I feel like maybe bi-weekly would be more doable.. If it's every week, I think they're going to run out of relevant topics quite quickly. I could be wrong though 🤔
I love how everyone talks up St. James’ park just completely ignoring that the yellow wall and the San Siro are two of the greatest and most intense stages you could face in world football… let’s give some respect to the continent! Thanks for the video, hope to see this every week
PSG play Marseille at the velodrome atleast once a season, I think they can manage as well. Its like when Nasri was asked if he felt nervous captaining Arsenal at the Emirates and he explained to the reporter that he was captaining Marseille at 18. The english bias is strong with this group..
@blondizza but they ain't playing at the velodrome? St James isn't an English bias... just those other teams in their group have had champions league over the last decade while St James hasn't so they gonna be more intense just on the sheer fact that it's been so long
Overrated/Underrated is a difficult one to judge because it involves assessing the general opinion about a team as well as the objective quality of the team itself - so can be easily swayed by whatever you've seen. It's also unclear - overrated by who? Their own fans? The press opinion? You can tell from the discussion in this that the lads aren't entirely sure where each other is coming from. One suggestion could be to summarise at the start what you believe the general opinion is first, so then everyone knows what your metrics are... Otherwise you could be judging it on totally different standards to someone else.
He waffles every show he’s on, I always feel like in the other shows everyone else talks as if they’ve researched their information, checked their facts etc. Zac just speaks from his own experiences and doesn’t seem like he’s done much actual research, hence why he waffles a lot to get to his point, and hence why he sometimes has poor takes
Think of Barca as a second-tier team that is very hard to beat, especially in defense, like Inter, and Atletico, they reach the final like that, except they have players that could make the difference and win it, kind of like Chelsea won, tho Chelsea had no business winning it, also Xavi have proven to know how to win particularly hard games, only injuries fucked him. All attacking players performed well in international break.
My ranking of FD members’ ball knowledge: 1) Pat (ofc) 2) Henry 3) Dougie 4) Mike 5) Joe (he is more of a presenter and amazing at it but don’t rate his ball knowledge) 6) Zac 7) Sam
I think beyond the sentiment of putting Pat first just because, I would agree all of the EFD guys have superior ball knowledge. I also think Pat gets a bit too much credit sometimes and Joe not enough but those bottom 2 really do pick themselves 😂
Pat is probably the most intelligent, that is the reason he may appear more knowledgeable. But mccubs, Henry and Dougie watch more football, keep updated on news and peruse footy ref also.
They failed to also acknowledge that Barcelona had massive injuries to their incredible defense during the Champions League (Araujo, Christensen, and Kounde) were all out injured leaving a backline of Alonso, Eric Garcia, Pique and Roberto to deal with the likes of Bayern and Inter Milan, hell Pique was the reason Barca lost to Inter at the Camp Nou
Don't know about saying Madrid will flop, but I do agree that if they want to make a serious push in the competition they need a striker. Either that or the other players like Rodrygo, Guler and Diaz need to step up more than what we expect.
Zak saying Barca has played good football last year shows how much he hasn't watched Barca, yes we have got results but the performances over the past 6 months have been underwhelming
Depends on your definition of good football, barca had the best defence in all of Europe last season, attack is a work in progress but I think there has been decent development of squad. We should make a decent run in CL while defending the league title acc to the squad we have.
Agree, people see the incredible defensive numbers and think we’re great, but the reality is that we play in a league where teams sit back all the time (unlike say the prem), truth is that we’ve been scraping 1 goal wins for over 6 months now
Dortnund, Milan and PSG will be awestruck at St James? I’m quite sure Isak would tell you that two of the Stockholm derbies are louder and more imtimidating. Milan, Dortmund and PSG play infront ultras every week. PSG lacks experience, with two of the best players from wc final up top? But Arsenal got lots of experience in their squad? I want what you guys are smoking!
My argument for PSG is that regardless of any other argument, they do not have the winning backbone or true warrior that will help them through the hard times. We have seen it every year that when the going gets tough, PSG crumble because they don't have a player with the character to drive/motivate the players around them
As someone who follows the largest Barcelona fan channel on YT, I don't know what the hell Joe is smoking. Competing to win the UCL? Pretty much nobody thinks that.
I think it's rather the delusional takes from twitter from their biggest accounts. Not everyone is like that but they are the highlights in your fanbase and I'm really sorry for that.
I don’t think any Barca fan (me included) think we are winning CL but I do think we should be making Atleast quarter finals with the type of team that we have which is why I think we are a bit underrated.
As a Barcelona fan my expectations are Quater Finals and depending who we face but I’m not expecting to win it unless the big teams get knocked out early. That being said ion think having expectations doesn’t make us “Overrated” considering how much money was invested.
Why is no one talking about the keeper situation of Bayern, they don't have a class keeper right now, and keeper is a very strong position to win the CL
In the time that Man City and PSG have had their “dominant” era, Bayern has won more league titles and two trebles. So acting like Bayern has underachieved is such an odd take
@@DJJ616 Yeah i just think the criticisms of City in that era was more based on irrational kind of knocks against Pep and city, while the criticism of Bayern is exaggerated against their team/players if that makes sense? City-“oh city will never win because they don’t have that history” is a silly take imo but the Bayern criticism always read to me like “Bayern won’t win because their team defense is poor and the depth is lacking/manager is poor”. So two different exaggerations but of the same magnitude.
I actually understand Zac’s argument even though he confused himself. The general public *still* rate Barcelona, whereas the pundits overrate them. Accordingly, they’re underrated because the odds makers and tacticos are very negative about them, and they’re the ones who make the most of the content. People who really watch and pay attention to Barcelona know what they’re capable of; others do not, and most people are not Barcelona fans.
i think Bayern are clearly the 2nd favorites behind City just because Madrid have this huge hole in their team at striker without Benzema, and PSG you can't trust. Barcelona are overrated because i think Lewandowski is declining, they lost Dembele, and just overall they lack depth & experience in the Champions League. City are huge favorites to repeat.
As a barca fan, quarter finals is being hopefull. Barca fans aren't delusional, we know the team isn't what it was but we remain optimistic. Btw i think man utd fans and chelsea fans are the most delusional. .
Bayern won the sextuple like 3 years ago. Next year they went vs PSG without Lewandowski and Gnabry(if they were fit they were going to win it back to back). Man city would've been much closer if Nagelsmann wasn't sacked. The only season they massively underperformed was the Villareal one, there's no excuse for that. Quite ignorant comments about them regarding the UCL.
@@hello7032 this point in particular was pretty ignorant cause a lot happened outside the pitch that affected players on the pitch. They rate Bayern highly and are most of the time objective but they sometimes say some stupid generic thing without checking.
@@flaviantanase1889 Yeah that’s my thing too. I’m a Bayern fan so I’ll admit bias, it’s just that sometimes their criticisms of Bayern are wildly subjective and don’t align with the facts. While there’s plenty to actually criticize them over, FD adds in extra that I believe is rooted in Premier league bias.
As a Bayern fan I can comfortably say we are overrated. Mainly due to the fact that Tuchel as a coach is insanely overrated. Ever since he took over, our performances have been nothing short of horrendous. He has managed up to this point 18 games, only getting a 55% winrate (3 draws and 5 losses). In of itslef doesn't look that bad, but if you look at the goal difference, we scored 37 goals and conceded 27. How on earth can that be considered as a top candidate for the champions league. Let's also not forget how many of the wins were insanely close 1 goal margin victories: 5!!! And the eye test confirms this, we play shocking football more often than not, were chances are not converted and 3 counter attacks lead to 3 goals. Don't get me wrong, the players at our disposal are definitly talented enough to win the champions league (with the exception of Bouna Sarr, Ulreich and Upamecano), but with this coach we have no chance. I'd be surprised if we even get a chance to the semi final.
Bayern won the Sextuple recently & just added one of the best striker in the world to their squad. I think they’re underrated if there’s opinions like this
Retarded comment how many penalties was barcelina given last season? We can't even spend much money because of Tebas but yet Real Madrid and Atletico get to spend their ass off
Barca was tough, they are what they are atm. Neither overrated or underrated, realistically just mediocre compared to the other competition. Great content as always, when does Star Wars start up again? always enjoy watching Henry bottling it worse than arsenal in a title run
Yeah, they are underrating Newcastle. There's every chance that being back in the champions league for the first time in a long time and creating huge atmospheres in the home matches could see them bully teams to get through that group. Especially when you consider that PSG finished 2nd in a group to Benfica last season whilst Dortmund are no great shakes and Milan although good, aren't one of the front runners in the competition.
with PSG i worry that if their season can only be measured by the UCL, then that puts the manager in an impossible situation. One bad game in the knockouts is enough to destroy everything.
Ultimately the only thing that matters is the internal pressure at board level and among the squad, their moves this summer suggest there isn’t immediate pressure to win in Europe, like joe said. The chose lucho or Jose and zidane , that suggests they are building a long term project
Think arsenal could struggle in Europe. Big expectations for a team who haven’t played in the UCL for years. Didn’t do well in the europa league either last year
As a barca fan, please tell me where other barca fans are expecting us to WIN the champions league?!?💀 feel like these dudes are just straight up lying about our fanbase. I’m just happy if we get out of the group, and i’d say we’re expected to challenge for the league again but everywhere i’ve seen everyone has real madrid as favorites or even atletico ahead of us.
@@seanmaddex4104where are they? Please tell me! I’m on all the big barca accounts across social media and none of them are expecting us to win the UCL💀.
I tend to avoid the barca fans so I couldn't tell you. maybe the have accepted reality but they also thought messi would rejoin them so its unclear@@thedecider4755
Ngl lads, watching this back, I may have confused myself 😂 [Zac]
everyone makes errors zachary
You sure did 😂 i Think we Got where you were going
Overrated vs underrated is a weird argument anyways
“I think Bayern won’t make the final”
@@lathanjoblindiddnt even catch that one 😂… oh zach 🫣
Team talk is the best thing on FD. Should be a weekly thing!!!!
I feel like maybe bi-weekly would be more doable..
If it's every week, I think they're going to run out of relevant topics quite quickly. I could be wrong though 🤔
I love how everyone talks up St. James’ park just completely ignoring that the yellow wall and the San Siro are two of the greatest and most intense stages you could face in world football… let’s give some respect to the continent!
Thanks for the video, hope to see this every week
PSG play Marseille at the velodrome atleast once a season, I think they can manage as well. Its like when Nasri was asked if he felt nervous captaining Arsenal at the Emirates and he explained to the reporter that he was captaining Marseille at 18. The english bias is strong with this group..
@blondizza but they ain't playing at the velodrome? St James isn't an English bias... just those other teams in their group have had champions league over the last decade while St James hasn't so they gonna be more intense just on the sheer fact that it's been so long
Overrated/Underrated is a difficult one to judge because it involves assessing the general opinion about a team as well as the objective quality of the team itself - so can be easily swayed by whatever you've seen. It's also unclear - overrated by who? Their own fans? The press opinion? You can tell from the discussion in this that the lads aren't entirely sure where each other is coming from. One suggestion could be to summarise at the start what you believe the general opinion is first, so then everyone knows what your metrics are... Otherwise you could be judging it on totally different standards to someone else.
and if we are talking about fans we also have to treat them as a monolith
Exactly! Take the ranking of a journal or the betting websites as a reference for winning the cl for example
Zac accidentally arguing the opposite of his point was awkward on the Barca question 😅
Pure waffle every pod
He does it every week he’s such a tool
He was doing so well with his point, then said the general public thinks they are the best team in the world 🤣
Love Zac
He waffles every show he’s on, I always feel like in the other shows everyone else talks as if they’ve researched their information, checked their facts etc.
Zac just speaks from his own experiences and doesn’t seem like he’s done much actual research, hence why he waffles a lot to get to his point, and hence why he sometimes has poor takes
By far the best show on this channel, keep going lads!
Glad you enjoy it mate!
(Dougie)
Can we talk about Zak saying that Barca are underrated but his argument was saying that the general public overrates them😂
Watching this now post 4-1 win has been delighting. Buzzing for the Vicar! #SMB
Mike is absolute class in this one
I agree with Joe the most , I think all his arguments were pretty valid
Think of Barca as a second-tier team that is very hard to beat, especially in defense, like Inter, and Atletico, they reach the final like that, except they have players that could make the difference and win it, kind of like Chelsea won, tho Chelsea had no business winning it, also Xavi have proven to know how to win particularly hard games, only injuries fucked him. All attacking players performed well in international break.
Wdym no business winning it
"Barca are shit but everyone still thinks they're amazing. Underrated!"
-Zac
My ranking of FD members’ ball knowledge:
1) Pat (ofc)
2) Henry
3) Dougie
4) Mike
5) Joe (he is more of a presenter and amazing at it but don’t rate his ball knowledge)
6) Zac
7) Sam
Agreed sam is terribly annoying
@@carmellavries421Zac’s smugness almost makes him tied w Sam.
I think beyond the sentiment of putting Pat first just because, I would agree all of the EFD guys have superior ball knowledge. I also think Pat gets a bit too much credit sometimes and Joe not enough but those bottom 2 really do pick themselves 😂
Oba last in ball knowledge but nr 1 in pure entertainment 😂
Pat is probably the most intelligent, that is the reason he may appear more knowledgeable.
But mccubs, Henry and Dougie watch more football, keep updated on news and peruse footy ref also.
Sadly no Sam Obasaky to deliver some golden sh*t predictions 😔😂
I always love when they stick him in the basement that’s where he belongs off the camera
He’d still have Chelsea at the top of the list.
@@J_Tevo he’s the embodiment of the people on Twitter football daily rightly make fun of but they literally employ one of those people lmao
Big thanks for the upload guys. Great content. Love teamtalk ❤
Loving team talk over monday vibes!! Hoping for insane hot takes LOL
Please tell me this is a weekly thing now??! hands down the best one!
They failed to also acknowledge that Barcelona had massive injuries to their incredible defense during the Champions League (Araujo, Christensen, and Kounde) were all out injured leaving a backline of Alonso, Eric Garcia, Pique and Roberto to deal with the likes of Bayern and Inter Milan, hell Pique was the reason Barca lost to Inter at the Camp Nou
Dougie man just grind my gears every time I tune in. Even if I didn’t know who you support I could guess.
I'd put arsenal and barca around a similar level, they also do a lot of business together
Did arsenal win epl?
These new cameras are class, the shine on dougies head is genuinly phenomenal🤝
Henry worked well as the judge. I think they should stick with him as the judge going forward
Don't know about saying Madrid will flop, but I do agree that if they want to make a serious push in the competition they need a striker.
Either that or the other players like Rodrygo, Guler and Diaz need to step up more than what we expect.
Diaz? Brahim Diaz doesn’t play much, the whole team has to step up if Real Madrid don’t buy a 9 in January
Mccubin took the p***😂 loved all of it
Could the speccy mackem be any more bitter? he’s absolutely seething 😂
Henry killed as a Team Talk host , Cheers guys ✌
Best show by far
Zak saying Barca has played good football last year shows how much he hasn't watched Barca, yes we have got results but the performances over the past 6 months have been underwhelming
Depends on your definition of good football, barca had the best defence in all of Europe last season, attack is a work in progress but I think there has been decent development of squad. We should make a decent run in CL while defending the league title acc to the squad we have.
Agree, people see the incredible defensive numbers and think we’re great, but the reality is that we play in a league where teams sit back all the time (unlike say the prem), truth is that we’ve been scraping 1 goal wins for over 6 months now
We need to reach the final or semi
We are a working progress
It takes time last season in laliga we were good
But ucl bad
@@DarrenSimpson____ ro16 at max
This show is genuinely a 10/10 with no Sam! Best FD show
Absolutely love the show lads keep it up .. but i have to say , one of oba , henry or pato need to be there 😂 pure chaos and entertainment
Remember, this european club season is the last, which will feature groups before changing to the Swiss system.
My fav debate show on YT!
Dortnund, Milan and PSG will be awestruck at St James? I’m quite sure Isak would tell you that two of the Stockholm derbies are louder and more imtimidating. Milan, Dortmund and PSG play infront ultras every week. PSG lacks experience, with two of the best players from wc final up top? But Arsenal got lots of experience in their squad?
I want what you guys are smoking!
My argument for PSG is that regardless of any other argument, they do not have the winning backbone or true warrior that will help them through the hard times. We have seen it every year that when the going gets tough, PSG crumble because they don't have a player with the character to drive/motivate the players around them
People are overrating st James park 😭😭😭😭😭the atmosphere will intimidate teams like Milan?
Who is Sunderland playing?
the amount of times Zac manages to contradict his own argument is mindboggling
Have you ever seen a mackem in Milan Dougie. 😅😅
As someone who follows the largest Barcelona fan channel on YT, I don't know what the hell Joe is smoking. Competing to win the UCL? Pretty much nobody thinks that.
I think it's rather the delusional takes from twitter from their biggest accounts. Not everyone is like that but they are the highlights in your fanbase and I'm really sorry for that.
Arsenal are expecting a semi😂 Dougie is a one of a kind.
Henry as a judge is amazing, so decisive w giving points out, no bs, on the clock.
Zac and Dougie absolutely frauding a career. Fair play to them
I love watching team talks
I don’t think any Barca fan (me included) think we are winning CL but I do think we should be making Atleast quarter finals with the type of team that we have which is why I think we are a bit underrated.
Callum Wilson over Seb Haller? Mad take that
As a Barcelona fan my expectations are Quater Finals and depending who we face but I’m not expecting to win it unless the big teams get knocked out early. That being said ion think having expectations doesn’t make us “Overrated” considering how much money was invested.
greatest show on internet
Even though I'm a milan fan. I can't believe no one is talking about inter. They are strong.
Why is no one talking about the keeper situation of Bayern, they don't have a class keeper right now, and keeper is a very strong position to win the CL
Henry did amazing at hosting and judging
Chelsea fan but so refreshing to not see obesikis bias
I'd love a city madrid game in the final it looks tasty
Petition for fans to suggest team talk topics
Red bull has given Mickey some questionable wings
In the time that Man City and PSG have had their “dominant” era, Bayern has won more league titles and two trebles. So acting like Bayern has underachieved is such an odd take
Since they won in 2020 , bayern have been embarrassing in the ucl knockout.
Obviously we can’t compare bayern to psg
@@DJJ616Embarrassing is quite harsh. But using that logic, City were absolutely dreadful until last year but that’s not held against them
@@hello7032 it is , at least it was despite everything they had done in the prem city were always criticised for their lack of ucl success
For me the biggest criticism of bayern is their inability to translate elite group stage performance to knockout games
@@DJJ616 Yeah i just think the criticisms of City in that era was more based on irrational kind of knocks against Pep and city, while the criticism of Bayern is exaggerated against their team/players if that makes sense? City-“oh city will never win because they don’t have that history” is a silly take imo but the Bayern criticism always read to me like “Bayern won’t win because their team defense is poor and the depth is lacking/manager is poor”. So two different exaggerations but of the same magnitude.
Very interesting
No sam lets go
Arsenal for the quadruple 🏆🏆🏆🏆
I actually understand Zac’s argument even though he confused himself. The general public *still* rate Barcelona, whereas the pundits overrate them. Accordingly, they’re underrated because the odds makers and tacticos are very negative about them, and they’re the ones who make the most of the content. People who really watch and pay attention to Barcelona know what they’re capable of; others do not, and most people are not Barcelona fans.
i think Bayern are clearly the 2nd favorites behind City just because Madrid have this huge hole in their team at striker without Benzema, and PSG you can't trust. Barcelona are overrated because i think Lewandowski is declining, they lost Dembele, and just overall they lack depth & experience in the Champions League. City are huge favorites to repeat.
As a barca fan, quarter finals is being hopefull. Barca fans aren't delusional, we know the team isn't what it was but we remain optimistic. Btw i think man utd fans and chelsea fans are the most delusional. .
Surprised no one picked Man City vs Munich for the final
Dougie has absolutely NO knowledge of European football. How he can claim to be an expert on European football is beyond me.
Inter Milan are really underated btw I am an Arsenal fan
no Sam, LESSGOOOO
Dougie winning that with some of that rational is absurd
Dembele, Asensio and Danilo are known to choke in big matches. They'll struggle at Newcastle United
Can we have pat on team talk more often
What happened to the time stamps mate
Bayern won the sextuple like 3 years ago. Next year they went vs PSG without Lewandowski and Gnabry(if they were fit they were going to win it back to back). Man city would've been much closer if Nagelsmann wasn't sacked. The only season they massively underperformed was the Villareal one, there's no excuse for that. Quite ignorant comments about them regarding the UCL.
FD has such odd stances on Bayern
@@hello7032 this point in particular was pretty ignorant cause a lot happened outside the pitch that affected players on the pitch. They rate Bayern highly and are most of the time objective but they sometimes say some stupid generic thing without checking.
@@flaviantanase1889 Yeah that’s my thing too. I’m a Bayern fan so I’ll admit bias, it’s just that sometimes their criticisms of Bayern are wildly subjective and don’t align with the facts. While there’s plenty to actually criticize them over, FD adds in extra that I believe is rooted in Premier league bias.
With the crop of talent they've had to only win it once in the last 10 years during the COVID season is definitely underperforming.
@@samotian0331 my brother in Christ they’ve won two trebles in the last decade. FD creamed their pants when city did it last year
City vs Leipzig, let's GOOOOO!!!! 😂
Joe’s only one who’s confident about Arsenal fds Dougie hates us
love the show but less underrated/overrated, it always ends up in an argument over what the words mean lol
As a Bayern fan I can comfortably say we are overrated. Mainly due to the fact that Tuchel as a coach is insanely overrated. Ever since he took over, our performances have been nothing short of horrendous. He has managed up to this point 18 games, only getting a 55% winrate (3 draws and 5 losses). In of itslef doesn't look that bad, but if you look at the goal difference, we scored 37 goals and conceded 27. How on earth can that be considered as a top candidate for the champions league. Let's also not forget how many of the wins were insanely close 1 goal margin victories: 5!!! And the eye test confirms this, we play shocking football more often than not, were chances are not converted and 3 counter attacks lead to 3 goals. Don't get me wrong, the players at our disposal are definitly talented enough to win the champions league (with the exception of Bouna Sarr, Ulreich and Upamecano), but with this coach we have no chance. I'd be surprised if we even get a chance to the semi final.
Honestly that Chelsea fan always waffles without logic and ends up getting eating his own words
Bayern won the Sextuple recently & just added one of the best striker in the world to their squad. I think they’re underrated if there’s opinions like this
Great show 🙂
Is it me or does McCubbin looks like he is wearing a Yarmulke with his unusual haircut?
Final Question if Sam Obaseki was here
Sam: Chelsea
Gundogan overhyped? 🤣🤣 Most clutch player in last few years. He deserved his flowers
No Barca fan thinks we would win the champions league but ofc you don't rate us so we would be called delusional.
Ngl Dougie bodied this team talk
Id say most barca fans id talk to are very contemt with just reaching a QF. Unless its thos fams who say penaldo or vardrid
Cool I don’t have to listen to Sam find a way to bring chelsea into everything
And yet you’ve done it for him
@@hello7032😂😂😂😂
he's a Sunderland fan but he's got an extremely posh Southern accent and wears Inter Milan shirts? how is he a Sunderland fan, exactly?
Because he supports Sunderland that’s how it works the team you support is the team you’re a fan of
Barcelona did so well in the la Liga because of the referee situation
Retarded comment how many penalties was barcelina given last season? We can't even spend much money because of Tebas but yet Real Madrid and Atletico get to spend their ass off
You clearly didn't watch any Barça match
@@playboyx007 in the rigged La Liga or getting slapped in CL?
Bukayo Saka have Achilles injury
Barca was tough, they are what they are atm. Neither overrated or underrated, realistically just mediocre compared to the other competition. Great content as always, when does Star Wars start up again? always enjoy watching Henry bottling it worse than arsenal in a title run
I think psg should improve their midfield their midfield has always been dominated by the big teams.Keep up the good work love your content
Yeah, they are underrating Newcastle. There's every chance that being back in the champions league for the first time in a long time and creating huge atmospheres in the home matches could see them bully teams to get through that group. Especially when you consider that PSG finished 2nd in a group to Benfica last season whilst Dortmund are no great shakes and Milan although good, aren't one of the front runners in the competition.
Mikey’s take on Barcelona being weaker this year than last year is horrendous
Stat Wars soon please
what barca fan thinks we are a champions league contender 🤣
PSG will be far too reliante on Mbappe for goals to get semi final or better in UCL
with PSG i worry that if their season can only be measured by the UCL, then that puts the manager in an impossible situation. One bad game in the knockouts is enough to destroy everything.
Ultimately the only thing that matters is the internal pressure at board level and among the squad, their moves this summer suggest there isn’t immediate pressure to win in Europe, like joe said.
The chose lucho or Jose and zidane , that suggests they are building a long term project
Think arsenal could struggle in Europe. Big expectations for a team who haven’t played in the UCL for years. Didn’t do well in the europa league either last year
My head hurts
As a barca fan, please tell me where other barca fans are expecting us to WIN the champions league?!?💀 feel like these dudes are just straight up lying about our fanbase. I’m just happy if we get out of the group, and i’d say we’re expected to challenge for the league again but everywhere i’ve seen everyone has real madrid as favorites or even atletico ahead of us.
The vocal Barca fans tend to get as carried away as obaseki
@@seanmaddex4104where are they? Please tell me! I’m on all the big barca accounts across social media and none of them are expecting us to win the UCL💀.
I tend to avoid the barca fans so I couldn't tell you. maybe the have accepted reality but they also thought messi would rejoin them so its unclear@@thedecider4755
@@thedecider4755leave them with their bias talk . They expect an English team or Real Madrid to win UCL that's their mindset
under/overrated has so many layers of objectiveness it makes for horrid discussions
As good as team talk is, the over and underrated section is kind of weird. Its a bit of a dead question