You absolutely nailed it Oscar. Orta became poisonous and now we have Radrizzani hanging around making the boardroom toxic and moribund. I fear for the future of the club in terms of it's ability to mount a campaign to return to the Premier League, first time of asking. A complete clear out is needed at boardroom level and squad level to make a serious promotion charge.
thats what we need, but seriously, do you think we will be bought up, change board, and change squad within 8 weeks? that is not gonna happen within 2 months, at best, it can happen within 2 years.
Marcelo bielsa was basically playing the killer formation in cm93 he was able to power along 11 average players to a level that was beyond them. But when it went wrong it went wrong spectacularly. ..
@@1977Futre Real Madrid got hammered by Man City. It could have been a lot more. Liverpool lost 7-2 at Villa. But people go on like it was just Bielsa.
“A champagne ego with lemonade talent” 👏🏼👏🏼 couldn’t have said it better myself. Much thanks to you and the team for the videos this season, although we’ll be in the championship next season, I’ll still be looking forward to your videos. I hope you enjoy a well deserved break! See you guys in august MOT!
The defence was shite in the play off at Elland Road against Derby at our first crack at promotion..It’s still shite now, with some of the same players..They used to be beaten in league 1 let alone the premiership..It has been clear as mud that we needed defenders years ago..Poor management..Why didn’t we get a proven striker..Thanks Oscar..MOT!
Every point spot on mate!!! Lacklustre of passion and skill ....that 4th goal sums the season all up...we never even addressed our shortfall of defence to start with. Life in that championship is gonna tuff. Strap in again boys.
Everton fan here. I am gutted Leeds are down, spent a tense afternoon with one of your guys last game last season v Brentford when thankfully like my team EFC we survived. Everton have winged it again, big changes needed at our club. 🎉Leeds are premiership, looking forward to your return.
Very passionately said and absolutely correct Oscar. I can't see us getting promoted next season because we have no infrastructure, no Manager, Sporting Director etc. The buy out has to happen yesterday so I hope there's a plan in place.
As a long serving LUFC steward (not G&F), I really appreciate your comment, I was stood at the bottom of the East Stand thinking I could get a few punches. Broke up 4 fights at half time, people were drunk and emotional. If I see you wondering about the East Stand pre match again next season I'll give you a cheer.
Well said Oscar very passionate with feeling, shame the players don't show the same sort of passion if they had we wouldn't be in this mess now, but we will march on together cos we are Leeds, fingers crossed it gets sorted sooner rather than later then we go again MOT ALAW
Well said Oscar,,Apart from the 1st season, our time in the prem as been sole destroying, very little enjoyment , at times I’ve struggled to find the effort to make the trip down to my beloved elland rd , looking forward to a fresh start and hopefully a new and exciting Leeds utd rebuild, long time season ticket holder ,
That’s a fine speech Oscar which sums up the club perfectly.. We need big changes because this team is not good enough in the Championship to get back to the premiership.. I played in defence at a reasonable level the defending from Leeds is possibly the worst I have ever seen diabolical doesn’t even get close.. I hope Raz gets out completely and maybe the 49rs will have a big clear out and reset..
I enjoyed your unbiased views on group chat streams the past couple of months. As a Forest fan I'll miss them next season, but just wanted to show appreciation to Oscar
Oscar you’ve absolutely nailed it - we haven’t had a PL quality defence for years let’s be honest Lucas even at his age now would defend better than this lot. Most of the goals conceded were not because of an opponent’s individual brilliance but because our so called defence basically gifted them a goal and the last spurs goal completely typifies our defenders lack of defending talent - once Cooper missed his tackle the guy walked through and scored. A complete overhaul is needed which hopefully will include some actual defenders! MOT
Brilliant analysis of the season Oscar. Agree with everything you’ve said. Huge job ahead to get us back on an even keel. Are 49ers taking over now? A personal thank you for the hard work you’ve put in this season at ALTV. We go again. #MOT #ALAW
Well said Oscar. I think Rodrigo, Tyler Adams and Jack Harrison are the only players that have shown some good form this season. Failure of the majority of signings killed us.
The thing about Bielsa was that he brought a plan and a mindset to the club. He wasn’t perfect, but he looks better after seeing who followed. Marsch was not an attempt to build upon what Bielsa created, despite that being claimed by management at the time. Radz, Orta and Kinnear are responsible for what’s occurred. That’s why the 49rs need to grab the reins ASAP, and sort things out. The club has become a shambles because of lack of investment in proper, experienced first team players. I’m not saying don’t invest in youth teamers, I’m saying don’t do so at the expense of first teamers. We plainly needed good defenders and proven strikers and got neither. Hence we are here.
Apologies this is lengthy all..... Side before self is bandied all around Elland Road. Unfortunately there's no one involved with the playing staff (present coaching team excepted) or in the board room that has bought into that phrase. As a club we haven't been at the races since we gained promotion back to the premier league and personally I hold two people accountable for our relegation. Chairman Andrea Radrizzani and our former head of football Victor Orta. Everything that's happened in the soap opera known as Leeds United shows that Marcelo Bielsa was papering over cracks that turned into huge chasms once he'd departed. So where did it all go wrong?. Andrea Radrizzani So we'll start at the top. Andrea has done some bloody good things at Leeds United and as a bloke he's a really nice fella. He even made me a cuppa once so he can't be all bad can he 😀 He readily admits he knows nothing about football, and as such employing someone who does would be a good move. So how on earth did he end up employing Victor Orta?. And why oh! why did he then give him free rein to do as he pleased with no accountability at all for his actions until it was too late. Andrea has failed the club by not bringing him to task over a recruitment policy that ultimately cost us relegation and will cost the club millions. Victor Orta I'd never heard of him until he turned up at at Leeds. But a quick google search gave me all the info I needed to conclude the bloke was a fraud and I said so. I was even called out about it. The only person who thought he was any good was Victor himself. Steve Gibson at Boro' and the people at Zenit paint a far different picture of Victor Orta than the one he offers. HIS transfer policy for it was HIS and HIS alone was flawed to say the least. But we'll get to that. Marcelo Bielsa Credit where it's due to the chairman and Victor Orta for landing Marcelo Bielsa in the first place. Because whatever they said to him they got their man. It was a coup of the highest order. But I never bought into Orta patting himself on the back, simply because every coach of a certain age or someone who enjoys South American football in general could have told you all about Marcelo Bielsa, he wasn't really a secret. Journalist Tim Vickery who's been based in Brazil for over 25 years and who used to write for World Soccer (which is where I first read about Marcelo Bielsa in the 1990s) could have told the board all about him. Christ they could even have asked me and I'd have told them all about him for nowt. Transfer Policy Buying players isn't rocket science. All you have to do is bring in better players than the ones you already have, it's simple. Victor Orta said his model was based on Leicester City's, buy cheap and sell high. Eg: Riyad Mahrez bought from Le Havre for £400k and sold to Man City for £60m. But he didn't do that did he. He bought bang average players for the first team for anything between £15m and £35m. This will make it very difficult for the club to get anywhere near their outlay bar the odd player back due to relegation. What was also worrying to me was that in his first two weeks at Leeds, Bielsa sold, loaned out, or released 16 players of which 14 were Victor Orta signings. No alarm bells ringing or questions for Orta. Did he actually go and watch the players he signed in the flesh or did he just sit in his office watching videos players sent him?. Because no player on this earth or Fuller's is going to send him a video of all their worst bits are they?. You don't need to be a scout or head of football to come to that conclusion, common sense tells you that. Orta signed players from ajax, Bayern, Barca and Juventus. But he never managed to work out that had they been any good they'd have been playing in their first teams and the reasons they were selling them, were A) they didn't think they were good enough and B) Orta offered inflated fees for them. NONE of them were good enough as our relegation shows. Still no alarm bells ringing. Also when signing Georginio Ruttter did the chairman or anyone else on the board for that matter not ask him what he had seen in a player who had scored just 2 goals in 15 games for Hoffenheim and who Victor Orta was about to make Leeds' record signing and give him £62k a week. Now Rutter may come good in the future but for £35m quid we needed the finished article not potential. Another laughable signing was that of Jean-Kevin Augustin on loan from RB Leipzig. That could cost Leeds millions if they lose their appeal. Again does this not show Victor Orta's miss management over his transfer dealings?. And don't forget, three managers now haven't picked him. Yet still no alarm bells ringing. Young Players Now we have an academy to sign young players. Adam does a bloody good job and it's one of the most revered academies in the world. But one of Victors key policies was to trawl the world and come up with young players he could sign for the club in the hope of selling them on for big money in the future. Now there's nothing wrong at all with taking a punt on a player. Signing Joe Gelhardt from Wigan for £1m is taking a punt. Spending £35m on a young player isn't a punt, it's financial suicide. So is putting a young player who was never going to get anywhere near the first team on £30k a week and who you then release on a free transfer later down the line. Again it shows Orta's inept scattergun approach to transfers whether for the first, youth or development teams. But yet still no alarm bells are ringing. Promotion Upon gaining promotion to the premier league and well done all concerned. Wouldn't you have thought that it would have been a good idea to back the manager and get in players he wanted?. Sadly the club didn't and it was left to Victor Orta to recruit players for the first team. The biggest myth at the club was the one surrounding Marcelo Bielsa wanting a small squad and the signing of players. Board members came out and said to the fans that Marcelo was offered this and that player, but NOT the players that he felt would improve the squad. It's well documented now that the board lied to the supporters and backed Orta, when they should have backed their manager. But yet again and possibly to cover their backsides, still no questions or alarm bells ringing. Now there are always rumours flying around Elland Road. But if they're true this is where the fun and games really start. So here we go. Due to influence from the 49ers, it is alleged that Leeds were offered both Brenden Aaronson and Rasmus Kristensen upon gaining promotion and Bielsa chose not to sign either of them because he didn't think they were any better than what he already had. (Read my point about transfer policy). It is believed Bielsa wanted to sign an Argentinian international possibly Rodrigo De Paul and a midfielder from Sampdoria but these two players would have cost Leeds £20m more than Aaronson and Kristensen. Orta signed Helder Costa, Ilian Meslier, Rodrigo, Robin Koch, Diego Llorente and Raphinha. None of these pulled up any trees. Though credit to Orta as for once he actually made a profit on selling Raphinha. Neither player Bielsa wanted was signed. Another rumour floating around was that the 49ers saw Bielsa's decision not to sign Aaronson and Kristensen as a slap in the face and wanted to sack him after Leeds' first season back in the premier league. But after finishing 9th and fearing a backlash by the Elland Road faithful they decided against it. From that moment on it was a case of when Bielsa was going to be sacked rather than if. Part 2 in the comments
Jesse Marsch and staying up So after the sacking of Marcelo Bielsa and an alleged even bigger influence from the 49ers the club appoint Jesse Marsch. Which may explain the subsequent signings of Brenden Aaronson and Rasmus Kristensen from Red Bull Salzburg. Remember Bielsa didn't think they were good enough, and after our relegation he was probably right. Again I have nothing against Jesse Marsc. Again I'd never heard of him until he was linked with the Leeds job. We were told Marsch was similar to Bielsa in how he set his teams up but he wasn't. In fact he didn't seem to know what he was doing. But there is nothing on Marsch's cv that should get him anywhere near a job in the conference never mind the premier league. In my opinion Marsch got the job because of the influence of the 49ers and was American. After miraculously avoiding relegation on the last day of the season. Orta and the board in their wisdom decide to sell our two best players and biggest assets. Kalvin Phillips and Raphinha. Why would you do that?. To this day I just can't work it out. I get the fees up to a point and I still think we sold them on the cheap. But their value to us was all about what they gave us on the pitch. Even more so when you think they were replaced by players who weren't as good as them We needed to add to the team to strengthen it not sell our better players and weaken it (again read my point about transfer policy). Javi Gracia, Orta goes and Big Sam Next to have a bash to save us from the drop was Javi Gracia and to say his appointment was a surprise is an understatement. What was even more surprising was that if media reports were true he was so far down the list he wasn't even on it. As half a dozen coaches all distanced themselves from taking over the ER hot seat. Gracia was probably the only one who returned Orta's call. Yet again the lack of planning from Orta once the club had decided to sack Marsch is unforgivable. Anyway after a positive start the wheels started to fall off and screech had to go. Only this time the alarm bells were ringing like Big Ben on New Year's Eve and finally Orta fell on his sword and went with him. I like Big Sam but not even I thought he'd keep us up. He probably would have if he'd replaced Marsch, and we'd definitely have been up to the dizzy heights of mid table mediocrity had he come in after Bielsa. But alas we're here because of poor recruitment. What would I have done?. No point calling Orta out if I didn't have a plan myself eh!. I would have strengthened the spine of the team with experienced players who had premier league experience. So GK, two centre backs, midfield player and an out an out #9. My first port of call would have been Anfield and I'd tried to have signed James Milner. Two reasons for this, firstly. His influence around the place and the standards he'd set for those around him to aspire too. Promoting "good habits" as they say in football. 2nd. It would lift the fan base as he's "coming home" it also sets your stall out that you mean business. GK. I'd have got one of Jack Butland, Ben Foster or Fraser Forster again for two reasons. 1. Personally I think our keepers are the best. 2. Experience. For exactly what happened to Meslier since the turn of the year, and to help him through it. His confidence was shot and it was something that he wasn't going to play through. He needed taking out of the team. I could see it. Why couldn't Marsch or Gracia?. Sam did it within a week. #9. I'd have signed Danny Ings. We'd have got him for around £10m or £12m and signed a player who has the experience needed when moving to a higher decision. We wouldn't have then wasted over £50 million on Rodrigo and Rutter. Nothing against either but they aren't worth anywhere near what we paid for them. Orta's flawed judgement again?. But if we were going to take a punt why didn't we go for Viktor Gyokeres of Coventry City. 46 games 21 goals in the championship. He wouldn't have cost us anywhere near £35m, he will now, rumour is he's off to Wolves in the summer. Ollie Watkins was another I'd have brought in because he can play anywhere across the front line, as a #10 and gets on the scoresheet regularly and is better than Helder Costa, Ian Poveda, Tyler Roberts and Dan James put together. Plus if you want a small squad he gives you lots of options. Eberechi Eze is another who can play in a number of positions and is better than what we ended up with. Centre back Michael Hector was one I'd have signed. He always had a good game against us and is comfortable on the ball. Which helps if you wanna play out. I'd have done a Leicester too and gone down the old pro route in the vein of a Wes Morgan, Robert Huth type. Players who know what it takes to play at the top level. We let Pablo Hernandez, Mateusz Klich, Ezgjan Alioski, Gaetano Berardi, Kalvin Phillips and Raphinha all go. We replaced them player wise but did we replace them with the same quality?. I don't think so. If there wasn't a better option available why not give them an extra year or two and bide yourself some time until you identify better players to come in?. But that wasn't Orta's way was it. His way was all about his own ego. NONE of the players brought in were good enough, that's why we went down and they certainly weren't as good as the ones above that Orta allowed to leave. Where do we go from here The club is a rudderless ship and needs direction and structure. But they need to be careful who they keep so they don't go down another division. I'd give Sam the job if he wants it and I'd let HIM sign his own players for how he wants to play. He will provide direction, structure and a plan to move forward. This current squad were never good enough and weren't up for the fight to stay in the premier league. The championship will be harder. It may not be pretty at times but if he delivers promotion it will allow the owners time to put plans in place to get where they want to be. Which if they have anything about them should be to get the club back into the premier league and keep them there. MOT
I feel your pain mate. I've supposed Leeds since 1964 l was 10. I've been to Wembley, Paris. Semi finals. Ups and downs. Its hard work following Leeds. But this season to my mind has been the worst after Bielsa built the foundations to go on. But all the Chairman wanted was his money back and to get out. At the moment the club is embarrassing. It'll come back but not in my life time.
100% agree with everything you said Oscar. I called this years ago, no one would listen. The bottom line is under Radz 90% of transfer windows had a negative net spend, only one way that's going to end up. The majority of the Leeds Utd fanbase is deluded, they fell for Radz's PR bullshit from day one and he's been laughing at them ever since. This club is run like a non-league club, until that changes we're in big trouble.
Cant argue with much of that but the squad you allude to at the beginning actually finished 3rd under Bielsa. It was the previous season they finished 13th and only,Ayling, Cooper, Foreshaw and Dallas remain and Dallas didnt play yesterday.
just to add,we all have our rivalries but when a team gets relegated from the prem alot of behind the scenes staff lose their job, a job that is really needed,the players just keep on collecting massive salaries,they should be ashamed that they didnt fight for these people.
Thankfully this season is over Time for a rebuild from the bottom up. I'm off to enjoy my summer somehow with no thoughts for Leeds until the season restarts, this team has drained me emotionally enough as it is
Even in the Championship our midfield had more holes than a sieve, that was with the overrated Kalvin Phillips there. As for the defence and strikers, dont get me started. Relegation was always going to happen sooner than later. I predicted relegation by the third season on Tasha’s programme.
It's time The Square Ball were called out. They wanted Bielsa out. They had Kinnear on the Podcast and tickled his balls while he justified sacking Bielsa and talked rubbish. They're in cahoots with Phil Hay and seem happier when there's chaos, just like him. Let's not forget it's not the original Square Ball, they took it over about 10-15 years ago.
What i still don't understand is they buy Gnonto and Marsch Said Not good enough For the Prem then He does Play and the next Manager benches him for No Reason. WE buy Rütter For a record sum and Sam says sorry Not ready For the Prem yet the young Guy delivered in the U 21s and was a big Part of them winning the League. Means to me there is a Clausen in their contracts which says the More Games they Play in the Prem the More Leeds have to pay on top to their Former clubs
Maybe a bit harsh on Tyler but I’ve said it before he needed to be brought in earlier to play with KP. As for orta saying he was most proud he got roca to replace KP do me a favour. The lad can’t run, big issue in the prem if you play midfield 😀
How can a man who allegedly is our owner not be attending the final match at hm .I cannot believe that they don't a pre agreement in place plan a if we stay .plan b if we go down ..very desivve swift action is needed now not in a month .I fear it's going to be radio silence for weeks.we will miss out o manager.sporting director and players what a mess
Agree 100% Bamford out also Cooper, ayling, Firpo, Struik,, build a team around Adams, gnonto, summerville, Wober, Robles, Rodrigo,, Give perkins and joshua a chance,Rutter i'm not sure about.
those 5 players who was at Leeds in 2015 is the ones who is still gonna be there. 100% can guarantee it! Im taking a couple of years off from football. gonna go back to partying instead. much more fun being a junkie than a Leeds fan.
The club was going down even before Marsch got there. You sold your key contributors, refused to buy defenders in one of the most atrocious back lines in the league and depending on a 2nd rate Branford for goals done you in.
landmark moments for me for you were brentford away. you start the season well then you go down to london and its back to the horrible inept defending, ship five and then you should beat arsenal lose. and then its a endless pattern of occasional good wins ''liverpool away'' followed by more defensive collapses and poor bamford misses. You have played basketball in the premier league without a structure. Its a big shame.
Hey Oscar,nice to see you without the mist,Next season,Southampton and Leicester will get automatic,best you can hope for is top 6 finish but i cant see it,youve gone for a few years mate.
To secure our future and regain our position as a Premier League team, we should adopt the Brighton, Brentford, and Newcastle approach. Their business and recruitment models have been successful, and we need to replicate that. Without a solid foundation of talented players, nothing on the pitch will go right. It would also be beneficial to have better owners, although I doubt the 49ers will buy us now. They might even sell their stake. The fourth goal against Spurs was a disaster, with Moura effortlessly bypassing several of our defenders and that really sums up our season. You are right about the stewards being the best display of defending at Elland Road this season LOL! If you don't laugh you'd cry! Radrizzani seems to be absent, likely dealing with matters at Sampdoria. Both he and Orta have often displayed arrogance during their time at Leeds. However, let's find solace in the fact that this isn't 2004. Our average time outside the top flight is eight years over our entire history, and we're in a better financial position today. Though it won't be an immediate return, we can speed up the process by rebuilding around young talents. Proper recruitment, player transactions, and the elimination of surplus players are crucial. Consistency in team selection and formation is also vital for success. We can't afford to experiment every week. A stable starting eleven of our best players is essential, with each player in their natural position. Additionally, we should avoid injury-prone players going forward. MOT.
Alright Oscar very well put have to agree with you 1000%player recruitment has been piss poor us fans will always back them but no pride no passion just not good enough this is Leeds a great club be proud to where the shirt these players are in a privileged position but just don't give a shit only a hand full well keep up the good work Oscar mot
I do not want to watch these players in the Championship, I want the majority of them to leave now. I have supported Leeds for over 30 years and I have never disliked a group of players so much as this bunch
Roster simply not good enough. You need standouts to compete, stars, every team has them. We had them in Pablo Hernandez, KP, Raphinha. We are a team of mediocre players who are average to bad, and no standout. If your standout is Sinisterra or Gnonto, you’re gonna be in trouble. I said when I saw the activity in the transfer market this season. South America is chock full of talent and for dirt cheap. Look at Southampton snatching Alcaraz, Brighton with Enciso…and they weren’t even that great in South America. Why not look there? Why keep bringing second rate German or not good enough American players? I’m sure Bielsa could have named you 5 players per position you could get, and for cheap, but they kept offering him a poo poo platter, which is why he kept rejecting players (he didn’t reject Raphinha did he? Even tho he was already covered on that position at the time). This is entirely on Orta, because the money was there, Leeds spent more than enough to get a quality roster. This is why I don’t entirely blame Radrizani, he did spend, and he kept Orta because the first years he did well, while he was under Bielsa’s leash, who probably saved his a** by rejecting the horrible players he was offering. Once he showed how truly bad he is, it was already too late.
Let’s be honest raphinha KP Pablo have never been replaced. Even saiz hasn’t been replaced😂as decent as sini is he’s no raph which ain’t his fault. Adams has had a decent season when fit but he’s no KP. As for pablo he was the conductor
🎉Marsh took us down , he let mateus clich leave the club ,he tried to sign Gandhi and cried to much . He embarrassed the club . Too much kneeling ,and they're still doing it . If they don't get off their knees they'll never go back up .😅
@@clivet3252 Leeds fan need to realise football is not just about on the ball,it's off the ball too, aaronson helps us recover the ball,closes players down which forces mistakes so then we can have the ball, we have seen no pressing from any player maybe apart from jack who also has the fitness to do so, we were averaging 50% under jessie with aaronson playing now we are about 30% without aaronson, yes he gets knocked over easy but he gave is all unlike the rest of the dross who cant even run
@@lightninggornall in that period where we picked up under Javi, he was putting pressure on defenders and forcing mistakes which led to goals, even if he had no direct involvement. But people were still going after him. This is the problem at Leeds. The Brighton players would struggle at Leeds because the fans and media would be after them after a couple of quiet games. Bielsa was successful because he shut out all the noise and did things his way.
First of all get rid of Coper, Ayling, Koch, Lorrente, Firpo and Christensen they are absolutely useless. Then get rid of Aaronson, Roca and Bamford(big girls blouse). But first get rid of the board, who are absolutely clueless. As for Bielsa, I'm not fan of his. I can recall under Bielsa we were getting thumped on a regular basis, and tactically he only knows to play one way and that is all out attack. Football isn't rocket science, just basic common sense is all that is needed.
You absolutely nailed it Oscar. Orta became poisonous and now we have Radrizzani hanging around making the boardroom toxic and moribund. I fear for the future of the club in terms of it's ability to mount a campaign to return to the Premier League, first time of asking. A complete clear out is needed at boardroom level and squad level to make a serious promotion charge.
thats what we need, but seriously, do you think we will be bought up, change board, and change squad within 8 weeks? that is not gonna happen within 2 months, at best, it can happen within 2 years.
From a man utd fan, that's possibly the most honest and reliable sum up of Leeds nailed 👏
Won’t be watching this channel again when your liking Man U fans comments on our club 🤔
We're very similar clubs.
Similar to what? Is this a real Leeds united channel!
Must be sad be delusional....you clearly know nothing
Marcelo bielsa was basically playing the killer formation in cm93 he was able to power along 11 average players to a level that was beyond them. But when it went wrong it went wrong spectacularly. ..
People talk as if he's the only manager to get hammered. It happens to teams in the top 6.
@@clivet3252 for sure Bournemouth lost by 9 last year and stayed up.
@@1977Futre Real Madrid got hammered by Man City. It could have been a lot more. Liverpool lost 7-2 at Villa. But people go on like it was just Bielsa.
“A champagne ego with lemonade talent” 👏🏼👏🏼 couldn’t have said it better myself. Much thanks to you and the team for the videos this season, although we’ll be in the championship next season, I’ll still be looking forward to your videos. I hope you enjoy a well deserved break! See you guys in august MOT!
The defence was shite in the play off at Elland Road against Derby at our first crack at promotion..It’s still shite now, with some of the same players..They used to be beaten in league 1 let alone the premiership..It has been clear as mud that we needed defenders years ago..Poor management..Why didn’t we get a proven striker..Thanks Oscar..MOT!
Yep …..and we let Pontus go to Brentford for buttons!
Marsh wanted two quarterbacks and and he reckoned Gandhi kept us up last year , not raphinia.
@martin-raji name me 1 player who was playing 4 us in league 1 that's still here now? Oh and since when has mud been clear? 😂
@7:38 Hereford relegated from championship in 2007? R u sure about that? 2 my knowledge they have NEVER been in the championship?
Excellent speech bro done your club proud
Every point spot on mate!!! Lacklustre of passion and skill ....that 4th goal sums the season all up...we never even addressed our shortfall of defence to start with. Life in that championship is gonna tuff. Strap in again boys.
Gutted for you all. The fans. We’ve talked about this a lot, this current club from ownership down needs to go. You fans deserve better. ALAW
Half the fans were asking for this
Kane v cooper
Snail v Cheetah
Unbelievable
Ty Lolo 🙏 appreciate you bro
Everton fan here. I am gutted Leeds are down, spent a tense afternoon with one of your guys last game last season v Brentford when thankfully like my team EFC we survived. Everton have winged it again, big changes needed at our club. 🎉Leeds are premiership, looking forward to your return.
Leeds are not premier league, championship level, always have been
Very passionately said and absolutely correct Oscar.
I can't see us getting promoted next season because we have no infrastructure, no Manager, Sporting Director etc.
The buy out has to happen yesterday so I hope there's a plan in place.
Spot on Oscar you speak from the heart. We need a team just like us fans. Mot.
As a long serving LUFC steward (not G&F), I really appreciate your comment, I was stood at the bottom of the East Stand thinking I could get a few punches.
Broke up 4 fights at half time, people were drunk and emotional.
If I see you wondering about the East Stand pre match again next season I'll give you a cheer.
Well said Oscar very passionate with feeling, shame the players don't show the same sort of passion if they had we wouldn't be in this mess now, but we will march on together cos we are Leeds, fingers crossed it gets sorted sooner rather than later then we go again MOT ALAW
By far the best, most constructed dissection of the shambles that is Leeds United. Top video, top man, thanks Oscar.
Well said Oscar,,Apart from the 1st season, our time in the prem as been sole destroying, very little enjoyment , at times I’ve struggled to find the effort to make the trip down to my beloved elland rd , looking forward to a fresh start and hopefully a new and exciting Leeds utd rebuild, long time season ticket holder ,
Take care Oscar! The sad thing is, people will lose their jobs over this debacle, good people as you have said. Just so sad. xx
Oscar what a speach. Every single word was to the point and spot on. Thank you for saying what needed to be said.
Bang on Oscar! Particularly appreciate u highlighting the amount of exciting talent that withered away on the bench 😭 you're a dope writer btw
That’s a fine speech Oscar which sums up the club perfectly..
We need big changes because this team is not good enough in the Championship to get back to the premiership..
I played in defence at a reasonable level the defending from Leeds is possibly the worst I have ever seen diabolical doesn’t even get close..
I hope Raz gets out completely and maybe the 49rs will have a big clear out and reset..
I enjoyed your unbiased views on group chat streams the past couple of months. As a Forest fan I'll miss them next season, but just wanted to show appreciation to Oscar
Oscar you’ve absolutely nailed it - we haven’t had a PL quality defence for years let’s be honest Lucas even at his age now would defend better than this lot. Most of the goals conceded were not because of an opponent’s individual brilliance but because our so called defence basically gifted them a goal and the last spurs goal completely typifies our defenders lack of defending talent - once Cooper missed his tackle the guy walked through and scored. A complete overhaul is needed which hopefully will include some actual defenders! MOT
Brilliant analysis of the season Oscar. Agree with everything you’ve said. Huge job ahead to get us back on an even keel. Are 49ers taking over now? A personal thank you for the hard work you’ve put in this season at ALTV. We go again. #MOT #ALAW
Well said Oscar. I think Rodrigo, Tyler Adams and Jack Harrison are the only players that have shown some good form this season. Failure of the majority of signings killed us.
you are spot on mate
Absolutely nailed it mate !
Well said, Oscar. This season was an absolute gut punch.
Oscar can u put your transcript online. 👍
Will get that sorted for you - Tasha
Well said Oscar, that showed more heart and passion for the club than a lot of our players this season. Have a good summer pal 👍💙💛
The thing about Bielsa was that he brought a plan and a mindset to the club. He wasn’t perfect, but he looks better after seeing who followed. Marsch was not an attempt to build upon what Bielsa created, despite that being claimed by management at the time. Radz, Orta and Kinnear are responsible for what’s occurred. That’s why the 49rs need to grab the reins ASAP, and sort things out. The club has become a shambles because of lack of investment in proper, experienced first team players. I’m not saying don’t invest in youth teamers, I’m saying don’t do so at the expense of first teamers. We plainly needed good defenders and proven strikers and got neither. Hence we are here.
Absolutely nailed it.
Sad day feeling down love you Leeds
Apologies this is lengthy all.....
Side before self is bandied all around Elland Road. Unfortunately there's no one involved with the playing staff (present coaching team excepted) or in the board room that has bought into that phrase. As a club we haven't been at the races since we gained promotion back to the premier league and personally I hold two people accountable for our relegation. Chairman Andrea Radrizzani and our former head of football Victor Orta. Everything that's happened in the soap opera known as Leeds United shows that Marcelo Bielsa was papering over cracks that turned into huge chasms once he'd departed. So where did it all go wrong?.
Andrea Radrizzani
So we'll start at the top. Andrea has done some bloody good things at Leeds United and as a bloke he's a really nice fella. He even made me a cuppa once so he can't be all bad can he 😀 He readily admits he knows nothing about football, and as such employing someone who does would be a good move. So how on earth did he end up employing Victor Orta?. And why oh! why did he then give him free rein to do as he pleased with no accountability at all for his actions until it was too late. Andrea has failed the club by not bringing him to task over a recruitment policy that ultimately cost us relegation and will cost the club millions.
Victor Orta
I'd never heard of him until he turned up at at Leeds. But a quick google search gave me all the info I needed to conclude the bloke was a fraud and I said so. I was even called out about it. The only person who thought he was any good was Victor himself. Steve Gibson at Boro' and the people at Zenit paint a far different picture of Victor Orta than the one he offers. HIS transfer policy for it was HIS and HIS alone was flawed to say the least. But we'll get to that.
Marcelo Bielsa
Credit where it's due to the chairman and Victor Orta for landing Marcelo Bielsa in the first place. Because whatever they said to him they got their man. It was a coup of the highest order. But I never bought into Orta patting himself on the back, simply because every coach of a certain age or someone who enjoys South American football in general could have told you all about Marcelo Bielsa, he wasn't really a secret. Journalist Tim Vickery who's been based in Brazil for over 25 years and who used to write for World Soccer (which is where I first read about Marcelo Bielsa in the 1990s) could have told the board all about him. Christ they could even have asked me and I'd have told them all about him for nowt.
Transfer Policy
Buying players isn't rocket science. All you have to do is bring in better players than the ones you already have, it's simple. Victor Orta said his model was based on Leicester City's, buy cheap and sell high. Eg: Riyad Mahrez bought from Le Havre for £400k and sold to Man City for £60m. But he didn't do that did he. He bought bang average players for the first team for anything between £15m and £35m. This will make it very difficult for the club to get anywhere near their outlay bar the odd player back due to relegation. What was also worrying to me was that in his first two weeks at Leeds, Bielsa sold, loaned out, or released 16 players of which 14 were Victor Orta signings. No alarm bells ringing or questions for Orta.
Did he actually go and watch the players he signed in the flesh or did he just sit in his office watching videos players sent him?. Because no player on this earth or Fuller's is going to send him a video of all their worst bits are they?. You don't need to be a scout or head of football to come to that conclusion, common sense tells you that. Orta signed players from ajax, Bayern, Barca and Juventus. But he never managed to work out that had they been any good they'd have been playing in their first teams and the reasons they were selling them, were A) they didn't think they were good enough and B) Orta offered inflated fees for them. NONE of them were good enough as our relegation shows. Still no alarm bells ringing.
Also when signing Georginio Ruttter did the chairman or anyone else on the board for that matter not ask him what he had seen in a player who had scored just 2 goals in 15 games for Hoffenheim and who Victor Orta was about to make Leeds' record signing and give him £62k a week. Now Rutter may come good in the future but for £35m quid we needed the finished article not potential. Another laughable signing was that of Jean-Kevin Augustin on loan from RB Leipzig. That could cost Leeds millions if they lose their appeal. Again does this not show Victor Orta's miss management over his transfer dealings?. And don't forget, three managers now haven't picked him. Yet still no alarm bells ringing.
Young Players
Now we have an academy to sign young players. Adam does a bloody good job and it's one of the most revered academies in the world. But one of Victors key policies was to trawl the world and come up with young players he could sign for the club in the hope of selling them on for big money in the future. Now there's nothing wrong at all with taking a punt on a player. Signing Joe Gelhardt from Wigan for £1m is taking a punt. Spending £35m on a young player isn't a punt, it's financial suicide. So is putting a young player who was never going to get anywhere near the first team on £30k a week and who you then release on a free transfer later down the line. Again it shows Orta's inept scattergun approach to transfers whether for the first, youth or development teams. But yet still no alarm bells are ringing.
Promotion
Upon gaining promotion to the premier league and well done all concerned. Wouldn't you have thought that it would have been a good idea to back the manager and get in players he wanted?. Sadly the club didn't and it was left to Victor Orta to recruit players for the first team. The biggest myth at the club was the one surrounding Marcelo Bielsa wanting a small squad and the signing of players. Board members came out and said to the fans that Marcelo was offered this and that player, but NOT the players that he felt would improve the squad. It's well documented now that the board lied to the supporters and backed Orta, when they should have backed their manager. But yet again and possibly to cover their backsides, still no questions or alarm bells ringing.
Now there are always rumours flying around Elland Road. But if they're true this is where the fun and games really start. So here we go. Due to influence from the 49ers, it is alleged that Leeds were offered both Brenden Aaronson and Rasmus Kristensen upon gaining promotion and Bielsa chose not to sign either of them because he didn't think they were any better than what he already had. (Read my point about transfer policy).
It is believed Bielsa wanted to sign an Argentinian international possibly Rodrigo De Paul and a midfielder from Sampdoria but these two players would have cost Leeds £20m more than Aaronson and Kristensen. Orta signed Helder Costa, Ilian Meslier, Rodrigo, Robin Koch, Diego Llorente and Raphinha. None of these pulled up any trees. Though credit to Orta as for once he actually made a profit on selling Raphinha. Neither player Bielsa wanted was signed. Another rumour floating around was that the 49ers saw Bielsa's decision not to sign Aaronson and Kristensen as a slap in the face and wanted to sack him after Leeds' first season back in the premier league. But after finishing 9th and fearing a backlash by the Elland Road faithful they decided against it. From that moment on it was a case of when Bielsa was going to be sacked rather than if.
Part 2 in the comments
Jesse Marsch and staying up
So after the sacking of Marcelo Bielsa and an alleged even bigger influence from the 49ers the club appoint Jesse Marsch. Which may explain the subsequent signings of Brenden Aaronson and Rasmus Kristensen from Red Bull Salzburg. Remember Bielsa didn't think they were good enough, and after our relegation he was probably right. Again I have nothing against Jesse Marsc. Again I'd never heard of him until he was linked with the Leeds job. We were told Marsch was similar to Bielsa in how he set his teams up but he wasn't. In fact he didn't seem to know what he was doing. But there is nothing on Marsch's cv that should get him anywhere near a job in the conference never mind the premier league. In my opinion Marsch got the job because of the influence of the 49ers and was American.
After miraculously avoiding relegation on the last day of the season. Orta and the board in their wisdom decide to sell our two best players and biggest assets. Kalvin Phillips and Raphinha. Why would you do that?. To this day I just can't work it out. I get the fees up to a point and I still think we sold them on the cheap. But their value to us was all about what they gave us on the pitch. Even more so when you think they were replaced by players who weren't as good as them We needed to add to the team to strengthen it not sell our better players and weaken it (again read my point about transfer policy).
Javi Gracia, Orta goes and Big Sam
Next to have a bash to save us from the drop was Javi Gracia and to say his appointment was a surprise is an understatement. What was even more surprising was that if media reports were true he was so far down the list he wasn't even on it. As half a dozen coaches all distanced themselves from taking over the ER hot seat. Gracia was probably the only one who returned Orta's call. Yet again the lack of planning from Orta once the club had decided to sack Marsch is unforgivable. Anyway after a positive start the wheels started to fall off and screech had to go. Only this time the alarm bells were ringing like Big Ben on New Year's Eve and finally Orta fell on his sword and went with him. I like Big Sam but not even I thought he'd keep us up. He probably would have if he'd replaced Marsch, and we'd definitely have been up to the dizzy heights of mid table mediocrity had he come in after Bielsa. But alas we're here because of poor recruitment.
What would I have done?.
No point calling Orta out if I didn't have a plan myself eh!. I would have strengthened the spine of the team with experienced players who had premier league experience. So GK, two centre backs, midfield player and an out an out #9. My first port of call would have been Anfield and I'd tried to have signed James Milner. Two reasons for this, firstly. His influence around the place and the standards he'd set for those around him to aspire too. Promoting "good habits" as they say in football. 2nd. It would lift the fan base as he's "coming home" it also sets your stall out that you mean business.
GK. I'd have got one of Jack Butland, Ben Foster or Fraser Forster again for two reasons. 1. Personally I think our keepers are the best. 2. Experience. For exactly what happened to Meslier since the turn of the year, and to help him through it. His confidence was shot and it was something that he wasn't going to play through. He needed taking out of the team. I could see it. Why couldn't Marsch or Gracia?. Sam did it within a week. #9. I'd have signed Danny Ings. We'd have got him for around £10m or £12m and signed a player who has the experience needed when moving to a higher decision. We wouldn't have then wasted over £50 million on Rodrigo and Rutter. Nothing against either but they aren't worth anywhere near what we paid for them. Orta's flawed judgement again?.
But if we were going to take a punt why didn't we go for Viktor Gyokeres of Coventry City. 46 games 21 goals in the championship. He wouldn't have cost us anywhere near £35m, he will now, rumour is he's off to Wolves in the summer. Ollie Watkins was another I'd have brought in because he can play anywhere across the front line, as a #10 and gets on the scoresheet regularly and is better than Helder Costa, Ian Poveda, Tyler Roberts and Dan James put together. Plus if you want a small squad he gives you lots of options. Eberechi Eze is another who can play in a number of positions and is better than what we ended up with. Centre back Michael Hector was one I'd have signed. He always had a good game against us and is comfortable on the ball. Which helps if you wanna play out. I'd have done a Leicester too and gone down the old pro route in the vein of a Wes Morgan, Robert Huth type. Players who know what it takes to play at the top level.
We let Pablo Hernandez, Mateusz Klich, Ezgjan Alioski, Gaetano Berardi, Kalvin Phillips and Raphinha all go. We replaced them player wise but did we replace them with the same quality?. I don't think so. If there wasn't a better option available why not give them an extra year or two and bide yourself some time until you identify better players to come in?. But that wasn't Orta's way was it. His way was all about his own ego. NONE of the players brought in were good enough, that's why we went down and they certainly weren't as good as the ones above that Orta allowed to leave.
Where do we go from here
The club is a rudderless ship and needs direction and structure. But they need to be careful who they keep so they don't go down another division. I'd give Sam the job if he wants it and I'd let HIM sign his own players for how he wants to play. He will provide direction, structure and a plan to move forward. This current squad were never good enough and weren't up for the fight to stay in the premier league. The championship will be harder. It may not be pretty at times but if he delivers promotion it will allow the owners time to put plans in place to get where they want to be. Which if they have anything about them should be to get the club back into the premier league and keep them there. MOT
Very well said
I feel your pain mate. I've supposed Leeds since 1964 l was 10. I've been to Wembley, Paris. Semi finals. Ups and downs. Its hard work following Leeds. But this season to my mind has been the worst after Bielsa built the foundations to go on. But all the Chairman wanted was his money back and to get out. At the moment the club is embarrassing. It'll come back but not in my life time.
100% agree with everything you said Oscar. I called this years ago, no one would listen. The bottom line is under Radz 90% of transfer windows had a negative net spend, only one way that's going to end up. The majority of the Leeds Utd fanbase is deluded, they fell for Radz's PR bullshit from day one and he's been laughing at them ever since. This club is run like a non-league club, until that changes we're in big trouble.
Spot on. Well said. Club is now damaged. financial ok. But can this ownership take us back. I think not.
Cant argue with much of that but the squad you allude to at the beginning actually finished 3rd under Bielsa.
It was the previous season they finished 13th and only,Ayling, Cooper, Foreshaw and Dallas remain and Dallas didnt play yesterday.
just to add,we all have our rivalries but when a team gets relegated from the prem alot of behind the scenes staff lose their job, a job that is really needed,the players just keep on collecting massive salaries,they should be ashamed that they didnt fight for these people.
Thankfully this season is over
Time for a rebuild from the bottom up.
I'm off to enjoy my summer somehow with no thoughts for Leeds until the season restarts, this team has drained me emotionally enough as it is
Even in the Championship our midfield had more holes than a sieve, that was with the overrated Kalvin Phillips there. As for the defence and strikers, dont get me started. Relegation was always going to happen sooner than later. I predicted relegation by the third season on Tasha’s programme.
Losing to spurs is a joke. They are mid table dross and that’s with Kane.
When you are relegated you will lose to mid table teams
No direct mention of Bamford I see. If he scored 2 of those goals he missed this season leeds stay up
Best thing that could of happened imo . A dozen wins since what bielsa was sacked
BUT I FEEL POSITIVE AGAIN FOR SOME REASON
well said young man
I know it's hard but this is what we need. Go down get rid of all the players, management and start again and come back strong
You were heading to Europe after first season back!!!
True every word YRA
It's time The Square Ball were called out. They wanted Bielsa out. They had Kinnear on the Podcast and tickled his balls while he justified sacking Bielsa and talked rubbish. They're in cahoots with Phil Hay and seem happier when there's chaos, just like him. Let's not forget it's not the original Square Ball, they took it over about 10-15 years ago.
Bielsas last 4 results.
Everton 3-0
Man u 4-2
Liverpool 6-0
Spurs 4-0
@@sam8837 so what?
@@clivet3252 getting battered every week. So what?
@@sam8837 dumb comment
It's so crazy and crap, 1 could be forgiven for thinking it was deliberate. It makes total sense to me.
Well said Oscar, can we trust the new ownership to get it right though ?
WELL SAID THAT MAN WE ARE TOXIC
Don't be stressing yourself,that squad of players is not worth the space in your head.
Spot on. Baffling how such incompetent people can rise to such important roles.
That's why I'm beginning to believe in match rigging. Very hard to believe, I get that, but fans could run this club better. It's true.
@@robbiegf900akajwalker5 some fans. I've heard some outrageous shouts from our fan base too. 😅
What i still don't understand is they buy Gnonto and Marsch Said Not good enough For the Prem then He does Play and the next Manager benches him for No Reason. WE buy Rütter For a record sum and Sam says sorry Not ready For the Prem yet the young Guy delivered in the U 21s and was a big Part of them winning the League. Means to me there is a Clausen in their contracts which says the More Games they Play in the Prem the More Leeds have to pay on top to their Former clubs
Rutter wasn't a big part of the u21 at all. Only played recently and still looks quite raw
Maybe a bit harsh on Tyler but I’ve said it before he needed to be brought in earlier to play with KP. As for orta saying he was most proud he got roca to replace KP do me a favour. The lad can’t run, big issue in the prem if you play midfield 😀
What exactly do you want your captain to say 😂
Lets go buy some players able to bring us back up. Manning, Tavernier, Obrien, Flemming, Adams
Im not going again to Leeds United match .Its been another shocking season.We deserved to go down.
WELL SAID FELLA LUFC MOT
Quality summary Oscar.
Don’t agree with you not including Harrison, he had no support but played well most games thus keeping gnonto out of the team.
We will be in league 1 next season
hope so
I would have Brort keene on and Beckford bring his boots than that lot yesterday
Well said Oscar 👍
Yes…the fans do deserve this…fans are as disgraceful as the board
How can a man who allegedly is our owner not be attending the final match at hm .I cannot believe that they don't a pre agreement in place plan a if we stay .plan b if we go down ..very desivve swift action is needed now not in a month .I fear it's going to be radio silence for weeks.we will miss out o manager.sporting director and players what a mess
Plot twist ...
49ers complete there take over and reinstate Jesse... he's still hanging around Yorkshire all this time after been sacked 😅😂
Agree 100% Bamford out also Cooper, ayling, Firpo, Struik,, build a team around Adams, gnonto, summerville, Wober, Robles, Rodrigo,, Give perkins and joshua a chance,Rutter i'm not sure about.
those 5 players who was at Leeds in 2015 is the ones who is still gonna be there. 100% can guarantee it! Im taking a couple of years off from football. gonna go back to partying instead. much more fun being a junkie than a Leeds fan.
The club was going down even before Marsch got there. You sold your key contributors, refused to buy defenders in one of the most atrocious back lines in the league and depending on a 2nd rate Branford for goals done you in.
Excellent summary Oscar. MOT
Keep fighting Oscar…. ALAW MOT
landmark moments for me for you were brentford away. you start the season well then you go down to london and its back to the horrible inept defending, ship five and then you should beat arsenal lose. and then its a endless pattern of occasional good wins ''liverpool away'' followed by more defensive collapses and poor bamford misses. You have played basketball in the premier league without a structure. Its a big shame.
See you in 16 years
Hey Oscar,nice to see you without the mist,Next season,Southampton and Leicester will get automatic,best you can hope for is top 6 finish but i cant see it,youve gone for a few years mate.
Premier league you're having a laugh
Premier league you're having a laugh
Premier league you're having a laugh
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To secure our future and regain our position as a Premier League team, we should adopt the Brighton, Brentford, and Newcastle approach. Their business and recruitment models have been successful, and we need to replicate that. Without a solid foundation of talented players, nothing on the pitch will go right. It would also be beneficial to have better owners, although I doubt the 49ers will buy us now. They might even sell their stake. The fourth goal against Spurs was a disaster, with Moura effortlessly bypassing several of our defenders and that really sums up our season. You are right about the stewards being the best display of defending at Elland Road this season LOL! If you don't laugh you'd cry!
Radrizzani seems to be absent, likely dealing with matters at Sampdoria. Both he and Orta have often displayed arrogance during their time at Leeds. However, let's find solace in the fact that this isn't 2004. Our average time outside the top flight is eight years over our entire history, and we're in a better financial position today. Though it won't be an immediate return, we can speed up the process by rebuilding around young talents. Proper recruitment, player transactions, and the elimination of surplus players are crucial. Consistency in team selection and formation is also vital for success. We can't afford to experiment every week. A stable starting eleven of our best players is essential, with each player in their natural position. Additionally, we should avoid injury-prone players going forward. MOT.
You're not a premier league team, your true level is dossing around in the championship
Spot on Oscar 👍 MOT
Champagne ego, lemonade talent. Agree. Useless players , having no commitment or desire. We need to move most of them on but who will buy them?
Leicester are not Prepared for next season
Good work Oscar. Feel your pain. You didn’t get that of ChatGBT. 😂😂 MOT mate 💙💛💙
Hey Oscar where have you been good to see you back
Correct in everything you say
MOT
"Get off the pitch and f*** off home" great fans.....
Alright Oscar very well put have to agree with you 1000%player recruitment has been piss poor us fans will always back them but no pride no passion just not good enough this is Leeds a great club be proud to where the shirt these players are in a privileged position but just don't give a shit only a hand full well keep up the good work Oscar mot
To be fair, Leipzig are a big club
I do not want to watch these players in the Championship, I want the majority of them to leave now. I have supported Leeds for over 30 years and I have never disliked a group of players so much as this bunch
Most of those Leeds players want to leave.Let them go most of them are not good enough.
Good Onya Oscar. Nothing there that i don't agree with. I wonder what Marcelo makes of it?
Roster simply not good enough. You need standouts to compete, stars, every team has them. We had them in Pablo Hernandez, KP, Raphinha. We are a team of mediocre players who are average to bad, and no standout. If your standout is Sinisterra or Gnonto, you’re gonna be in trouble. I said when I saw the activity in the transfer market this season. South America is chock full of talent and for dirt cheap. Look at Southampton snatching Alcaraz, Brighton with Enciso…and they weren’t even that great in South America. Why not look there? Why keep bringing second rate German or not good enough American players?
I’m sure Bielsa could have named you 5 players per position you could get, and for cheap, but they kept offering him a poo poo platter, which is why he kept rejecting players (he didn’t reject Raphinha did he? Even tho he was already covered on that position at the time). This is entirely on Orta, because the money was there, Leeds spent more than enough to get a quality roster. This is why I don’t entirely blame Radrizani, he did spend, and he kept Orta because the first years he did well, while he was under Bielsa’s leash, who probably saved his a** by rejecting the horrible players he was offering. Once he showed how truly bad he is, it was already too late.
Nice one Oscar!!
I can sum up our problem and reason why we are relegated…Victor Orta …..end of
Let’s be honest raphinha KP Pablo have never been replaced. Even saiz hasn’t been replaced😂as decent as sini is he’s no raph which ain’t his fault. Adams has had a decent season when fit but he’s no KP. As for pablo he was the conductor
🎉Marsh took us down , he let mateus clich leave the club ,he tried to sign Gandhi and cried to much . He embarrassed the club .
Too much kneeling ,and they're still doing it .
If they don't get off their knees they'll never go back up .😅
At the end of the day Joe, it gets dark lad. Proper feel for you and can feel your pain BUT WAFLL!
My Great club. Please get rid of all this lot.players the worst ive seen And the chairman not interested
We we’re going down when bielsa was here stop crying and get on with it leeds till I die
Now you have no manager, no football team, and still relegated. Be carefull what you wish for
Next stop non league footballer we not fit to play Sunday league never mind championship football leeds till l die
If you want out of the championship at the first go then get Brendan Rodgers as your next manager.
Anyone over 60 will never see Leeds united back in there life time and I am one of them😔
Morgan Gibbs white pretty much cost the same amount as Aaronson and look at the difference in quality absolutely disgraceful
aaronson is not the reason we are down, he hardly got a minute last 10 games,we actually looked worse without him
@@lightninggornall exactly
@@clivet3252 Leeds fan need to realise football is not just about on the ball,it's off the ball too, aaronson helps us recover the ball,closes players down which forces mistakes so then we can have the ball, we have seen no pressing from any player maybe apart from jack who also has the fitness to do so, we were averaging 50% under jessie with aaronson playing now we are about 30% without aaronson, yes he gets knocked over easy but he gave is all unlike the rest of the dross who cant even run
@@lightninggornall in that period where we picked up under Javi, he was putting pressure on defenders and forcing mistakes which led to goals, even if he had no direct involvement. But people were still going after him. This is the problem at Leeds. The Brighton players would struggle at Leeds because the fans and media would be after them after a couple of quiet games. Bielsa was successful because he shut out all the noise and did things his way.
First of all get rid of Coper, Ayling, Koch, Lorrente, Firpo and Christensen they are absolutely useless. Then get rid of Aaronson, Roca and Bamford(big girls blouse). But first get rid of the board, who are absolutely clueless. As for Bielsa, I'm not fan of his. I can recall under Bielsa we were getting thumped on a regular basis, and tactically he only knows to play one way and that is all out attack. Football isn't rocket science, just basic common sense is all that is needed.
Don't worry there will be another bus along in a minute ........mot
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