Ahhh....I was there in '74 at La Source hairpin, watching Phil Read win that day, on his way to the World Championship. Unforgettable. The sound of the MVs there and at the TT, Brands, Mallory etc will stay with me to my dying day. Even when the other classes were racing, you could hear the spine-tingling sound of the MVs warming up in the paddock over it all.... Just pure magic.
The biggest part of the Super 8 cameras used at that age by the amateurs cameraman was unable to record also the sound. This is probably the reason they added a soundtrack
I've a large '74 poster on the wall of Phil on his 500/4 head on shot . He's cranked over on a left hand bend facial expression fixed, cool and unruffled, most impressive. A dangerous but amazing racing period.
I don't understand all the criticisms for the music. evidently the quality of the original audio was not usable or aligned to the (high quality) of the video. And the music is absolutely in armony with the style of the period, it's very 70's sounding and perfectly combined with the video. Thanks for this very nice work
*I well remember the Race of the Year at Mallory Park September 1964, and long after the race had finished and the crowds had gone, asking a Marshall if I could drive my car (Citroen DS19) around the circuit, he said better ask Mike (Hailwood) and directed me to him. I asked Mike, who I had briefly met a number of times before, and he said of course you can, and told the Marshall to let me through the top gate (Near Hairpin) - He said come back after we are having a bit of a Party with Chris Barber later. Did two/three laps and then went back. Mike appeared genuinely pleased to see me again and asked how I got on. Had a good laugh together as we found had a lot of common interests (3 years older than me and born on the same date 2nd April) and had been to the Belgian Grand Prix the previous year in my Morris Minor 1000. Stayed until late with many of the riders and "Chris Barber & his Jazzmen" playing. Imagine that today, the pits were open and you didn't need a fancy pass to get in. I was very keen on Jazz Bands, and in fact had an Acker Bilk Beard at the time, and was often mistaken for him ! (Maybe Mike thought I was "Acker") Still got the Program Price 2/6p and signed by many riders then including Phil Read, Jim Redman, Mike Duff, Bill Ivy etc. Incidentally Mike Won the race on the MV Agusta and was £1000 richer. Huge amount in those days. So no wonder he was happy. He held the 350cc Lap Record from 62-64 at 84.93 mph and the 500cc Lap record at 53 seconds 91.70 mph in 1962* *What a great person Mike was, and a terrible loss to Motor Sport. I was not aware at the time I was talking to a Millionaire's son, as Mike was so modest and unpretentious, an everyday kind of Guy.*
@@mike7297 Memories Light the corners of my mind Misty watercolor memories Of the way we were Scattered pictures Of the smiles we left behind Smiles we gave to one another For the way we were Can it be that it was all so simple then? Or has time re-written every line? If we had the chance to do it all again Tell me, would we? Could we? Memories May be beautiful and yet What's too painful to remember We simply to choose to forget So it's the laughter We will remember Whenever we remember The way we were The way we were
Sur une musique de F de Roubaix ( RIP) « les aventuriers » ….on ne pouvait mieux choisir car ces pilotes qui nous ont fait rêver en étaient …des sacrés Aventuriers !!!! Merci pour cette vidéo qui rappelle les belles heures de la moto 👍
This is the end of 4 strokes. Pity they could have them running together with regulations that makes things equally competitive. I never like the 2 strokes I'm glad the 4 stroke came back. Mv the best looking bike out there. The guys riding than had balls of steel the helmets the leathers doesn't give much protection lol.
I agree. Seasons 74 and 75 must have been the best ever, the clash between 2s and 4s was really well balanced. Such a pity MV AUGUSTA retired... they should have signed luchinelli or such A pity there is no FOOTAGE of those years... Ago Yamaha VS Read MV...
Well, in that period I was a kid and I supported Agostini and MV, so when Ago moved to Yamaha I had to decide who to stay with .. In the end I was with Phil and Gianfranco on the glorious old school MV 4 stroke, haha!
@@jeanclaudevivier7126 Totalmente de acuerdo, me alegra 👍🏼 mucho ver que no estoy solo, para mi el sonido de un motor alto de vueltas,y con la cadencia de subir marchas o reducir es música celestial, 🎶 gracias por estar de acuerdo conmigo y que nuestra pasión no tenga fronteras, yo la mantengo a pesar de contar ya con sesentaiocho años y yendo en moto
A nouveau la musique remplace le chant des motos. De 2 choses l'une: ou bien il n'y a pas de bande son, pourquoi ?, ou alors le "monteur" pense que c'est mieux avec de la musique !. Stupide, il s'agit bien de sport mécanique et pas d'un concert de musique
No cornering on their sides back then, no tyre technology at all. Primitive suspension. Look at the difference between then and say 1984, a grand canyon in speed.
Thanks to the magic of UA-cam. There are many , many videos out there that conclusively prove that Kenny Roberts senior did not "invent " getting the knee down.
Agree about KR not being the first to use his knee on the ground but he was the first to perfect the skill of rear wheel drifting just as they used in US dirt track racing. Think he was also the first to put tape on the knee area of his leathers before knee sliders were introduced. All skilled riders though no question.
Came here to watch epic time of motorbike Grand prix, just to find out that Robbie Williams stole François de Roubaix music for his song Supreme. Son of a ...
Went on a coach trip from Belfast to see this race and the Dutch TT . They were still on the old track and Read was clocked at over 180 mph on his 500!!. So many great riders and bikes in one race . The most memorable thing was the sound of the two MVs echoing round the hills. Fantastic !!
@@tabstabs1204 If you can understand English "clocked at " means top speed and I still have the copy of MCN that says "Read at 180" on the front page. And if you had been there MV had two riders that season Read and Gianfranco Bonera . Phil Read R.I.P.
My favourite track of all time closely followed by Monza. The days when the racing was all about the skill of the rider and just the best technology, no traction control or electronics to help out. Bikes fairly equal and even the MV four strokes could match the best two strokes from Japan. Tyre technology was also fairly equal and no need for control tyres. Certainly took some guts to be quick as safety concerns were not really a concern, until King Kenny came along a few years later anyway. Average lap speed still held at this track I think since 1977.
In that glorious period I was a kid and I supported Agostini and MV, so when Ago moved to Yamaha I had to decide who to support. In the end I was with Phil and Gianfranco on the glorious old school MV 4 stroke!
Is it a coincidence that the music is just like Robbie William's Love Supreme, the video to which was the 1970 Belgian GP? If the music is from the era, I suppose royalties were paid to the original writers.
superbe musique de François de Roubaix. dernier domicile connu. un film à revoir. fin d une époque comme en 500 le chant du cygne du 4 temps mv.augusta
Et aussi « les aventuriers » en début de vidéo.. bien vu car de Roubaix était amateur ( entre autre) de sports mécaniques , et ses musiques superbes collent bien à cette époque …. Que les chanceux ont vécut .
L age d or de la moto...la passion Le sport ...la vitesse..les odeurs !! Tout le meilleur...sans les restrictions des budgets d aujourd hui...meme les salons du 2 roues N ont plus rien a voir avec cette epoque.....gaz !!!!...lacaze !
c'est atroce une course de moto sans moteur un sal bruit de musique a la place de la mélodie des mégaphones c'est pas génial . quel gachis . plus envie de regarder les grand s prix comme ça . manque la grande musique des mégaphones . tout l'intérêt était là je pense que tous les connaisseurs vont être déçu de cette censure inadmissible . H.R
D'accord avec vous Henri !! J'avais vu la même année le Grand Prix de France à Charade où Phil Read, comme en Belgique, avait également gagné en 500cc et le titre à la fin de la saison ! De grands souvenirs ! Cordialement
Oui certainement, mais quand l'enregistrement a été effectué avec une caméra sans micro, ce qui était la majorité à l'époque , vous faites commun ??? Les images sont géniales, surtout de la part d'un amateur comme Aimé Léonard. Vos paroles sont extrémistes car il n'y a aucune censure, c'est juste que le film est comme ça ...
@Luis Alberto Pinto Sanchez C'est du Super 8, j'ai fait plusieurs bobines de film de GP à l'époque, les cartouches super 8 Kodak (15 m) duraient 3 minutes de projection, les caméras étaient muettes, les sonores sont sorties en 1974 mais elles coutaient cher et il fallait faire une post-synchro et avoir le projo adequat. Toute une époque et merci pour ce document.
Ouais... Dommage pour le "son", je confirme.....Sans le "SON" ce sera fini des "spectateurs" !....Imaginez dans 30 ou 40 ans (ou avant), les mêmes courses avec des bécanes "électriques" !!..... Il faut du bruit et de la fumée, il faut des odeurs, il faut des belles nanas, il faut de la bière, il faut de l'ambiance !....Sinon, Il n'y aura même plus de "VIE" !......Hélas, c'est le monde qu'on nous promet !.....Elle va être "belle" la "vie" !....Pitin, j'ai bien fait de naitre avant toute cette M.r.e !......M'en fous, les "MV" étant trop chères, j'ai au moins eu la chance de piloter des "DUCAT" !.....J'adore les "Italiennes" !......Sont vraiment trop forts ces mecs !......
RIP Phil. A true champion.
Ahhh....I was there in '74 at La Source hairpin, watching Phil Read win that day, on his way to the World Championship. Unforgettable. The sound of the MVs there and at the TT, Brands, Mallory etc will stay with me to my dying day. Even when the other classes were racing, you could hear the spine-tingling sound of the MVs warming up in the paddock over it all.... Just pure magic.
Bullshit.......
J'ai connu ça aussi ! magnifique
@@jeanclaudevivier7126 Excellente! Que de jours heureux... ☺
I can understand and try to imagine. Bellissimo
what a shame the real music of this historic event was obscured by something you can pick up anyday from a music shop
The biggest part of the Super 8 cameras used at that age by the amateurs cameraman was unable to record also the sound. This is probably the reason they added a soundtrack
I've a large '74 poster on the wall of Phil on his 500/4 head on shot . He's cranked over on a left hand bend facial expression fixed, cool and unruffled, most impressive. A dangerous but amazing racing period.
Hmmmm,MV had winglets back in the 70’s? Very interesting!🤔🤔🤔
Great film to watch, but no music can replace the actual sounds of a racetrack, before during and after a race.
Already aero was a concern at the time on the MV Agusta with front winglets at 2.01..!!...MotoJournal..la classe..!!
Winglets on Phil's bike.
I don't understand all the criticisms for the music. evidently the quality of the original audio was not usable or aligned to the (high quality) of the video. And the music is absolutely in armony with the style of the period, it's very 70's sounding and perfectly combined with the video. Thanks for this very nice work
Phil Read 1973-1974 MV ruless
*I well remember the Race of the Year at Mallory Park September 1964, and long after the race had finished and the crowds had gone, asking a Marshall if I could drive my car (Citroen DS19) around the circuit, he said better ask Mike (Hailwood) and directed me to him. I asked Mike, who I had briefly met a number of times before, and he said of course you can, and told the Marshall to let me through the top gate (Near Hairpin) - He said come back after we are having a bit of a Party with Chris Barber later. Did two/three laps and then went back. Mike appeared genuinely pleased to see me again and asked how I got on. Had a good laugh together as we found had a lot of common interests (3 years older than me and born on the same date 2nd April) and had been to the Belgian Grand Prix the previous year in my Morris Minor 1000. Stayed until late with many of the riders and "Chris Barber & his Jazzmen" playing. Imagine that today, the pits were open and you didn't need a fancy pass to get in. I was very keen on Jazz Bands, and in fact had an Acker Bilk Beard at the time, and was often mistaken for him ! (Maybe Mike thought I was "Acker") Still got the Program Price 2/6p and signed by many riders then including Phil Read, Jim Redman, Mike Duff, Bill Ivy etc. Incidentally Mike Won the race on the MV Agusta and was £1000 richer. Huge amount in those days. So no wonder he was happy. He held the 350cc Lap Record from 62-64 at 84.93 mph and the 500cc Lap record at 53 seconds 91.70 mph in 1962*
*What a great person Mike was, and a terrible loss to Motor Sport. I was not aware at the time I was talking to a Millionaire's son, as Mike was so modest and unpretentious, an everyday kind of Guy.*
Chris barber and John Mayall had the best collection of blues records from America in early 60,s
wow, thanks for the share
@@mike7297
Memories
Light the corners of my mind
Misty watercolor memories
Of the way we were
Scattered pictures
Of the smiles we left behind
Smiles we gave to one another
For the way we were
Can it be that it was all so simple then?
Or has time re-written every line?
If we had the chance to do it all again
Tell me, would we?
Could we?
Memories
May be beautiful and yet
What's too painful to remember
We simply to choose to forget
So it's the laughter
We will remember
Whenever we remember
The way we were
The way we were
@@GrrMeister sir, how can keep in touch with you ? Facebook ? How can I search u there
What the hell is that f***ing music
Stupid annoying music!
j'y était , la belle époque,mv avec des ailerons comme en 2016..
Ago wearing no 1 is odd. Read won the title in 73, so why is he No.2?
Ago had no 1 as a personal thing. Ego. He had no 4 on his bike.
Musique de François de Roubaix :
- "Les aventuriers" , 1967
- "Dernier domicile connu" , 1970
Sur une musique de F de Roubaix ( RIP) « les aventuriers » ….on ne pouvait mieux choisir car ces pilotes qui nous ont fait rêver en étaient …des sacrés Aventuriers !!!! Merci pour cette vidéo qui rappelle les belles heures de la moto 👍
Such a shame the sounds of the bikes was edited out and canned music put in it's place.
I was there - at La Source hairpin! Unforgettable.
Amazed how well the mv competed against the 2 strokes
Agostini proving that it wasn’t the bike, it was the rider! And that’s a reference to Jarno Saarinen, not Phil Read.
Exact ! merci pour le commentaire
A che serve questa c. di musica?? Dove è il suono della mv quel rombo d' armonia???
This is the end of 4 strokes. Pity they could have them running together with regulations that makes things equally competitive. I never like the 2 strokes I'm glad the 4 stroke came back. Mv the best looking bike out there. The guys riding than had balls of steel the helmets the leathers doesn't give much protection lol.
I agree. Seasons 74 and 75 must have been the best ever, the clash between 2s and 4s was really well balanced. Such a pity MV AUGUSTA retired... they should have signed luchinelli or such
A pity there is no FOOTAGE of those years... Ago Yamaha VS Read MV...
Something wrong with this video, there is a constant loud noise that's drowning out the beautiful music of the engines
Scheen lap record more than 222km/h ...but Read win!
Speedie Readie always my favourite
Wonderful.. and to find some footage of my dear mother Madeleine.
Well, in that period I was a kid and I supported Agostini and MV, so when Ago moved to Yamaha I had to decide who to stay with ..
In the end I was with Phil and Gianfranco on the glorious old school MV 4 stroke, haha!
Muy bonito pero cambiaria la musiquita tontuna por la slnfonia de los megafons de la MV y el sonido metalico de los tubarros la Yamaha
Bien dit !!
@@jeanclaudevivier7126 Totalmente de acuerdo, me alegra 👍🏼 mucho ver que no estoy solo, para mi el sonido de un motor alto de vueltas,y con la cadencia de subir marchas o reducir es música celestial, 🎶 gracias por estar de acuerdo conmigo y que nuestra pasión no tenga fronteras, yo la mantengo a pesar de contar ya con sesentaiocho años y yendo en moto
I watched this despite the music.
It must of seemed so wondrous at the time to be able to record moving pictures that nobody was concerned about the lack of sound.
"...must have..."
Definitely prefer the actual sounds to music
old good time
i remember it
A nouveau la musique remplace le chant des motos. De 2 choses l'une: ou bien il n'y a pas de bande son, pourquoi ?, ou alors le "monteur" pense que c'est mieux avec de la musique !. Stupide, il s'agit bien de sport mécanique et pas d'un concert de musique
No cornering on their sides back then, no tyre technology at all.
Primitive suspension. Look at the difference between then and say 1984, a grand canyon in speed.
🔥
🏁🏁🏁interesting race🏎️🏎️🏎️
1:54 🔥💘
👇👇👇👇
Wow what a nice style of leathers and colours of bikes and helmets they all have !!!
Thanks to the magic of UA-cam. There are many , many videos out there that conclusively prove that Kenny Roberts senior did not "invent " getting the knee down.
Jarnno with his ice racing techniques...?
Agree about KR not being the first to use his knee on the ground but he was the first to perfect the skill of rear wheel drifting just as they used in US dirt track racing. Think he was also the first to put tape on the knee area of his leathers before knee sliders were introduced. All skilled riders though no question.
Came here to watch epic time of motorbike Grand prix, just to find out that Robbie Williams stole François de Roubaix music for his song Supreme.
Son of a ...
Went on a coach trip from Belfast to see this race and the Dutch TT . They were still on the old track and Read was clocked at over 180 mph on his 500!!. So many great riders and bikes in one race . The most memorable thing was the sound of the two MVs echoing round the hills. Fantastic !!
Lap record from Sheene 2 years later was at 137 mph, so your 180 mph never ever happened. And only 1 MV !!
@@tabstabs1204 If you can understand English "clocked at " means top speed and I still have the copy of MCN that says "Read at 180" on the front page. And if you had been there MV had two riders that season Read and Gianfranco Bonera . Phil Read R.I.P.
My favourite track of all time closely followed by Monza. The days when the racing was all about the skill of the rider and just the best technology, no traction control or electronics to help out. Bikes fairly equal and even the MV four strokes could match the best two strokes from Japan. Tyre technology was also fairly equal and no need for control tyres. Certainly took some guts to be quick as safety concerns were not really a concern, until King Kenny came along a few years later anyway. Average lap speed still held at this track I think since 1977.
In that glorious period I was a kid and I supported Agostini and MV, so when Ago moved to Yamaha I had to decide who to support. In the end I was with Phil and Gianfranco on the glorious old school MV 4 stroke!
1974, le chant du cygne pour les MV, triste.
But they won!
in the 70s you never see a race in television
In Spain started un 1983
The noise of the music is getting on my nerves. How can such great historic sport events be accompanied by such a penetrating noise. Disgusting !
I was there with a friend on his photopress pass. I thought Eau Rouge was possibly the scariest section ever.
Bom dia! Bons tempos. Pilotos corajosos, muito corajosos.
Musik sind die Klänge der Motorräder und nicht das komische Gedudel, Schade um das schöne Video 👎
Kill the soundtrack!
Per mhe se ricordo bene il nome Gianfranco boners. Boners bonersa ha fatto. Sempre da spalla ma era un grande pilota
Si chiama Bonera, aveva finito terzo al GP di Francia 1974 (Charade), avevo 18 anni e ero spettatore !! Ciao da Francia ! 😄
Musique qui l'emporte sur le bruit des motos .. dommage
Che senso ha quella stupida musica ? VOGLIAMO SENTIRE IL SUONO DEI MOTORI, MV primis, puoi ripostarlo ?
Is it a coincidence that the music is just like Robbie William's Love Supreme, the video to which was the 1970 Belgian GP? If the music is from the era, I suppose royalties were paid to the original writers.
This would been a great video without the awful background music.
Paroni kyykytti kumpaakin :D
superbe musique de François de Roubaix. dernier domicile connu. un film à revoir. fin d une époque comme en 500 le chant du cygne du 4 temps mv.augusta
Et aussi « les aventuriers » en début de vidéo.. bien vu car de Roubaix était amateur ( entre autre) de sports mécaniques , et ses musiques superbes collent bien à cette époque …. Que les chanceux ont vécut .
L age d or de la moto...la passion
Le sport ...la vitesse..les odeurs !!
Tout le meilleur...sans les restrictions des budgets d aujourd hui...meme les salons du 2 roues
N ont plus rien a voir avec cette epoque.....gaz !!!!...lacaze !
Today, restrictions are imposed, cos otherwise, the 280 hp bikes would fly
2:32 Smoking in the paddock. XD
nascut1984
Barry Sheene was known to smoke on the start line
And in ThE planes
RIP. Phil.
Video interessante
Musica terribile
Ohh...look, theres wings on the MV..
those little wings they put on bikes today are not a new idea the bike and rider at 0.47
Phil Read - MV Augusta
VERY GOOD Eye! it is true....Italia again
1:52 MV Agusta with aerodynamic wings 1974
Practice only . Phil Read did not like them.
read then sheene (30) Ago (3) and Franco Bonnera (56)
Subbie Jon is #4 Johnny Cecotto? 1:05
And who is #12?
Dieter Braun
nr. 4 is Agostini ; Cecotto started his GP career in 1975
lots of 351cc yamahas
Only 15 times world Champion!!!!
racing against manx nortons and G 50s
grazie per le.immagini
Traduzione. Italia
Wonderfully evocative music of Francois de Roubaix.
c'est atroce une course de moto sans moteur un sal bruit de musique a la place de la mélodie des mégaphones c'est pas génial . quel gachis . plus envie de regarder les grand s prix comme ça . manque la grande musique des mégaphones . tout l'intérêt était là je pense que tous les connaisseurs vont être déçu de cette censure inadmissible . H.R
D'accord avec vous Henri !! J'avais vu la même année le Grand Prix de France à Charade où Phil Read, comme en Belgique, avait également gagné en 500cc et le titre à la fin de la saison ! De grands souvenirs ! Cordialement
Oui certainement, mais quand l'enregistrement a été effectué avec une caméra sans micro, ce qui était la majorité à l'époque , vous faites commun ??? Les images sont géniales, surtout de la part d'un amateur comme Aimé Léonard. Vos paroles sont extrémistes car il n'y a aucune censure, c'est juste que le film est comme ça ...
Oui , pas de bande son "live", enfin ça aurait pu être pire, comme un éternel rock'n roll ou hard rock , une seule solution, couper le son.
@Luis Alberto Pinto Sanchez C'est du Super 8, j'ai fait plusieurs bobines de film de GP à l'époque, les cartouches super 8 Kodak (15 m) duraient 3 minutes de projection, les caméras étaient muettes, les sonores sont sorties en 1974 mais elles coutaient cher et il fallait faire une post-synchro et avoir le projo adequat. Toute une époque et merci pour ce document.
Ouais... Dommage pour le "son", je confirme.....Sans le "SON" ce sera fini des "spectateurs" !....Imaginez dans 30 ou 40 ans (ou avant), les mêmes courses avec des bécanes "électriques" !!..... Il faut du bruit et de la fumée, il faut des odeurs, il faut des belles nanas, il faut de la bière, il faut de l'ambiance !....Sinon, Il n'y aura même plus de "VIE" !......Hélas, c'est le monde qu'on nous promet !.....Elle va être "belle" la "vie" !....Pitin, j'ai bien fait de naitre avant toute cette M.r.e !......M'en fous, les "MV" étant trop chères, j'ai au moins eu la chance de piloter des "DUCAT" !.....J'adore les "Italiennes" !......Sont vraiment trop forts ces mecs !......
very nice video !!
Traduzione
Where's Kenny?
He was flat track racing in the USA.
great movie but no sound shame
Crap music ruined what should have been a good movie.
They often did this with super 8, which had no sound recording facility. You dick.
En "74" j'avais 17 ans....Et une SPR 50 !!.....Mais je prenais les virages comme eux !....
Bravo !
@@lucienterragnolo6063 Pour ça aussi que je connais bien le "mercure au chrome" !...
Víctor Palomo 5'50 !
Spanish Pioneer
Typical crap bike racing film, music over the sound of the bikes and a cameraman who never ventures more than 100yds from the paddock
It's Super 8. No sound on that. You teat bag!
Belle ballade musical....sur fond
De merveilleux films...
La moto s accorde tres bien aussi
Une passion de l evasion !!
MV Agusrta
Perfect music.