DIGITAL FOUNDRY's video was really great... DLDSR is, IMO, the most promising feature coming to games (I guess it's technically here but it's a work in progress). The ability to make OLDER games look and run better is amazing. Some games will look BETTER than they would otherwise look even when brute-forcing 4K+ MAX quality because DLSS' upscaling can SOMETIMES make aliasing or other issues better that the game engine just can't.
I’ve only just discovered this feature after having my gaming PC for almost 5 years there is totally not enough recognition for this feature and I’m quite tech savvy so I’m shocked I’ve been missing out for so long, I have a 1080p monitor and began to give up and loss my enjoyment for gaming as TAA and AA began to look worse and worse on newly released games at 1080p resolution making them look blurry and fuzzy despite what ever settings I messed with now after discovering DSR (2.5x) I could literally cry with joy, RDR2 for example now looks incredible.
At 1080p this feature SHINES. Old DSR at 4x as always looked great since it pretty much perfectly downscales in a 4 to 1 ratio so edges are super clean and not aliased but being able to now run DLDSR 2.25x at get very close to the image quality of old DSR 4x is trully game changing in a lot of games
I just discovered this feature and started replaying old games in a 1440p monitor and 2.25 scaling. No amount of MSAA can match the crispness of the image with very good performance. I use a bit of MSAA for increased quality, it looks amazing.
Dldsr is a game changer, I tested it on fallen order on a 1080p screen with a 3060rtx running @ 1620p. The difference is remarkable, even on epic setting I was getting 90 -100fps and it just looks gorgeous 😍
I also have an RTX3090 running at 1440p at 120fps and now I leave my desktop with DLDSR running at 4K at all times. This actually makes text in word documents very clean and smooth whereas I could see pixels around fonts before. I’m a writer full time and game on breaks so this DLDSR has worked out incredibly for me.
Dldsr only help if you have extra fps to trade for image quality, so if you are already only getting 60fps any Dldsr setting will push you under 60fps and I’m pretty sure you don’t want that
My question is: Is the performance of 1620p ----> 1080p DLDSR 2.25x Approximately the same as Native 1620p? I want to know if my 3060 RTX 12GB will be able to play Rise of The Tomb Raider (RoTTR) at 2.25x DLDSR (on my 1080p Monitor) RoTTR has some very bad shimmering. Notoriously bad I would say, as I have been told that even with 4K DSR (the old one) shimmering cannot be eliminated. Subscribed by the way :D
Excellent video. I've been loving this feature. I have a 3080 desktop pair with a 1440P 144hz monitor and a 3080 Max P laptop that has a 1080P 144hz monitor. Both have performance headroom on table in relationship to the native monitor they are paired with so enabling this is an instant boost to imagine quality while still staying at 60fps or above. Finally some consumer friendly moves by Nvidia but of course you need an RTX card.
Running red dead redemption 2 everything ultra 1point in water physics and tree tessellation:off on 5k with dlss:quality looks way better than native 1440p with 1.5x image scaling and medium TAA same settings. And runs really smooth
I haven’t seen it in action yet! Will try to find which games support it in order to see if there’s enough of them to make a full video but no plans on making none just yet!
Hey. Fellow portuguese (i assumed) here. What do you mean setting desktop resolution? I didnt understand. Is that different from enabling dlsr resolutions on nvidia control panel?
Well assumed 😄. Desktop resolution means changing your actual desktop resolution before entering the game to one of the two new dldsr resolutions in the windows display settings
@@carlosribeiroo awesome! mhm ok thanks... thats a bit annoying as it screws up the dpi... you're right, a plug and play solution would be perfect. Btw cool content, keep up!
Well......The Boys at Digital Foundry sure work fast! They still managed to launch their video a whole hour before mine! ua-cam.com/video/c3voyiojWl4/v-deo.html Hope you still enjoy it!
It depends on what you are looking for and what type of AA we are talking about. In most cases the image will look better with AA and if you have performance to spare use it!
I have GTX 1080, so no DLSS... In No Man's Sky I was able to use DSR 4x in the nVidia driver and FSR Performance in the game settings… Basically, it upscales to 4K with FSR tech and then downscales back to 1080p with nVidia tech… Gives very good image quality with less aliasing and blurriness than native 1080p with TAA with almost the same performance…
Just enable it in the driver first and then change your resolution in game to the two new available resolutions. Some games don’t support this, and you have to change your desktop resolution before entering the game for the new res to apply
Yes. You can also change the resolution of your desktop before entering the game and in certain scenarios that results in marginally better image quality, but I honestly wouldn't bother with doing that for every game
Well if you have extra performance you can get even more detailed image but it may be difficult since running anything at higher then 4k is pretty difficult
Yes. Effectively this combo simulates something similar to DLAA without needing any support from the game engine (other than support for dlss of course)
@@carlosribeiroo i am talking about LG 27gp850 i want the setting u applied on ur monitor.... for clear sharp colour on ur screen 🙂 #__and i really appreciate ur work buddy ☺️👍
Well every monitor is different, even the same monitor will look different from sample to sample. I changed the default color profile rgb balance to 47 red, 50 green and 46 blue and then calibrated it like I shared on a video with a i1displaypro with displaycal
Yes. Already being at 4k makes it extra hard for any gpu to have headroom but maybe in the future you will have the headroom and Dldsr is going to sim be an option
You are looking at the wrong panel in the control panel, just leave all those on their default. All you need to do is add the DLDSR resolutions in the Manage 3d settings/DSR Factors
If you are looking for the best possible quality and have the performance to afford it, 2.25x DLDSR with DLSS quality mode is in a lot of games your best option
I didn't test it, but right now I am playing red dead for the first time and I am using DLDSR to 4k with 50% smoothing on the driver and DLSS quality and the quality/performance is excellent. Keep in mind that you have to deal with the forced sharpness with dlss and currently the best way is simple to replace the DLSS .dll file in the game folder with version DLSS version 2.5.1
@@carlosribeiroo Thanks man! Yeah DLDSR is insane combined with the newest DLSS, i am getting even more clear picture and better fps then 1080p with 1.25x native increase
Hey! I kind of see what you mean but he focused much more on showing the details of the Downscale method and that in it self was pretty well done! Definitely different approaches to the same topic but I’m glad you enjoyed my take on this matter
It upscales the image to approximate a 4k resolution. Many say they see no difference between that and native 4k and a small fraction says they even like it more than native.
DIGITAL FOUNDRY's video was really great... DLDSR is, IMO, the most promising feature coming to games (I guess it's technically here but it's a work in progress). The ability to make OLDER games look and run better is amazing. Some games will look BETTER than they would otherwise look even when brute-forcing 4K+ MAX quality because DLSS' upscaling can SOMETIMES make aliasing or other issues better that the game engine just can't.
I’ve only just discovered this feature after having my gaming PC for almost 5 years there is totally not enough recognition for this feature and I’m quite tech savvy so I’m shocked I’ve been missing out for so long, I have a 1080p monitor and began to give up and loss my enjoyment for gaming as TAA and AA began to look worse and worse on newly released games at 1080p resolution making them look blurry and fuzzy despite what ever settings I messed with now after discovering DSR (2.5x) I could literally cry with joy, RDR2 for example now looks incredible.
At 1080p this feature SHINES. Old DSR at 4x as always looked great since it pretty much perfectly downscales in a 4 to 1 ratio so edges are super clean and not aliased but being able to now run DLDSR 2.25x at get very close to the image quality of old DSR 4x is trully game changing in a lot of games
Whoa this is good news. I found out about dldsr because I just installed Spider-man Remastered and it looks terrible on 1080p.
1080p DLDSR is a game changer for me... from 4x DSR to 2.25x DLDSR for those sweet sweet frames and still great image quality.
I just discovered this feature and started replaying old games in a 1440p monitor and 2.25 scaling. No amount of MSAA can match the crispness of the image with very good performance. I use a bit of MSAA for increased quality, it looks amazing.
Dldsr is a game changer, I tested it on fallen order on a 1080p screen with a 3060rtx running @ 1620p. The difference is remarkable, even on epic setting I was getting 90 -100fps and it just looks gorgeous 😍
I also have an RTX3090 running at 1440p at 120fps and now I leave my desktop with DLDSR running at 4K at all times. This actually makes text in word documents very clean and smooth whereas I could see pixels around fonts before. I’m a writer full time and game on breaks so this DLDSR has worked out incredibly for me.
What about 2160p at 60fps is there settings where dldsr would help
Dldsr only help if you have extra fps to trade for image quality, so if you are already only getting 60fps any Dldsr setting will push you under 60fps and I’m pretty sure you don’t want that
DLDSR makes 1080p in games look so much better
Absolutely! Even at 1440p the difference can be pretty massive at times
My question is:
Is the performance of 1620p ----> 1080p DLDSR 2.25x
Approximately the same as Native 1620p?
I want to know if my 3060 RTX 12GB will be able to play Rise of The Tomb Raider (RoTTR) at 2.25x DLDSR (on my 1080p Monitor)
RoTTR has some very bad shimmering. Notoriously bad I would say, as I have been told that even with 4K DSR (the old one) shimmering cannot be eliminated.
Subscribed by the way :D
If 2.25x dldsr is 1620p on a 1080p monitor then the performance of it will be very similar to just native 1620p
A very informative video
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Excellent video. I've been loving this feature. I have a 3080 desktop pair with a 1440P 144hz monitor and a 3080 Max P laptop that has a 1080P 144hz monitor. Both have performance headroom on table in relationship to the native monitor they are paired with so enabling this is an instant boost to imagine quality while still staying at 60fps or above. Finally some consumer friendly moves by Nvidia but of course you need an RTX card.
Running red dead redemption 2 everything ultra 1point in water physics and tree tessellation:off on 5k with dlss:quality looks way better than native 1440p with 1.5x image scaling and medium TAA same settings. And runs really smooth
Are you going to do a video on the new Nvidia filters that came with this driver update? The rayrtacing one looks amazing in tomb raider.
I haven’t seen it in action yet! Will try to find which games support it in order to see if there’s enough of them to make a full video but no plans on making none just yet!
@@carlosribeiroo it's quite hard to find compatible games that supports ssrtgi, tho some single player series works and are compatible with it
Hey. Fellow portuguese (i assumed) here. What do you mean setting desktop resolution? I didnt understand. Is that different from enabling dlsr resolutions on nvidia control panel?
Well assumed 😄. Desktop resolution means changing your actual desktop resolution before entering the game to one of the two new dldsr resolutions in the windows display settings
@@carlosribeiroo awesome! mhm ok thanks... thats a bit annoying as it screws up the dpi... you're right, a plug and play solution would be perfect. Btw cool content, keep up!
Im thinking to buy 7500f + 4070s combo . It has a little cpu bottleneck at 1080p . Do you think DLDSR can solve this cpu bottleneck problem ?
Well......The Boys at Digital Foundry sure work fast!
They still managed to launch their video a whole hour before mine!
ua-cam.com/video/c3voyiojWl4/v-deo.html
Hope you still enjoy it!
If I use DLDSR 2.25x in-game, should I turn off Anti-Aliasing in the in-game options? (I use a native 1440p Monitor) ?
It depends on what you are looking for and what type of AA we are talking about. In most cases the image will look better with AA and if you have performance to spare use it!
with dldsr, whenever you use it (xx), does it tell you what resolution it will bee below the setting?
I have GTX 1080, so no DLSS... In No Man's Sky I was able to use DSR 4x in the nVidia driver and FSR Performance in the game settings… Basically, it upscales to 4K with FSR tech and then downscales back to 1080p with nVidia tech… Gives very good image quality with less aliasing and blurriness than native 1080p with TAA with almost the same performance…
I use 1.75 scale for 4k native and picture quality is incredible like I have 8k screen
how do i enable it in game
Just enable it in the driver first and then change your resolution in game to the two new available resolutions. Some games don’t support this, and you have to change your desktop resolution before entering the game for the new res to apply
GTA IV is dam good with this
How do I use it?
I go to nvidia control panel and select it and then what?
I have set my pc to 1440p.
Do I change anything else?
You add the extra resolutions in the 3d settings tab
The dldsr resolutions are marked accordingly
Hi bro. So what I gotta do is enable dsr in nvidia settings and increase resolution in game right?
Yes.
You can also change the resolution of your desktop before entering the game and in certain scenarios that results in marginally better image quality, but I honestly wouldn't bother with doing that for every game
@@carlosribeiroo thanks man. I tried it on rdr2. I have a 1080p monitor and enable 1440p. Definitely looks more detailed.
great video.thanks for sharing does this do anything if using a 4k oled tv with 120 hz.
Well if you have extra performance you can get even more detailed image but it may be difficult since running anything at higher then 4k is pretty difficult
DLSS is Downscaling and then go back to native Resolution. And DLDSR is Upscaling and then go back to native Resolution. Is that right?
Yes. Effectively this combo simulates something similar to DLAA without needing any support from the game engine (other than support for dlss of course)
ur lg monitor edit color looks op
plz give me the info
i want to do the same 😊😊😊
You have to be a little more clear I don’t understand what you want from me 🤓
@@carlosribeiroo i am talking about LG 27gp850
i want the setting u applied on ur monitor.... for clear sharp colour on ur screen 🙂
#__and i really appreciate ur work buddy ☺️👍
Well every monitor is different, even the same monitor will look different from sample to sample. I changed the default color profile rgb balance to 47 red, 50 green and 46 blue and then calibrated it like I shared on a video with a i1displaypro with displaycal
So if you don't have the headroom (3070) and already playing at 4K then it's of no use?
Yes. Already being at 4k makes it extra hard for any gpu to have headroom but maybe in the future you will have the headroom and Dldsr is going to sim be an option
what scaling i need to use ? gpu or monitor scaling and do i need full screen or keep aspect ratio gpu 3080
You are looking at the wrong panel in the control panel, just leave all those on their default.
All you need to do is add the DLDSR resolutions in the Manage 3d settings/DSR Factors
thanks
So with my 21/9, =dldsr 2.25 and dlss quality? Is it the best way to go? Tx
If you are looking for the best possible quality and have the performance to afford it, 2.25x DLDSR with DLSS quality mode is in a lot of games your best option
@@carlosribeiroo thanks,You just got a new subscriber!
@@martindescoteaux9288 thanks ☺️ happy to help!
idk... It makes everything so small, u cant even read text anymore.
It depends a lot on the game, some games scale UI very well and the text is kept in a similar size
I wish you also tested Read Dead Redemption 2
I didn't test it, but right now I am playing red dead for the first time and I am using DLDSR to 4k with 50% smoothing on the driver and DLSS quality and the quality/performance is excellent. Keep in mind that you have to deal with the forced sharpness with dlss and currently the best way is simple to replace the DLSS .dll file in the game folder with version DLSS version 2.5.1
@@carlosribeiroo Thanks man! Yeah DLDSR is insane combined with the newest DLSS, i am getting even more clear picture and better fps then 1080p with 1.25x native increase
It truly is great :)
This is better than the DF video about DLDSR. Why on earth has Alex tested this on an RTX 2060 with no power to spare?
Hey! I kind of see what you mean but he focused much more on showing the details of the Downscale method and that in it self was pretty well done! Definitely different approaches to the same topic but I’m glad you enjoyed my take on this matter
Dldsr needs consume more GPU power and my GPU get overheat also
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It's not 4k, it's UHD. Thx. I don't know why everybody is making this mistake
It upscales the image to approximate a 4k resolution. Many say they see no difference between that and native 4k and a small fraction says they even like it more than native.
@@chrisking6695 I was talking about the difference between 4K and UHD. It's definitely not the same.
I was not talking about upscaling :)
a big Dislike for the poor stupid video, you should have shown side by side comprasion for dldsr on vs off while explaning.