Also for barrier with Tzeentch, it doesn’t passively replenish, instead an ability on all Tzeentch lords and heroes called barrier relief can be used to restore half of the barrier of a unit at the cost of a quarter of your magic regen, channeling your magic into your forces natural defenses rather then through devastating spells.
Still irks me the way they kitted the dragons out in general. Strom dragon? No Tempest, Windblast, Thunderbolt, chain lighting.... NOTHING?! I get the Chinese strom dragons were just as much about healing as they were destruction, i get the yin yang thing....BUT THERE OUGHT TO BE PLENTY OF DESTRUCTION TOO. " STORM DRAGON GETTING FUCKED UP BY TEMPEST IS SILLY.
@@HiddenEvilStudios wyverns never had a breath attack in the Tabletop. there was an expansion which allowed you to buy breath weapons for wyverns but only if you used those wyverns. The Orc and Goblin wyverns never had one. just poisoned attacks. They're supposed to be very distant relatives of true dragons any way.
It's a bit odd i'll grant you. However, it'll probably change with the Cathay DLC on the way. Dragons didn't have breath weapons until Game 2. So maybe the cathayan dragons will get them later on. There were a lot of things that took a step back with Game 3. They're slowly getting better.
Cheth (the nurgle player) here, and glad you found the game fun to cast! For obvious reasons I blame Tzeentch for our failure, as Papa Nurgle would never allow our deaths ... ... ... ... ... Just kidding of course, PD carried😅
As I was watching it I was yelling for them to jump on Kairos and finish him off. I don't think he could have gotten away from them there and it would have stopped so much of the damage he later did.
The vanilla maps are beautiful and definitelt built for battles this size - there just arent many in campaign of this size. Great video as always, it was a fun one. Barrier doesnt come back passivly in the mod, lords and heroes can restore it
@@jman9049 they fire precursor shots on the charge, but in streets they struggle in a way they don't in the field. They got all the rockets off in that battle though, some on the right flank and some into the nurgle lord
This map layout is actually the same as The Black Pyramid! It's a great siege map, I managed to save a replay of 3 fullstacks of Bretonnian armies attacking 3 stacks + a garrison of Tomb Kings, I really love it. I hope we get to see more big and expansive siege maps in the future, both official and modded.
I was criticizing Cathay for holding on to their lords till end. But tbh both the players used them so well. Kept them fresh and full hp so late game they can snipe lords or cycle charge infantry. 200 IQ
Its great to finally see some seiges... not gonna lie tho this mod is horribly frustraiting, peasants with perfect leadership and the dragons tore thru 2 greater deamons and 2 tzeentch knights without being scratched, the magic did almost no damage
Peasants have poor leadership, they just get large bonuses defending a city. I suspect you and I saw different constellations of the dragon? There's only so dead an enemy can get
@@Wildboy789789 The Enchantress is certainly *not* a god. Don't know where you learned that, but judging by your self-like, I'm willing to bet you made it up on the spot to try and look smart. Lmfao
I like those hand rockets. That would be a cool unit to add in a dlc. Kind of like empire grenade lancher blunderbusses for cathay. Maybe less arc to their fire but more accurate.
The way how explosives (look at dwarfs) and rockets work in this game, I would NOT want them on any regular ranged units. Chaos Dwarfs had rocket 'Irondrakes' in Ovn WH2 mod, and they were the most overpowered, broken unit I have ever seen in any mod. (Just how these cathayan rocket chicks seemed to be in this siege.) (Aside from something like a broken character like Malakai with his own thunderbarge)
the state of sieges in tw3 is so bad on campaign that I didn't even realise that demons had cool siege towers. I've either been player and therefore not bothered building them or the AI literally never attacks walled settlements.
@@IsaiahDavis-i6l that’s not the only solution, just have a slot on the blue line that gives siege equipment without waiting. And ais attacked walled settlements in 2 so it wasn’t an issue.
Something so painful about watching ranged units just sit there and not shoot even though fire at will is on and a clear line of sight is present. Ive lost a few campaign battles due to that, and it gets me super annoyed anytime I see it xD
Hey I've been meaning to try out the game for a long time now but I just got my first gaming laptop and they will recommend me to get the game even though I don't have like a proper gaming PC. Love your videos
I do like cathay a lot. I hope they get proper models in the Old World. i'm also holding off playing a new Cathay campaign until the new DLC drops. whenever that might be.
A lot of the maps in this game make it seem like the map dev team and the unit dev team aren’t on the same page. The unit dev team needs to get on the map dev teams page.
I feel Leadership values in this mod are too high. Basic peasant spears hold the line forever while being surrounded by high level demons. That just not right. It completely negates Terror tactics and makes it way too grindy.
Howdy, the Tzeentch player here, it was a great time I’m glad it’s been enjoyable.
Also for barrier with Tzeentch, it doesn’t passively replenish, instead an ability on all Tzeentch lords and heroes called barrier relief can be used to restore half of the barrier of a unit at the cost of a quarter of your magic regen, channeling your magic into your forces natural defenses rather then through devastating spells.
Great battle from you
Still annoys me that Miao & Zhao don’t have breath attacks despite them having combat animations that show them breathing them.
Maybe it's to differentiate them from actual dragons without human form. Wyverns don't have a breath attack either.
Zhao does have a flame breath spell!
Still irks me the way they kitted the dragons out in general. Strom dragon? No Tempest, Windblast, Thunderbolt, chain lighting.... NOTHING?!
I get the Chinese strom dragons were just as much about healing as they were destruction, i get the yin yang thing....BUT THERE OUGHT TO BE PLENTY OF DESTRUCTION TOO. " STORM DRAGON GETTING FUCKED UP BY TEMPEST IS SILLY.
@@HiddenEvilStudios wyverns never had a breath attack in the Tabletop. there was an expansion which allowed you to buy breath weapons for wyverns but only if you used those wyverns. The Orc and Goblin wyverns never had one. just poisoned attacks. They're supposed to be very distant relatives of true dragons any way.
It's a bit odd i'll grant you. However, it'll probably change with the Cathay DLC on the way. Dragons didn't have breath weapons until Game 2. So maybe the cathayan dragons will get them later on. There were a lot of things that took a step back with Game 3. They're slowly getting better.
Cheth (the nurgle player) here, and glad you found the game fun to cast! For obvious reasons I blame Tzeentch for our failure, as Papa Nurgle would never allow our deaths
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What a great game!
@@chaotix7275 Yeah I def had a ton of fun with it!
I know these battles have to be a pain to organize and execute well, so my appreciation to everyone involved for another great theme battle.
Zhao and Miao fighting the lords of change midair was pretty cool
As I was watching it I was yelling for them to jump on Kairos and finish him off. I don't think he could have gotten away from them there and it would have stopped so much of the damage he later did.
The vanilla maps are beautiful and definitelt built for battles this size - there just arent many in campaign of this size. Great video as always, it was a fun one.
Barrier doesnt come back passivly in the mod, lords and heroes can restore it
How do the Fire Lances work?
@@jman9049 they fire precursor shots on the charge, but in streets they struggle in a way they don't in the field. They got all the rockets off in that battle though, some on the right flank and some into the nurgle lord
@ Indy, 34:30 check the lancers charge the Nurgle Caster, you can see some rockets go off after they charge in
While I don't like the mod in particular, it's nice to see a MP siege battle played out instead of endless field battles. Well played to all.
This map layout is actually the same as The Black Pyramid! It's a great siege map, I managed to save a replay of 3 fullstacks of Bretonnian armies attacking 3 stacks + a garrison of Tomb Kings, I really love it. I hope we get to see more big and expansive siege maps in the future, both official and modded.
Watching that line of crosbow open up to let the fire lancers charge was very cinematic!
I was criticizing Cathay for holding on to their lords till end. But tbh both the players used them so well. Kept them fresh and full hp so late game they can snipe lords or cycle charge infantry. 200 IQ
Amazing battle with great commentary as usual
Its great to finally see some seiges... not gonna lie tho this mod is horribly frustraiting, peasants with perfect leadership and the dragons tore thru 2 greater deamons and 2 tzeentch knights without being scratched, the magic did almost no damage
Peasants have poor leadership, they just get large bonuses defending a city. I suspect you and I saw different constellations of the dragon? There's only so dead an enemy can get
The dragons are literally children of a god. It makes sense they'd fuck up a couple deamons.
@griffinmckenzie7203 and tzeentchian magic should bounce off peasants?... the fey enchantress is a god so i assume she can solo a dragon?
@@Wildboy789789 The Enchantress is certainly *not* a god. Don't know where you learned that, but judging by your self-like, I'm willing to bet you made it up on the spot to try and look smart. Lmfao
Yeah, not a single rout in the battle lol.
Learned something new with the “Rest in Hell” passive
Best game caster out there! Great video 🤘🏻🤘🏻
great fight, very tense.
I like those hand rockets. That would be a cool unit to add in a dlc. Kind of like empire grenade lancher blunderbusses for cathay. Maybe less arc to their fire but more accurate.
The way how explosives (look at dwarfs) and rockets work in this game, I would NOT want them on any regular ranged units. Chaos Dwarfs had rocket 'Irondrakes' in Ovn WH2 mod, and they were the most overpowered, broken unit I have ever seen in any mod. (Just how these cathayan rocket chicks seemed to be in this siege.) (Aside from something like a broken character like Malakai with his own thunderbarge)
Super cool. The Dukes mod is awesome.
I'd totally sign up for chaos if Tzeench gave me a burning magic frizbee, full suit of ensorcelled plate and a halberd.
the state of sieges in tw3 is so bad on campaign that I didn't even realise that demons had cool siege towers. I've either been player and therefore not bothered building them or the AI literally never attacks walled settlements.
That’s been a problem in Warhammer since game 1, tell me right now would you be happy being forced to wait 1-3 turns PER walled settlement?
@@IsaiahDavis-i6l that’s not the only solution, just have a slot on the blue line that gives siege equipment without waiting. And ais attacked walled settlements in 2 so it wasn’t an issue.
0:00 Also known in Albion as Lon-Don, the city of smog
18:50 the pink horrors do have the missile mirror cast'd on them
Something so painful about watching ranged units just sit there and not shoot even though fire at will is on and a clear line of sight is present. Ive lost a few campaign battles due to that, and it gets me super annoyed anytime I see it xD
Oh boy can't wait to watch this later
Simply glorious
new milk and cookies HYPE
The reflection by the way is just missile mirror at the same time
Oh and i was going to mention too, didnt save the archers as i wanted the harmony
More Indy, MORE...!!!!
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Hey I've been meaning to try out the game for a long time now but I just got my first gaming laptop and they will recommend me to get the game even though I don't have like a proper gaming PC. Love your videos
I do like cathay a lot. I hope they get proper models in the Old World. i'm also holding off playing a new Cathay campaign until the new DLC drops. whenever that might be.
When will the other siblings officially appear?
Probably gonna be a while.
A lot of the maps in this game make it seem like the map dev team and the unit dev team aren’t on the same page. The unit dev team needs to get on the map dev teams page.
Great siege
Units not firing gives me nightmares
It is so irritating seeing these deadweight missile units not fire when they need to. CA really needs to fix their city battles.
I'm mid way through a... corrupted miao ying playthrough.. so nan gau is not the only thing being invaded by demons.
dude.. aghols lmao
They need to port Lu Bu over. That man could probably solo Skarbrand
There’s a Nagash mod and you haven’t covered it yet. I’m shocked.
8:06 🤣
Miao and Zhao need melee buff, esp in MP
Does anyone know if Formation attack for Cathay is still awful? Just started up a new campaign and I wanna make sure I don’t accidentally nerf myself
they fixed/buffed it awhile back. its fine to use
@@milkandcookiesTW Thanks Indy!
I feel Leadership values in this mod are too high. Basic peasant spears hold the line forever while being surrounded by high level demons. That just not right. It completely negates Terror tactics and makes it way too grindy.
Thats from being in a city, where they get large boosts
Chorfs were disappointing, here's hoping Sun Kong Dong Long delivers, I haven't played in almost 10months and I do miss WarHam3.
This video was so goofy, felt like none of the players had brains. The defenders played like bots 😂
Wym ? Also bots in WH3 are pretty good at siege defense so that’s not a good insult
Nothing more fun than watching peasants hold elite units because there's an archer in their zip code...
Tbh this really falls short in comparison with your Call of Warhammer siege battles. The commentary is still amazing, the game not as much 😅
Warhammer 3 sieges are just boring.