Mastering Music with the Pros: The Lurssen Mastering Console - Warren Huart: Produce Like A Pro
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- Опубліковано 9 сер 2017
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Hi friends, I hope you’re doing marvelously well!
One topic I frequently receive questions and emails about is mastering, especially how you can craft great masters at home using plugins. So today we'll try to shine some light on it for you!
I'm excited to sit down with the incredibly talented Gavin Lurssen and Reuben Cohen from Lurssen Mastering. I've been blessed to work with Lurssen in the past and in my opinion they are doing some of the finest analogue mastering work out there. Their
credit list seems endless and they've won five Grammys!
In this video, they give us a detailed breakdown of their thought process behind mastering and show us the exact workflow and processors they use to craft brilliant analogue masters.
But what's even better: They also show you how you can apply the same principles inside of your DAW using their 'IK Multimedia Lurssen Mastering Console'. This plugin was specifically designed to give you their exact processing and mastering chains, with a sweet sounding, easy-to-use software!
I have to admit I was very impressed by the performance of this plugin. It preserves the integrity of the music while making it louder, fuller and more impactful. Even if you are not planning on using it as your final mastering stage, it’s a great way to get a quick sweet-sounding master to send to your clients or the label.
I'm excited to hear what you think!
Please leave a bunch of comments and questions below the video and download the demo (www.ikmultimedia.com/products/...) of the plugin
to try it out on your own music!
Have a marvellous time recording, mixing and mastering,
Warren
Calm, measured confidence in their process, without an ounce of arrogance. Absolutely fantastic. Wow.
Hi Joe Harling agreed 100%! There is a level of professionalism at Lurssen which is truly wonderful! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
I came here to get a honest review of this plugin before buying it. Warren you should be proud of how well you discussed this plugin with the creators of it. You asked the right questions and let them tell you the answers without interrupting them. So many UA-cam creators always talk over the people they interview. It is so refreshing to see Lurssen mentoring Reuben and teaching him how to master mastering. This is a dying art these days. I call it tribal knowledge. If we don't pass on the things we have learned to the next generation the we have failed them as well as ourselves. This was truly one of the best videos I have watched on YT. I would like to thank all three of you for the information you presented on mastering. It will always be an artform where using your ears, your gut, and your brain can bring out the magic of a final mix. Well done... 🙏
Wow! Thanks ever so much for this amazing comment! I can't believe I only just saw it!
I haven't watched the whole video yet (how could I, it's been posted like 25 mins ago) but I just have to say one thing: Thank you so much for the amount of valuable and well produced videos you put out here on UA-cam, Warren. I can only imagine how much time and work goes into producing these and I'm very grateful that they're all available for free!
Thank you ever so much for your kind words ThelArocks!!! That's very kind of you!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
@@Producelikeapro Thank You !
I am a IK Multimedia fan-boy, and am not ashamed of it. Out of all the companies out there I am continually amazed at their stuff.
I use to us Mixbus to do my Mastering because of the sound of it. As a DAW I can not stand it, but for running tracks thur it to get that "something" it was perfect...and this is IMHO, YMMV, yada yada.
After trying this plugin a month or so after it came out Mixbus has been removed from my system. Seriously folks, we all know that when 1000 people gush about a piece of software it is usually a let down, not this one!
I would LOVE to see a few more presets from these Masters of Mastering to get me started (especially Classical) but that bottom line is this software ROCKS!
That's so good to hear from actual users of the software Smurf431! Thanks for all of the insight! I will definitely mention the 'classical' preset to them! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I had the pleasure of working with Gavin on my first CD. There is a zen-like approach to his mastering. I think for him it's not about frequencies anymore. It's all about the energy and feel of the music. Great mastering!
Hi Everyone, I hope you're doing marvellously well! In this video I got to spend time with Gavin Lurssen and Reuben Cohen at Lurssen Mastering. They show us around the Mastering Studio and demonstrate their Mastering Software they developed with IK Multimedia. I am behind this, because I believe we can learn Mastering techniques and improve our abilities as opposed to spending money every time on online services! After using an online service a handful of times you could have bought great mastering software like this! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
YES !! Lets learn as much as we can and save money where we can !! Expand our knowledge
Exactly Darlene! It's about growing our skill set! I'd much rather get an affordable tool that I can learn to use and master my own music if I can't afford a great mastering engineer over using an online service! Let's help each other to get better! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Gavin & Reuben are the best! Thanks for this video!
Agreed 100% IWant Appledumplings! Bothe extremely talented! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
This is a KILLER plug-in... not only for the master channel, but also buss and individual tracks. I simply use a gain to push the level before the Lurssen on the master, and that's it. Between this and Scheps Omni Channel - THANK YOU, Warren for the heads-up - I feel loaded for bear... and compression, eq, and other critters.
This plugin sounds absolutely fantastic! I love how it adds loudness and impact without making things harsh. Looks like Lurrsen have done an incredible job replicating their analogue mastering chains.This is definitely on my list!
Yes Samuel! Lurssen have done an incredible job indeed! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
The guys at IK too, an italian company too!
Yes! Italians have the best style, let's be honest! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
You know what, not quite sure. English shoes are better. BTW: did you know that most of Steven Slate's plugins are developped in France?
That's very cool! Hey, I'm English so I understand, Europe is a wonderful creative place! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I've used Reuben on a couple albums now. Great mastering engineer. I am continually blown away by this dude.
Hi Jared, agreed! Yes Reuben is extremely talented and a wonderful guy! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I am coming back to watch this video again and again. And i want to share my thoughts and my experience with The Lurssen Mastering Console plugin, after a year of using it. Honestly: i have a ton of plugins, and i have tried to get close with them to the sound, loudness, warmth, and musicality of the Lurssen Mastering Console ( that i get usually just in few minutes ),- the result is : 1 from 10 mixes sounds a bit kinda close to it, but Lurssen Console still sounds better. I like to tweak the knobs on different plugins while mastering to reach the sound i want, but after composing, arranging, singing , recording, and mixing the whole song, - human ears needs to rest. And the feeling of the songs needs to "restart" before mastering. Yes, after some time with fresh hearing , the final touch - mastering,- can be done ( hardware/software ) very well, but in most cases it needs the most important things: the TIME. Especially, if my files are named, like : " Master Song 1 ", " Master Song 2 "," 3 ", or " 10 ". I noticed, that with every second step is worse than one before. So, now, to avoid this never ending master-story, i can say for sure: The Lurssen Mastering Console - is my to go plugin for QUICK mastering. But in this case the word " QUICK " is equal to the word " GREAT ". 1: Quick, intuitive, musical, and good right from the box. 2 ) How hard you can try to do this - but it never ruins or interrupts in the structure of the song 3) It has two " Q " : Quick Quality. Great plugin and great video! Thank you!
You know what, your videos are becoming more and more interresting ,Sir. Thank you. More of this!
Awh shucks, thanks Pascal you rock my friend! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Absolutely brilliant to hear engineers talking about the importance of how the music FEELS. Much more interested in the Feel and "energy coming out of the speakers" than some mythical perfect eq curve or loudness level. A fantastic video that all aspiring engineers, mixers, musicians should watch and digest.
HI Ian, agreed! Thanks for your wonderful comment! I love being able to talk to guys of this caliber who love what they do! We are blessed to be able to make a living doing music, despite the insanely long hours it truly is an amazing gift and to be able to give back is HUGE!! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
After a long long day of recording Its almost 5am and haven't sleeped yet just to watch your video. I just love that you do this because you love it not because it makes money, anyone trying to be a producer should watch your videos not only because they will learn so much from the best but you have a way of making people honestly just fall in love with the art of recording mixing mastering, music in general. I thank you warren for taking your time to make all these amazing diamond worth videos. Huge fan over here For life
Wow Enrique, that is one of the best compliments I've ever received! Yes, agreed, we are so lucky to be able to make music for a living, so we should share our knowledge with everyone! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
I've been using this software for quite some time now, and it is a truly great app. I use it in stand alone after I have printed my mix, and can say with absolute certainty that it sounds sweet, warm, and clean. Glad to see you take a hard look at this.
Thanks ever so much Tim! I really appreciate your kind words! Agreed, since getting it I've had some great results! When clients have no budget for someone like Gavin I end using this frequently! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I used it to Master an album with a solid topped electric banjo, (equipped with a whammy bar!) and it came out sounding like a million bucks. I tried using other plug ins designed to Master the material, and just couldn't get the same results. That project sold me on this killer plug. I don't finish anything without it. It IS the final treatment when I work on tracks.
Fantastic Tim! Yes, there's so much emphasis on these online mastering places, if we can;t afford a real Mastering Engineer then I want to encourage people to add mastering software to their arsenal and learn how to do it! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
IK Lurssen is one of the smartest and musical plugins of the last 10 years. A game changer for me.
After seeing this video I bought the Plug... It´s great. So much fun and the mixes sound better after mastering and have a professional quality. Hard to describe - check out for yourself.
I love these guys and their plugin is essential to my workflow.
Knowledge of sound is a beautiful thing & walking along with similar understanding is a blessing …
It's rad to see these guys talk with such passion and knowledge. I've been waiting for a video like this since I started using the plugin. I was sceptical at first but it's quickly become my favourite digital tool.
Hi Jacob Clark I agree 100%! It's important for me to work with people who do this because they love it!! For instance Gavin and I talked for a couple of hours about Pink Floyd and Roger Waters! Haha music, music and music!! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Fricken awesome insight from mastering engineers! The plugin looks great and easy to use! Next one on my shopping list forsure
Thanks ever so much Eric!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Great! I use the plugin all of the time. Now I know the thinking behind it and will be able to better use it. Very informative video Warren. Thanks!
Calm, cool, and collected. Those presets save so much time!
Aw shucks thanks ever so much Hayden! You Rock my friend!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Love watching your channel Warren. I got into trying to record my own projects a few years ago and relatively later in life . sure we strategically put a boombox tape player in the room to record ideas but I eventually started making mixes from an analog sound board using a couple mics, rack EQ and compressor and a line out to a Sony mini disc player. Then I bought the Roland VS1680 and finally about 2yrs ago I got a Mac some Focusrite gear and jumped into ProTools and Logic with some nicer mics. Last year I even spent some time being mentored at a local studio with a guy that has 30+ years in the business and well, I still have a lot to learn and I'm not even sure where it's gonna lead me to. I know it sounds corny but I just love making music and being proud to say I made this. Hopefully people enjoy listening to it ... I find your topics interesting and you come across like super cool dude that is just sharing some useful knowledge. I've been meaning to comment for a while ... So anyway, Thanks ... This plug in seems pretty awesome ... I'm gonna shut up now and just pay attention.
Thanks ever so much for sharing your journey! That must mirror so many of us! Incredible to hear it from you! Creativity is king! Nothing corny about what you are saying my friend! I too LOVE making music, that's we are all here on UA-cam searching for inspiring things to keep our love of music going!! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
I bought the plugin when it first came out, the demo sold me. It is one of the very best plugins I've ever bought, it really does what it says it does, and it sounds GREAT! Very happy with it!
Hi Killing Jar that's wonderful to hear! As we say in England, Gavin and Reuben really know their onions haha! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Thanks for all of your videos Warren! Tops to you!
HI Monty! Thanks ever so much! I'm glad to be able to help!
Great job guys! Can wait to buy it... Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!! Have a marvellous time Mastering! Many thanks Warren
Great video with lots of inspiration! Bought all the versions of the LMC (PC & iOS) and I'm really loving it. Still trying to find how it fully works but like Gavin said, you have to "feel" the music. Too much technical details might send you in a foggy place but I strongly believe that our human instincts and ears are the key to a perfect master.
Very helpful. Thank you for posting. I very sparingly use T Racks for subtle enhancements. I will definitely be feeling more confident with future mixes now that I've listened to your discussions
Love this plugin!
THANK YOU FOR THIS BRILLIANT VIDEO.
Brilliant video. Enough said!
Hi Ian Willett thanks ever so much! Really glad you enjoyed the video! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Marvellous Marvellous Marvellous,restores my hope in the end result.Digital rocks.
Hi Paul, yes indeed! I agree, this is two very analog guys who have got behind a digital product, this means a lot to me! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
WOW! I know what comes next... (my purchase) Warren, you need an affiliate link, M8!
Props to you for spreading the word! This ROCKS! Already tweaking the demo on the iPad w/phones...
WOW! Thank you!
Hi Gr8tfulDude haha no affiliate link! There's even a discount! I'm not selling this, I'm helping people, educating people! If we can't afford talented people like Gavin and Reuben then here they are giving us an affordable option that we can expand our knowledge! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
I like the song. Very Gilmouresque in style. I gotta try that plugin, after all. IK are Italians, support the local economy:))
Can't go wrong with a little Pink Floyd influenced music! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I have the plugin already and I love it guys. Great plugin I suggest you demo, it will change your work flow.
Hi Brian, it definitely is a great sounding plugin! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
your the best sir I love all that you do for up coming engineers. Keep doing what your doing. #make engineering great again
Thanks ever so much Brian! You Rock!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
How much is the plugin May I ask.
This was a fantastic video! I don't master my own stuff, but I do want to try this plugin out now.
Hi Matt, exactly! Let's encourage people to learn and grow as Producers and Engineers!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
love their standalone console. I use it when my mixes are perfect and just need a little polishing.
So I checked out the video. Download the mastering console demo. Remastered a jazz track I had just mastered with my normal plugin chain. The first thing I noticed the Lurssen has more beef and I ended up with a better master. I tested this plug before and i clearly did not understand what was going on under the hood the first time. I think it sounds amazing. I did not realize how much I was carving out of my track with my old plugin chain. Warren I think you said what i was trying to say at 48:25 it preserves the mix..Nice relaxed video great way to end the day.
Hi The Mix Club that's amazing to hear! I just started using it and love it!! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
I bought this today for $35 on the IK Multimedia site! Thank god for quarantine sales.
The car thing is so cool. I mean, yes, thats where most of us listen to music. I love that they thought of that and bring that up. I bought is and will use it as a stand-alone (another thing I love about this). I use a 24 track Yamaha AW2400 and will NEVER go Computer DAW! Having the stand-alone option is huge! I am currently re-mixing much of my music and will re-mater it using this. Stay tuned.......
Damn, that thing is magic!
I feel cool owning JBL LSR305's now! Amazing video Warren!
You're very welcome stijn van wauwe, Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I have the LSR305s and love them
Thanks Jared!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Can't swear to it but sizewise I think they're 308s (which I proudly own), and they are fantastic monitors at any price. So balanced and clear and translatable. Lack heavy bottom but to me that means they aren't hyped, and that's why God invented subs.
I really thought this thing was a gimmick when it came out.
About to start using it (just got it on a special).
As always, great content.
Thanks a bunch!
Love this plug in makes my highs silky
Lovely!
It's not what you know, it's who you know :). Can't help thinking Mastering is more of a philosophy and a technical ability. And good philosophy depends on the good teacher. Great info, thanks. Going to get a copy
Excelente video! Thanks Warren :)
Hi Meraki, thanks ever so much! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
After having this plugin on my iphone for s long i dicede to try a mac version
This is a game changer i try to mix my as best and i then run it through this plugin it sounds better than a lot mastering house out there it make life so mucher easier
On my list!
Wonderful Matthew!! Let us know how you get on with it! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Cool video! Thanks!
Looks very easy to work with this plugin!)
And one plugin will not overload your CPU
Hi Vova, great! Download the plug in and let me know how yo get on! I actively want to help people learn these skills! If they can't afford to use a Mastering guy then let's learn these techniques! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Great advice!
Thanks ever so much
I'm 3 years late but thanks. Another great interview!!
Thanks ever so much
Excellent!
Thanks ever so much!! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Great video, it makes me wonder if any engineers use this on there master bus while mixing to eliminate mastering as a 2nd process.
That's an extremely good question! I'm sure many do! Personally I would encourage people to do that as separate process! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
@@Producelikeapro Yeah I agree. If you leave the mix for a few days and then master it you're more likely to have a 'fresher' perspective on the song.
Excellent
I just bought this but can't find any help PDF or similar. What ideal level should a track be in order to go into the software as a plugin?
Very cool
Thanks very much Z!!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I personally like to work in a hybrid fashion. There is for sure benefits and disadvantages to both. Now this can open up a discussion to LANDR....
Hi michael emm I all about growing my skills! If there isn't a budget for mastering then now I have options to master myself! I will always use a professional mastering engineer when I can, here is an option when I don't have the budget for one! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
The EDM track is dope! Definitely downloading the demo to try on my mixes
Definitely recommend the demo! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Great song!
Yes indeed IWant Appledumplings!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
i cannot import my song onto my ipad, it keeps telling me to turn on file sharing in LMC. where is that located?
Great video as always really really cool stuff curious about whos the band love me my prog almost sounds like RPWL . Cheers mate will definitely be using this plugin
Only qualms I have is poor editing with analogue "Walthrough" and Ruben mis-spoke about the eq curve. It's reverse smile face rather than a smile face eq. Makes a big difference for what they do. I think this is the most underrated and underground plugin that everyone needs to buy. I still use Gavin for all my good budget clients. You can't replicate his EQ rides into the chain. There's magic there that you can't get with the plugin. Still a great plug to buy and be checking your mix with.
Thanks for your great comment Travis! I really appreciate positive people who are here to help! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
it doesn't have an output (make up) gain? to do a bypass a/b comparison?
That first mix sounded like David Gilmour's voice but the guitar solo sounded like Gilmour on steroids. Wow! What a great sounding tune. The Pop tune was really cool also in the way it used the percussion. Great show. The plugin sounds interesting but on my boss WIFI speaker it just sounded louder and not better, but I should have listened with head phones. Perhaps I'll listen again. Great stuff Warren as always.
Aw shucks thanks ever so much Jack! I agree! Please download the tracks, play with them, try the software and let me know what you think! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Did you have your helping hand in on those mixes Warren?
Hi Jack, no these are from Dave at IK (the Pink Floyd sounding track) and one of Reuben's (Hip Hop artist)! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Very interesting. Mastering is an art indeed. Thanks for this insightful interview. Impressive view of the mix / master pro scene. Also, Lurssen has before and after examples on Soundcloud. You can use it in the car at the club ... the earbuds. I was afraid to check the price .150 bucks ... not bad at all !! I will defiantly try and flow some stuff through this!
Reminds me to check out your production mentoring course / academy. Only ... 17 a month. NIce.
So for around 4 or 5 hundred dollars, I can apprentice music production and play with pro mastering plugins. In a year, I should have something amazingly wonderful.
worth a try ... ;P
Also I was inspired to write because I was pleased to see the JBL speakers, I have a pair :) My little 8" home studio Monitors. Flat - loud - responsive :)
Slowly getting there ...
Hi Colin Kilburn great comment! Yes indeed, I really encourage people to hone their skills, learn more talents! Ultimately it not only makes the music better, it will save you money using online services to learn it yourself! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
yeah but how do I put music in a folder so i can pull it up on the app so i can use the iphone app to edit mixes in my car?
I have the iOS app (are you kidding me!?!?) demo, it’s limited but you can tell it’s very capable! ON MY PHONE. Mind boggling.
so insightful - fresh perspective on mastering - Lurssen plugin is $159 rn, sounds like a great bargain.
Thanks Frederick! Agreed, try it out for free and let me know how you get on with it! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hay Warren and Team!
Can you make a video on how tuning drums? For me as an engineer its very important to get good drum sounds and the recording starts with the instrument itself. As I am not a drummer, its not that easy for me and Id appreciate a way of doing this. Whats your way of tuning drums?
Thanks for the great content! =)
Hi Hannes, that is an amazing topic! Yes, in the works!! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
The only thing that the plug-in maybe fails on is the fact that there is no way to tell how you are doing on the lufs scale.
Great to see analog and digital side by side. BTW, what's a Walthrough (1:59)? Brilliant demo, though.
Hi Ken, great! Glad you enjoyed the video! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Anyone know the brand of the trackball over the desk?
Sorry for my ignorance but are we supposed to put this plugin at the very end or we still need something more after that?
This processor should be the very last stage, and should be done in a different session than the mix. By this I mean you should not use this plug in the master bus of the mixing stage.
I close my eyes when adjusting compressors etc, my ears are my best tool and im really working hard to train them and take brain and eyes out of it. Usally if i do that i find myself going harder then id dare. The only problem now is i judge my song before i really listen the song, i hear mistakes BUT after a while of listening i find i like it more as i hear a song not a project with clips and hiss in areas i wished i paid attension too. Prime excample my very first song is the most liked but i thought it was messy but now im like ok its got some energy as a song, any advice on this judging? Im thinking of doing free mixing so i can get to mix others work from an unbiased point of view and do what the song needs not what i want
Hi Matthew, well out! Yes, use your ears!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I have to say, when I first saw this plugin I was extremely skeptical. I'm generally adverse to hyped-up products because it's the best way to spend your money on something that isn't right for you. I wasn't convinced by the demos and reviews back then, but this video is making me consider it. Now that the hype has died off and that the this-is-the-new-best-thing-in-the-world-for-guys-who-don't-know-better-type campaign around it does not bother me anymore, with a real-world application such as this one, I'm starting to appreciate it more. Hell, I'll probably buy it in the near future!!! Thanks Gavin, Reuben and Warren!
Hi noisesoundtonevibe thanks for extremely well thought our comment! Many of us respond the same way! For me I've worked with Gavin and Reuben, they do wonderful work and when I heard they were doing this I knew I had to take it seriously! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Great video who was the artist of the last track and what was his name
Great vid, Warren! Learned a lot!!! I've been in that room with Gavin when he mastered a song for my band. We recorded it in our living room, but it made it to #7 on specialty radio tying with Arctic Monkeys and Queens of the Stone Age - I attribute much of that to Gavin! (the song is here if anyone wants to hear it: Maximillion - "My Cell" ua-cam.com/video/tzMbr9emeKo/v-deo.html).
The only thing I was missing in the interview was more talk about his 'secret weapon' - the tube gain box with the giant knobs (I had to ask Gavin to let me turn that giant knob when i was there!!!). The first time I met him he was in his 'lab' soldering up some tube gear. Would love to hear more about this side of him, that gain box, and his hand-built gear!! Cheers! Great interview!!!
Hi S Flynn, that's wonderful! Congrats on your success! Yes, Gavin and Reuben do wonderful work!! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Hi Warren. I have a question for the guys there, if you are able to pass it on. I am a complete amateur, doing mostly ambient type stuff with lots of reverb, piano, etc. When I use the Mastering console, which I bought several months ago, I haven't been able to get an improved sound. It usually makes, for example, the piano sound a bit harsh, very colored, and not as natural as I would like. I'm sure this is due to my ignorance on using the tool.
I wonder what presets they would recommend for ambient music and piano music. Thanks!
Hi lahattec, great question! I have found going through presets is very rewarding! I try to listen quietly and frequently so I don't get too tied into one sound, then print a few versions, take a break and listen again! That will really help you! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Hi Joely Barish exceptionally good advice! Definitely watch the input gain so you're not introducing excessive distortion! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Thanks. I'll give that a try. I do have Ozone 7 but have not yet had the chance to dive in. So many plugins, so little time. :)
Thanks Warren. Have a marvelous time meeting and working with new people and making videos. Thanks for those!
Thanks Joely, I really appreciate your extremely kind words! Definitely a great point, for people starting off the effect of loudness can cloud their judgement! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Warren. Great video. In the past, I have witnessed a kind of "bigotry" against IK Multimedia plugins. Some birdbrains think that if a plugin is relatively "inexpensive", it is schnizel. For me, time and time again, IKM have turned that braindead thinking upside down. I love to produce my own one man hobby music, up to the mastering stage. I use nothing other than "vintage analog" plugins for mixing. Nothing makes me happier than mastering my mixes with Lurssen, because by that time, quite frankly, I am totally sick of the damn song !!!
Hi Piedscooter1 great point! Gavin has made a reputation for doing a wonderful work in organic music using hardware, so once I found out he made this plug in I had to know more! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Oh yeah, I forgot to say. Lurssen puts polish on my well intended mixes (as mastering should?)
Hi Piedscooter1 nicely said! I'm sure they really appreciate that vote of confidence! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
I think this is a great video and great product overall. My only reservation is that--apparently--there is no way to keep a consistent level, as the rising input is not compensated for by negative output volume (using input/output ceiling "link" or some other option). Subjectively speaking, without this option, it's going to be practically impossible to really *know* if the changes you are making are actually better (objectively) or just apparently better (subjectively)--the latter due to generally massive shifts in loudness introduced by the input gain knob.
It's an oft repeated psycho-acoustic phenomenon: louder almost always sounds better in A/B scenarios; so I'm not quite sure how Gavin and Reuben are absolutely sure that real improvements are being made at each stage, or overall, without some loudness altering post process--that's unfortunately not going to be in real time (for instance, level matching in post). I am frankly impressed that they can do great work working this way (I'm not sure how the brain does these feats...that we are all forced to do while adjusting compressors, etc. when mixing) but, personally, I'd feel quite lost without level compensated, real-time A/Bing for critical mastering applications. Working in the analog realm for so long, I can understand that maybe Gavin and Reuben have actually learned to do this feat somehow...so, truly, without snark, I am honestly impressed! However, for the digital plugin version, you'd think that they'd now be liberated to add this feature (as seen so ubiquitously in most other competing digital mastering products) whereas, in their true analog setup, I realize this is not a practical possibility.
Don't mere mortals need this feature for more objective A/Bing?? ...or should we somehow learn to "ignore" this psycho-acoustic phenomenon? How do the creators of this plug accomplish that on a daily basis??
Future Update request, regardless!?
Hi Nelson, great comment! I would suggest trying the plug in out and see what you think! Ultimately this is a plug in that has a very analog sound in many respects, so definitely as you push it harder just like Gavin and Reuben's equipment the sound will change, like any other analog or analog simulation piece! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Great commentary Nelson! So to answer your question in greater detail, yes, you are correct Mastering Engineers are able to hear past the final getting louder and of course they will reach for their volume control and run it down if necessary! The simple act of turning your monitoring up and down is a huge tool that I actively encourage! Listen at low levels and then short bursts at high levels! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
P.S Thanks for showing class and professionalism in your commentary! I love being able to help and I am NOT an expert at all! Just another guy making music the best I can and blessed to be able to do this for a living! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Warren, I am just delighted to hear from you--my gosh! I just love your videos and they are always very informative, down to earth and...well, real! I appreciate that down-in-the-trenches sort of vibe and I know how true it can be (I'm getting to be a veteran myself). Unlike some hosts, you are not elitist or too technical, which I think is a great--very approachable and fun too! ...just snarky and opinionated enough to be of genuine interest! Clearly, I'm a huge fan!!
As for your comments, of course--duh--the answer is demoing it! I obviously tend to forget the obvious?! In any event, I am just insane with this particular issue; as I am an always junior mastering engineer with a grudge. I'll stop now... But I am really "into" A/Bing, whenever possible (in digital only), and knowing--almost without a doubt--whether I like the after-results or ...whether I am merely being deceive by nothing more than loudness. I've been using limiters that have this particular feature and I'm not sure I could ever live with myself if I didn't preserve that function. HOWEVER, it's clear that this Lursson mastering plug is--if nothing else--an amazing, world-class color box to run one's hard won mix through. And I'm sure it's much more than that!! I'll be trying it for sure. (ps-huge fan of IK's Stealth Limiter...wow!!)
Great, great shows!! Big fan!!
Nelson
Thanks Nelson! You're a class act my friend! Thanks for the great comment, you are of course correct there is always something we can improve in everything we do, I try to remember that 'all I know is I know nothing!'. I will leave the experts to tell me I'm doing it wrong, I'm happy to be learning and I really appreciate your positive attitude! Thanks for responding and have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
what is the name of the band and song?
Mainly those breakdown vocals need de-clicking, not sure why this didn't occur to the mastering engineers here? I guess with cameras rolling and pressure on they overlooked this.
It does not make sense to me that one would take a digital signal and convert it to analog for treatment and then back to Digital for export? DA conversion in my opinion should only happen once in a recording. Also I saw your mastering video, and I can't imagine using tubes Amps for mastering, I would want something much more stable.
49:33 This is great advice! I was taught to leave at least -6db on tracks... which is definitely biased and bullshit... If you look at "bad guy" from Billie Eilish that sound was only made possible by pushing "everything to the max" (obviously there's amazing production involved and all) But u know as long as you're not really hitting the master (channel) like a madman, and it sounds good (not to be confused with LOUD) You're fine...
@nuke'stop5 Do you see it? 48:15
I've got a gr8 idea for a giveaway .. some of these really good chairs .. & what about some " Produce Like a Pro " Hoodies / T- shirts & sweats etc .. I'm a 38 to 40 inch chest .. lol cheers .. & they could say Have a Marvelous Time recording & mixing ...
Haha that is actually an extremely great idea for a giveaway!! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
WHY 19 people dis like this video...??? What's wrong with them?
Haha it's quite alright! Thanks for the great support I really appreciate it! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
You're such a gentlemen. Your effort is not in vain Mr. Huart. Your channel saves us thousand of $$$ on avoiding mistakes on gear and techniques, thanks for everything you do...!!!
Hi Gamaliel Rios that is very kind of you my friend!! Glad to be able to help! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Just being the devil's advocate (again), but there's something to be said for the "louder is better" psychoacoustic effect...
KhronX well there is a limiter at the end of the lmc and it’s all in one mastering plugin... it’s gonna make it louder
Definitely KhronX, louder is a huge part in how people hear differences! Obviously this is a lot more than that! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hey Warren, I own this plug and its very nice.. the really frustrating thing about it is no way to level match the bypass... it seems such a basic thing to have left out.
Interesting! I haven't though about it! Good point, so far I'm loving it! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
... But it's *supposed to be* louder, and thus, "better" - why would you need such a silly feature? ;) (I jest, i jest...)
that ear eq costs 15 grand lol
I know Chris!!! Exactly!! That's why I am so happy that someone like Gavin who has won 5 Grammys for doing incredible organic/analog sounding albums would create something like this! Frankly, I was taken aback when I heard, but I knew it was something I HAD to take seriously! Have a marvelous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
not bad for 50£ a master
Such a good "GAIN PLUGIN"! Pass the signal through it and everything sounds, eemmm - "LOUDER"! (I have a gain plugin in my DAW)
Stop cheating people!!!
Haha funny Tim! Have you tried it? It does A LOT more than gain! In the Academy some guys did a shoot out, it's very different, you should try to for free, you'll hear a big difference! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hi Warren! Well, its not about if I tried it or not! There are a lot of young guys and people that just starting production and not everyone knows louder=better! If someone in the Pro industry makes such a video the gain should be compensated to make any judgments! Why I am using my time to explain the thing you already know!
Saying again: "STOP CHEATING PEOPLE"!!!
Without respect
Tim
Thank you Warren for taking the time to treat people with respect and listen to them even when they are obviously trolling !!
Thanks Darlene! It's quite alright! I was taught by my Grandfather who was a truly great man, a Tank Commander under Montgomery, a Local Councilman, there's a wing of the Church is named after him 'The Huart' room and he taught me to respect one another. We live in a time where everyone wants and needs to be heard and I truly respect everyone's perspective! I know there's many incendiary places that create a high level of hatred, it's unfortunate, but I like to support each other! I'm NOT an expert at all, I'm only sharing my experience strength and hope with everyone! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren