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Wera Torx Bit Profile Comparison: Normal, Wedge, Holding Function
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2018
- A review of a couple of different Torx bit profiles from Wera: Normal, Wedge and Holding Function.
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Wera 066075 T25 x 25mm Torx HF Bit - bit.ly/2v1Y7Jo
Wera 066465 T25 x 25mm Wedge Torx Bit - bit.ly/2M1tvhU
Wera 066488 T25 x 25mm Torx Bit - bit.ly/2LNfXcE
For a set of holding function bits:
Wera 056476 Holding Function Power bit Set - bit.ly/2NkddFx
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I ended up with a pair of Wera T-25 holding function bits by accident after ordering Wera's T-20 "pin in" bits from KC Tool for use with Spax brand screws(similar product numbers caused the confusion). While I haven't built a whole deck with them yet I can definitely say they are the best I've used so far for driving screws one handed, especially with a cordless drill/driver. The amount of control you get from the self centering fit really helps me in instances where using say an impact driver would be overkill or potentially damaging to a work surface.
Many thanks for this! I'm actually in the market for some torx hand drivers and came across the two wera sets; one with the holding function, one without. I did a quick search to see which would be better for me and your video answered my qualms quickly and informatively. Holding function it is!
I just spent a few days cursing some self drilling/tapping torx screws, including searching for what I'm doing wrong. Then I find your video! With metal screws, I'd imagine the wedge is the only way to go, as they're wobbly and unusable otherwise. Thank you!
Great video. Just earned a subscriber
I've been using the longer Hold-Function Torx bits for a few years now and they still hold the screws really snug. In fact, sometimes you really need to yank on the removed screw to un-wedge it from the bit.
Word of caution: you really need to be mindful that you engage the bit as deep as you can on the screw or else you run the risk of damaging the screw as it skims off the top portion of the Torx profile on the screw, which could be an eye sore, depending on the situation.
Where do you buy the longer versions?
@@madalinnicolae5594 I got them from my local Lee Valley store in Canada (they no longer carry Wera). I dont know where you are from, but I'd imagine they'd be available online, through KC Tools, Chad's Toolbox, etc.
@@chriscas-ToolAficionado I am based in London, I tried kc tools online but the shipping is 30 dollars lol to Uk, I bought a bit off ebay today tx25 small wera HF for 6 bucks! Crazy. I am tying to find them in UK but ebay seems the only place....hmmm
@@madalinnicolae5594 tried looking through a distributor list by visiting Wera Tools UK Ltd?
@@chriscas-ToolAficionado i didnt check that actually, u think I would find?
Great video! Answered every question I had about these. Thank you!
great review and very helpful info. Thank you.
It would be helpful to see a comparison between some wera bits and very good usa made bits, like Zephyr and Apex. Maybe compare the hex, torx, and Philips of each brand. Being my 3 favorite go-to brands for bits, "Wera, Apex, and Zephyr", this comparison would be very interesting and useful. The more type compared, the better... square/roberts, standard, phillips, torx, and hex are my suggestion, but others will be helpful too. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!
German Tool Reviews, Could you do a comparison between various "mini torx" screwdrivers? (T6 - T10) Wera / Wiha etc
I'll see what i can do. I have a full set of Wiha ones that I typically use that have worked out well.
Thanks! does it have a part#?
I bought it as part of a bigger set, but try Wiha 45595 if you just want the Torx drivers.
Excellent comparison, thank you.
Thanks Matt. Fantastic content as always. I recall looking at KC Tool's site a while back and being overwhelmed by all the different bit series and price differences.
Wera impaktor and diamont great bits, Wera extra harde so 💪💪💪a lenghts here from Portugal 🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹
They will eventually wera down.
That's what I was looking for and I didn't even know, thanks!
I was annoyed that wood screws are cheaper with torx now, because they wobble so much and are hard to start.
Nice to know, thanks for sharing.
Not related necessarily and I know these screws are self-tapping... pilot a small hole and countersink! The stringer below will still want to crack if you do this, especially with several screws in a row. Even if they don’t right away, weather will make sure the stringers will split.10 extra minutes on piloting and your deck will be solid as a rock!! Related. The standard bits seem to fit sloppy in Philips as well, but don’t seem to have an issue slipping once you get some pressure on it.
The nice thing with torx is you normally don’t strip them so they holding has the most use.
I love your videos keep then comming, do you got another power tool tear down/restoration video in the works.
I still need to finish the concrete saw at some point. I also have a couple more AEG drills that I haven't even started. Just haven't found the time lately.
It is not only the Torx bits but poor screw heads that give problems. The screws you are using have a deep recess and the bit grips well.Most of the screws I buy the heads are shallow and if poorly stamped the bit does not fit and cams out.Once a bit cams out it will continue to cam out. Maybe we have different screws here in the UK but your look much better.
There has always been a difference in the quality of generic vs stainless screws. Torx is no different
Wera makes a proprietary modified torx drive for SPAX, that one is actually designed to be used with wood screws. Regular torx on wood screws are terrible. The "initial drill in" is wobbly on wood surface. That is why Torx started on machine screws.
I still prefer PB Swiss bits. They don't integrate any hold function (just magnetize or use screw holder) on the consumable bits and are very durable.
Huh so even T25 gets chewed up during use, I've used a lot of T10, and oh boy you have to be easy on those - a bit of off center, or not full insertion, it cams out and chews the bit up...
Thank you!
Do the come in the longer quick release version for impact drivers?
Also, I think I'd get all 3 styles. The standard, it seems to me, is sufficient if you're doing a fence entirely of screws, and the looser fit is sufficient for painted screws.
Yeah they do have a version of the holding function for power drives, look for part number 056476. I also put a link in the description.
Great!
Nice. Thanks
I'm lost with Wera's sizing. What size is a T8?
Torx are weird, they're not anything to do with any other standard size. T8 is 2.31mm, it's as if torx were sent from aliens or something because that makes absolutely no sense. They go all the way up to T100 which is 22.13mm. I guess the idea when they were invented was that if they were standard mm sizes you'd get away with using hex bits 99% time and most people wouldn't buy them.
Anything with a T in front of the number is a TORX tool, designed for TORX screws (they look like an asterisk). Their sizes are measured exactly like that: T8, T9, T10, etc. They don't have standard or metric measurements.
Didn't even consider that steel fasteners are much harder than stainless for wear, good point.
As usual, you can probably purchase these cheaper from amazon.de than from KC Tool, even with international shipping it's usually half the cost.
Jon Disnard Good tip. I’ll have to check before my next tool order.
Yeah, you might not find good deals on individual bits, but the tool sets are usually cheaper. Your miles may vary, and if you want holding function Torx, then search for "Haltefunktion". Good luck.
If you want to find knock-offs Amazon is a great place to look. I'm not saying everything on Amazon is knock off, but there are a lot of them on Amazon just like there is on eBay. This is why if I'm looking for a guaranteed genuine product, I stay away from Amazon (and eBay, unless the item is used).
Stainless steel fasteners are SOFTer than "normal steel" fasteners? Hmm? Thanks - Lumpy
They are, I can confirm as a materials engineer specialized in metals. When he says "normal steel", it usually means carbon steel which, depending on the carbon content, becomes brittle as hell. It all depends on the heat treatment of the screws. Generally they are hardened, while stainless steels are done using different methods. If you every damage a normal and a stainless screwdriver, usually it is the normal one which tends to shatter while the stainless one deforms, the latter is less brittle and has higher plasticity as a result.
@@istvanmolnar7637 Hey thanks! - Lumpy
German Tool Reviews using Makita ? Boy go get some Metabo :p
Should have been a Hilti....
@@fermitupoupon1754 Hilti is not german
Or Bosch
I believe Metabo drills are no longer made in Germany. I've had those Makitas for many years. I guess if I really wanted something made in Germany I would have to get a Fein or Festool.
Metabo makes almost everything in Germany :)
Oh yeah, stainless screws and rotten planks...