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  • @reddogchi
    @reddogchi 3 роки тому +25

    Ahhh....I was there in '74 at La Source hairpin, watching Phil Read win that day, on his way to the World Championship. Unforgettable. The sound of the MVs there and at the TT, Brands, Mallory etc will stay with me to my dying day. Even when the other classes were racing, you could hear the spine-tingling sound of the MVs warming up in the paddock over it all.... Just pure magic.

    • @bjm4148
      @bjm4148 2 роки тому

      Bullshit.......

    • @jeanclaudevivier7126
      @jeanclaudevivier7126 Рік тому +1

      J'ai connu ça aussi ! magnifique

    • @reddogchi
      @reddogchi Рік тому +1

      @@jeanclaudevivier7126 Excellente! Que de jours heureux... ☺

    • @studiocalder818
      @studiocalder818 Рік тому +1

      I can understand and try to imagine. Bellissimo

  • @TheMickvee
    @TheMickvee 2 роки тому +13

    RIP Phil. A true champion.

  • @FIREBLADEONE
    @FIREBLADEONE 2 роки тому +7

    I've a large '74 poster on the wall of Phil on his 500/4 head on shot . He's cranked over on a left hand bend facial expression fixed, cool and unruffled, most impressive. A dangerous but amazing racing period.

  • @pasko59000
    @pasko59000 2 роки тому +3

    Sur une musique de F de Roubaix ( RIP) « les aventuriers » ….on ne pouvait mieux choisir car ces pilotes qui nous ont fait rêver en étaient …des sacrés Aventuriers !!!! Merci pour cette vidéo qui rappelle les belles heures de la moto 👍

  • @hectorherbert6585
    @hectorherbert6585 Рік тому +4

    Already aero was a concern at the time on the MV Agusta with front winglets at 2.01..!!...MotoJournal..la classe..!!

  • @philreadjr
    @philreadjr 2 роки тому +1

    Wonderful.. and to find some footage of my dear mother Madeleine.

  • @GrrMeister
    @GrrMeister 2 роки тому +5

    *I well remember the Race of the Year at Mallory Park September 1964, and long after the race had finished and the crowds had gone, asking a Marshall if I could drive my car (Citroen DS19) around the circuit, he said better ask Mike (Hailwood) and directed me to him. I asked Mike, who I had briefly met a number of times before, and he said of course you can, and told the Marshall to let me through the top gate (Near Hairpin) - He said come back after we are having a bit of a Party with Chris Barber later. Did two/three laps and then went back. Mike appeared genuinely pleased to see me again and asked how I got on. Had a good laugh together as we found had a lot of common interests (3 years older than me and born on the same date 2nd April) and had been to the Belgian Grand Prix the previous year in my Morris Minor 1000. Stayed until late with many of the riders and "Chris Barber & his Jazzmen" playing. Imagine that today, the pits were open and you didn't need a fancy pass to get in. I was very keen on Jazz Bands, and in fact had an Acker Bilk Beard at the time, and was often mistaken for him ! (Maybe Mike thought I was "Acker") Still got the Program Price 2/6p and signed by many riders then including Phil Read, Jim Redman, Mike Duff, Bill Ivy etc. Incidentally Mike Won the race on the MV Agusta and was £1000 richer. Huge amount in those days. So no wonder he was happy. He held the 350cc Lap Record from 62-64 at 84.93 mph and the 500cc Lap record at 53 seconds 91.70 mph in 1962*
    *What a great person Mike was, and a terrible loss to Motor Sport. I was not aware at the time I was talking to a Millionaire's son, as Mike was so modest and unpretentious, an everyday kind of Guy.*

    • @pabloperez4063
      @pabloperez4063 2 роки тому +2

      Chris barber and John Mayall had the best collection of blues records from America in early 60,s

    • @mike7297
      @mike7297 2 роки тому +1

      wow, thanks for the share

    • @GrrMeister
      @GrrMeister 2 роки тому +1

      @@mike7297
      Memories
      Light the corners of my mind
      Misty watercolor memories
      Of the way we were
      Scattered pictures
      Of the smiles we left behind
      Smiles we gave to one another
      For the way we were
      Can it be that it was all so simple then?
      Or has time re-written every line?
      If we had the chance to do it all again
      Tell me, would we?
      Could we?
      Memories
      May be beautiful and yet
      What's too painful to remember
      We simply to choose to forget
      So it's the laughter
      We will remember
      Whenever we remember
      The way we were
      The way we were

    • @mike7297
      @mike7297 2 роки тому

      @@GrrMeister sir, how can keep in touch with you ? Facebook ? How can I search u there

  • @RetroRidingEveryday
    @RetroRidingEveryday 2 роки тому +4

    I don't understand all the criticisms for the music. evidently the quality of the original audio was not usable or aligned to the (high quality) of the video. And the music is absolutely in armony with the style of the period, it's very 70's sounding and perfectly combined with the video. Thanks for this very nice work

  • @reddogchi
    @reddogchi 6 років тому +4

    I was there - at La Source hairpin! Unforgettable.

  • @MrAckers75
    @MrAckers75 2 роки тому +3

    Amazed how well the mv competed against the 2 strokes

  • @thatmanstu23
    @thatmanstu23 3 роки тому +9

    Great film to watch, but no music can replace the actual sounds of a racetrack, before during and after a race.

  • @janerose5802
    @janerose5802 2 роки тому +2

    RIP. Phil.

  • @davidstromaine5990
    @davidstromaine5990 3 роки тому +2

    Speedie Readie always my favourite

  • @lievensymaeys6891
    @lievensymaeys6891 6 років тому +2

    Wow what a nice style of leathers and colours of bikes and helmets they all have !!!

  • @JohnMartin-ux2rm
    @JohnMartin-ux2rm 7 років тому +10

    Went on a coach trip from Belfast to see this race and the Dutch TT . They were still on the old track and Read was clocked at over 180 mph on his 500!!. So many great riders and bikes in one race . The most memorable thing was the sound of the two MVs echoing round the hills. Fantastic !!

    • @tabstabs1204
      @tabstabs1204 2 роки тому

      Lap record from Sheene 2 years later was at 137 mph, so your 180 mph never ever happened. And only 1 MV !!

    • @JohnMartin-ux2rm
      @JohnMartin-ux2rm 2 роки тому +2

      @@tabstabs1204 If you can understand English "clocked at " means top speed and I still have the copy of MCN that says "Read at 180" on the front page. And if you had been there MV had two riders that season Read and Gianfranco Bonera . Phil Read R.I.P.

  • @bjm4148
    @bjm4148 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks to the magic of UA-cam. There are many , many videos out there that conclusively prove that Kenny Roberts senior did not "invent " getting the knee down.

    • @MrPomdownunder
      @MrPomdownunder 2 роки тому

      Jarnno with his ice racing techniques...?

    • @topcat4759
      @topcat4759 2 роки тому

      Agree about KR not being the first to use his knee on the ground but he was the first to perfect the skill of rear wheel drifting just as they used in US dirt track racing. Think he was also the first to put tape on the knee area of his leathers before knee sliders were introduced. All skilled riders though no question.

  • @fw1421
    @fw1421 4 роки тому +7

    Hmmmm,MV had winglets back in the 70’s? Very interesting!🤔🤔🤔

  • @jean-pierretoussaint8240
    @jean-pierretoussaint8240 8 років тому +6

    j'y était , la belle époque,mv avec des ailerons comme en 2016..

  • @studiocalder818
    @studiocalder818 Рік тому +2

    Well, in that period I was a kid and I supported Agostini and MV, so when Ago moved to Yamaha I had to decide who to stay with ..
    In the end I was with Phil and Gianfranco on the glorious old school MV 4 stroke, haha!

  • @geoffpaston9864
    @geoffpaston9864 7 місяців тому

    I was there with a friend on his photopress pass. I thought Eau Rouge was possibly the scariest section ever.

  • @Geletemol
    @Geletemol 2 роки тому +3

    Phil Read 1973-1974 MV ruless

  • @2fap752
    @2fap752 7 років тому +5

    old good time
    i remember it

  • @tommaguzzi1723
    @tommaguzzi1723 2 роки тому +3

    Winglets on Phil's bike.

  • @VM_Manu_Vale_ContentCreator
    @VM_Manu_Vale_ContentCreator 4 роки тому

    grazie per le.immagini

  • @xvdd1
    @xvdd1 7 років тому +6

    It must of seemed so wondrous at the time to be able to record moving pictures that nobody was concerned about the lack of sound.

    • @PDZ1122
      @PDZ1122 4 роки тому

      "...must have..."

    • @thatmanstu23
      @thatmanstu23 3 роки тому +1

      Definitely prefer the actual sounds to music

  • @Thouveninpascal
    @Thouveninpascal 5 років тому +3

    Musique de François de Roubaix :
    - "Les aventuriers" , 1967
    - "Dernier domicile connu" , 1970

  • @pedrovalerioprado
    @pedrovalerioprado 3 роки тому +1

    Bom dia! Bons tempos. Pilotos corajosos, muito corajosos.

  • @peterquirk9737
    @peterquirk9737 3 роки тому +8

    what a shame the real music of this historic event was obscured by something you can pick up anyday from a music shop

    • @AndreArtusi
      @AndreArtusi 2 роки тому +1

      The biggest part of the Super 8 cameras used at that age by the amateurs cameraman was unable to record also the sound. This is probably the reason they added a soundtrack

  • @rotax636nut5
    @rotax636nut5 6 років тому +17

    Something wrong with this video, there is a constant loud noise that's drowning out the beautiful music of the engines

  • @SteveInskip
    @SteveInskip 6 років тому +4

    Agostini proving that it wasn’t the bike, it was the rider! And that’s a reference to Jarno Saarinen, not Phil Read.

  • @topcat4759
    @topcat4759 2 роки тому +1

    My favourite track of all time closely followed by Monza. The days when the racing was all about the skill of the rider and just the best technology, no traction control or electronics to help out. Bikes fairly equal and even the MV four strokes could match the best two strokes from Japan. Tyre technology was also fairly equal and no need for control tyres. Certainly took some guts to be quick as safety concerns were not really a concern, until King Kenny came along a few years later anyway. Average lap speed still held at this track I think since 1977.

    • @studiocalder818
      @studiocalder818 Рік тому

      In that glorious period I was a kid and I supported Agostini and MV, so when Ago moved to Yamaha I had to decide who to support. In the end I was with Phil and Gianfranco on the glorious old school MV 4 stroke!

  • @chris0579
    @chris0579 4 роки тому +4

    superbe musique de François de Roubaix. dernier domicile connu. un film à revoir. fin d une époque comme en 500 le chant du cygne du 4 temps mv.augusta

    • @pasko59000
      @pasko59000 2 роки тому

      Et aussi « les aventuriers » en début de vidéo.. bien vu car de Roubaix était amateur ( entre autre) de sports mécaniques , et ses musiques superbes collent bien à cette époque …. Que les chanceux ont vécut .

  • @tebaldo1935
    @tebaldo1935 3 роки тому +1

    A che serve questa c. di musica?? Dove è il suono della mv quel rombo d' armonia???

  • @v.m.s.4499
    @v.m.s.4499 8 років тому +3

    very nice video !!

  • @JustinG1962
    @JustinG1962 4 роки тому +6

    Wonderfully evocative music of Francois de Roubaix.

  • @geordienufc3132
    @geordienufc3132 2 роки тому +1

    Such a shame the sounds of the bikes was edited out and canned music put in it's place.

  • @christopherstanford2883
    @christopherstanford2883 8 років тому +14

    I watched this despite the music.

  • @ewennicolson4342
    @ewennicolson4342 4 роки тому +4

    Ago wearing no 1 is odd. Read won the title in 73, so why is he No.2?

    • @gregwilson2400
      @gregwilson2400 2 роки тому

      Ago had no 1 as a personal thing. Ego. He had no 4 on his bike.

  • @massimobernardo-
    @massimobernardo- 2 роки тому +2

    1:52 MV Agusta with aerodynamic wings 1974

  • @jeancoppola6950
    @jeancoppola6950 5 років тому +4

    L age d or de la moto...la passion
    Le sport ...la vitesse..les odeurs !!
    Tout le meilleur...sans les restrictions des budgets d aujourd hui...meme les salons du 2 roues
    N ont plus rien a voir avec cette epoque.....gaz !!!!...lacaze !

    • @pabloperez4063
      @pabloperez4063 2 роки тому

      Today, restrictions are imposed, cos otherwise, the 280 hp bikes would fly

  • @colinvannurden3090
    @colinvannurden3090 2 роки тому

    Ohh...look, theres wings on the MV..

  • @calmkenny4175
    @calmkenny4175 2 роки тому

    Is it a coincidence that the music is just like Robbie William's Love Supreme, the video to which was the 1970 Belgian GP? If the music is from the era, I suppose royalties were paid to the original writers.

  • @triplebuses955
    @triplebuses955 5 років тому +2

    1974, le chant du cygne pour les MV, triste.

  • @jeancoppola6950
    @jeancoppola6950 4 роки тому

    Belle ballade musical....sur fond
    De merveilleux films...
    La moto s accorde tres bien aussi
    Une passion de l evasion !!

  • @nobbynick657
    @nobbynick657 6 років тому +4

    in the 70s you never see a race in television

  • @subbiejon6325
    @subbiejon6325 7 років тому +3

    read then sheene (30) Ago (3) and Franco Bonnera (56)

    • @DKT1970
      @DKT1970 6 років тому

      Subbie Jon is #4 Johnny Cecotto? 1:05

    • @DKT1970
      @DKT1970 6 років тому

      And who is #12?

    • @lorenzos.392
      @lorenzos.392 4 роки тому

      Dieter Braun

    • @lorenzos.392
      @lorenzos.392 4 роки тому

      nr. 4 is Agostini ; Cecotto started his GP career in 1975

  • @HeavyMetalGamer45
    @HeavyMetalGamer45 7 років тому +7

    those little wings they put on bikes today are not a new idea the bike and rider at 0.47

    • @yds250
      @yds250 6 років тому +4

      Phil Read - MV Augusta

    • @pabloperez4063
      @pabloperez4063 6 років тому

      VERY GOOD Eye! it is true....Italia again

  • @nascut1984
    @nascut1984 7 років тому +2

    2:32 Smoking in the paddock. XD

    • @keithdawson4804
      @keithdawson4804 6 років тому +1

      nascut1984
      Barry Sheene was known to smoke on the start line

    • @pabloperez4063
      @pabloperez4063 5 років тому

      And in ThE planes

  • @ericpetroff5857
    @ericpetroff5857 2 роки тому +1

    Scheen lap record more than 222km/h ...but Read win!

  • @alessandrogalli2207
    @alessandrogalli2207 5 років тому +1

    Per mhe se ricordo bene il nome Gianfranco boners. Boners bonersa ha fatto. Sempre da spalla ma era un grande pilota

    • @gerarddelgrande
      @gerarddelgrande 3 роки тому

      Si chiama Bonera, aveva finito terzo al GP di Francia 1974 (Charade), avevo 18 anni e ero spettatore !! Ciao da Francia ! 😄

  • @jefferyobryan6351
    @jefferyobryan6351 5 років тому

    Where's Kenny?

    • @TheMickvee
      @TheMickvee 4 роки тому +2

      He was flat track racing in the USA.

  • @patrickbailly1176
    @patrickbailly1176 Місяць тому

    Il y avait des ailerons avant 😢😢😢😢😢😢

  • @mfgt4595
    @mfgt4595 5 місяців тому

    No cornering on their sides back then, no tyre technology at all.
    Primitive suspension. Look at the difference between then and say 1984, a grand canyon in speed.

  • @laszlocarreidas9548
    @laszlocarreidas9548 7 місяців тому

    Paroni kyykytti kumpaakin :D

  • @pabloperez4063
    @pabloperez4063 5 років тому +1

    Víctor Palomo 5'50 !
    Spanish Pioneer

  • @skozskoz9752
    @skozskoz9752 2 роки тому

    Came here to watch epic time of motorbike Grand prix, just to find out that Robbie Williams stole François de Roubaix music for his song Supreme.
    Son of a ...

  • @ManuelMartinez-yr6db
    @ManuelMartinez-yr6db 2 роки тому +1

    Muy bonito pero cambiaria la musiquita tontuna por la slnfonia de los megafons de la MV y el sonido metalico de los tubarros la Yamaha

    • @jeanclaudevivier7126
      @jeanclaudevivier7126 Рік тому +1

      Bien dit !!

    • @ManuelMartinez-yr6db
      @ManuelMartinez-yr6db Рік тому

      @@jeanclaudevivier7126 Totalmente de acuerdo, me alegra 👍🏼 mucho ver que no estoy solo, para mi el sonido de un motor alto de vueltas,y con la cadencia de subir marchas o reducir es música celestial, 🎶 gracias por estar de acuerdo conmigo y que nuestra pasión no tenga fronteras, yo la mantengo a pesar de contar ya con sesentaiocho años y yendo en moto

  • @jeanclaudevivier7126
    @jeanclaudevivier7126 Рік тому

    Musique qui l'emporte sur le bruit des motos .. dommage

  • @MarcioNogaroto
    @MarcioNogaroto 6 років тому +1

    Only 15 times world Champion!!!!

  • @joelindien8945
    @joelindien8945 3 роки тому +1

    En "74" j'avais 17 ans....Et une SPR 50 !!.....Mais je prenais les virages comme eux !....

  • @joniesloot1121
    @joniesloot1121 6 років тому +2

    great movie but no sound shame

  • @stanleyedwards5282
    @stanleyedwards5282 4 роки тому +1

    🔥
    🏁🏁🏁interesting race🏎️🏎️🏎️
    1:54 🔥💘
    👇👇👇👇

  • @nitrogary8998
    @nitrogary8998 3 роки тому

    lots of 351cc yamahas

  • @henryseidel5469
    @henryseidel5469 Рік тому

    The noise of the music is getting on my nerves. How can such great historic sport events be accompanied by such a penetrating noise. Disgusting !

  • @etiennedard3860
    @etiennedard3860 5 років тому +1

    A nouveau la musique remplace le chant des motos. De 2 choses l'une: ou bien il n'y a pas de bande son, pourquoi ?, ou alors le "monteur" pense que c'est mieux avec de la musique !. Stupide, il s'agit bien de sport mécanique et pas d'un concert de musique

  • @DieterPanzer-zj7jl
    @DieterPanzer-zj7jl Рік тому

    Musik sind die Klänge der Motorräder und nicht das komische Gedudel, Schade um das schöne Video 👎

  • @giorgiobassi5727
    @giorgiobassi5727 4 роки тому

    Traduzione. Italia

  • @henriruiz1428
    @henriruiz1428 8 років тому +7

    c'est atroce une course de moto sans moteur un sal bruit de musique a la place de la mélodie des mégaphones c'est pas génial . quel gachis . plus envie de regarder les grand s prix comme ça . manque la grande musique des mégaphones . tout l'intérêt était là je pense que tous les connaisseurs vont être déçu de cette censure inadmissible . H.R

    • @gerarddelgrande
      @gerarddelgrande 7 років тому

      D'accord avec vous Henri !! J'avais vu la même année le Grand Prix de France à Charade où Phil Read, comme en Belgique, avait également gagné en 500cc et le titre à la fin de la saison ! De grands souvenirs ! Cordialement

    • @BIKE70
      @BIKE70 7 років тому +2

      Oui certainement, mais quand l'enregistrement a été effectué avec une caméra sans micro, ce qui était la majorité à l'époque , vous faites commun ??? Les images sont géniales, surtout de la part d'un amateur comme Aimé Léonard. Vos paroles sont extrémistes car il n'y a aucune censure, c'est juste que le film est comme ça ...

    • @Thouveninpascal
      @Thouveninpascal 6 років тому +1

      Oui , pas de bande son "live", enfin ça aurait pu être pire, comme un éternel rock'n roll ou hard rock , une seule solution, couper le son.

    • @Hector_Malot
      @Hector_Malot 5 років тому +2

      @Luis Alberto Pinto Sanchez C'est du Super 8, j'ai fait plusieurs bobines de film de GP à l'époque, les cartouches super 8 Kodak (15 m) duraient 3 minutes de projection, les caméras étaient muettes, les sonores sont sorties en 1974 mais elles coutaient cher et il fallait faire une post-synchro et avoir le projo adequat. Toute une époque et merci pour ce document.

    • @joelindien8945
      @joelindien8945 3 роки тому +1

      Ouais... Dommage pour le "son", je confirme.....Sans le "SON" ce sera fini des "spectateurs" !....Imaginez dans 30 ou 40 ans (ou avant), les mêmes courses avec des bécanes "électriques" !!..... Il faut du bruit et de la fumée, il faut des odeurs, il faut des belles nanas, il faut de la bière, il faut de l'ambiance !....Sinon, Il n'y aura même plus de "VIE" !......Hélas, c'est le monde qu'on nous promet !.....Elle va être "belle" la "vie" !....Pitin, j'ai bien fait de naitre avant toute cette M.r.e !......M'en fous, les "MV" étant trop chères, j'ai au moins eu la chance de piloter des "DUCAT" !.....J'adore les "Italiennes" !......Sont vraiment trop forts ces mecs !......

  • @BR-br3pv
    @BR-br3pv 5 років тому +2

    What the hell is that f***ing music

  • @carloscarponi965
    @carloscarponi965 7 років тому

    Traduzione

  • @tebaldo1935
    @tebaldo1935 3 роки тому

    Che senso ha quella stupida musica ? VOGLIAMO SENTIRE IL SUONO DEI MOTORI, MV primis, puoi ripostarlo ?

  • @fortuneram
    @fortuneram 2 роки тому +1

    Kill the soundtrack!

  • @emanuelericci5726
    @emanuelericci5726 5 років тому +3

    Video interessante
    Musica terribile

  • @briandennis6976
    @briandennis6976 2 роки тому

    This would been a great video without the awful background music.

  • @bentleylemans7576
    @bentleylemans7576 2 роки тому +1

    Stupid annoying music!

  • @eventcone
    @eventcone 7 років тому +5

    Crap music ruined what should have been a good movie.

    • @ewennicolson4342
      @ewennicolson4342 5 років тому

      They often did this with super 8, which had no sound recording facility. You dick.

  • @gregrsvr3947
    @gregrsvr3947 6 років тому +3

    Typical crap bike racing film, music over the sound of the bikes and a cameraman who never ventures more than 100yds from the paddock

    • @ewennicolson4342
      @ewennicolson4342 5 років тому +1

      It's Super 8. No sound on that. You teat bag!

  • @0ldrichkachynakachyna92
    @0ldrichkachynakachyna92 2 роки тому

    MV Agusrta