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Jaden McDaniels getting skipped along with Devin Vassel , IQ and Payton is criminal. Minnesota would be much much worse if we didn’t have our fantastic perimeter defender.
Not close???? Tyrese is leading the league in assists, averaging 20/11/4 and has a PER 4 points higher than ant. Stats don't lie buddy, also they have massive team diff.
Man you should do videos on why Defending Champs are unable to go back-to-back champs. The one you did with the Miami Heat was awesome and would be interesting to see the other recent teams too like Denver losing key components like Brown and Green or the Bubble Lakers losing their bigs or Kawhi leaving Toronto. An in-depth analysis of these would be good.
Always been a huge fan of Deni Avdija since before the draft. I'm glad that he has improved since his disappointing rookie season and excited to see him in RipCity.
As a Kings fan I’m still content with our roster but I sometimes wish we were able to keep Haliburton (and somehow trade Fox) instead of trading for Sabonis because I feel it’s somewhat harder to build a team with a center like him
GTFOH Hali is overrated if his teammates aren’t hitting shots and he’s struggling to score he’s a 0 on the court he’s arguably the worst defender in league Fox is better rn the only thing Hali does better is pass and shoot gimme fox anyday of the week
@@mikeysbusy My comment was *not* about Fox being a bad player-believe me, he’s a great player, but more about roster construction-it is EXTREMELY hard to find a capable frontcourt defender that can play next to Sabonis in a starting lineup that can not only protect the rim but also have some range beyond the arc (to prevent spacing issues).
@@jefferyepstein8348 y’all just letting Hali fool yall 💀 Y’all getting shown these highlights & not watching a real basketball game he’s overrated point blank period he’s not bad but ppl was saying the mf was in the “best pg in the east” category which he definitely shouldn’t be he’s a mid finisher has no mid range game he’s slow so he can get clamped easily as you seen sometimes in the playoffs. just like ant is overrated as well y’all let two playoff series hype yall up then he got exposed by the mavs…booker is still a better sg ant could get there but he isn’t yet
As a 76ers fan it still bewilders me that Tyrese Maxey, who was picked at 21, ended up being better than most of our many top draft picks throughout the 2010’s 😂
To me the biggest disappointments in that draft class are Wiseman, Patrick Williams and Killian hayes both 2nd, 4th and 7th picks in that draft respectively. Apart that Willams is staying on the team that drafted him wiseman changed already 2 teams same goes to Hayes. In Detroit Wiseman wasnt able to develop his shooting like in GS and now he is even becoming a benchwarmer on a winning team for a 2nd pick on the draft. Williams however he is a 3 and D kinda role player he averaged almost 10 points per game in his first 4 seasons with the team. Now signing williams to almost 20 million a year for a role player is a bad recipe for disaster we dont know if Patrick is gonna be this good after signing the contract. Hayes wasnt able to develop his shooting games and he was a turnover machine not only that he didnt develop his 3 point shot because he had all that time to develop everything detroit immediately gave up on him and waived him. Now hayes is with the nets on a minimum contract we dont know if he is gonna work out with the nets. Pistons could have drafted Tyrese Haliburton. The Golden State could have easily drafted Lamelo ball. The bulls could have also drafted Deni avdija instead of Williams. To me Willams Wiseman and hayes are potentially busts based on their scoring stats and their game.
Hayes is French. International players in general are underwhelming. Shoutout to Tony & Diaw but since them, every French prospect in the league has been terrible. Wemby is an anomaly.
Kings fan here. Nothing but love for Haliburton 💜 wish we could have kept him but at the same time, getting Sabonis is the only thing that got us to the playoffs.
As a Warriors fan, I can't blame them for taking Wiseman since the Center position was and still is a position of need for them, given all the other teams in the Western Conference have the size at the five to dominate the boards. However, the problem was two-fold Wiseman had to develop on the fly since he only played three games in college but the other problem is the Warriors were not the best team situation for developing what was a project player, if Wiseman had stayed in college a whole season and developed he could've been a better player.
and that dumbass NCAA decision that make him banned for the first year in college, heck even TJD had played more games in his career in NCAA than Wiseman 4 years in NBA, that lack of experience is crazy and because of pandemic, Wiseman had not played summer league those, his basketball career game until nw is less than TJD after TJD finish his rookie year, is enough unlucky
I still blame the Warriors for drafting Wiseman. The guy had so many red flags in him yet they decided to risk it all because they needed size. They got suze alright. A cone on defense and a liability on offense.
_James Wiseman and Trey Lance play completely different sports yet their stories feel extremely similar:_ 1. Both were top 3 draft picks 2. Both were selected by pro sports teams from the San Francisco Bay Area (Warriors and 49ers respectively) 3. Both were expected to eventually develop into future franchise cornerstones 4. Both were surrounded by elite coaching staffs 5. Both were surrounded by elite rosters 6. Both of the teams that drafted these players never skipped a beat after getting rid of them (well the 49ers never won a Super Bowl but that can be chalked up to other reasons)
Both players also did not play a lot in college, as wiseman only played three games and lance was a starter for only one season. They were picked on what they could become, not in what they were.
Wiseman felt like a BPA pick where the Warriors could’ve gone in various directions due to the situation presented with this draft. Lance was a bad pick overall when QB was further down the priority list for the 49ers (secondary, offensive line, even WR were higher priorities), but they fell into the hype trap of the QB class and it cost them (more so in future drafts as the 1st round picks they gave up could’ve been helpful). They did end up eventually finding their QB later on (Purdy).
One of the people AE credits for his professional growth is Ricky Rubio. In an interview Edwards said Rubio is one of the best teammates he ever played with and he taught him how to be a professional
Rubio taught Edwards the grind and how to keep a schedule on the road Pat Bev taught him to be that Dawg on defense Conley taught him court vision and leadership
I'll never forget when "analysts" were questioning Edwards' commitment to basketball when he said he isn't interested in watching other basketball games.
Everybody questioned if Ant fully committed to basketball and it was reasonable. Nobody questioned his talent. Now Ant showed that he's committed team can build around him and team did decent job doing that.
As a Warriors fan that James Wiseman pic wasn't bad in theory like nobody said nothing but it just didn't play out well he literally just came out of high school with no college games pretty much
The pandemic period was a hurdle though where a few of the draft picks have been going strongly but could have been better though through some of the respective players' abilities,good friends!!!👍🏾
It was the Covid year so it affected the draft and a summer league so picking a prospect and developing them off the bat well was non existent Definitely a mixed draft of stars and busts or role players but I’ll give it another year to clearly say that this draft was the worse but right now it’s a weak one
This was essentially a draft from the 70s, in the modern day. More throwing like darts at the board. Looking at "old" footage. A lot of unknown. No chance for a summer league, or summer prep with your team.
Guys like Devin Vassell, Immanuel Quickley, Payton Pritchard, and Jaden McDaniels all deserve to be mentioned. and i'm even disappointed by you andy seeing that you're a huge knicks fan
@Obinn77 1- Edwards most likely will be. Me saying was Maxey is just my opinion. 2- The 2020 squad prioritised OGs and vets over young guys because USA feared gettng embarassed after the last FIBA. Of course Maxey wasn't going to make the squad. That's why there were no other players around Edwards or Haliburton's ages besides those two
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I mean, who are these scouts who write these reports for Kilian and similar busts? Is there a trend amongst those scouts? Surely they sign those reports ...
i will never understand hali wanting to go to a failure of a franchise with a ball dominant pg already helming the offense, and a starting 2. what opportunity was he hoping for?
He believed in himself and most likely thought he single-handedly could turn the franchise's bad luck around. He achieved that, just not in Sacramento🤷♂️
@@ColdHoops how could he have logically believed that while knowing damn well hes getting 10-20 mins a game? cmon man there was no common sense behind the choice
Michael Jackson haf aura; Anthony Edwards needed oxygen during in a loss during a conference finals. Stop using the words aura and GOAT because we don't have words to define Michael Jackson or others who've achieved great heights.
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Guys like Devin Vassell, Immanuel Quickley, Payton Pritchard, and Jaden McDaniels all deserve to be mentioned.
agree
Exactly
devin vassell is the most underrated player in the nba
@@igiveup12 nah he isn't stop it
@@igiveup12please tell us what makes Devin Vassell underrated?
Jaden McDaniels getting skipped along with Devin Vassel , IQ and Payton is criminal. Minnesota would be much much worse if we didn’t have our fantastic perimeter defender.
The fact that you just straight up skipped over Devin Vassell like he didn't average 20 4 and 4 is highkey disrespectful
He’s a mid role player who stat pads on awful teams
Glizzy glazer
@@yodatscrazy981watch ur mouth clown
@@GhostWriter-Gohanshut up
Toppin is close to 20 points / 36 mins, but the Pacers just signed Siakam, so he has zero chance to became a starter in Indiana.
Okongwu deserves a shout-out he's a great starting caliber center
I said the same thing man, andy be tripping all the time
Everyone except the Hawks knows this
Who? Never heard of her.
“Great” is a little generous. He’s solid
who? 😂
Appreciate you Andy. I been watching since 2017-2018. I watch your videos on my lunch and free time. Your one of the few NBA UA-camrs I still watch.
Don't sleep on Devin Vassell
Who?
@@janoycresnova9156 casual fan.
@@janoycresnova9156you have no basketball knowledge
naw i’m napping good he’s just empty stats
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I mean, it's too early to judge this, but I feel like Ant-Man is the clear best player of this class. Hali is probably second unless LaMelo catch up.
Not close???? Tyrese is leading the league in assists, averaging 20/11/4 and has a PER 4 points higher than ant. Stats don't lie buddy, also they have massive team diff.
@@zhongtiger6575 Just edit it. My bad.
Melo and Hali are the same player if you think about it 😂 Melo just injured more often
Nah when are we gonna talk about how everyone was claiming this was a “weak” draft class huh? But ppl changed up 🤷🏽♂️
@@zhongtiger6575Tyrese is also one of the worst defenders in the league
Man you should do videos on why Defending Champs are unable to go back-to-back champs. The one you did with the Miami Heat was awesome and would be interesting to see the other recent teams too like Denver losing key components like Brown and Green or the Bubble Lakers losing their bigs or Kawhi leaving Toronto. An in-depth analysis of these would be good.
No Vassell ???? The disrespect as a spurs fan is insane Andy this a slap in the face
Always been a huge fan of Deni Avdija since before the draft.
I'm glad that he has improved since his disappointing rookie season and excited to see him in RipCity.
As a Kings fan I’m still content with our roster but I sometimes wish we were able to keep Haliburton (and somehow trade Fox) instead of trading for Sabonis because I feel it’s somewhat harder to build a team with a center like him
GTFOH Hali is overrated if his teammates aren’t hitting shots and he’s struggling to score he’s a 0 on the court he’s arguably the worst defender in league Fox is better rn the only thing Hali does better is pass and shoot gimme fox anyday of the week
@@mikeysbusyatrocious take
@@mikeysbusy My comment was *not* about Fox being a bad player-believe me, he’s a great player, but more about roster construction-it is EXTREMELY hard to find a capable frontcourt defender that can play next to Sabonis in a starting lineup that can not only protect the rim but also have some range beyond the arc (to prevent spacing issues).
If Sacramento future issues are only at the Halliburton -- Sabonis levels....
Your franchise becomes completely respected
@@jefferyepstein8348 y’all just letting Hali fool yall 💀
Y’all getting shown these highlights & not watching a real basketball game he’s overrated point blank period he’s not bad but ppl was saying the mf was in the “best pg in the east” category which he definitely shouldn’t be he’s a mid finisher has no mid range game he’s slow so he can get clamped easily as you seen sometimes in the playoffs.
just like ant is overrated as well y’all let two playoff series hype yall up then he got exposed by the mavs…booker is still a better sg ant could get there but he isn’t yet
As a 76ers fan it still bewilders me that Tyrese Maxey, who was picked at 21, ended up being better than most of our many top draft picks throughout the 2010’s 😂
Because he was supposed to be a lottery pick
He’s gonna regress this year brother yall did not need PG
He s easily the best player in 2020 draft easily better than ant
@@j.l.howlett6843if we were doing a redraft obviously maxey is #2 or #3 ,but still ant is #1
@@Whatcountryisthis260 up for a debate but I agree he would go 2nd option ate least if not 1st
i love kira lewis jr sm but it hurts me so bad that we drafted him instead of tyrese maxey both had very small frames but were lightning fast.
Edwards, Pritchard and Maxey are my favorites from this draft
5:52 that trumpet always makes me hyped
To me the biggest disappointments in that draft class are Wiseman, Patrick Williams and Killian hayes both 2nd, 4th and 7th picks in that draft respectively. Apart that Willams is staying on the team that drafted him wiseman changed already 2 teams same goes to Hayes. In Detroit Wiseman wasnt able to develop his shooting like in GS and now he is even becoming a benchwarmer on a winning team for a 2nd pick on the draft.
Williams however he is a 3 and D kinda role player he averaged almost 10 points per game in his first 4 seasons with the team. Now signing williams to almost 20 million a year for a role player is a bad recipe for disaster we dont know if Patrick is gonna be this good after signing the contract.
Hayes wasnt able to develop his shooting games and he was a turnover machine not only that he didnt develop his 3 point shot because he had all that time to develop everything detroit immediately gave up on him and waived him. Now hayes is with the nets on a minimum contract we dont know if he is gonna work out with the nets. Pistons could have drafted Tyrese Haliburton. The Golden State could have easily drafted Lamelo ball. The bulls could have also drafted Deni avdija instead of Williams. To me Willams Wiseman and hayes are potentially busts based on their scoring stats and their game.
Hayes is French. International players in general are underwhelming.
Shoutout to Tony & Diaw but since them, every French prospect in the league has been terrible.
Wemby is an anomaly.
Anthony Edwards is the clear winner of this draft. The uncertainty of this draft is something we hope never ever happens again.
Most of the players you mentioned feel like veterans already, that’s crazy 😂
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Kings fan here. Nothing but love for Haliburton 💜 wish we could have kept him but at the same time, getting Sabonis is the only thing that got us to the playoffs.
As a Warriors fan, I can't blame them for taking Wiseman since the Center position was and still is a position of need for them, given all the other teams in the Western Conference have the size at the five to dominate the boards.
However, the problem was two-fold Wiseman had to develop on the fly since he only played three games in college but the other problem is the Warriors were not the best team situation for developing what was a project player, if Wiseman had stayed in college a whole season and developed he could've been a better player.
And James being injured and missing so many games didn't help too.
and that dumbass NCAA decision that make him banned for the first year in college, heck even TJD had played more games in his career in NCAA than Wiseman 4 years in NBA, that lack of experience is crazy
and because of pandemic, Wiseman had not played summer league those, his basketball career game until nw is less than TJD after TJD finish his rookie year, is enough unlucky
I still blame the Warriors for drafting Wiseman. The guy had so many red flags in him yet they decided to risk it all because they needed size.
They got suze alright. A cone on defense and a liability on offense.
@@08mayleen Can't Argue with that. When you are so awful that the Detroit Pistons don't want you. That is truly when you know he's an awful player.
He played 2 games in college, then was suspended for the year.
That was a foolish and wasted drafted pick.
_James Wiseman and Trey Lance play completely different sports yet their stories feel extremely similar:_
1. Both were top 3 draft picks
2. Both were selected by pro sports teams from the San Francisco Bay Area (Warriors and 49ers respectively)
3. Both were expected to eventually develop into future franchise cornerstones
4. Both were surrounded by elite coaching staffs
5. Both were surrounded by elite rosters
6. Both of the teams that drafted these players never skipped a beat after getting rid of them (well the 49ers never won a Super Bowl but that can be chalked up to other reasons)
James Wiseman won with the Warriors
Both players also did not play a lot in college, as wiseman only played three games and lance was a starter for only one season. They were picked on what they could become, not in what they were.
Wiseman felt like a BPA pick where the Warriors could’ve gone in various directions due to the situation presented with this draft.
Lance was a bad pick overall when QB was further down the priority list for the 49ers (secondary, offensive line, even WR were higher priorities), but they fell into the hype trap of the QB class and it cost them (more so in future drafts as the 1st round picks they gave up could’ve been helpful). They did end up eventually finding their QB later on (Purdy).
One of the people AE credits for his professional growth is Ricky Rubio. In an interview Edwards said Rubio is one of the best teammates he ever played with and he taught him how to be a professional
Feel like a lot of young guards get better after being with Rubio for a year or two
@@alexescutia4805 Mitchell, D-Book, AE, Garland
RUBIO IS A TWOLVES LEGEND
Rubio taught Edwards the grind and how to keep a schedule on the road
Pat Bev taught him to be that Dawg on defense
Conley taught him court vision and leadership
@@richborn6700 most defs, PatBev changed edwards mindset on D for sure.
Deni needs to be on a better team.
I'll never forget when "analysts" were questioning Edwards' commitment to basketball when he said he isn't interested in watching other basketball games.
Everybody questioned if Ant fully committed to basketball and it was reasonable. Nobody questioned his talent. Now Ant showed that he's committed team can build around him and team did decent job doing that.
Forcing your way to Sacramento just for them to trade you is insane
As a Warriors fan that James Wiseman pic wasn't bad in theory like nobody said nothing but it just didn't play out well he literally just came out of high school with no college games pretty much
Kwame Brown basically
Andy, you should do videos on the Sixers offseason, the Lakers and kobe for 2 years after Shaq, 70s nba
Anthony Edward next MJ 💯
Lmfao 😂😂
On the flip side, with some many bad or mediocre players, who are the guys that never go a chance to play in the NBA.
As a Nashville native I prayed Wiseman stayed another year he could’ve bounced back & went #1 in 2021
What is it with rookies demanding where they want to go before playing in the nba?
It's not a big deal.
NBA 'Life' will humble them regardless
I really wonder why Haliburton was so infatuated with Sacramento 😂 bro is from Winconsin btw, so was it just storyline trick from his agent ?
The pandemic period was a hurdle though where a few of the draft picks have been going strongly but could have been better though through some of the respective players' abilities,good friends!!!👍🏾
Andy def a virgin 😂
The Pritchard glaze is crazy
Make a video about the 2021 draft class
It was the Covid year so it affected the draft and a summer league so picking a prospect and developing them off the bat well was non existent
Definitely a mixed draft of stars and busts or role players but I’ll give it another year to clearly say that this draft was the worse but right now it’s a weak one
Kira Lewis Jr def would’ve been elite if it wasn’t for nagging injuries
Obi Toppin probably deserved a shoutout
Hindsight is, humorously, 2020.
Actually Killian Hayes got signed by the nets so hes not out of the league yet
That’s practically the same lmao
As a Bulls fan, Patrick Williams is one of the most underwhelming draft picks in franchise history. I wasn’t excited about that pick from day one.
How the hell you didn't mention Devin Vassell
!!! The average 20 points a game last year 😂
This draft was SOOOOOO SICK!!!
This was essentially a draft from the 70s, in the modern day.
More throwing like darts at the board. Looking at "old" footage.
A lot of unknown.
No chance for a summer league, or summer prep with your team.
Basically Ant Man's the best player out of his class. Wiseman still has ton of upside over LaMelo tbh.
That last sentence is Blasphemous
Guys like Devin Vassell, Immanuel Quickley, Payton Pritchard, and Jaden McDaniels all deserve to be mentioned.
and i'm even disappointed by you andy seeing that you're a huge knicks fan
You kinda snubbed alot of decent roleplayers making this video.
still waiting for you to make a content about 2018 draft class
james wiseman for the win
14:53 This picture is definitely photoshopped 😂😂
Always wondered if the 2020 draft would have occurred if the pandemic got out of control and gotten worse
The Anthony Edwards vs LaMelo Ball debate is far from over
If lamelo been healthy he be better
Lamelo isn’t even the second best player 😂
@@gorillacookies3171 thanks for the input gorilla cookies
I think it's over by now
@@michaeltorresii5248 I think the Ball brothers aren’t built for the NBA
What if Covid never happened? Would it made a difference?
Duh of course. More footage for teams to review and reassess talent
I thought you were going to mention Pritchard
Lamelo Is an amazing player but Edwards is just on another level
Devin Vassell future All Star mark my word
Always found it funny people say mediocre when someone averages 18-22 and shoots 40% like dude that's literally Fred vanvleet?
You not even mentioning Devin Vassell or Jaden McDaniels makes me feel some type of way😐
Ah yes, the draft where 4 lottery picks ended up being contributors the last seasons pacers team (including Hali)
Tell me you've never watched Onyeka play without telling me you haven't watched him play
killian hayes is literally on the nets
What’s wrong with a few of the top 10 being role players? Not everyone needs to be a star, and those guys from 4-6 are all improving
And obi toppin
When everybody retires, Maxey *will be* the best player from this draft class😤
No you're wrong, Anthony Edwards will be. Maxey didn't even make the Olympic squad.
@Obinn77 1- Edwards most likely will be. Me saying was Maxey is just my opinion.
2- The 2020 squad prioritised OGs and vets over young guys because USA feared gettng embarassed after the last FIBA. Of course Maxey wasn't going to make the squad. That's why there were no other players around Edwards or Haliburton's ages besides those two
James Wiseman is the epitome of this pandemic draft. Truly pandemic in every sense of the word.
Plandemic by Fauci
No Devin Vassell?
Hi Andy
I will always say this, GSW should have picked Haliburton
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I mean, who are these scouts who write these reports for Kilian and similar busts? Is there a trend amongst those scouts? Surely they sign those reports ...
Hello, Do you even recognized Payton Pritchard, Jaden McDaniels, Immanuel Quickly, and Devin Vassell?
i will never understand hali wanting to go to a failure of a franchise with a ball dominant pg already helming the offense, and a starting 2. what opportunity was he hoping for?
He believed in himself and most likely thought he single-handedly could turn the franchise's bad luck around.
He achieved that, just not in Sacramento🤷♂️
@@ColdHoops how could he have logically believed that while knowing damn well hes getting 10-20 mins a game? cmon man there was no common sense behind the choice
How do you skip over IQ and Vassell?
Killian Hayes cant even make it in the French team in the olympics
Quickly
Most of the players in this class are either stars or busts, very few average players
Did not mention DEVIN VASSELL? He'll be better than Desmond Bane bro
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So Hali's agent only told two teams not to draft him, the hawks and Cavs, bc they had Trae and Garland. Ur literally just spreading misinformation
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why do you use all these different background songs? just use the one in 6:00
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wiseman just fell off the face of the earth
Michael Jackson haf aura; Anthony Edwards needed oxygen during in a loss during a conference finals. Stop using the words aura and GOAT because we don't have words to define Michael Jackson or others who've achieved great heights.
The weakest will be these 2024 class with browny gems being only the spotlight.
Wiseman Traaaaaaaaaaaaaash
Got stop calling people geniuses bro it’s makes the word almost useless
morey aint no legend how many chips does he have
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Golden state should have drafted lamelo instead of James.
LaVar Ball is to blame. He ruined his kids with those damn God awful shoes and outlandish statements smh 🤦
Don’t think lamelo ever wore those shoes in games
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