Is this the most toxic community on Twitch?
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Sardaco thinks Staysafe is "based" yikes
does sard even know about what is said in this video? Staysafe seems unhinged ngl
@davidbiernatowski9375 The information is prominent enough at this point that there's no way Sardaco hasn't heard about it, especially if he's close at all with Ziqo
@@jhngamingetc I understand, thank you! This is very strange to me. Racist thought and culture being prominent even today makes me feel that there is a big structural problem, how sad :(
@@jhngamingetc For whatever it's worth, I had never heard of any of this until I saw the Sardaco clip yesterday. I've watched Ziqo for years (not daily, obviously) and had never caught this.
he obviously had no idea about any of that
I find it odd that Esfand always seems to be surrounded by the worst people yet he always come out of these situations unscathed
I was fairly skeptical once you referred to Staysafe as a nazi, since the term gets thrown around so loosely these days that it has almost become meaningless and cliche, but surprisingly, this actually seems like one of the rare instances where it's accurate. So good job and respect to you for being honest with how you speak.
How is it accurate? Is it wrong for Japanese people to want to maintain their identity? Why is it only wrong if white people want to do it?
@@sixpackchad Did you even watch the video at all with him being explicitly racist or are you just that blind? Folic acid fugitive holyyyy 🤣🤣
@ailuro2291 you sound upset, my little man
@@jrbaconcheez nope, just funny how someone can be so blind enough to believe their own lies
@@ailuro2291 one of the main problems with the world.
I remember during Cata Classic launch, I pulled up StaySafe's stream out of boredom, and he was talking about his book and the fact that he can't actually discuss its ideas while being live because certain people would get offended/cancel him and suggested everyone go do research about Hyperborea then I left the stream immediately. Dude's a freak.
Why are people using asmongold as some kind of arbiter lol
yeah its weird
@@homeig-2234 because they use his clout to try and give some credibility to their false claims, because twitch kids will believe anything asmongold says is true. It's a way to circumvent his lack of evidence by saying "this guy that you all know and love is saying its false so it must be false. Dont believe me, believe your internet dad instead"
Yes, it's super cringe
Because he represents the way a lot of people feel about something. That's why he has so many viewers watch and maintains relevancy
Asmongold is Rome
He has more authority than most of us when it comes to determining view bots using graphs because he has seen a ton from his career
Ziqo is the guy who secretly farmed shadow gear to beat snutz in the makgora tourney… you don’t want to go up against this force irl…. He’s rank 1 irl
And then got rolled in the duel
@@benjaminghazi787 Because of a bug tho. The shadow res gear does not work in classic for some reason.
I like Ziqo but No he's rank 1 in WoW pvp. That does not transfer to real life.
@@Givanpes it’s more about you are dealing with someone who is so pragmatic in his approach to things. That type of tenacity and drive certainly overflows into everything you do.
@@darren1107 Vurtne was still better than him 18+ years ago
You know, he's starting to sound more and more like Nick Fuentes.
How nice is Payo when you think about it. He called it back in 2018. Payo the rogue that drowns people and camps raids has been honest this whole time. Great job on the vid Ziqo
this for real.
You mean the one that ninjas and complains about everything? Yeah, wild.
@@-Tecky- No, I mean the one that sets up comedy bits and plans ahead for his content. When has Payo ninja'ed? The fact that you fall for his bits is even more telling...Wild. What are you watching?
@@-Tecky-found the staysafe meatrider
Hey Ziqo,
Wanted to say thanks for shedding light on this,
I was an on and off viewer of him - got introduced through the classic cast podcasts by Esfand and Tips.
Gotta admit i wasnt in the loop when it came to "Drama" Stuff but looking back at it now i cant believe i had such a massive blindspot
many innocent things seem incredibly sketchy to me now, His classic Guildname (Power), if you short his nick its SS, The whole "Gamerwords" thing and so many little comments and or Memes
shocking stuff cant believe i didnt see it myself - so i wanted to say that its great stuff you stuck by your guns even through the toxic stuff im sure you had to endure during all this
keep it up Man
Imagine calling a man with german family a nazi because of proven fake screenshots and the name of his video game character and thinking you're a good person. You do know you're a really bad person, right?
@@Oh_its_Mikedid you not watch the video? The chat logs do not seem fake.
@@Jesse3beards "seem" tells me you base everything on feelings and dont care that the guy who made them literally admitted they're fake on stream with VOD evidence. Feelings justifying your beliefs is a very common thing with people like you and Ziqo.
@@Oh_its_Mike Has it occurred to you that I haven't seen that clip? You're twisting yourself into a pretzel to fight the "feels over reals" argument, because that's all you know. Sad. No, saying something seems a certain way is not an appeal to ones feelings. Do you even hear yourself? You take a single word, and extrapolate from that my entire character. How is that for "feelings". Embarrassing.
If instead of throwing a tantrum, you show me to where I can hear the author of the imgur thread say it's all fake, that'd be great.
@@Jesse3beards Not reading all that. I have zero respect for people like you or Ziqo.
Man, I actually used to like Staysafe's content and streams back during build-up towards classic hype and a while during it being live. When things were 90%+ about the game. But he's been going all-in on this semi-alt right/edgy persona (that works online, let's be honest. A proven blueprint) grinding drama and clashing with people like Ziqo who I don't just like for his WoW content (Ronaldinho of WoW innit), but most importantly who I know is a genuine person with integrity. It puts me off HARD. It's sad, but reality.
EDIT: watched the whole video. Yeah this guy has had these horrible views for a while. Damn.
He learned from punkrat lol aka the liberal hivemind. So much money to be had farming the right.
Ziqo's Coffeezilla arc is crazy
Unicorn Riot is legit. They come from Minneapolis, and blew up after their fantastic coverage of the George Floyd aftermath. I didn't know they did this work as well. Very interesting.
I watched Staysafe's video and found it to be pretty convincing, but I also like Ziqo so I figured its only fair to hear him out. I'm definitely glad I did. The results from the Discord search is pretty wild. Man Staysafe has some bizarre opinions. Thank you for making this video
How about going on the real discord server and not the clone puppet ziqo made?
Doesen't matter you're a bot anyway so nobody really cares and bro got unbanned from twitch 30 minutes after posting his video.
@@norwegiansmores811 Yeah two separate individuals both make a clone discord just to slander goldenboy Staysafe you clown
Using fake screenshots, that Alex admitted to faking years go isn't a win. And if that is what convinced you he's "guilty" of something, seek professional help.
@@heathen8379 damn ur really defending a nazi?
@@knatten_rl6886 you don't see the valknut in his profile pic? god all these edgelords larping as vikings are so transparent and unoriginal, it's crazy
Thanks for fighting the good fight. We need more like you.
me being here not playing wow anymore and not knowing either creator 👁👄👁
😂😂
I dont play wow either but enjoying watching the content creators every now and then (not staysafe tho)
Client : I’ll have a steak please
Waiter : how would you like it cooked ?
Client : staysafe
All these dudes born in 1988 working overtime in the comments to defend their kommandant. The cope is real.
Even tho he's a mask off fascist, we can at least appreciate that Staysafe keeps the baseball hat on. His hairline is a war crime in of itself.
Nah dude dont make it an age thing. I checked out his stream after the shooting at the Trump rally and he was in discord with maybe 5 people and 2 of them were without a doubt really young guys. Sad stuff
Lol what? what does age have to do with it?
@@Guydudeman-f2z it's sarcasm.. As in, we know they're not born in 1988. Look up what 88 means.
@@Guydudeman-f2z @hitnrunner303 flew over your heads
@@Guydudeman-f2z lmao your age is no excuse. Grow up
It's crazy that I gamed from 12 to 28 b a c k i n t h e d a y and the biggest drama was just crashing a fake funeral on illidan
lol, this is what happens when those same adults don't stop playing video games for the proceeding 15-20 years. They turn into character assassins, trying to claw at each other and argue about politics
@@ICee712 This is what a majority of people do, regardless of whether or not they play video games. Have you seen a single political speech in the past 6 years?
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth." Amen Ziqo. But as you said, the truth will prevail.
I do have concerns about the left being to trigger-happy with their accusations, but damn, this is some pretty bullet proof evidence. Genuinely disgusted by this dude
Staysafe has completely lost it. Hes trying to change the narrative so hard. Blocking him everywhere
Staysafe is the type of guy to rock the hilter stash because "he just likes the way it looks."
That’s why you wear the Hitler stash on the hair people can’t see
"Oh this is just a Charlie Chaplin moustache"
Staysafe is just like a lot of classic wow players tbh. Half the community are nice and/or helpful the other half are neets/edgelords/rude trash weirdos
@@okiv99 this is pretty spot on tbh
clip or didnt happen
Writing a book on Hyperborea is some next level klansman shit lmfao
Nah, you see, he's just interested in this particular obscure piece of Greek mythology.
dude turned into a "IRL Warlock"
XD
Lmao don’t give locks a bad name
not even a warlock would be a nazi.
So… Alex was right? Again?!
Alejandro sensualez was always right
Always was
Didn't he fail at killing a 17 hunter as a lvl 23 druid?
@@BudMasta Alex never died in wow??
AWR
I knew Staysafe is a shady individual when he said his wife received death threats from Payo's followers and his chat totally believed him.
His go-to apparently
I got ban to say her wife should see those discord logs , that she might not like that much! If this is death threats lol i dont know
He didn't seem to worried about his wife getting threats when he was smirking about the "fake" discord that he claims causes most of the problems in the first place.
I mean if you've been on the internet for longer than 4 years and haven't received a death threat have you really even been using the internet?
I love it when people try to use rhetoric to disguise their lack of self-esteem
Thanks for making this video. I believe the masses truly are unaware of this and it's good you've brought it to light.
I'm conservative Polish guy but also your huge fan. I get it some people post stupid racist memes for fun (weird I get it but some people laugh of it) but this is not the case. All examples you've shown looked like he truely belives what he posted on discord. These things were not memes or jokes but really sounded racist. It's truely some form of white supremacy. My nation suffered from nazis so much that by seeing this I felt really unconfortable.
They hate you and your country for existing, I don't mean the "racists".
It sucks watching the Nazis in your country make world news because how bold theyre becoming.
'Conservative Polish' is farrrr left in the US my little man
@@jrbaconcheezno it’s not lol.
@jrbaconcheez doubt it because Polish conservatives support Donald Trump my little man
Staysafe entered 2800 mmr lob while having 1.3 cr
this made me laugh out loud haha
Facts don’t fuck with ziqo
What does the arenas index have to do with a topic like this?
@@zomgdeadinside What does the sand index have to do with a topic like this?
He was the dog of the lob. LMAOOOO.
The saddest and most embarrasing thing about these losers is that their WHOLE m.o. is their pride and self sustaining nature. And yet they hide, lie, and even disown their own peers when faced with the loss of support from the very people they hate
thank you for your thorough investigation
you just earned some respect. Fuck staysafe.
Enjoy it up the bum don't ya?
Stayfake should just go back to viewbotting and stop causing all this drama... It's always the same with him
You mean, it's always the same with people bringing up drama against StaySafe?
@@mike-2342 zip it up when you done gurgling
understand your point but its not staysafe starting drama lol. Payo started viewbot drama, Ziqo started this brigade
Am I the only one getting this vibe, Staysafe enjoys getting his ego stroked with all this drama? First it was about him and Payo. I spent time in both their Twitch channels and Staysafe be going on and on about Payo...jumped in Payo's channel and he's simply playing a game. I'm sorry to see this drama now involves Ziqo. Thanks for sharing Ziqo.
To have beef with people like payo and ziqo in the first place you gotta be a special type of weirdo
that's how these racist people always do business. They breed toxicity attracting toxic people.
yeah staysafe was talking about it like over a month after it happened. Payo didnt even care lol.
Pretty damning. Nice work, Ziqo.
HAHAHAHAH This is absurd, I know it's pretty serious, but can't help but laugh 😂 Nothing new that he is pretty goofy, but I didn't see this coming 😂
finally that racist taking some heat. man's been going at it since private server days.
@@JesusSavesTheLostBrokenConfuse Bro didn't even watch the video lol, the most problematic shit was the shit the dude posted in the nazi discord server. "I just do this nazi joke though out my entire life, im not a nazi it's just part of everything i do" lmfao okay.
@@BlinksTehShit brother he doesn’t require investigative work - go watch one of his streams and pay attention to chat - its full of Holocaust denials, emotes based on jews, etc
Here to show support and counter the hate. Left his community a year or so ago when this shit started becoming obvious.
You mean fake hate that ziqo made up? lmao 😂
@@cash3450 Get help
Well done dude, your $2 has truly countered the hate. The hate has been vanquished!
Great job Ziqo! Honestly very proud of the effort you've put in to combat these kind of nastiness on social media!
clown
He doesnt even bother deleting the evidence anymore because he knows all that shit will haunt him forever lol. Sucks to suck
Loool unlucky staygay
How does he not understand the internet is forever... and everything can be traced.. even incognito mode!
Well done. Much respect.
Staysafe going after the guy who takes the meaning of sweat to a whole new level. Who takes emotes personally in pvp. Is he out of his mind?
Loool the sweat bro, what a idiot indeed
He is crazy in his mind for sure!
No such thing as a sane nazi
Checkmate!
The guy is trying so hard to looks like alpha male revolutionist, meanwhile he is 1:1 the kid that got abducted in season 1 of Strange Things.
Projection isn't the way
@@mike-2342 Tell that to Staycringe
@@mike-2342go back to your racist community lmao
Ziqo, mad respect dude. I don’t really want to elaborate, just mad respect. ❤
Poor staysafe he messed with the wrong one and got exposed hard u can't hide on the internet man no matter how well you can speak and present yourself
Wow.. I knew I didn’t like stay safe but I don’t know it was this bad
Damn, I actually used to like Staysafe... stop watching him for like a year and all this happens. Good to know the truth, at least. He has gone full blown MAGA roach on his UA-cam channel lmao.
I would also key word the phrase "we wuz." Common dogwhistle.
My mans has the bachelor pad to the max. Completely empty with not a single item in sight haha
Alexensual never said he faked any pics, I was there back in the day and it was known staysafe’s discord was exactly what was described
All you have to do is watch staysafes stream for 10 minutes and you'll get bombarded with dog whistles hidden by being "ironic". It's watered down 4chan pol humor, and its so obvious what his actual beliefs are. You can be right wing/conservative all you want, but he crosses a line into a dark place imo
Inspector Ziqo cleaning up
Finally someone calls this guy out.
I think the politics part of staysafe and the way he acts in/outside of his community inform each other. He allows Nazi/racist rhetoric to take place in his community & parrots the same while going out of his way to politically direct hatred towards groups he has nothing to do with.
Just a harmful human being who clearly has some level of insecurity he needs to figure out for himself.
you offical deleted this guy
Negative. Maybe deleted him for Ziqo fans, which isn't saying much. After watching both sides of the argument, Staysafe's seems more genuine. Ziqo was on the hunt to get staysafe canceled. To the point where he eagerly watched and waited for the news, having a tab up to check on it, and then cackled like a maniac. I can tell that Ziqo probably tuned into one of Staysafe's streams and didn't like what he heard so he set out on a pathetic mission to cancel him.
In what world does allowing nazis to proliferate their hateful ideology in your discord for years not invalidate a streamer? Even if he is just allowing it to be an 'edgy gamer', that is deeply irresponsible and wrong.
@@VTM9126 This is the most incoherent babble i've ever heard anyone spew out onto a keyboard. What did you think you were cooking there?
@@samnsamole9448 incoherent? Are you some kind of simpleton who cannot read? Oh wait, I'm talking to a guy who uses overused lame ass phrases like "cooking". You obviously have a tik-tok brain, and probably never think for yourself, so I guess I shouldn't expect you to be able to read.
@@samnsamole9448 are you a simpleton? Oh, wait, you're obviously a Ziqo fan, which means you most likely are.
hopefully staysafe gets perma banned
lmfao this is gold. detective Ziqo is on his shit!!!!!
why would anyone beef with ziqo? he is the most chill dude on twitch.
chill dudes dont cry because of peoples political views. far left is welcome and promoted on twitch but apparently you are not allowed to have right leaning views.
I mean it was Ziqo who started it on twitter/X
@@dueranasimp4ever right leaning ? we're talking n4zi welcoming discord host here
@@dueranasimp4ever Theres a bit of a fucking difference in leaning right and being openly racist and nazi :D
@@dueranasimp4ever chill dudes dont cry about hate speech*, that's what you should've said my man.
Pretty compelling rebuttal.
Well played, sir.
Alex was right
Not sure how staysafe still thinks he can claim the discord stuff is faked
Ziqo.. you´re a legend, love you man! May Ilai bless you!
Whats with unhinged people playing Female gnomes? It's always them
Keep Pint out of it U.U
I wonder why there is so much of this shit in World of Warcraft, especially noticed it during the classic and era servers.
@@hackintosh3899 Yes and when Joshpriest got exposed they all left. You're acting like everyone knew. I hate to break it to you, but rapist don't normally, ya know, broadcast it, they get found out.
@@bigw4438 it’s rampant in the classic community. They think they aren’t racist because they don’t deal with ANY of this shit irl. They are in their safe bubbles and think it’s ok to say racist shit.
Notice that all the shit in WoW classic, is all because of the same 20 streamers.
Because a lot of social outcasts with low IQ easily gets fueled with emotions of hatred making it easier to sway them towards bigotry.
@@capitatv What does this mean? Both "think they aren't racist" and "don't have to deal with any of this shit irl?"
i dont get it, why do people still test ziqo? No1 outsweats ziqo Irl or ingame lol
I was always questioning why he had so many viewers on twitch when It's difficult for me to find any entertainment watching him
Very similar, the only time his name pops up seems to be drama and at best questionable hot takes. Honestly kind of nice to see that openly lambastic and toxic individuals get shut out over time... and during a time when it seems so many all over the place benefit from it; if only temporarily.
not looking good for old staysafe
Knowledge is key, found out I'm an agnostic theist
Bruh, why he does pronounce your name wrong? Every classic Andy knows who you are from the HC tourny.
When I saw his little drama video, I was thinking to myself "Ziqo?! No way, how could he do this" figures.
Its the trump tactic. Purposefully mispronounce your opponents name to subtly dismiss them as a person.
hes acting dum
Yeah and ziqo of all people, he's like the chillest wow streamer
He’s copying Trump’s racist attacks. Staysafe pronounces Kamala’s name wrong on purpose
It's in the conservative for dummies textbook. Always pronounce people's names incorrectly. These dorks are so unoriginal, they just copy the last obnoxious 'based' dork, rinse repeat.
so weird there's so much Drama before and after Twitchcon
Never trust a warlock
Never trust a female gnome
this is 100% wow nerd, empty kitchen 🤣 but i guess this is how you get to be the best pvper
Jesus man as someone who didnt know much about either of you coming into this on this level this is crazy
StaySafe seems like he is giving into some sort of pressure to bandwagon, maybe in hopes of more exposure as a media personality.
As someone who is on the outside, it appears he is tryharding, in whatever way he can, to live his 'I wish I was Asmon' dream.
Meanwhile, guy is canceling himself and can't see the longterm damage this will do to his livelihood. He may want to start learning a trade because his stream career is sunsetting.
Looks like he went full R tard but it's working
This shit is better than the Kdot and Drake beef, ya’ll should go bar for bar.
Ziqo thanks for doing this. Mad respect, it's appreciated by many. Long story inc:
A couple months ago I was watching staysafe. He interacts with chat quite a bit. He was talking about immigrants in America and was obviously frustrated, and said he thinks the US should just round them all up and deport them all. I thought this was odd since maybe a couple days before he was just talking about the realistic dilemma, really the logistics, of organizing such a thing and would never happen. Anyway, I said in chat, that doing this, rounding a bunch of people by race, assuming they committed a crime, whether you wanna argue people entering the country illegally is a crime or not, holding them and prosecuting them without a trial, isnt that borderline nazism? The dude read my comment out loud and looked at the camera, and just did a big Ole raspberry. I was shocked, like couldn't even address it? Was I crazy? I'll never forget that moment tbh. But, I had no idea he had so many allegations to ties to neo nazis in the past, and current. Now it all makes more sense. Maybe he thought I was attacking him I guess, but either way, all of the evidence you've shown really kinda closes the door on the whole thing for me. Fuck em.
Love is stronger than hate. Thank you Ziqo.
-Coordd
Who has said round anyone up by color? No.
It would be like before I imagine. Mind you, I worked at a bail bond company a few years ago.
If an illegal committed a crime, ICE would get called and they would get deported out sometimes. So most likely, that would be implemented again.
I have never heard anyone say round up people by their color.
@@KiRa-fy6uq yeah he probably never said specifically by race. I spoke poorly there. But what he was suggesting isn't far off. Think about it, at the scale they're suggesting the problem is, there are bound to be errors. You cannot do something like this at this scale without dehumanizing a large group of people. And it's a really Slippery slope. But above all, if you accuse someone of a crime, in this country, you have a right to a fair trial. Legal citizen or not they are still people, you cannot treat them like cattle.
''entering the country illegally is a crime or not'' hmm I wonder, if only there was a clue.
wow. dude really said someone mocked his whole server and made him look bad LMAO.
To be fair, alexsensual would do that loool
This is insane! I'm just a spectator in all this waiting for a response. LMAO
Ziqo.. you´re a legend, may Ilai bless you!
Why are the people who have the most shit going on always the loudest?
hes so tilted cuase your exposing his shit haha
Well put together video
when he pulled up the discord messages OHHHHH MYYYYYY
Thank you for posting this. I noticed some dog whistling during a stream of his once, and not been back since.
You’re a schizophrenic imagining “dog whistles” everywhere please seek help.
@@justinmccray5014 You fascists are so boring. If you had any personality at all you would find a more useful pastime than feeling superior to people that are different.
the racist messages which StaySafe claims are fake came from his current discord user-ID and he's writing a book about Hyperborea. there you go. thanks ziqo
i watched StaySafeTV a lot, liked the guy a lot but unfortunately this is undeniable
What is hyperborea?
@@zedakh asgard for nazis
Hyperborea doesn’t mean anything lmao
@@crazyviper chu mean its another cringe nazi dogwhistle lmao
nobody know who the hell is staysafe before classic launched in 2019 , and from 1st day i knew he is a joke
remember when he streamed with the usa flag behind him HAHAHAHA
I was previously a staysafe watcher just for the hc wow content so this is wild to see. Thank you for bringing this to light and calling out someone that obviously has some very insane beliefs
34:00 I gotta say especially in LoL community using the word "subhuman" to insult other teammembers has become very viral in the last 5 years, without twitch or LoL doing anything against it. Just LoL changed their policies a bit concerning what streamers are allowed to say.
goes kinda unnoticed that denying people their humanity was part of a tactic, a special austrich leader in Germany used. I wouldnt say any of those streamers are nazi or right winged, just toxic without any awareness of what words they use and what impact these might have.
in case of a dude naming himself ubermensch, posting racist shit in a racist discord Id say case closed, the dudes an idiot
I don't know how you can have drama with Ziqo unless you are a truly awful person. Ziqo is one of the most chill people on this planet.
Ziqo is no saint.. Listen to how he even talks to people he play with when its not going his way.. They´re both drama queens acting out
He have drama with Ziqew or something... :D
hes obviously not chill if he is crying about staysafe
It really depends how long youve been following Ziqo. You should understand that Ziqo has been around since the dawn of twitch (maybe even Justintv I cant quite remember). It feels like yesterday I was watching him smoke up on stream with that big afro spam queueing 1v2 arena back in MoP 2013
@@dueranasimp4ever so you are chill with Nazis
what is with staysafe's voice? like its forcing to be deeper? wtf
I love how you can always stand on business when it comes to this stuff. All goofyness and jokes aside I feel like you genuinely always do your best to be respectful towards others. You're a role model to the younger guys in your community and there's no other streamer that I would have left my subscription active for even after i stopped watching, for like 4 years😎. You deserve everything good coming your way my dude, peace!
the classic wow to right wing grifter pipeline continues.
Damn Staysafe joins Firestar in the "Decimated by Ziqo Hall of Fame"
Who would actually like staysafe over ziqo???
Staysafe is completely wrong in this matter he is clearly a good public speaker but he is a liar and he does foster a hate or rage filled stream community…it is the reason I stopped watching him…he says and allows racist things on his stream all the time
well done ziqo. i agree put it to bed now bro. you cant win an argument with an idiot bro. love from uk
woooo zeeqwo best makgora duels of all time back to brill baby
Ziqo fantastic work here! Much thanks for that!
Much love
ziqo you could pull off a flat top so well