actual kraken that would try to destroy your ships. As long as I could turn it on and off

    • @deeznutz-sk9nu
      @deeznutz-sk9nu 2 роки тому +2

      Most likeley not in the base game, but because we have wonderful modders, it can be a mod.

  • @daskampffredchen
    @daskampffredchen 2 роки тому +11

    I really hope they add an option to auto execute a manuveur. So that my Interstellar ship can burn while I do some Mun missions

    • @daskampffredchen
      @daskampffredchen 2 роки тому +2

      Ok. He answered it in the video. Glad they implemented it.Such a system would be tricky for modders

  • @tedwink6652
    @tedwink6652 2 роки тому +2

    one of features could be nice to see is: Auto deploy, basically you make an orbital launch of craft, and it will try to fly craft to same orbit with some bits of adapting, like you could do station on mun and send multiple ships to send supplies. however this feature have bigger questions about how interstellar flights would be done?

  • @hey_how_are_ya
    @hey_how_are_ya 2 роки тому +1

    16:39 I bet that was one of the most exciting interviews of your life. I know I would be excited to talk to Nate

  • @croweater78
    @croweater78 2 роки тому

    Yeah! wow, you undoubtedly have the wrap on all things KSP2. I'm a ksp fan and I am anticipating KSP2. I'm blown away at your insight in to KSP2. It's obviously a passion for you and your vids are amazing.. like you cover every facet of information in a timely and interesting way.

  • @michaelfarrell4824
    @michaelfarrell4824 2 роки тому +3

    Can't wait until some youtuber reaches orbit of another star using just decouplers

  • @nappalnation7877
    @nappalnation7877 2 роки тому +1

    Jebediah will go, where no kerbal has gone before

  • @alternatemusicaddict5226
    @alternatemusicaddict5226 2 роки тому +1

    Ok guys can’t wait till ksp3 when you can actually upload your consciousness into star systems across the universe

    • @Shoteaux2
      @Shoteaux2 2 роки тому +4

      we dont have ksp 2 and man wants ksp 3

  • @skyzip4k171
    @skyzip4k171 2 роки тому +1

    thank you for always posting videos! greetings from germany

  • @MrHichammohsen1
    @MrHichammohsen1 2 роки тому

    I was watching the new KSP2 video yesterday and thinking about how we would wait a month for a video and BAM here you go! We appreciate it thank you.

  • @skyearthocean5815
    @skyearthocean5815 2 роки тому +1

    Hypothesis, the kracken will be a real and intentional thing in KSP2, probably like a final boss you have to deal with on a distant galexy.

  • @guiltyofbias8818
    @guiltyofbias8818 2 роки тому +9

    Given that all the footage is apparently pre alpha I'm fully expecting this game to release in 2025.

    • @2KOOLURATOOLGaming
      @2KOOLURATOOLGaming 2 роки тому +7

      Over the course of these info releases, I think I've seen now that the back-end is finished, the graphics and visuals are being combined and the game is taking shape. The first rocket launch they showed looked horrendous and was "pre-alpha". Then in the latest dev video there is an amazing looking atmosphere scatter which is also labelled "pre-alpha" so I wouldn't think anything of the labelling for now. Do be worried if it is 2 months from release and the footage still says alpha lol.

    • @-Gorby-
      @-Gorby- 2 роки тому +3

      I was thinking the same thing, that we'll get an Early Access release in December 2022 at best

    • @T11235
      @T11235 2 роки тому +7

      They might be using that label anyway to not hype too much the fans

    • @theturtle5591
      @theturtle5591 2 роки тому +2

      Jokes on them, we’re all in denial.

  • @AzureImperium7701X
    @AzureImperium7701X 2 роки тому +1

    The kraken can not be killed!

  • @eekee6034
    @eekee6034 2 роки тому +1

    I do enjoy these videos. :) I don't often say so because I'm always thinking of facts and possibilities rather than feelings, things rather than people, but I was delighted to see the thumbnail and immediately put it on my "Watch ASAP" list. I wasn't disappointed. On to the things... :)
    Perspective is tricky. Having a head for shapes and having been something of a 3D artist for many years, I'm looking at 2:54 and thinking the engine bell is more like 40 meters, but that's still huge. :) One thing I might do is take a screenshot and overlay lines onto the big girder to see how the perspective changes the scale over the length of the ship. I'm thinking this might work better if I wasn't so tired and if I still had a 4k screen.
    That bit about a star being visible the whole way is certainly possible. It's done by universe simulators - I had one of those on a 286! :) The trick is to change how the star is rendered at different distances. It helps a lot that it can be reduced to a simple point light source for most of the journey. Of course, the 286 rendered stars up close as simple circles, but even for a far more powerful computer, a simple circle is appropriate for a certain range of distances. It's also appropriate for the planets at certain distances.
    _BUT_ all this unquestionably creates some extra points of complexity in an already very complex game.

  • @evanoggs5863
    @evanoggs5863 2 роки тому +5

    did you guys notice the ship at the end of the feature episode de-coupling by itself? what if they are implementing an autopilot system or something, that would fly the ship and do burns and do manuveurs for you whilst you work on other things? I'd assume it would be a late game part in the tech tree, but it would be pretty cool.

    • @tophatsurgeon7469
      @tophatsurgeon7469 2 роки тому +2

      I don't even think you'd need it to be a late game technology; I could imagine a KOS style autopilot, whereby you need to plan out your mission in advance; so the limit of how automated the autopilot is isn't an arbitrary tech limit, but rather how skilled/bothered you are to use the system; in the early game you fly most of your missions manually; as you gain experience with the autopilot system, you can start automating routine missions (I.e, cargo flights), until you reach a point where you have enough experience to setup the autopilot for interstellar missions.

    • @johnlivelys
      @johnlivelys 2 роки тому

      If you watch all the last clips of all the update videos they all have been a rocket launching from kerbin and it’s now about to go down and land at the moon

    • @eekee6034
      @eekee6034 2 роки тому

      It would be realistic if it was mid- or even early-game, depending on quite where the tech tree starts. ;)

    • @polarbearirish
      @polarbearirish 2 роки тому

      I've seen people saying this is essentially a "countdown" to launch date. Each ending of these dev vids has been a different stage of the min landing. With launch date being announced when it "lands"

  • @mekaerwin7187
    @mekaerwin7187 2 роки тому +5

    For a game that could come out this year, there is still precious little footage that represents actual gameplay. Mostly just glamor renders that may or may not be effected by physics. At least one shot was of a burning vessel with a little wobble.

    • @sclarin2
      @sclarin2 2 роки тому

      I feel the same way I don't think we will see this game until 2023 and MAYBE it will be worth the wait

    • @Costelad
      @Costelad 2 роки тому

      I’d imagine that for a sandbox game that once you’re at the “things working in a physics grid” stage, then you’re most of the way there.

  • @Bretoniac
    @Bretoniac 2 роки тому +2

    Due to the difficulty of building in orbit, and the dev teams focus on accuracy, OAB might stand for Orbital Assembly Bay

  • @therealspeedwagon1451
    @therealspeedwagon1451 2 роки тому +5

    I’m just excited to see how people are gonna break the game when it comes out. I’m sure they’ll be someone out there who finds a way to make interstellar travel quicker and broadcasts it onto UA-cam

  • @oystercatcher943
    @oystercatcher943 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for keeping my interest up. I haven’t played KSP for a good while. I will be getting KSP2 though since KSP is the best ever ‘game’

  • @setaindustries
    @setaindustries 2 роки тому +1

    I love how speculative you got with those end credits shots haha

  • @hey_how_are_ya
    @hey_how_are_ya 2 роки тому +2

    Let’s say that ksp 2 launch is like “no mans sky” I bet everything will be ok because the teams passion towards the game will keep it alive

    • @BubblegumDog_
      @BubblegumDog_ 2 роки тому

      NMS was independently released though, so the KSP2 dev team ultimately has no say in how long they get to work on it.

    • @TestECull
      @TestECull 2 роки тому

      lol No Man's Sky was hot garbage on launch.

    • @BubblegumDog_
      @BubblegumDog_ 2 роки тому +1

      @@TestECull I think what they meant is that if it's like No Mans Sky. The launch could be shit, but they could improve it and not give up on it, just like the No Mans Sky dev team.

    • @hey_how_are_ya
      @hey_how_are_ya 2 роки тому

      @@BubblegumDog_ that is exactly what is was saying.

  • @axelord4ever
    @axelord4ever 2 роки тому +5

    One of the things I noticed in the newest video is the inclusion of a LOT of parts from Nertea's Near Future mod suite.

    • @linecraftman3907
      @linecraftman3907 2 роки тому +3

      Well nertea is working on the game lol

    • @axelord4ever
      @axelord4ever 2 роки тому +5

      @@linecraftman3907 Indeed he is. I just didn't expect to just see his parts being ported 1:1 into KSP2 and featured so prominently in a featurette.

  • @unheilbargut
    @unheilbargut Рік тому +1

    The „slaying the kraken“ part didn‘t age well. 😂

  • @hugoandre96
    @hugoandre96 2 роки тому +8

    Would be pretty cool if they have a real engine that worked or had a description to the docking port kraken drive

    • @bluemongoose7765
      @bluemongoose7765 2 роки тому +1

      yeah that would be awsome, like the last engine in the tech tree or something that just says "Kraken Drive", like a fun endgame easter egg.

  • @zaphods2ndhead193
    @zaphods2ndhead193 2 роки тому +4

    To be honest, I am not a person who really like multiplayer games. That is one of the things I love about KSP. I am free to be creative and explore on my own. If they end up having that functionality, fine, but I won't use it. If they never have it I will be fine. If you can only play multiplayer I will move on to something new.

    • @l1ghtd3m0n3
      @l1ghtd3m0n3 2 роки тому

      Having only multiplayer would be counterintuitive.

    • @zaphods2ndhead193
      @zaphods2ndhead193 2 роки тому

      @@l1ghtd3m0n3 Agreed but that exact thing has happened to other games in the past. I think it HIGHLY unlikely here.

    • @Brandon-vu3kn
      @Brandon-vu3kn 2 роки тому

      How would multiplayer even work? Trying to maneuver a delicate space station docking…. 100,000x time because the other player is shooting to another star system

    • @HadzabadZa
      @HadzabadZa 2 роки тому

      Just host a server with only you as a player, duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

    • @l1ghtd3m0n3
      @l1ghtd3m0n3 2 роки тому

      @@HadzabadZa Modern problems require modern solutions

  • @jeff3388
    @jeff3388 2 роки тому

    This is the first game I've been excited for for some time, thanks for your hard work

  • @ArthurMorgan....
    @ArthurMorgan.... 2 роки тому +1

    i knew you would release a video about it as soon as possible

  • @versinussyrin577
    @versinussyrin577 2 роки тому +1

    I just started the regular old KSP...
    I already modded it to hell and started playing science
    I have been dreaming to play this game for soo long that I can't even tell
    I am waiting for KSP 2 so much

  • @CupcakesLanders
    @CupcakesLanders 2 роки тому

    Excellent analysis as always. 🧐

  • @mindrelic
    @mindrelic 2 роки тому +2

    they should hire you and Scott Manley to do voice overs!

  • @ChongiFishing
    @ChongiFishing 2 роки тому

    3:28 That sent shivers down my spine, I pray to the Kerbal gods that doesn't happen.

  • @jaredw43
    @jaredw43 2 роки тому

    Awww man I just got so excited watching this!

  • @drewpeacock3404
    @drewpeacock3404 2 роки тому

    It's always a good day when the shadow zone uploads!!

  • @happythoughts01
    @happythoughts01 2 роки тому +1

    I wonder if there will be ailiens or plants on other planets.

  • @razorback8300
    @razorback8300 2 роки тому

    One thing to note is that when they say that you can see a speck of light and that will be able to go there , it probably means that the stars that are in game will be rendered In the skybox like distant object enhancements so don’t expect to be able to travel to most stars shown in the skybox

  • @RileyMarkley
    @RileyMarkley 2 роки тому +1

    The official video says that you could look at a single pixel size dot on screen, and you could go there. That seems to suggest the capabilities of visiting ALL the pixels on screen. I think we could be in for possible hundreds of planets to explore.

    • @ultraangerybirb332
      @ultraangerybirb332 2 роки тому +2

      If this were the case, there would be further delays and a much bigger file size, Love the optimism though!

  • @chrisstewart2150
    @chrisstewart2150 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the video! I’m trying so hard to keep my hype down on KSP2. It is the best I can do without glykerol for my deep freeze pod.

  • @hitekkaifighter1825
    @hitekkaifighter1825 2 роки тому +2

    I’m not too concerned about how long I need to wait, more so about how beefy a PC I’m gonna need 😩

    • @mastershooter64
      @mastershooter64 2 роки тому

      save up money for a couple months and then upgrade your PC

  • @nobob8564
    @nobob8564 2 роки тому +1

    Remember when KSP 2 was supposed to be released years ago?
    And now we're wondering when the next game development progress featurette will happen.....

  • @Danspy501st
    @Danspy501st 2 роки тому +1

    Im interested to see what modders can do with the new interstelllar travel system, as well if the game devs gonna make a DLC of sort (Or even an update) where they hint to some old classic sci fi tv series. Like wrap engine/core from Star Trek. Or using some "faster then light" theories that is already out there. Like the Alcubierre drive, or somehow have a drive that is able to open/make a wormhole. You know, what some people in the field do theorizing about, but are still way out of the human league.
    I arent saying that I a drive that can do FTL to make the interstellar travel easier. Im saying that it will be cool to see the game devs, or modders, to make that sort of easter eggs

    • @jrehpo
      @jrehpo 2 роки тому

      for the rtg there is a reference to the martian, so it does not seem like something they would not do.

  • @Saleca
    @Saleca 2 роки тому +2

    cant imagine any other way to achieve inter stelar or even regular "jet" drives between earth and mars

  • @stan110
    @stan110 2 роки тому +1

    I think the game will be early access or the other feuters will be a after launce update (since that almost the norm now adays)

  • @noet5923
    @noet5923 Рік тому +1

    okay, hear me out : if were going interstellar, we would likely have vessels that go to a significant portion of the speed of light right ? then they HAVE to include einstein's general relativity laws, like the one which mean that time flows slower the faster you travel in space! idk that would be so cool to have an interstellar trip last 8 years on kerbin but only like 6 years for the kerbals inside the ship or something idk im too lazy to do the maths
    but then i wonder how would it work in multiplayer ? idk seems complicated to implement but damn "time travel" is the coolest thing about traveling close to the speed of light so definitely worth it if you ask me

  • @Swiftey-wu2qq
    @Swiftey-wu2qq Рік тому

    That's hilarious about the physicist and him working on Kraken 🤣🤣

  • @bobguy6542
    @bobguy6542 2 роки тому +1

    They actually edited that presentation after the earnings call to say that it would come out in Fiscal year 2023 OR fiscal year 2024.
    It could have a release date of 31-March-2025 and still hit that.

    • @sclarin2
      @sclarin2 2 роки тому

      They must've hired Chris Roberts as a consultant

    • @44R0Ndin
      @44R0Ndin 2 роки тому

      @@sclarin2 Or Todd Howard. I don't want to play Skyrim remake 2, where's my Elder Scrolls VI?

  • @kreuinos6333
    @kreuinos6333 2 роки тому +1

    The one thing I’m worried about this game is that its gonna be quite laggy and require a beast of a pc

  • @tfk_001
    @tfk_001 2 роки тому +2

    I have never been this hyped for any game. A very promising game + no mtx + regularish progress updates is massive

    • @tfk_001
      @tfk_001 2 роки тому +1

      @@kukuc96 I'd be fine with that yeah

    • @TestECull
      @TestECull 2 роки тому

      DO NOT BELIEVE TAKE TWO! DO NOT TRUST THEM! There will be MTx and it will be the ruination of the game.

    • @TestECull
      @TestECull 2 роки тому

      @@kukuc96 I don't care if the only microtransaction in the game is a fucking hulagirl to put on the dashboard of Jeb's spaceplane, I'm not buying if they're there.

    • @tfk_001
      @tfk_001 2 роки тому +1

      @@TestECull I'm trustworthy they'll do good

    • @sclarin2
      @sclarin2 2 роки тому

      @@tfk_001 I've got some beachfront property to sell you in Nebraska

  • @mikekopack6441
    @mikekopack6441 2 роки тому +1

    I want to know about multiplayer dammit!!!! That's the important thing for me and my buddies who want to play together.

  • @FastRedDragon1984
    @FastRedDragon1984 2 роки тому

    this NEEDS to come out!!

  • @godlygamerz3329
    @godlygamerz3329 Рік тому

    The OAB is also hinted at in the settings>input theres controls for OAB

  • @proon.
    @proon. 2 роки тому

    the real time simulation of the star on the horizon is pretty standard for space games now days as far as ive seen. and even no mans sky had it at launch, but was disabled after mass complaint that day-cycles were broken

  • @MemphisMG86
    @MemphisMG86 2 роки тому

    First of all, nice that you made an episode about ep5 so promptly and also thank you for the rough projections. What can we expect and when.
    On the other hand, I would like to comment on the mp part. Not everything and every game at the forefront ksp constantly needs some kind of mp that just makes the development and requirements for the code even more difficult and you should rather put all your resources into the game with new meaningful gameplay extensions a simulation that doesn't have more than 300 parts a spaceship only feels like 25 fps.
    So I hope that they will stop that in the end and focus on a solo ksp.

  • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
    @GreenBlueWalkthrough Рік тому

    17:38 It makes me wonder if atmoshic condtiions would be better rendered like for supersoic,hypersoinic aircraft?

  • @Robin_7272
    @Robin_7272 2 роки тому +1

    I love KSP and I want to play KSP 2! AGAIN

  • @mcarpen89
    @mcarpen89 2 роки тому

    Regarding how many stars will be destinations, I'm guessing it won't be many (1-3 systems besides the Kerbolar system), but they may add more systems either as paid DLC or as free updates.

  • @konstantinkh
    @konstantinkh 2 роки тому

    Going from academia physics to game dev physics was certainly a transition for me and for everyone else I've talked about it in the industry. Michael has a great background for a fantastic games physics engineer, but it kind of depends on how much experience he had with game physics before and/or whether he is a fast learner. He's definitely more than qualified on the more general stuff, like the interplanetary/stellar transfers, but slaying the Kraken in the context of working with Unity's PhysX is a task that requires specific experience. Which he might very well have - people don't put everything on Linked In and there was time to learn the system, but it's also not a certainty from his background alone. So I'm really curious to see how this plays out in the final game. Hopefully, expertise and time were both in sufficient quantities to slay the Kraken for good. But either way, I do expect it to be much improved.

  • @RetiredGamerPL
    @RetiredGamerPL 2 роки тому

    Kraken is so iconic to KSP that I bet they would like to make a feature out of it. I don't know what ideas they have. Maybe the Kraken would be an actual leaving space 'thingy' in one of the other solar systems that we will have a chance to explore. Probably it will not be very friendly :)

  • @goldenfloof5469
    @goldenfloof5469 2 роки тому

    Given in the Something more segment it showed a lander staging then timewarping a little as it came in, I'm gonna assume it'll have some more advanced, autonomous features similar to mechjeb.

  • @hey_how_are_ya
    @hey_how_are_ya 2 роки тому +2

    I bet the next video that they make would be about multiplayer.

  • @Venoxium
    @Venoxium 2 роки тому +3

    I can't wait for this game but I still wonder about "pre-alpha footage" and stuff. Like do they consider Alpha where they get all the systems into the game and beta just the test + fix phase? Cause I'm slowly not believing this game will come out in 2022.

    • @Dan0RG
      @Dan0RG 2 роки тому

      I think they said at some point that the game will "come out" as an alpha, much like the original KSP. The "finished" version, 1.0, might be as far as years away at this point. Doesn't necessarily mean that the game won't be fun to play when it initially releases, though.

    • @TestECull
      @TestECull 2 роки тому

      If the usual AAA habits are any indication they'll release it as soon as alpha is done and let us pay them to beta test a broken buggy clusterfuck. THat's the usual MO for AAA publishers like T2.

    • @tiedeman39
      @tiedeman39 2 роки тому +2

      @@TestECull You are aware that's now the original KSP came out, right?

    • @churchseraphim1380
      @churchseraphim1380 2 роки тому +2

      @@tiedeman39 I think there's a difference between Squads tiny group of developers and massive companies. Especially when we're talking about unfinished games

  • @melclemmelo1977
    @melclemmelo1977 2 роки тому +1

    Hey nice video !
    Did you got any information about joystick in the episode 5 at 11:53 minutes ?
    Thank you !

    • @axelord4ever
      @axelord4ever 2 роки тому

      It's a joystick.

    • @TheRustedShackleford
      @TheRustedShackleford 2 роки тому

      Just a joystick. You can use them effectively with KSP 1 too with a little tweaking.

  • @doge151.
    @doge151. 2 роки тому

    I think that the on the “something more” part, the video on the computer could be a secret message where after the mission returns, we get the release, and the landing will be a release date.

  • @anmordi285
    @anmordi285 2 роки тому

    I know damn well it will take me years to go interstellar, still I love it, after 90 hours I first orbited Kerbin, I have learned

  • @RealEmerald
    @RealEmerald 2 роки тому

    I was there pretty much right when it came out.
    I was blown away.
    EVERY star in the sky… you can visit it.
    I was all like “HOLY FUCK IN NEED THIS GAME”

  • @SergioVeraH
    @SergioVeraH 2 роки тому +1

    How many years are we keeping the hype up with this game based on pre-alpha footage?
    I hope it does not turn into vaporware

  • @akthewareagle8595
    @akthewareagle8595 2 роки тому +2

    All I want to know is if ksp2 will give consoles the option to use mouse and keyboard.

  • @DataDownLynk
    @DataDownLynk 2 роки тому

    Its just around the horizon!

  • @davidleejones3312
    @davidleejones3312 2 роки тому

    Love KSP, can't wait for the second one, find a few people are feeling that the game won't live up to the hype, I for one think it will. The team seem passionate, and the gameplay released looks good.
    The only issue I have is the wait, but I am sure it will be worth it when it does come out.

  • @thothheartmaat2833
    @thothheartmaat2833 Рік тому

    this game is crazy because you realize that youre always in an orbit.. space travel isnt just travelling in some random line like you can just go anywhere.. youre always in an orbit. when you leave a planets soi you enter into the orbit of the planet around the sun.. visa vie.. if you leave the suns soi (which you probably wont) you will enter the suns orbit around the center of the galaxy.. to get to the next star you simply need to rendezvous with it the same way you do with docking by adjusting the normal value at the node to match the stars orbital plane and then proceed to adjust your orbit by either speeding up or slowing down and either extending or decreasing your orbit size around the center of the galaxy... i would liken it to the subtle adjustments that are made when doing a docking maneuver but on a larger scale.. docking maneuvers are basically micro adjustments to your orbit to match the orbit of the thing youre trying to dock with.. once you dock with it you are in perfect orbit with it.. the same is true for planets and even stars..

  • @snickle1980
    @snickle1980 2 роки тому +1

    2:10 😐OMG, WTF, OAB!