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КОМЕНТАРІ • 676

  • @garychap8384
    @garychap8384 6 років тому +217

    Dark green isolation stuff is inarguably the best kind of isolation stuff!
    Avoid bright colours! Especially Red and Blue isolation stuff, which is too warm and too cool respectively. Green isolation stuff is pleasantly neutral. If there are more than two people in the studio during recording or playback, dark green should be worn... most studios keep a sack of ex-military ponchos for this purpose, but you can use whatever you have available.
    Furniture arrangement is important. The room should be laid out according to strict Feng Shui principles. Dark sounding rooms may require exorcising. Bright sounding rooms may indicate the presence of pixies.
    Prior to using the room it is usually common practice to ritually sacrifice a Sgt. Peppers album _(A bic lighter is sufficient)_ - this will appease any remaining studio pixies and satisfy the Gods as to your righteousness.
    Happy recording

    • @LordDRockMusic
      @LordDRockMusic 6 років тому +10

      GaryChap This made me lol pretty hard 😂

    • @BartNelis
      @BartNelis 6 років тому +4

      WTF ...LOOOOOOL .... LMAO :-)

    • @rudymartinez5537
      @rudymartinez5537 5 років тому +1

      😂

    • @ace-smith
      @ace-smith 4 роки тому +7

      I'm ashamed to admit it took me until the military ponchos to understand this was a joke - I thought the color references were just studio sound lingo I was unaware of.

    • @XX-121
      @XX-121 4 роки тому +3

      after the Sgt Pepper sacrifice and a good sage cleansing and adding the green stuff then add a drop of acid and play the japanese cd pressing of tool's "10000 days" and then the ceremony will be complete and you will be able to see the light.

  • @swiftmello123
    @swiftmello123 6 років тому +82

    I've used folded beach towels for years.

    • @CallumSk8er
      @CallumSk8er 3 роки тому +4

      at least buy some foam. When isolation is discussed there is always someone bragging about using something like an egg box. Why not spend a tenner on some isolation foam, even if to just make your set up look better

    • @CallumSk8er
      @CallumSk8er 3 роки тому

      ​@BERT hahah welcome to the internet. Other people's unnecessary opinions forced down your throat ;)

    • @rome8180
      @rome8180 3 роки тому +1

      @@CallumSk8er Probably because what he's doing works?

    • @ATBstudiopink
      @ATBstudiopink 3 роки тому +3

      Dampened towels or dry? Small dad joke there. . Towels are awesome for walls as well

    • @postmortemritual
      @postmortemritual 2 роки тому

      Nice idea,thanks

  • @twochaudiomg2578
    @twochaudiomg2578 7 років тому +105

    Now i understand why a lot of music is poorly recorded. The speaker sound is going over the engineers head.

    • @root4669
      @root4669 5 років тому +6

      Engineer is too strong a word, that requires passing marks, more like high school stoner.

    • @brunog.8920
      @brunog.8920 4 роки тому +3

      Like the great Drax the Destroyer said: Nothing goes over my head! My reflexes are too fast, I would catch it.

    • @Rzn8B58
      @Rzn8B58 Рік тому

      you want the tweeter going over your head and the woofer at ear level, same as with a club or dj setup. the highs will fatigue your ears faster.

  • @garyhinde1173
    @garyhinde1173 7 років тому +58

    Watching your video Streaky, inspired me to get my head around what I could do for the near field monitors I just bought to isolate them. Being disabled with limited funds, I either have to save for ages to get good equipment or like in this instance, get my grey matter working on an alternative. Sometimes the idea's work out be no good & I have no option but to buy market products. So I got myself down to a local Poundstore & bought 8 high-density foam balls for £2, & at my local hardware shop, I bought 16 large coasters, for sofa's & the like, for £8. Couldn't wait to get home & try this idea out!..... I 1st off put 4 coasters down the right way up & placed a foam ball in each, I then turned the top 4 coasters upside down & balanced them on top of the balls. The speakers were put on top of them. The result was AMAZING!! The speakers are completely isolated from my desk, I can feel the vibrations with my fingers when I touch the top coaster but when I touch the bottom coaster, there is no vibration at all, so the ball is removing it all & the difference this has made is HUGE!! You can see in the screen shot, exactly what I have done & if anyone doesn't believe the result.... try if for ya self! You will be amazed too & not just at the saving you will make but the quality of sound..... All that's left to do now is make a raised shelve to stand my PC monitors on & place the speakers each side of them, to get my triangle right with the tweeters at ear level. It's all good!! prntscr.com/fxnodd

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  7 років тому +9

      haha this is mega...before clicking through I thought what is this guy on...but they look excellent and if they work that is perfect...nice work 👍

    • @garyhinde1173
      @garyhinde1173 7 років тому +3

      Glad you like them & I would be really interested if you tried this way for yourself & compared them to the others you have. What's to lose? A tenner hahaha

    • @howsziz
      @howsziz 7 років тому +3

      GARY HINDE,,,,,,,,I have just two things to say to YOU !! The First thing is ,,,hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. The Second thing is.THANKS. You are one very Clever dude. :-)

    • @keitholdbean3173
      @keitholdbean3173 7 років тому +2

      What you made looks very good . isolation vibration devices ..

    • @z00ts00t77
      @z00ts00t77 7 років тому +1

      Great idea, I'm going to try this myself, thanks.

  • @txddyfarquh69
    @txddyfarquh69 3 роки тому +2

    Is there any way to see some kind of test showing frequency or waveforms of how these different acoustic dampers really work in a treated Room??

  • @beatweezl
    @beatweezl 3 роки тому +2

    But do they go to 11?

  • @zabtej1645
    @zabtej1645 6 років тому +3

    the more layers of materials with different density you put under it the better the isolation

    • @mysteretsym
      @mysteretsym 4 роки тому

      Yes, im using styrofoam sandwiches. One dense piece on top, a more foamy piece in the middle, then another dense piece on the bottom, works perfectly

  • @pocketnotes
    @pocketnotes 3 роки тому +4

    What if the speakers are hanging from fishing line tied to the ceiling?

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  3 роки тому +7

      Don’t sit under them 😂👍

  • @BrokenShifterCable
    @BrokenShifterCable 7 років тому +11

    Vibration from near field monitors is super helpful in my case. Ethan mentioned his measurements that show little difference when the sound is measured over the air. What needs to be taken under consideration is that our ears are not the only way the sound reaches our brains. It's also the vibration of the floor, it's the vibration of the console palm rest which we can feel rather than hear. This is an important factor which might actually be helpful rather than harmful. One of the reasons cars are so good for assessing our recordings is the vibration that we feel with our hands resting on car doors, vibrating car floor that we feel with our feet, etc. In this case it doesn't cost much to try different options. Try it yourself what's better for you! Don't listen to "you should never do that" advice.

    • @mitchiemasha
      @mitchiemasha 6 років тому +3

      This is why clubs are better upstairs. The bass carries along the floor more than the hard ground. You feel it more than hear it. Increase the sensation for much less power. Hard floors can often make the bass feel dead.

    • @reptilespantoso
      @reptilespantoso 6 років тому +1

      I'm using paper cone bass driver speakers (old K&H) to check the bass. These never lie, those germans knew what they were doing.
      They're the size of small nearfield, but we tested ABX and I can hear 30 Hz on them.
      The potentian pitfall with your method is, that, unless you get it 100% right, the room or the surface in the car emphasizes different bass frequencies (through resonances) than in a club.

    • @CyrilleBoucanogh
      @CyrilleBoucanogh 3 роки тому +7

      If you need vibrations over the floor buy a subwoofer. But what Streaky wanted to say is warning that placing the speakers on the meter bridge we are smearing the transients and destroying the high frequency waveform loosing the energy and accuracy and details.

  • @brianlastname192
    @brianlastname192 4 роки тому +18

    Now I know where the term snake oil came from.

  • @antigen4
    @antigen4 6 років тому +2

    keeping them ON or NEAR a desk is a fantastic way to EFF up your sound quality right there!!

  • @EricRyanSound
    @EricRyanSound 5 років тому +7

    I'm running Auralex acoustics angled wedges under my adam audio on floor stands. I have the pucks and the difference is so incredibly small it can only be measure by specialized sound mics. Diminishing returns bro.

    • @jamahlrawls3520
      @jamahlrawls3520 4 роки тому +1

      Eric Ryan Sound
      The tallest pucks or the shorter ones? I’m really interested in putting my speakers on my desk if possible; did u do that or did u use floor stands along w/ the pucks?

  • @opticalman6417
    @opticalman6417 Рік тому +1

    would be cheaper to just use some door stoppers its just a bit of plastic at the end of day

  • @swingset1969
    @swingset1969 7 років тому +145

    I thought this might be a satire video of high end isolation products. But no, you're serious. Have you tried chakra aligning crystals?

    • @trigger_me_timbers
      @trigger_me_timbers 6 років тому +3

      LOL! this comment had me dying. I was going to write something similar because this guy sounded like a knob.

    • @reptilespantoso
      @reptilespantoso 6 років тому +8

      I'm dutch. We're as cheap as the scots but we have better PR.
      So I'm using decoupling. It started a long time ago with "spikes" that a friend (high-end nut) gave me. "ooooh my" I thought. this actually works.
      So now I'm using something that works really well. But I'm not spending 600 squid, instead I'm using basic building materials. :-D

  • @jackiedixon5076
    @jackiedixon5076 2 роки тому

    Thank you for these iso tips. I worked in Nashville at major a recording studio that used very good isolation for near field speakers. I am retired now and own my own budget friendly studio. The ones I made are 2"X12" rectangles of mineral wool wrapped in material. I had left over. The great monitors I invested heavily in have very, if any that I can detect, No low end loss. Low cost but quiet effective. I haven't had one client tell me they were dissatisfied cause they could hear sound emanating from my mixer desk. You sir, I admit you have much better ears than the average listener. I appreciate your videos and education about such matters.

  • @Bluelagoonstudios
    @Bluelagoonstudios 4 роки тому +1

    Speaker dudes from Auralex are doing the trick, not cheap but very efficient. I used them for a long time, now my Yamaha monitors are on the wall, just to uncouple them from the desk. I have not a lot of space here, so this solution works for me, btw I used the original brackets from Yamaha, these are isolated as well. But you are right placing them right on the console isn't' a good idea. Great video.

  • @donepearce
    @donepearce 5 років тому +71

    Hey, I know a Nigerian prince who has a great offer for you.

    • @CurtisGabrielMusic
      @CurtisGabrielMusic 4 роки тому

      This is cry of someone who has never heard them with good monitors in a properly treated room that's set up right. They make a significant difference. It's simple science really.

    • @donepearce
      @donepearce 4 роки тому +1

      @@CurtisGabrielMusic And for you I have this snake oil that will cure all your ills.

    • @theanthill1001
      @theanthill1001 4 роки тому +1

      Overconfidence and ignorance, together at last!
      ANY music producer, mixer, mastering engineer, or any musician who's spent time in a studio will tell you this guy is exactly right. That's why he gets paid to master the music you and I listen to, and you don't.

    • @donepearce
      @donepearce 4 роки тому +1

      @@theanthill1001 You are speaking entirely for yourself.

  • @JohnMorris-ge6hq
    @JohnMorris-ge6hq 5 років тому

    You forgot the pads. Why don't near field monitors have threads at the bottom for screwing in spikes?

  • @homebrewinstrumentals7700
    @homebrewinstrumentals7700 2 роки тому +4

    Another tip, if you have those bogus acoustic tiles that you typically see youtubers of all types using, put 2 of them together and you basically then have isolation pads. I did this when i realised rockwool panels are better for general room treatment and had all these acoustic foam tiles left over.

  • @JogieGlenMait16
    @JogieGlenMait16 3 роки тому

    Foam can point the speakers upwards or downwards. These solutions are just level?

  • @CurtisGabrielMusic
    @CurtisGabrielMusic 4 роки тому +1

    I'm not a fan of the iso acoustic stands. I do currently use them but they feel so cheap and the rubber really sticks to the metal adjusters, very frustrating to set up or adjust. Definitely gonna try the daddy pucks !

  • @keitholdbean3173
    @keitholdbean3173 7 років тому +8

    You can buy small rubber feet that can be glued onto the speaker base ... that works the same and costs 2 quid for a set of four ...

    • @dennissvensson6051
      @dennissvensson6051 7 років тому

      keith old bean no, if they are to soft they will be compressed and transfer the vibration, same if they are to to hard from the beginning, but I can't say enything about the product he is displaying.
      But they are why to expensive.

  • @shanehen
    @shanehen 4 роки тому +1

    Better how? Measurements?

  • @SHONSL
    @SHONSL 5 років тому

    Why stop at structure-borne noise? Might as well construct an anechoic room while you're at it.

  • @slowpokeproductions
    @slowpokeproductions 3 роки тому

    Instead of buying four for each speaker, couldn't you buy three for each speaker? Triangle formation? Two under the front or back, and the single one centered under the opposite side? Would at least save some money?

  • @accentontheoff
    @accentontheoff 4 роки тому

    Hi how does one decide what the distance should be between the ears and the monitors. No one seems to,be addressing this issue. Is there some kind of system, based on power output, woofer size etc.

  • @drampadreg1386
    @drampadreg1386 6 років тому

    For front ported monitors you can build "portable soffits" by building a box much larget than the monitors and a second opened front box to put your monitors in with a quarter inch of neoprene between them and your monitors. Fill the remainder with sand. If you use beach sand, cook it at 400 or so for at least 30 min. to kill critters. Soffits are sand filled for decoupling, I figured why not build the same thing that isn't part of a wall you don't own? Just position them and then fill with sand! They ain't going to be light and ease to move. They will extend your lower range by around 5 db though!

  • @thomasedward2231
    @thomasedward2231 5 років тому

    Are this iso - pucks the mini?

  • @bunker5tudios495
    @bunker5tudios495 Рік тому

    whats the name of the green stuff that you are using?

  • @alexandrmardari5995
    @alexandrmardari5995 6 років тому

    This floating construction eats lows, but distorts highs. Taking in mind amplitude of the high frequency driver much less than 1mm, every micromovement of the monitor will cause macro effects.

  • @James40Hz
    @James40Hz 6 років тому +1

    To be fair the guy is a mastering engineer where any improvement to sound, no matter how small is critical in that environment. I guess 600 quid is not a lot for him to spend considering the cost of all the other gear. ( I agree it's a ridiculous amount of money for such items).. but for those of us who are first and foremost music producers who have home studio setups in less than perfect acoustic settings, then cheap or homemade isolation pads of some sort are good enough. I use ESI Unik 08+ monitors which are not only great monitors , they actually have built in height adjustable rubber feet to decouple them from surfaces..… oh and both monitors cost around the same as his puck things. ;)

  • @fab_fourr
    @fab_fourr 6 років тому +2

    Hi Streaky, in your opinion,
    the iso pucks
    can improve performance even with monitors on stands like Zaor product ?

  • @Дмитрий-б4о2щ
    @Дмитрий-б4о2щ 6 років тому

    Tell me please. I have monitors genelec 8040. They are not put on IsoAcoustics ISO racks without the supports that come with them in the kit. If we put a wood plate on these supports, and we already put the speakers on it, will the effect have the same vibration isolation?

  • @WheelieMix
    @WheelieMix 7 років тому

    Do you think you will still need one of these isolation products if you have your speakers standing on independent stand from the desk ?

  • @AlenFekonja
    @AlenFekonja 5 років тому

    I've used rubber, cca 2cm thick. It is sold for "soundproofing" your washing machine :). I've put it under monitor and under legs of stands I've made for them.

  • @papoosee
    @papoosee Рік тому

    what do you think about isoacoustic's "Aperta" series, which is an aluminum version of the plastic stand you have? Or are the isolation pucks still a better way to go instead of the stands?

  • @kingkavin7013
    @kingkavin7013 6 років тому

    Should I not do all these which u said in the video?

  • @dominiksikulec3454
    @dominiksikulec3454 4 місяці тому

    Hello, are dmsd still best option? Thanks for answer!

  • @mcmattt1
    @mcmattt1 7 років тому +2

    could u leave links in the description when showing products?

  • @optimalprime3895
    @optimalprime3895 7 років тому

    I had mine mounted on wall brackets in the studio I was using. Unfortunately I've not got access to the building now as it closed down, however I'm thinking of doing the same thing where I live. Right now however they are just sat on a glass shelving stand which is itself mounted on top of a worktop. A bit closer together than they used to be due to space but don't sound too bad. I think being glass and not wood helps a bit.

  • @ArthurMcGDM
    @ArthurMcGDM 2 роки тому

    I have a 6-10 db boost at 160 hz caused by my desk, even with isostands. Will the pucks help remove that boost?

  • @TheDilligan
    @TheDilligan 3 роки тому

    Isn't it a flaw that speakers built for studio use don't have quality isolated feet built onto them?

  • @accentontheoff
    @accentontheoff 4 роки тому

    Just being broke, not facetious, but what if I just stuck a few pieces of rubber under the speaker. Would that work. Also, what about books. Thanks for the video.

  • @TiqueO6
    @TiqueO6 4 роки тому

    Need have a set that’s on the console to simulate what people do at home putting their speakers on bookshelves and such?

  • @bendickeson424
    @bendickeson424 4 роки тому

    Breeze blocks on desk, blobs of blue tack on top, then wooden boards, finally metal spikes under monitors. Whole set up cost me less than £30 and they are as tight as you like

    • @who_is_dis
      @who_is_dis 8 місяців тому

      LOL bullshit. Breeze blocks resonate like crazy and skew the sound of your monitors like mad.

  • @duboracle
    @duboracle 7 років тому +18

    600 Pounds for something you can make yourself, sounds like its made from magic material like angel hair and batwings that bathed in moonlight at a mercurius eclips.
    I think the effects you hear are not from the quality of these stands but all have to do with the baffle effect you create under your speaker.
    And most of all the resonance you hear from your desk, depending on how mutch these stands transmit into it.
    You can also try those stands with sharp points for minimal contact and place them on a heavy stone plate, i think that will do mutch better than a 600 pound solution.

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  7 років тому

      Haha yeah it is a bit excessive...they do work though. I've had good results from points and concrete but the Iso Pucks where it's more floating on rubber stuff (technical speak) sounds the best to my ears.

    • @johncuster3833
      @johncuster3833 7 років тому

      Why don't you respond to Ethan Winer at ethanwiner.com/speaker_isolation.htm

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  7 років тому

      I've been meaning to but forgot...

    • @duboracle
      @duboracle 7 років тому

      I see.
      Funny to say but i found out that a screen or wall between the tweeter and mid/woofer also produces a better sound quality, even a piece of cardboard mounted with tape should work, try it out.
      The low end soundwaves distord the high frequencies from the tweeter, just like the wind outdoors can influence soundwaves from far away. it worked for for me, way less distortion.
      8 by 6 inch should do the trick, to stupid for words, but it works also.

    • @mrmorpheus9707
      @mrmorpheus9707 6 років тому +1

      ROTFLMAO. BATWINGS BATHED IN MOONLIGHT....LOL

  • @dimakushnir7506
    @dimakushnir7506 7 років тому

    This is off topic but It might be a big deal so it is interesting. Why would you put some of those hard monitor pads on the surface of the expensive outboard gears? It feels like you don’t own that all stuff....

  • @rufusromeo
    @rufusromeo 6 років тому

    I think I'll try corks from wine bottles. 4 to 6 grouped together should make a leg, 4 legs per speaker. What do you think?

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  6 років тому +1

      Rufus Romeo sounds like a plan...or miss going to dinner one day and buy some proper ones :)

  • @juweinert
    @juweinert 4 роки тому

    Sounds a bit like you're hearing the price there.
    All solutions except the foam pad all do exactly the same, from a physical standpoint. They use rubber for decoupling.
    The only possible difference is maybe the tuning of the rubbers stiffness, length and area. And then the speakers weight would influence this tuning heavily.
    I'm fairly certain you can get the same results using Squash balls (or anything rubber with a small contact surface) if you experiment with stiffness, contact area (amount of cut when speaking about squash balls) the count (3 vs. 4 vs. more) and placement under the speaker.
    The fun fact is: even the folks with expensive products only got physics to work with.
    If you like the convenience, that's a different story. But there is no way 600 bucks will improve physics by that much...

  • @mixedbypricha7327
    @mixedbypricha7327 4 роки тому

    Hey Streaky,
    This is not an audio question so forgive me, I am a fan of your work and channel though. I noticed that this video looks very poor compared to your latest videos. My wife has just started video blogging and is suffering from the same video quality as in this one. What did you do to get to the super high quality you're at now?
    Thanks
    PrichA

  • @Espresso101
    @Espresso101 3 роки тому

    What do you think about Sorbothane Hemispheres and where they fit in comparison?

  • @maxibr08
    @maxibr08 6 років тому

    what do you think of individual stands for studio monitors?

  • @rome8180
    @rome8180 3 роки тому +1

    I use the foam the speakers came in. It's a dense styrofoam. Works great.

  • @familjenberg9206
    @familjenberg9206 7 років тому

    I wounder if there is any good solution for isolating if you want to wall mount the speaker ?

  • @Wh1teland
    @Wh1teland 6 років тому

    would the pucks further improve my Ultimate MS-100B stands or are they already good enough?

  • @musicxtech6680
    @musicxtech6680 4 роки тому +1

    Hey streaky. How can u adjust the heighy with them "isos"?

  • @seanmcaleavy2369
    @seanmcaleavy2369 7 років тому

    What is a squash board?

  • @charliegrey2767
    @charliegrey2767 7 років тому

    I have a bedroom studio with the foam wedges you mentioned, which have solved some problems. But now Im debating whether to get a pair of Isoscoutics for £200 quid or invest in sonarworks room correction software...my gut says isoacoustics.....thoughts?

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  7 років тому +2

      sonarworks and squash balls

    • @charliegrey2767
      @charliegrey2767 7 років тому

      Nice one streaky, I stupidly forgot to mention that I still have a copy of ARC 2 software that I used a while ago in the same room but had to uninstall due to a new PC build.The problem is, is that the setup for ARC2 was such as faff that I never bothered to install again, and have now discovered that sonarworks looks much easier and quicker to setip, hence my thoughts on sonarworks. should i go and try and setup ARC again or go with sonarworks?

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  7 років тому

      Sonarworks is much better than ARC and quite fun to setup...it does some good sorting of the phase issues in small rooms.

    • @charliegrey2767
      @charliegrey2767 7 років тому

      Streaky, you absolute legend, thankyou! I'll invest in sonarworks

    • @Truth565
      @Truth565 7 років тому

      Charlie Grey You should do both if necessary. The Sonarworks will EQ your monitors to your room, but if you are still getting resonance from whatever your monitors are sitting on, it won't help with that. So if you don't believe you have issues with your room then you you don't need Sonarworks, but every one should isolate their monitors.

  • @ChurchClown7
    @ChurchClown7 6 років тому

    So does anyone use isolation pads for a soundbar? Just purchased the Samsung Dolby Atmos soundbar and I’m looking for any info on isolating the speakers.

  • @TheSnazzed
    @TheSnazzed 6 років тому +2

    At: 03:41 I was looking at the Iso Accoustics website and you were saying, "These ones are the daddy... I've been using these, so these are very close to these, but these are better than these. These are really good. These are better. These are quite expensive."
    These, these, these, these, these, these, these. If you're only listening to the video, it really doesn't work.

    • @bontempo1271
      @bontempo1271 4 роки тому

      What a stupid complaint. Its a fucking video lol. That is correct, it really doesn't work because you're supposed to be watching xD

  • @samwocks
    @samwocks 6 років тому

    I already have the auralex isolation pads for my speakers. Do you think it's worth the difference in quality to buy the isoacoustic hockey pucks? (~$200 both both speakers) I just bought the Focal Twin6 Be Monitors to use for mastering. Thanks!

  • @CaneSugarHD
    @CaneSugarHD 5 років тому

    That's why you buy a monitor stand and put some foam on it like every professional studio has, and put them behind the desk and behind the mixing panel. There, you're done with less than 40 dollars. You're never gonna convince me a bunch of 600 dollar hockey pucks are gonna get rid of smearing in the mid-range.

  • @jaredg5434
    @jaredg5434 6 років тому

    Can i use a single puck if i have a small pair of speakers (Bowers and Wilkins MM1)

  • @tmansmac
    @tmansmac 6 років тому

    primacoustic recoil stabilizer?

  • @jasonallen9868
    @jasonallen9868 6 років тому

    Do they go to eleven?

  • @thagek2
    @thagek2 6 років тому

    Have you review those PSI monitors? I don't see any video about them from you.

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  6 років тому

      Allen Aung no I never did reviews that often when I was at metropolis but I’ll see if I can get the small 17’s over as I thought they sounded good but would be nice to hear them in a different room

  • @klubstompers
    @klubstompers 3 роки тому +2

    $600 for some neoprene sandwiched in between some aluminum? I guess there's a sucker born every minute. The black ones are just technics 1200 foot design from 50 years ago, rubber pad on bottom with spring in the middle. For that price i can buy a technics 1200 mk7 turntable, and they throw the feet in for free.

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  3 роки тому

      Nice shout might find those and try for a video 👍

  • @PeterVipulis
    @PeterVipulis 7 років тому

    for U.S., what are squashboards?

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  7 років тому

      www.amazon.com/Squash-Balls/b?ie=UTF8&node=3419901

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  7 років тому +2

      damn should have made that an affiliate link :)

  • @CThienV
    @CThienV 6 років тому

    What if u added bricks or other very heavy objects ontop to plant the thing down hard?

  • @wojciechczupta
    @wojciechczupta 5 років тому

    what would you suggest for ATC SCM 100 monitors, which are quite heavy? Currently I use small floor stands, that come with the speakers, but I don't feel like using spikes, as they damage the floor and I couldn't move speakers around, which I do sometimes.

    • @wojciechczupta
      @wojciechczupta 5 років тому

      I found it: www.isoacoustics.com/products/gaia-series/gaia-i/ - expensive piece of equipment. Better be good...

  • @peekabooooooooo
    @peekabooooooooo 5 років тому

    "Not these but these. These sound good , however these are better than these. Not these but these. If you think these are good then you need to check out these. These are far better than these. These are more expensive than these but far better than these, these and these. Great review man!

  • @KidFictionOfficial
    @KidFictionOfficial 5 років тому

    Got mine on extremely heavy wood stands the concept is they absorb all the vibrations without vibrating themselves... It's the opposite concept but I think it would work better for some speakers

    • @steven2809
      @steven2809 Рік тому

      If only that were even remotely true.....

    • @KidFictionOfficial
      @KidFictionOfficial Рік тому

      @@steven2809 thank you for your extremely unhelpful and open ended comment three years after I posted.

    • @steven2809
      @steven2809 Рік тому

      @@KidFictionOfficial You're welcome...

  • @Stacity
    @Stacity 3 роки тому

    I use a pair of ISO Acoustic stands they do the job a bit on the expensive side.

  • @DJTINYM
    @DJTINYM 7 років тому

    The Iso acoustics ISO puck are around the same prise as DMSD 50 what one would you go for if DMSD 60 was out of your budget ?

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  7 років тому +1

      DJ TINY M if the picks are out of budget then normal Iso acoustic stands are excellent

  • @terrytran
    @terrytran 7 років тому

    Have you tried the Ardan Stands?

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  7 років тому +1

      no they look like crutches for speakers...any good?

  • @LTDusersince99
    @LTDusersince99 6 років тому

    why is there so much white noise coming out of the video when you don't speak? Is this the work of a compressor?

  • @imBQL
    @imBQL 6 років тому

    how about stands?

  • @paulguy2545
    @paulguy2545 Рік тому

    I just got a set of True-mix AR5s Studio Monitors very recently and right out of the gate I used some specially-designed Foam Pads between them (that came with in the Studio Monitor Package and the stands, and they really DO make a difference. Before when the only pair of Speakers I had to rely upon where Samson BT3s, I simply used some Styrofoam packaging with them in my Desk to try to provide a level of isolation to try to make the best of what I had! It really does pay off de-coupling your monitors with something!!

  • @ruiremesso
    @ruiremesso 6 років тому

    Can soomeome give me an opinio for speakers?
    So basicly I had logitech x230 for my tv and pc but they dont work anymore as they got old...
    Now Im thinking on getting new ones to replace them but dont know what to choose between: edifier r1850db, edifier r2000db, klipsch r15pm, kef x300a, m-audio bx8 d3

  • @stevethetoolman2435
    @stevethetoolman2435 Рік тому

    Thank you! Great video. I ordered the IsoAcoustics. The DMSD were out of my comfort zone for home audio. Experts like you do a great service. My hearing after 40 years of flying commercial jets isn’t so good. Your review really help me. Ty Steve

  • @LesonDeson
    @LesonDeson 4 роки тому

    Have you tried simple Sorbothane hemispheres under the speakers, they are usually really cheap and a lot better than foam.

  • @quantumchang4410
    @quantumchang4410 Рік тому

    Why not hang your spkr with a string?

  • @carewser
    @carewser 6 років тому

    Geeze, how much bass are your little monitors putting out? I could see a sub creating resonance but not little monitors

  • @dubbee2295
    @dubbee2295 7 років тому +1

    thank you for the advice as usual!!! i see the big PSI in the background.how they sound in comparison to the PMC?

  • @robburgess4556
    @robburgess4556 7 років тому +13

    The ISO Pucks are sold in packs of two?? That's dumb :-(

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  7 років тому +3

      yeah bit weird but I think it's because you only need 3 for smaller speakers...so only 3 packs rather than 4

    • @matiaserp
      @matiaserp 7 років тому +2

      Smaller speakers need 3, so 6 for a pair. If they sell in 4 packs you would need half a set. Same goes for larger speakers, they need 4, so sets of 3 would not do. So sets of 2 accommodate both scenarios. Strange indeed but there is reason. :)

    • @mikelo303
      @mikelo303 7 років тому +3

      money fucking grab

    • @twochaudiomg2578
      @twochaudiomg2578 7 років тому +1

      Rob Burgess
      they got the idea from hot dog buns This guy's not into music mid fi audio You only use a three point tripod set up. Very Seldom you get a great rock recording. This guy Must just do rock. Don't Take this the wrong way

    • @MarioJoseNyc
      @MarioJoseNyc 7 років тому

      and too expensive.

  • @a3production277
    @a3production277 7 років тому +2

    awesome video, what stand do you advice to get? I just bought barefoot yet I need adjustable stand and in my country I couldn't find something solid so any advice ? I'm planning to buy it from vintage kings or sondpure or anywhere in US
    by the way I just ordered DMSD 60 PRO and it made a big difference for me
    and you forgot to try the BETTERMAKER MASTERING LIMITER
    I just found that dave Pensado got it in his studio :D

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  7 років тому

      I will check out the Bettermaker Limiter I just need to find somebody to lend me it :) when you say stand do you mean to put the speakers and DMSD's on?

    • @a3production277
      @a3production277 7 років тому

      yes because I found a lot of companies that makes monitor stands but not adjustable also not solid enough so if you have any company in mind to look to their monitors stands I would be glad

  • @dimitrisgakis9206
    @dimitrisgakis9206 4 роки тому

    So, never do what with nearfield monitors? buy these?

  • @livligamusic
    @livligamusic 7 років тому

    Finally got in to Metropolis to have a couple of tracks mastered with Hippy yesterday! First time getting anything mastered and I'm pretty blown away by the results. Also... he had his nearfield monitors just sat on the desk.. tut tut! Is it worth investing in extra isolation if you already have monitors on special monitor stands, off the desk?

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  7 років тому +1

      LIVLIGA Charming could have booked me 😔...yes Hippy is a great guy...yes get the ISO Acoustic pucks you'll be surprised in the difference it makes 👍

    • @livligamusic
      @livligamusic 7 років тому

      Can't afford the pro rates yet. Unsigned mastering service for the win. Big up Andy! Maybe next time though. I'll be back for sure! I'll check those pucks out. Top videos, thanks for all the info!

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  7 років тому +1

      LIVLIGA just email me direct always keen to help unsigned artists streaky@streaky.com

    • @livligamusic
      @livligamusic 7 років тому

      Streaky Mastering oh awesome! Yeah, I'll get in touch for sure next time I have some tracks that need doing. Thanks man!

    • @livligamusic
      @livligamusic 7 років тому

      Streaky Mastering ps: where does the name Streaky come from? I'm curious

  • @Adam-ed5pk
    @Adam-ed5pk 7 років тому

    What do you think about the primacoustic RX series? I've heard they are pretty decent, very solid.

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  7 років тому +1

      They are ok and a step in the right direction but they are pretty much in the foam pad category for me, I don't think they give as much separation / clarity as the other options on the market these days.

  • @Vikdttcjnnklgyhvcdgklm
    @Vikdttcjnnklgyhvcdgklm 6 років тому

    People can use nearfield speakers with a massive stands on the floor and not on desk. In ideal - remove desk from your control room 😆 Only chair, laptop in your hands and acoustic system.

  • @sivaprayojan
    @sivaprayojan 7 років тому

    thank u for this video, what about Auralex MOPADs ? will be they worth buying for that price?

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  7 років тому

      if you've got nothing then these are better but you should skip the dinner out this weekend and buy the isoacoustic for around £100...or skip the summer holiday and buy the DSMD's 😂😂😂

    • @sivaprayojan
      @sivaprayojan 7 років тому

      haha! :D thank you!

  • @billcw1834
    @billcw1834 6 років тому

    HI!Streaky,can you talk about the PSI monitors you got?THX!

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  6 років тому

      BILL CW I don’t have them anymore...I’ll see if I can get some as I’ve heard a lot more speakers in the meantime...they were good though

    • @billcw1834
      @billcw1834 6 років тому

      thanks a lot! i heard good thing about the psi,somesay PSI,Quested,ATC,PMC are kind of similar,what`s the different?

  • @MKJ2DAY
    @MKJ2DAY 5 років тому

    Any thoughts on having that speaker turned on its side to achieve proper tweeter to ear level? I've just tuned my Focal Solo 6's on their side with the base port on the inside and (at least to my ears) things have come a lot more into focus... Interested to hear what you think of speakers on their sides in general....

    • @BrewReview
      @BrewReview Рік тому

      At that point you're likely experiencing a more vertical dispersion of the tweeter from the in-built waveguide. Near fields are designed (typically) with horizontal placement in mind and using them horizontally negates the design principles of the waveguide. It can also have an effect on how wide your mixes sound, better or (usually) worse, due to the fact that it can cause even further smearing of frequencies. It likely won't be as focused a sound as intended unless the speakers have horizontal placement inherent to their initial design.

  • @fullyfuller
    @fullyfuller Рік тому

    Streaky thank you for the cool and informative videos! Curious what your thoughts are on the Primacoustic Recoil Stabilizers?

  • @marksense
    @marksense 7 років тому

    LOVE Streaky Mastering! In my project studio, I'm currently in the lower class of foam decoupling for my studio monitors. Foam provided by Thomann (no affiliation). Cheers from Taichung btw! Thank you 'Streaky Mastering' for following me on Instagram as well and thanks for the educational and thoughtful product review, I really liked it. It was helpful because I will skip the isopad entry level in favor of the state of the art solution down the line. However, at this time, the foam is decoupling very well ( in terms of recording budget). ;)

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  7 років тому

      nice, thanks for watching...pleased you're getting something out of it :)

  • @markfischer3626
    @markfischer3626 5 років тому +1

    We can't have any bloody smearing in the mids. No that won't do at all.
    What if you use all three at the same time one on top of another? How about a cement brick or slab? How about a pillow?

  • @CesarRodriguez-oy5vr
    @CesarRodriguez-oy5vr 7 років тому

    What is a nice affordable setup that can be better than a cheap logitech thing but not crazy expensive? like maybe $100-$225

  • @Drummerboy106
    @Drummerboy106 7 років тому

    Great video man! Would you recommend using either of those pucks if you already Have some ATC25's on Sound Anchor stand? Thanks!

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  7 років тому

      Drummerboy106 yes I would as they will be on a solid base but you need to separate the speaker from the stand.

  • @shuye9474
    @shuye9474 6 років тому

    Hi Streaky, any review of your PSI audio 17 and 14 ? Thx

  • @declanharrison4721
    @declanharrison4721 6 років тому

    Would a set not have to be given, to every speaker the mix will be played in as well ! If your not mixing for an end product user what's the point

    • @Streaky_com
      @Streaky_com  6 років тому

      The point is when you're making changes in a controlled environment you are basing your decisions on the cleanest / flattest speaker reproduction possible...then it will / should translate better across all systems in the real world.