The HOLY CROWN of HUNGARY & The AMERICAN PRESIDENT

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    The Holy Crown of Hungary, also known as St Stephen's Crown, is one of Hungary's greatest cultural treasures. Dating back to the eleventh century, the crown has witnessed many vicissitudes in the nation's history; it has been stolen and hidden, and it has even left the country entirely. In this video, I look at this object in some detail, its importance in the political life of Hungary and how, for over thirty years, it was kept in the United States.
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  • @allanbarton
    @allanbarton  25 днів тому +189

    Forgive my extremely poor grasp of US Geography! What can I say, I’m an Englishman. I do realise now that Fort Knox is in Kentucky. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @russbear31
      @russbear31 25 днів тому +16

      Thanks for correcting this, Allan. I was about to comment on Fort Knox. This is a fascinating story. I knew that a lot of European treasures were moved to Fort Knox for safekeeping during the war, but I had never heard the story of this crown.
      BTW, it's also been widely reported that the Bank of England moved much of its gold reserve to Fort Knox during the war to ensure that Hitler would never plunder it.

    • @SMichaelDeHart
      @SMichaelDeHart 25 днів тому +5

      I just started listening to the video and stopped to post a correction on the Fort Knox location. I'm glad you figured it out!!

    • @joemungus6063
      @joemungus6063 25 днів тому

      arizona mentioned!!! lets go

    • @deniseatkins9407
      @deniseatkins9407 24 дні тому +3

      I wouldn't have a clue where it was either

    • @SMichaelDeHart
      @SMichaelDeHart 24 дні тому +1

      @deniseatkins9407 Even though A LOT of Americans know of UK bases like RAF Wethersfield (USAFE), RAF Mildenhall (SAC/USAFE/AMC), RAF Lakenheath (SAC/USAFE), RAF Mendlesham and even in Germany...Ramstein Air Base. Maybe because there's a large contingency of American troops helping to protect the UK and Europe. I guess we look at it a little differently.

  • @barkasz6066
    @barkasz6066 20 днів тому +76

    As a Hungarian this crown is like the ark of the covenant. No king was considered legitimate until it was crowned by the bishop of Esztergom in Székesfehérvár by this crown on the coronation mound built from dirt gathered from all parts of the country.
    You can see it in the Parliament during a tour. Itself being a beautiful neogothic building it really is an almost otherwordly experience seeing it for real, especially after seeing it and hearing about it in so many places from the Hungarian coat of arms to the pages of history books.

    • @e1gr3co
      @e1gr3co 19 днів тому +1

      Let's say Alba Regia rather (Székesfehérvár)

    • @kightsun
      @kightsun 18 днів тому

      If this were true Hungarians would demand their king back 🤷‍♂️

    • @farseverosapirico6248
      @farseverosapirico6248 17 днів тому +1

      ABOUT THE RADIATIONS OF THIS CROWN .
      IN THE MEDIEVAL AGES SOMEWHEN THERE WAS A DYNASTY WAR , AND THERE WERE 2 KINGS . THE ONE HAS HAD ALL WEAPONS , MEN AND ARMY , AND THE OTHER , IN THE END HAD ONLY A TENT , BUT THE HOLY CROWN . HE HAS LEFT THE TENT , WAS WALKING SLOWLY TO THE CONTRAKING HAVING THE SAINT CROWN ON THE HEAD , AND THE OTHER KING GOT OFF FROM HIS HORSE AND WENT TOWARDS THE KING OF THE CROWN WHO SAID : YOU ARE MY CAPTURED , ARREST HIM ! AND THE MEN OF THE CONTRA KING HAS ARRESTED THEIR "KING"...
      ANOTHER SOMETHING . WE HAVE LOST ALL WARS OF OURS , AND THE GOVERNOR IN 1849 AND A TEAM OF HIS BEST MEN HAD TO ESCAPE FROM HUNGARY TO ISTANBUL , BUT , SOMEWHERE THEY HAVE HIDDEN THE SAINT CROWN. LATER THE HABSBURG WINNING GOVERNMENT HAS HIRED A MERCENARY , A HEAD HUNTER SO THAT HE SHALL FIND THE CROWN .
      HE HAS FOUND IT , AND HASN'T SOLD IT FOR GOOD MONEY ANYWHERE BUT HAS GIVEN IT TO HIS LORDS (!) . ON THE CONTRARY WITH THE CASE OF THE GERMANS HAVING TAKEN THE POLISH NATIONAL CROWN , OR THE CHINESE ABOUT THE MONGOLIAN CROWN , WELL , THE HABSBURGS HAVEN'T PERISHED OUR HOLY CROWN...
      UNBELIEVABLE ??? :-)

    • @andras8911
      @andras8911 17 днів тому +1

      With the Crown comes the King’s Laws “ Aranybulla”!
      I think I’ve seen one law saying who ever steals the crown or shames it, there’s a great punishment for it.
      And I believe the punishment can be Enforced by Saints or God directly!
      They have shamed the Hungarian Holy Crown by illegally taking it!
      They have shamed Saints, God directly!
      It is phenomenal powers of God directly that they will face, if not have faced already..

  • @gammamaster1894
    @gammamaster1894 25 днів тому +62

    As a student of Hungarian (and lover of all things Hungarian) this should prove to be very interesting!

    • @Erinn620
      @Erinn620 25 днів тому +4

      my grandmother was Hungarian ❤

    • @yougottabekiddiing
      @yougottabekiddiing 25 днів тому

      My French bulldogs are from Hungary, imported to me in the USA! ❤

    • @msjannd4
      @msjannd4 24 дні тому +1

      I'm interested in learning the language and have tooled around a bit on UA-cam for lessons. It's not easy!

  • @bcoldgoalie
    @bcoldgoalie 24 дні тому +20

    I'm always amazed how well these artifacts stand the test of time. Surviving wars and unrest is no small feat. Fascinating history! 👏

  • @apmoy70
    @apmoy70 19 днів тому +17

    The Greek inscription on the enamel panel for Geza, reads «Γεωβίτζας Πιστός Κράλης Τουρκίας» = "Geovídzas (the Hellenised name of Geza) faithful Kral of Turkey"; note that he's described as Kral and not Βασιλεύς-Basileus, the latter is reserved only for the emperor in Constantinople. Turkey is the name by which Hungary was known to the Byzantines

  • @bbenjoe
    @bbenjoe 18 днів тому +7

    In medieval times if someone wanted to be a legitimate king of Hungary, three criteria had to be fulfilled: 1. He had to be crowned with the Holy Crown. 2. ... by the archbishop of Esztergom. 3. In the royal capital of Székesfehérvár. Any three of these were lacking, and the king's legitimacy could be disputed.

  • @popcult
    @popcult 24 дні тому +32

    Thank you for a very much needed summary about Hungary’s Holy Crown.
    You are right about its unique role in Hungary’s public life -even today. As someone who grew up in Hungary I was always aware of the Crown’s mystical, spiritual powers as well its significance in public law.
    Your comparison of the locations of Saint Edward’s Crown and Saint “István’s” really juxtaposes the Hungarian Crown Jewels with other European ones.
    There was only one detail that I would like to add: according to mythology The Holy Crown was offered to István by the Blessed Virgin hence the strong Marian sentiments even today in the country. Many still refer to Mary as Queen of Hungary.
    Thanks again for your wonderful work. ❤

    • @salvadorromero9712
      @salvadorromero9712 20 днів тому

      That's a bit surprising given the huge Protestant minority that's such a distinguishing characteristic of Hungary among countries in the area. I've often heard it said that Calvinism has long played an outsized role in Hungarian nationalism.

    • @popcult
      @popcult 20 днів тому +2

      @@salvadorromero9712 More than 60 percent of religious Hungarians are Catholic and 20 percent Calvinist.

    • @goddessIv
      @goddessIv 19 днів тому

      @@salvadorromero9712 Most Hungarians are Catholic.

    • @kingaszeleikis482
      @kingaszeleikis482 19 днів тому +4

      The opposite happened. King István offered the crown and his country to the protection of the Virgin Mary. So Hungary has an eternal, heavenly ruler.

    • @salvadorromero9712
      @salvadorromero9712 19 днів тому

      @@kingaszeleikis482 I wonder if Horthy ever mentioned this when asked where the king was in his Kingdom!

  • @nemorinoeso7581
    @nemorinoeso7581 24 дні тому +12

    Thank you Dr Barton for this video, I subscribed to your chanel two years ago for niche medieval english content and now you presented the Holy Crown of my homeland, what a pleasant surprise! Unfortunately the osman wars destroyed much of our medieval and renaissance heritage, so the Basilica of Székesfehérvár, where the medieval coronations took place but the coronation regalia remained intact, it is hard to describe how important are these objects for our cultural heritage. Very well done!

  • @jilltagmorris
    @jilltagmorris 24 дні тому +18

    This was absolutely fascinating. I've not seen or heard of this ever before. I graduated high school in 1977 and you would think the return would have made news here!

    • @kevinchambers1101
      @kevinchambers1101 24 дні тому

      I agree. I don't remember anything about its return in the news.

    • @accaeffe8032
      @accaeffe8032 21 день тому +3

      It's because most Ameticans wouldn't even know where Hungary is. From a geopolitical or economic point of view, it is insignificant.

    • @kevinchambers1101
      @kevinchambers1101 21 день тому +2

      @accaeffe8032 maybe many Americans wouldn't know or care, but it is something I would have found interesting and yet I didn't hear a word about it.

  • @s.corona2514
    @s.corona2514 19 днів тому +7

    If you look closely at the three back images of the Holy Crown, you can see that they are secondary to the Crown. This is particularly evident in the portrait of Mihály Dukász on the rear pediment, which is fixed in front of the socket with rivets. When the image was mounted, the image of St. Thomas behind it was drilled through. The quality of this trio falls far short of the artistry of all other enamelled images of the Holy Crown. In other words, these images are unsuitable for determining the date of the making of the Holy Crown. The fact that the inscriptions of the Holy Crown are bilingual (Latin and Greek) does not prove that they were made in a different time and place. The salvation history program of the images of the Holy Crown also proves that the crown was made as a unified whole.

  • @stepps511
    @stepps511 24 дні тому +13

    A delightful video and history lesson of this very precious object. Thank you, Allan!

  • @chumleyk
    @chumleyk 24 дні тому +21

    Wonderful to see a real crown from the Eastern Roman/Byzantine empire survive!

    • @CurryMaster-ie3fo
      @CurryMaster-ie3fo 18 днів тому +1

      This holly crown is nothing to do with Eastern Roman/Byzatine empire. This is a holly crown and we do not know its origins. If this was told in this video is false. I stop watching it after he said that Hungary was ruled by Husburgs.

    • @mcRydes
      @mcRydes 18 днів тому +2

      @@CurryMaster-ie3foremarkable. You are the first Hapsburg truther I have ever encountered.

    • @markuslaszlo4069
      @markuslaszlo4069 18 днів тому

      @@CurryMaster-ie3fo 1884

    • @ironduke3780
      @ironduke3780 18 днів тому +5

      ​@@CurryMaster-ie3foWe do know it's from the Eastern Roman Empire. You can literally see the portrait of Michael VII Doukas 'Parapinakes'

    • @user-hd1si6uh9k
      @user-hd1si6uh9k 17 днів тому +1

      @@CurryMaster-ie3fo * you don't know. Historians do...

  • @boomerix
    @boomerix 19 днів тому +5

    The Holy Crown as a mystical relic and mandatory requirement for legitimate rule is much closer to what you read in fairy tales / fantasy novels then what was historically practised in most other European Kingdoms.

  • @ragnes18
    @ragnes18 24 дні тому +9

    Thank you so much, i'm from Hungary, it is a nice suprise...

  • @rhiannonpoole6019
    @rhiannonpoole6019 24 дні тому +8

    Thankyou for another fascinating video, I knew nothing about the early history of Hungary so yet another gap in my knowledge filled! Or if not filled, then at least a space made for it. I only have to hear the names of those precious stones to make my mouth water!

  • @beno280
    @beno280 15 днів тому +2

    Thank you for this video!
    As I happen to be a Hungarian, I have a bit more, I think somewhat interesting information regarding our crown. We have a so-called Holy Crown discipline, which used to be the very basis of Hungarian statehood and of our unwritten historical constitution.
    According to this, the Holy Crown isn’t only the main object that signifies the power of the king, but it is to be regarded as the actual sovereign. The king or queen is only a member of the body of the crown, along with the ruling class and the entire territory of the Kingdom of Hungary. The crown has its own personality and will, the person who wears it is only a messenger of this will. This was quite important, because this way, the state could be separated from the monarch, also from the monarchy. Nothing makes this special position more visible, than the official name of the country within the old empire: the Lands of the Holy Crown.
    Another quite interesting thing is, that within our current constitution, there is a provision which orders the constitution to be interpreted according to the old historical constitution, which contains this discipline. This way, one can argue, that the Holy Crown hasn’t lost its position as the embodiment and ruler of Hungary, only there is no monarch nowadays, instead we have a Parliament.

  • @BennyM_
    @BennyM_ 24 дні тому +22

    ‘Confection’ is an excellent word for this crown!

    • @albertsmyth9616
      @albertsmyth9616 24 дні тому +2

      Yes indeed, I agree, a perfect word. In the Catholic Church among other formal descriptions the moment of transubstantiation of the Host being turned into the living embodiment of Christ by the priest at Mass, this moment used to be called the ‘confection’ of the Host by the priest which is a dictionary definition of the word which now means something quite different in our modern colloquial english and sounds almost frivolous to our modern ear. It’s nice to hear this word being used in its original meaning.

  • @msjannd4
    @msjannd4 24 дні тому +12

    Beautiful crowns.

  • @robb2biago
    @robb2biago 24 дні тому +5

    This is a fascinating story. I studied the Monuments Men, what a fantastic program. Of course President Carter helped in its return. Well and that area was somewhat stable for its return

  • @TonyThomas10000
    @TonyThomas10000 24 дні тому +13

    "For much of the Cold War the crown was held at the United States Bullion Depository (Fort Knox, Kentucky) alongside the bulk of the United States' gold reserves and other priceless historical items." -- Wikipedia

  • @blackeyedlily
    @blackeyedlily 23 дні тому +8

    Fascinating and beautiful!

  • @mavisemberson8737
    @mavisemberson8737 24 дні тому +3

    The Austro Hungarian Empire was a great feature of our European History lessons at school! Very complicated it was too. Thanks for this.. It is an interesting crown in itself.

  • @diannehardwick950
    @diannehardwick950 24 дні тому +4

    Heavens it has had such complex and even turbulent history, it’s a wonder it is still with us.

  • @NinaHansen2008
    @NinaHansen2008 24 дні тому +6

    Beautiful video. Thank you, Dr. Barton.

  • @spaceenthusiast7160
    @spaceenthusiast7160 20 днів тому +6

    I find it funny that this video is 18:48 in length (year of the hungarian revolution)

  • @susanspacey7537
    @susanspacey7537 24 дні тому +6

    Legend says that the crown was squashed when it was hidden inside a cushion and was sat on to keep it safe

  • @neddoucet7779
    @neddoucet7779 25 днів тому +7

    Thank you Dr. Barton for another brilliant presentation. I look forward to your videos. Greetings from the beautiful Hudson Valley.

  • @annettewillis2797
    @annettewillis2797 17 днів тому +1

    This crown is an extraordinary piece. Its survival is also extraordinary! Many thanks Allan for all your insights.

  • @vinceplatini
    @vinceplatini 25 днів тому +4

    Another very interesting lesson, never heard of this 👑. Thank you so much! 👍🏻

  • @Hongaars1969
    @Hongaars1969 20 днів тому +3

    We get it. Fort Knox is in Kentucky. As a Hungarian, I admit to knowing very little re its provenance or its history. Thank you. Subscribed. Liked. All
    Notifications.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  20 днів тому +1

      Ha, ha - I am going to be dreaming about this in my sleep. Thanks for subscribing.

  • @juz3r1
    @juz3r1 19 днів тому +4

    The Hungarian Holy Crown is a separate legal entity!!!

  • @yougottabekiddiing
    @yougottabekiddiing 25 днів тому +8

    Nice video, with very interesting information. In the photo of the king wearing the Hungarian crown, there is also a very interesting scepter. Any information on where that object went?

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  25 днів тому +8

      That’s another video.

    • @nemorinoeso7581
      @nemorinoeso7581 24 дні тому +4

      The coronation mantle is even more interesting part of the regalia hence it is the single object which has connection to St. Stephen.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  24 дні тому +7

      @nemorinoeso7581 that will be in the same video.

    • @yougottabekiddiing
      @yougottabekiddiing 24 дні тому +1

      @@allanbartonExcellent!

  • @MTCason
    @MTCason 24 дні тому +5

    It's an interesting footnote that regardless of the original provenance of the crown, if Emperor Charles I is ever fully canonized as a saint (currently classified as Blessed with multiple miracles to his credit) it will become, in the eyes of the Catholic faithful, a legitimate holy relic. It would have touched a saint!

    • @abelzatyko1513
      @abelzatyko1513 21 день тому +2

      Already did, with Saint Ladislaus, far as I know

    • @MTCason
      @MTCason 21 день тому

      @@abelzatyko1513 Ah, that's definitely possible though I do find it interesting that none of the Medieval depictions of Saint Ladislaus' coronation (or his reliquary) show the Holy Crown.

    • @birocsabal
      @birocsabal 18 днів тому

      No depiction of any king or coronation made before the 16th century shows the Holy Crown. It seems as it was a taboo before.

  • @diuskad
    @diuskad 14 днів тому

    Thank you for the detailed and informative video. I have one thing to add, that the only 2 Habsburg kings were crowned in Budapest, Franz Josef I. and Karl IV., since the city was only established in 1853 unifying Buda, Pest and Óbuda under the name Budapest. All other kings were crowned in one of these cities: Esztergom, Székesfehérvár, Pozsony, Sopron and Buda, where - as previous comments mentioned - the main city for coronations was Székesfehérvár. The name also indicates that this city was the main seat of the king and his court during the middle ages. So the sentence that the Habsburgs rushed to Budapest to get crowned is not quite true regarding the city, however, legally no king could hold office without a coronation where St. Stephans Crown was placed on his head (for Maria Theresia the crown touched her shoulder).

  • @Csabai4u
    @Csabai4u 16 днів тому

    Thank you for a thorough and comprehensive review of the Holy Crown of Hungary. Two observations. First, atop the crown where the cross rests, Christ is flanked by the sun & moon which resembles the Szekely motifs. Interesting too, that Hunyadi Matyas was born in 'Szekely land'. Second, I find it interesting that the two archangels, Gabriel and Michael, are represented on the crown. However, Michael is not registered in the Hungarian book of names, whereas Gabriel is.

  • @trumpetmom8924
    @trumpetmom8924 24 дні тому +2

    15:47 I find it interesting how the illustrator here has the cross leaning toward the left of the illustration, despite one panel being of the front and the other of the back.

  • @forthrightgambitia1032
    @forthrightgambitia1032 24 дні тому +6

    Is there any chance you can do a video on the Iron Crown of Lombardy? Strangely this crown sticks in my mind as I first saw a reference to it years ago in the rather unlikely location of the novel Moby Dick...

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  23 дні тому +1

      It’s on my list, it has a quite remarkable provenance.

  • @S.T.G.
    @S.T.G. 24 дні тому +5

    Allan, thank you very much for this video, which gives a summary of so many aspects of the Hungarian Holy Crown. I think it was not mentioned that, after Jimmy Carter’s decision in 1977, the Holy Crown was brought back to Hungary on 5 January 1977 and was returned to the Hungarian people on 6 January. The American delegation was led by Cyrus Vance, U.S. Secretary of State, while it was handed over to Antal Apró, the President of the Hungarian Parliament. It was a strong request from the American side that János Kádár, the leader of the Hungarian communist party and, therefore, the de facto leader of the country, should not be present at the ceremony. As far as I know, it was only in 2000 that a law was passed emphasising the importance of the Holy Crown as a relic embodying the continuity and independence of the Hungarian state and establishing the Corporation of the Crown which you mentioned at the end of the video. At the same time, it was transferred from the National Museum to the Parliament of the Hungarian Republic. Later, in 2011, it was mentioned again as embodying the constitutional continuity of Hungary’s statehood and the unity of the nation in Orban’s “Fundamental Law of Hungary” which replaced the Constitution of the Republic.

  • @carolescutt2257
    @carolescutt2257 24 дні тому +2

    ❤❤ Sunday special upload 😊😊 I wait for your uploads and settle with a hot chocolate to indulge mind and body. Bless your wonderful academia xx

  • @knutanderswik7562
    @knutanderswik7562 25 днів тому +2

    Great video! That odd lumpy amethyst above the front-side Pantokrator is neat, suggests a crown's purple cap to my modern eyes but can that have been the original idea? The old illustration at 15:20 interprets it as a heart shape. I suppose, with neighborhood rockhound-club garage-tumbled amethysts now going away to children in grab-bags for a fiver, someone might have had the bright idea to switch it out.

    • @s.corona2514
      @s.corona2514 17 днів тому +1

      It was a heart-shaped stone. The lower part, the tip of the heart, is missing, the two existing pieces are glued together. It represents and operates the Sacred Heart of Jesus Christ through the Holy Crown.

  • @sladestumbo4117
    @sladestumbo4117 25 днів тому +17

    A few mistakes: Fort Knox is a military base in Kentucky, not Arizona. It houses the U.S. Gold Reserve. It is not a bank. Federal Reserve Banks are a different system altogether. I assume the word “reserve” may be the source of confusion. Perhaps the crown was in multiple locations? Otherwise, a very informative video.

    • @Colourmad314
      @Colourmad314 24 дні тому +1

      For the depth of ecclesiastical & royal knowledge imparted on this channel a small faux pas is not something to snark at, most people think Fort Knox is a film set for James Bond……….

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  24 дні тому +6

      I try to be thorough with my research, but sometimes my humanity gets in the way. I spotted the error as soon as I’d uploaded the video.

    • @michaelhealy1590
      @michaelhealy1590 16 днів тому +1

      Give Allen some space. He is a very good ecclesiastical and historical scholar and not an expert in American geography. Just look at all his other really great works.

  • @AmynAL
    @AmynAL 24 дні тому +1

    Thank you for this video. I had no idea of its existence or of the U.S.’s storing of it. Very interesting and so much history.

  • @pauleromeyerdherbey2177
    @pauleromeyerdherbey2177 19 днів тому +1

    Great job, Sir Barton !

  • @uriahheep8470
    @uriahheep8470 24 дні тому +3

    Excellent video.

  • @goddessIv
    @goddessIv 19 днів тому

    Great video about the crown. Thank you!

  • @sisimoto
    @sisimoto 15 днів тому +2

    The name is Sacra Corona, Saint Crown, because it is more then an artifact. Its the Saint Crown of Hungary. The Crown.

  • @accaeffe8032
    @accaeffe8032 21 день тому +2

    Reading through the comment section, now I will always remember that Fort Knox is in Kentucky.😊

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  21 день тому

      I know, it does make me laugh. 😆

  • @realshaho3180
    @realshaho3180 24 дні тому +2

    Wonderful video. Correction: Ft. Knox is in Kentucky not Arizona

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  23 дні тому +1

      I did pin a comment about this to the video.

  • @educanassa100
    @educanassa100 22 дні тому +2

    Great video, Allan

  • @BrianJosephMorgan
    @BrianJosephMorgan 24 дні тому +2

    Fascinating.

  • @Kapa362
    @Kapa362 21 день тому +3

    Fun fact: This crown wasn't made by the Hungarians, but it was a gift for accepting Christianity. When Szent István (Saint Stephen) the first king of Hungary was crowned with this crown in 1001, after they defeated Koppány (idk how he is called in english) who was a pagan. After that Stephen converted the nation into Christianity. Forgive me for my grammar issues!

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  21 день тому

      Though fun, it is not a fact I’m afraid. As described in this video, no part of this crown dates from the reign of Stephen. The earliest elements are from the 1070s, and were given by a Byzantine emperor.

    • @WalintHUN
      @WalintHUN 13 днів тому

      ​@@allanbarton this shows how controversial it's story, thats a written fact too Vaticaan gave to I. Stephen the Holy Crown... as a Hungarian it was really nice to see a video in 19mins long about it, now you made me want to watch Gábor Pap's, Hungarian art historian, talked about it for 30 hours in 3 parts here on UA-cam.
      @Kapa362 our history teachs are wrong... none of the Hungarians who came to the Carpathian basin were pagans, the argue was about which church we should "join" or let in to country... Vaticaan (west) or Byzanth (east) Are we going to ally to which way... (christianity is way before Christ actually... and Hungarians were old christians just like before Christ Parthians from Scythian Empire too (Jesus became Christ after baptized by John isn't it, so it wasn't his "invetion" ;) ))

  • @user-np5ke3wr2w
    @user-np5ke3wr2w 24 дні тому +1

    It's OK Allen I look forward to your stories everyday take care dear!

  • @57WillysCJ
    @57WillysCJ 23 дні тому +2

    Interesting. I can see why they want to protect it from Stalin considering he was known to sell such items. Lastly Fort Knox is in Kentucky not Arizona.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  23 дні тому

      Yes, thanks, I made a mistake there! 😅

  • @Marjorie-yt7pb
    @Marjorie-yt7pb 25 днів тому +4

    Fascinating . Thank you !!

  • @andrehernadi5930
    @andrehernadi5930 20 днів тому +2

    Pretty good video, you have the best pronunciation of Hungarian names by an English speaking history youtubers I've ever heard.

  • @josephvarno5623
    @josephvarno5623 25 днів тому +9

    Fort Knox is in Kentucky, not Arizona. It was also the home of the 1st Armored basic training.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  25 днів тому +10

      I live in the UK, so I’m sure you’ll be kind to my lack of US geography.

    • @genericpersonx333
      @genericpersonx333 24 дні тому +2

      @@allanbarton Personally, I am more amused that you mistook it for Arizona of all places. I can barely think of a reason why anyone outside of the USA would even KNOW about Arizona to be confusing it with anywhere else in the USA. Indeed, many Americans barely know Arizona exists!

    • @josephvarno5623
      @josephvarno5623 24 дні тому +1

      @@allanbarton absolutely.
      I don't expect people from the US to know odd minor parts of US geography.

  • @EdMcF1
    @EdMcF1 24 дні тому +2

    If ever an object encapsulated a nation's history, surely this is it?

  • @Akitlosz
    @Akitlosz 13 днів тому

    The cross on the crown became crooked in the 1620s. The crown was needed for the coronation of a queen, but the crown guard forgot the key to the chest containing the crown at home. Locksmiths were called to open the chest. They opened the chest, but the crown was damaged in the process. The damage cannot be repaired without replacing the parts. The cross remains slanted because the originality is more important.

    • @s.corona2514
      @s.corona2514 13 днів тому

      This enormous stupidity was spread by a Hungarian professional historian while building his career. The only problem with this and other nonsense is that "well-informed" people keep spreading it like some nasty infectious disease. The theory would only be plausible if the crown chest was a suitcase on which the Holy Crown was placed, and then the crown guards sat on it, because otherwise it would not be possible to close it. At least let's not burn ourselves in front of foreigners with this nonsense!

  • @marianroberts6521
    @marianroberts6521 22 дні тому +1

    You are correct. Ft. Knox is in Kentucky not Arizona.

  • @jongoldman9279
    @jongoldman9279 11 днів тому

    Very interesting. I had no idea the crown had been in our country for so many years. What a history....the places that crown has been. Thank you, Allan.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  7 днів тому

      Glad you found this interesting!

  • @CrowSkeleton
    @CrowSkeleton 24 дні тому +7

    I didn't even know crowns that pretty existed outside fantasy novels...I hope whoever sat on it and made it wonky like that was embarrasssed, even if they took the secret to their grave.

    • @lulubellecataloni5605
      @lulubellecataloni5605 17 днів тому

      At one point in history the cross on the top of the crown was damaged. Tales hold that during a strife for the Hungarian throne one of the candidates for the throne stole the Crown and wanted to smuggle it out of the country. However, on his way Otto I, Duke of Swabia and Bavaria dropped the Crown damaging its top. Legends aside, a more likely cause of the damage is that the iron chest in which the Crown was stored in much of his life was closed rather uncarefully, hitting, and hence damaging the cross. The cross is in a position slanted to the left, and the golden plate underneath is crooked. This damage was never repaired; the position of the cross became part of how the cross is traditionally depicted.

    • @lulubellecataloni5605
      @lulubellecataloni5605 17 днів тому

      At one point in history the cross on the top of the crown was damaged. Tales hold that during a strife for the Hungarian throne one of the candidates for the throne stole the Crown and wanted to smuggle it out of the country. However, on his way Otto I, Duke of Swabia and Bavaria dropped the Crown damaging its top. Legends aside, a more likely cause of the damage is that the iron chest in which the Crown was stored in much of his life was closed rather uncarefully, hitting, and hence damaging the cross. The cross is in a position slanted to the left, and the golden plate underneath is crooked. This damage was never repaired; the position of the cross became part of how the cross is traditionally depicted.

    • @tovarishcheleonora8542
      @tovarishcheleonora8542 16 днів тому

      @@lulubellecataloni5605 It's more like to be from someone accidentally dropping it to the ground tho. Because with an important object like this, it's very unlikely that the storage chest was not big enough for the crown, especially if you consider how big degree it where bent in.

    • @kisshereful
      @kisshereful 13 днів тому

      @@tovarishcheleonora8542 it was smuggled, stolen and ransomed many times during it history. the Hungarian version of Game of Thrones back in medieval times were literally a fight for this object, since you could only be a legitimate king if you got crowned with this exact one. putting St Stephen's crown on was our way of pulling out Excalibur from the stone. So you expect something like this to get some damage during 900 years :)

  • @Crub837
    @Crub837 24 дні тому +1

    Thanks!✌️

  • @meganegan5992
    @meganegan5992 17 днів тому +1

    Jimmy Carter was a decent man in office, and the country never forgave him for that.

  • @jldisme
    @jldisme 23 дні тому

    👑

  • @josecarloelpescadero9164
    @josecarloelpescadero9164 12 днів тому

    About the Cross on top being Bent or Historians don't know why it is that way ..even on the tour in the Big Parliament Building that it is housed in now, when the Guide told us so... I Replied it's a Tilt not a Bent .. I guess that is how Kings wear a crown ..with a Tilt ...so the Cross would be Upright .. & everyone laughed LOL... nice huh? .. but it could be TRUE .. 💚💚💚🐋

  • @orgonaeva7953
    @orgonaeva7953 19 днів тому +1

    🙏❤️🙏

  • @davidmajer3652
    @davidmajer3652 24 дні тому +1

    Great video, but Fort Knox is in Kentucky.

  • @paulhwbooth
    @paulhwbooth 24 дні тому +1

    Habsburgs were crowned at Pressburg, until Charles IV.

    • @birocsabal
      @birocsabal 18 днів тому

      Yes. Becouse during 16-17th centuies the middle of the kingdom was occupied by the ottomans, so the political center of the Kingdom of Hungary was transferred to Pressburg/Pozsony. It stayed that way until the 1848 revolution, after which the center became Pest, later Budapest.

    • @s.corona2514
      @s.corona2514 17 днів тому +1

      Not quite. Ferenc I in 1792 in Buda, then Ferdinand V in Pozsony (Pressburg) in 1830. Ferenc József was crowned in Pest-Buda in 1867.

    • @poonczey
      @poonczey 16 днів тому

      @@s.corona2514 And Karl IV in Budapest.

    • @s.corona2514
      @s.corona2514 13 днів тому

      @@poonczey Yes

  • @kathrynjordan8782
    @kathrynjordan8782 21 день тому +2

    Ft Knox is in Kentucky and not in Arizona. Otherwise, this is an interesting video.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  21 день тому

      I did realise my mistake within seconds of posting -these errors are just to keep listeners on their toes!

    • @thatoneguy8064
      @thatoneguy8064 17 днів тому

      yes he's a moron

  • @tamasbalogh7535
    @tamasbalogh7535 19 днів тому +2

    The Holy Crown - which is not just a simple crown, but a crown for the spiritual initiation of the current king of Hungary - was made in a Caucasian jewellery workshop for Atilla, the great king of the Huns around 450 A.D.
    The Huns are one of the ancestral peoples of the Hungarians, and so they inherited this Holy Crown. Over many centuries, the crown was damaged by many of the enemies of the Hungarians.

    • @juz3r1
      @juz3r1 19 днів тому

      Can you point me to a source? Because none of my historian friends (who are researching the Hun-Hungarian continuity, for example) know about it...

  • @orsino88
    @orsino88 24 дні тому +4

    Thank you for saying “ten hundred” for AD 1000. It is beyond me why we are perfectly capable of saying “seventeen fifty-one” but suddenly say, “two thousand-one,” or, for that matter, “one thousand.”

    • @tovarishcheleonora8542
      @tovarishcheleonora8542 16 днів тому

      Honestl,y it just sounds stupid to say "10-100" or "70-51" instead of "one thousand", "seven thousand fifty one".

  • @wellston2826
    @wellston2826 24 дні тому

    Well, Holy Crown of Hungary, Batman!

  • @ludovica8221
    @ludovica8221 25 днів тому +2

    fascinating🤴

  • @EdMcF1
    @EdMcF1 24 дні тому

    1:09 Weren't the Hapsburgs 'Arch-Dukes of Austria', 'Kings of Hungary' and Emperors of the whole Shebang?

    • @braeden5875
      @braeden5875 24 дні тому +3

      Under the Holy Roman Empire, the Hapsburg ruler was Archduke of Austria and “Emperor of Rome”. A few years before the dissolution of the HRE, Francis I elevated Austria from an Archduchy to an Empire, and from then on Hapsburg rulers were simultaneously King of Hungary and Emperor of Austria.

    • @chrisgrom
      @chrisgrom 18 днів тому +2

      HaBsburg not HaPsburg

    • @poonczey
      @poonczey 16 днів тому

      @@chrisgrom The Hapsburgs were the emperors of Australia and the kings of Hungry!🤣🤣🤣

  • @buchanfoulsham6314
    @buchanfoulsham6314 19 днів тому

    1:36 is thst McCartney?

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  19 днів тому

      Paul McCartney? You must remember I’m English.

  • @kathrynaston6841
    @kathrynaston6841 18 днів тому +1

    Kentucky

  • @AhemLd
    @AhemLd 19 днів тому +3

    It was divine Providence that our leader Szálasi Ferenc sent our Holy Crown to Austria, and it fell into the hands of the Americans who at that time were an honourable people, instead of the Soviets, who were a horde of savages.

  • @morthim
    @morthim 15 днів тому

    was it drawn by the royal while a child?

  • @sodapop83
    @sodapop83 17 днів тому +1

    géza was a good geezer 😆

  • @jamesallison4875
    @jamesallison4875 19 днів тому

    Ft Knox is located in Kentucky, not Arizona.

  • @deborahdushane
    @deborahdushane 21 день тому

    Ft Knox is in Kentucky

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  21 день тому

      I know, I did pin a comment to the video about this at the time I posted it.

  • @Akitlosz
    @Akitlosz 13 днів тому

    St Stephen received a crown from Pope Sylvester II from Rome for his coronation on Christmas 1000. Hungary did not want to be dependent on either the Byzantine Empire or the Holy Roman Empire. That is why he chose Rome and the Pope to accept Christianity. The Pope gave the king of Hungary an apostolic title, which gives the king the right to appoint bishops, archbishops and abbots. The Pope just approves.

    • @s.corona2514
      @s.corona2514 13 днів тому

      No. Stephen did not receive a crown from the Pope. A crown was made for him.

  • @ladyagnes9430
    @ladyagnes9430 24 дні тому +1

    Ft Knox is not in Arazona

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  23 дні тому

      I did pin a comment about this to the video.

  • @moone924
    @moone924 21 день тому

    Fort Knox is in Kentucky

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  21 день тому +1

      It is indeed, I realised my mistake within seconds of releasing the video and pinned a comment accordingly.

    • @moone924
      @moone924 20 днів тому

      @@allanbarton missed it - sorry. Thanks for the awesome videos

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  20 днів тому +1

      @@moone924 no worries at all, thanks for taking the time to comment.

  • @cherylmarcuri5506
    @cherylmarcuri5506 23 дні тому

    Fort Knox is in Kentucky, not Arizona. You're thinking of London Bridge.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  23 дні тому

      I realise I made a mistake there! 😅

  • @ande100
    @ande100 24 дні тому

    All nice and dandy, but Fort Knox is still Kentucky.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  24 дні тому

      Thanks for the correction, glad you liked the video! 🙂

  • @jstantongood5474
    @jstantongood5474 24 дні тому

    Ummm. Since when is fort knox in Arizona???

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  24 дні тому

      You are one of many to have corrected that particular slip-up! Thanks 😆

  • @mariabencze-ei6eg
    @mariabencze-ei6eg 18 днів тому

    Is this the real history of the story?

  • @Carburetors_and_calamaties
    @Carburetors_and_calamaties 25 днів тому +3

    Fort Knox is in Kentucky, not Arizona

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  25 днів тому +5

      I’m going to start a swear box for everyone who mentions this!

  • @UnderPresser
    @UnderPresser 14 днів тому

    Um, Fort Knox is in Kentucky.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  14 днів тому

      Thank you for letting me know.

  • @Blade_Daddy
    @Blade_Daddy 25 днів тому +2

    Ft. Knox is in Kentucky.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  25 днів тому +1

      My American geography is not the best!

  • @christopheraliaga-kelly6254
    @christopheraliaga-kelly6254 20 днів тому +1

    I heard that after defeating the Hungarians at the Battle of Mohacs, the Mongol commander Hulegu demanded access to the Royal Palace at Uj-Pest and that this crown be bought to him! But, as the terrified Hungarian officials brought it, on a 'cloth-of-gold' cushion, the sneering victor picked it up and attempted to put it on his own head!
    But, he had a seizure and dropped the crown, causing the crucifix on top to be bent! The awestruck Mongols helped the pale and embarrassed chief to leave the room alive!
    The Mongols did not go ahead with their plan to advance down the Danube but retreated back to Mongolia, allegedly terrified by the incident! And so, it could have been that this crown saved Europe from becoming part of the Mongol Empire

    •  20 днів тому +5

      The battle of Mohács was almost 300 years after the mongolian invasion.

    • @gabork5055
      @gabork5055 20 днів тому +2

      There's also another myth about people dressing in busó-costumes and chasing the mongols away.
      But both are just that, myths.

    • @birocsabal
      @birocsabal 18 днів тому +2

      ​@@gabork5055 It was during ottoman times, against the turks

    • @tovarishcheleonora8542
      @tovarishcheleonora8542 16 днів тому

      As Hungarian, i never heard that story before. I wonder where you possible heard it from.

  • @accademiaoscura7870
    @accademiaoscura7870 23 дні тому

    Fort Knox is in Kentucky… but early on in the video you say it’s Arizona… maybe you misspoke?

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  23 дні тому +1

      Thanks, no, I made a mistake, as plenty of people are pointing out for me! American history and geography are not my forte!

  • @matthesdittmann6165
    @matthesdittmann6165 19 днів тому

    Might be a minor difference, but the Emperors of Austria were Kings of Hungary, Not the other way around

    • @fehervari98
      @fehervari98 16 днів тому

      No, neither was either. There was the Austrian Emperor and there was the King of Hungary. Both titles merely happened to be possessed by the same person(s). The two titles had no legal connection whatsoever.

    • @matthesdittmann6165
      @matthesdittmann6165 15 днів тому

      @@fehervari98 that is true, but, AS you said, at the Beginning of the 20th century Franz Josef was Emperor of Austria and King of Hungary

    • @fehervari98
      @fehervari98 15 днів тому

      @@matthesdittmann6165 What's your point?
      "Franz Josef was King of Hungary and Austrian Emperor"
      "Franz Josef was Austrian Emperor and King of Hungary"
      It makes no difference to say it in either order. It is true though, that usually the more prestigious title is listed first, but that's merely a common practice.

  • @luchadorito
    @luchadorito 20 днів тому +2

    A fun tidbit: when the communist regime was being replaced by the Third Republic, there was a lively debate over wether the Kingdom of Hungary's lesser coat of arms, adorned with the Holy Crown, or it's crownless and slightly differently shaped variant from the 1848 revolution (the so called Kossuth coat of arms) should replace the former communist coat of arms. The conservative side supporting the crowned coat of arms won and it has been ever since (sadly, I personally much prefer both symbolically and aestheticly the revolutionary coat of arms)

    • @juz3r1
      @juz3r1 19 днів тому

      What a right decision they made and we didn't end up in some Masonic, Jacobin dictatorship... Have you seen the tomb of those executed for the Martinovich conspiracy? There is a sentence from Petőfi on it...

  • @stephaniecowans3646
    @stephaniecowans3646 24 дні тому

    Whoa. . . . hold on -- Ft. Knox is in Kentucky, not Arizona as pointed out by @sladestumbo4117 . I don't see anyone else pointing this out, maybe because many of the folks commenting are not in the U.S.? Other than that, this was a most informative video about the crown's history.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  24 дні тому

      I did pin a comment to the post addressing my error, that’s probably why there are few comments about it.

    • @stephaniecowans3646
      @stephaniecowans3646 24 дні тому

      @allanbarton 👍 I want to say that I do enjoy all your videos. It's like I get a personally guided tour to the various places you go to.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  24 дні тому

      Thank you, that’s lovely of you.

  • @alejandrocantu4652
    @alejandrocantu4652 19 днів тому

    SINCE WHEN IS FORT KNOX IN ARIZONA? REALY. Forty Knox is in Kentucky.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  19 днів тому +1

      Is it? Are you sure?

    • @alejandrocantu4652
      @alejandrocantu4652 19 днів тому

      @@allanbarton en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Knox
      I did like the video

  • @user-xx1tm5fe9u
    @user-xx1tm5fe9u 24 дні тому

    Fort Knox is not in Arizona. It's in Kentucky. Nixon separated the value of US dollar from the value of gold in 1971. Fort Knox changed from a gold-storage facility to a military installation. In case you thought the Americans were being virtuous, be sure that they needed to send the crown back because they were no longer using the military to guard valuables at Fort Knox.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  24 дні тому

      How interesting, thank you! Yes, I’m being made painfully aware of my weakness in American history and geography, thanks for the heads-up!

  • @RaceSmokie
    @RaceSmokie 19 днів тому

    Imagine the crown, but not some ordinary one! It is The Holly Crown! Woaaah! Does it cure hemorrhoids?

  • @baneofbanes
    @baneofbanes 24 дні тому

    I will say mixing up Kentucky with Arizona is an odd choice. But no worries, I know you’re not an American.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  24 дні тому +1

      I wonder how many more people will point that particular mistake out! 😆 Thanks for watching!

    • @baneofbanes
      @baneofbanes 24 дні тому

      @@allanbarton yah I noticed you getting dragged for that a lot in the comments, my main thing is that Kentucky and Arizona are nowhere near each other. It’s comparable to saying Lisbon is in say Finland instead of Portugal for a roughly equal distance comparison. I’m really not trying to make fun of you here though.