I think I understand why these changes have been made; its so that ppl can play their favorite characters without having to worry about them being low tier
Just as a side note, you can actually do 5M instead of 5L with that teenhan loop for more damage. It's a tighter link and you have to do a DASHING 5M (which is notably harder to input), but it gets consistent and it'll even autocorrect itself to make future loops easier (i.e. you only have to do one "dashing" 5m and then the timing gets so much easier) Made a guide / demo on it but won't self-plug. I love the tohan stuff though man!
@@thebigsad9244 @JackJackKcajify i mean he said exactly how to do it so you can just do it yourself instead of watching the tutorial... but also if you would like a visual aid he let people know he has it. if your intent is to just spread information thats how you do it lol.
Yeah, except not everyone is broken. Its still fusion, UI, labcoat meta since all of these needed serious buffs. The only difference is that the game is just more annoying now.
Such an awesome patch ! Make me wanna learn all my characters back, and so many more ! Great job on giving this game such a great lifetime ahead (at our level)
Better confirms, more damage, more mixups, more tricky sequences, buff normals range. I think they want to reduce one game time by getting hit as soon as possible with damage as much as possible. Party game became even more party.
@@LunaMinuna you know they're talking about the colors since those super dark colors aren't in the game. they're mods. they aren't talking about the patch changes.
I'm glad all characters are more potent, but I'm afraid this game is going to turn from a two touches to a one touch game. I wish they could keep the same changes but nerf all damage for something like 20-40%.
Majin 21 getting her final boss super is funny. If it truly is unblockable then you might only need 1 C assist to "combo" into it, since you could potentially leave them in such a way that they can't stop the super at all after recovering. I'd test this but I stopped playing a while back and would need to reinstall it
I've done this. It's silly. You definitely CAN stop it, but it's pretty tough off a C assist connecting, depending on how far you were when the C hit you. Get caught by a C fullscreen and, yeah, half ur healthbar is done for.
@@maximeboyer8662It was not but it was cwey easy to get hit by if you didn’t switch which side you were blocking but it absolutely could be blocked crouching before
Would love to hear your thoughts about this patch Inzem, it seems it's pretty controversial, and personally I think we've got 50% good changes and 50% bad changes
Baby is 100 percent top tier now, he was already broken last patch and not he’s even better. Trunks so also finally top tier now too. I’m happy they finally made goku blacks command grab fast enough to be good, but I wish they had also made his 2m 9f.
Now every character is crazy so there's not just a few that are crazy I think every single character and team should be viable in this game now while I do think the double super thing is crazy most of the movement and combo options have opened up a whole new game
Honestly even looking at this patch, i still cant believe who thought this was good balancing or good for the game even a two months out. More skip neutral, less recovery on crazy moves, armor, another comeback mechanic. Honestly i dont think any other patch has done more to make the game feel and play so drastically different and imo for the worse.
Its hype men, they finally nerf Vegito A assist but buff his counter and 2L and with the anchor buffs the meter value went up which makes a huge L for characters with meter nerfs and feels like battery characters as anchors can be deadly but idk
Yea, I’m SSBE rank and was planning on going higher but ever since this update I don’t think it’s possible anymore if almost every character can nuke you near the start of the match.
Legit I think if you don’t spark with trunks and do Heavy, ki blast, masenko, super dash, L, M, up heavy,, repeat then do his level 2 you can then do a level 3 if your in the corner. If it doesn’t kill then you’ll be close.
@@kachosuffer7 Dude I fought someone who had no previous matches and they straight up nuked my character with Base goku, I still won but if people who just picked up the games can nuke you more skilled players will do it much easier.
Might not be the best character, but I’m glad Bardock got these buffs. Dude hasn’t really had anything noteworthy since they nerfed his B assist, so the new properties on 236M/H rebellion spear with the ol’ rebellion spear + vanish are great.
Honestly, I kinda get why they did what they did. I don't think DBFZ was ever going to have a ton of logevity as a neutral focused game centering on footsies and such in the brave new world of SF6, MK, etc. so they kind of decided just to lean into the way the game was going and try to carve out a unique niche. Is it good for the game in a competitive sense? I don't really know? Probably not. But it is exciting and makes a lot of previously sort of cut and paste white bread characters a little more interesting. Also with all the solo conversion and mix, it feels like they made every character an anchor.
Can Ginyu combo from level 2 into body swap without being anchor or does he need to be anchor for it to work? Being able to pick which Ginyu force member you summon after his team level 3 is pretty cool. Getting that guarenteed purple comet flash Oki is sick. All the Frieza changes make me very happy. Being able to manually control when his golden form ends and being able to combo off Sorbet laser let's you maintain control instead of losing it. I'm betting you can combo into Sorbet laser if you end Golden form at the right time.
as far as I know you have to be in limit breaker, and his old combo routes into body swap no longer work from what I heard making this the only real way to do it.
It was so annoying when you had to time your ground only level 3's input so you don't do DR because it was too early and it didn't whiff because you were too late glad they fixed it
Personally I really hate the new Beerus level 1>level 3 mix but at the same time if I'm spending 4 bars on zero damage I better get a fucking mix up out of it.
Not sure this is the right place to ask, however if you had to choose between trunks, ssj goku or goku black for a middle position. Who would you choose? Thanks in advance all
Not really a fan. I thought it was pretty interesting before how goku's super spirit bomb kinda needed someone to set it up, it felt like a callback to the show. Some people have such stupid pressure now you can rarely get in on them. The worst by far is the super into ult at solo; basically every game (except a straight shut out) boils down to "first to hit with their last character wins." It's honestly made the game pretty boring for me, personally. Feels like a 12 year old made this patch with the juvenile "but what if everything was super epic awesome pwnage super special awesome mode???!!!" logic at play here.
From playing new UI goku, I noticed you cant do the normal corner combo anymore. Where you 2s into the spinning ki blasts into 5 h. Because it makes whoever your fighting go behind you. This feels really bad and clunky IMO
![DBFZ Final Balance Patch Visual Guide [Version 1.33]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-SbP1jV5fwk/mqdefault.jpg)
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I got you fam, Thanks for the video!!!
14:24 you forgot to mention that this super heals you while it’s charging
No I didnt@@sekktre
@@INZEMI'll sub in exchange for a link to that Frieza mod. That is fucking GAS.
With frieza, if you call sorbet after deactivating golden and it hits, you can get a combo now
1:52 Quick note Piccolo can Also grab mid air and continue his combo
Goku really be like "but what if I charged Spirit Bomb during Kamehameha?" and solved most of the early DBZ battles where he was vulnerable during it
I’m waiting for them to add chain lvl 3s yk to be cool like that
@@helio3728there is chain lvl 3s gt goku spirit bomb cover change
@@raymondvincente that’s crazy
I think I understand why these changes have been made; its so that ppl can play their favorite characters without having to worry about them being low tier
Completely agree
Yeah. I WISH that I was better at the game to utilize these changes to their fullest, but I’m ok with watching the craziest combos in a UA-cam video.
@@knines6279 immaculate vibes
This explains so much, right after the patch I played against someone using SSJ vegeta, and that A assist felt like it lasted for years
08:38 exactly what Nappa needed, even more mixup potential. God I love that bald dude
Just as a side note, you can actually do 5M instead of 5L with that teenhan loop for more damage. It's a tighter link and you have to do a DASHING 5M (which is notably harder to input), but it gets consistent and it'll even autocorrect itself to make future loops easier (i.e. you only have to do one "dashing" 5m and then the timing gets so much easier)
Made a guide / demo on it but won't self-plug. I love the tohan stuff though man!
wont self plug but casually posts a comment detailing the method
“I made a guide/demo but I don’t want to advertise I made a guide/demo”
@@thebigsad9244 @JackJackKcajify i mean he said exactly how to do it so you can just do it yourself instead of watching the tutorial... but also if you would like a visual aid he let people know he has it. if your intent is to just spread information thats how you do it lol.
nah don't think so@@dankdaniel007
Thank you for adding timestamps! The only characters I play are Videl, GT Goku, and SSJ Goku so it makes it easier to find them
13:00 Beerus really said "*teleports behind you* tsk nothing personnel kid"
They just turned DBFZ into the wild west...AND I LOVE IT.
Much rather have a game where everyone is broken than only a few select
Yes, fair. It’s truly magnificent-
It was the wild west in season 1 bruv lol
you didn't play season 1 hunh
I'm getting real sick of baseku 1 shots and stuff honestly. It stops being fun real fast
Yeah, except not everyone is broken. Its still fusion, UI, labcoat meta since all of these needed serious buffs. The only difference is that the game is just more annoying now.
20:36 GT Goku's arms have finally got the rest they needed and are back to business
Such an awesome patch !
Make me wanna learn all my characters back, and so many more !
Great job on giving this game such a great lifetime ahead (at our level)
So we are playing Rainbow Edition aka UMvC3 right now? Good.
As hook would say this patch is Mickey af
he always says that bruh what patch did people not think was goofy at first
@@rikibdgd4764 Parroting figureheads is why the community talks the way it does, tbh.
@@ThatWolfArrow yea it usually is
mickey mouse game
Fr fr wasn't expecting broken ass buffs base goku got the easiest T.O.D combo ever created
the r/Dbfz community patch
Better confirms, more damage, more mixups, more tricky sequences, buff normals range. I think they want to reduce one game time by getting hit as soon as possible with damage as much as possible. Party game became even more party.
Bro is doing Gods work
I like how Everyone Gets big changes and Zamasu just gets one of the worst changes and it is for a move that didn't need it (I'm talking about 214H)
i mean
as a Zamasu main i can see that having huge implications for more advanced combos so is it that useless
Videl too, they massacred my poor girl.. she has no autocombo anymore.
Majin 21 got her auto combo massacred too 😢
@@Cherry_zaynyeah she need better buffs
@@Cherry_zaynyeah but she gets a tick throw from it so it's p much a buff in disguise
Your Mods Look Incredible!
Chat do they know?
@@LunaMinuna you know they're talking about the colors since those super dark colors aren't in the game. they're mods.
they aren't talking about the patch changes.
The extra black colors look so much better. It makes the character pop more.
This is the best visual guide ive seen so far. Truly appreciate it 🔥
I'm glad all characters are more potent, but I'm afraid this game is going to turn from a two touches to a one touch game.
I wish they could keep the same changes but nerf all damage for something like 20-40%.
Only few characters can do one touch death, other needs to do two touches. Maybe the neutral game can risen up.
@@luizp.7251baseku using raw supers only for a tod (even level 7s cant do that much)
It's cause last years event took too long so they made everyone crazy to get matches done faster.
I see why you would think that. The devs are too scared to add chip dmg in this game so they give us this instead
It was already a two touch game
I'm so glad my favorite character SSJ Vegeta is finally in the big leagues now
Majin 21 getting her final boss super is funny. If it truly is unblockable then you might only need 1 C assist to "combo" into it, since you could potentially leave them in such a way that they can't stop the super at all after recovering. I'd test this but I stopped playing a while back and would need to reinstall it
I've done this. It's silly. You definitely CAN stop it, but it's pretty tough off a C assist connecting, depending on how far you were when the C hit you. Get caught by a C fullscreen and, yeah, half ur healthbar is done for.
Inzem hitting with the special video ❤
they just want to turn DBFZ into MVC3
Good
More games should be marvel 3
@@sleepysomebodya smol brain mash fest.
Lil late for that
Stop comparing it to UMVC3
They are not the same
I had the Level 1 into Level 3 thing happen to me in one of my games, and I was so confused. I thought UI got a buff and could do that.
Wait, Beerus autocombo wasn't an overhead before?!
I was certain it was???? Maybe it just hit overhead but was not overhead officially, kinda like goku black 5LLL now being an "official" anti air
@@maximeboyer8662It was not but it was cwey easy to get hit by if you didn’t switch which side you were blocking but it absolutely could be blocked crouching before
You forgot the faster start-up on airial 236M... it lets you do 236H combos without meter now, so I feel like it's important
"how do we balance command grabs with broly in the game?"
"Nearly all commands grabs now have armor"
Sad sbroly noises
Lythero and Raptr eating good fr
Would love to hear your thoughts about this patch Inzem, it seems it's pretty controversial, and personally I think we've got 50% good changes and 50% bad changes
Also you can go diagonal with the donuts btw
Baby is 100 percent top tier now, he was already broken last patch and not he’s even better. Trunks so also finally top tier now too. I’m happy they finally made goku blacks command grab fast enough to be good, but I wish they had also made his 2m 9f.
WOW. Yeah I might have to come back to this game asap. COME ON ROLLBACK THAT’S ALL WE NEED NOW!!!
As soon as I seen the first combo I was like noo you did him durty dirty
i love how you put vegito and gogeta with regular yellow hair. As a dbs hater it’s warms my heart
This patch made me change my whole identity, I used to be bluegeta for life day 1 but base goku showed me the coolest fucking limit break combo EVER
I forgot this game still gets Updates I'm so exited!
As a blue gogeta, super broly, and z broly main
I have ascended to God hood with this patch (yes I use anchor z broly)
Great recap, thanks! ❤
Gill's theme from SfV... My man got taste
Love the update because it's TRULY SB craziness as it should be!
Now every character is crazy so there's not just a few that are crazy I think every single character and team should be viable in this game now while I do think the double super thing is crazy most of the movement and combo options have opened up a whole new game
Honestly even looking at this patch, i still cant believe who thought this was good balancing or good for the game even a two months out. More skip neutral, less recovery on crazy moves, armor, another comeback mechanic. Honestly i dont think any other patch has done more to make the game feel and play so drastically different and imo for the worse.
Day 2 of team suggestions:
Jiren (A)
SBroly (B)
Vegeta Blue (A)
Great synergy and HUGE damage.The Big Bang needs a bit of timing, but it’s worth it
bro thought it was argin's channel
they turned this from fighters to mahvel and i LOVE it
Teen gohan sliding into your DM
ARCSYS KNEW GIVING US HIT MAINS MORE THAN ONE LOW WOULD BE TOO POWERFUL.
Did I just fuckin witness a base Goku nearly soloing fat buu.... Jesus this patch is nutty
Its hype men, they finally nerf Vegito A assist but buff his counter and 2L and with the anchor buffs the meter value went up which makes a huge L for characters with meter nerfs and feels like battery characters as anchors can be deadly but idk
Fat Buu is now E Honda😂
Teen Gohan has some cool loops now
They killed for sure the competitive community with this one
Yea, I’m SSBE rank and was planning on going higher but ever since this update I don’t think it’s possible anymore if almost every character can nuke you near the start of the match.
This game is beyond garbage now
Legit I think if you don’t spark with trunks and do Heavy, ki blast, masenko, super dash, L, M, up heavy,, repeat then do his level 2 you can then do a level 3 if your in the corner. If it doesn’t kill then you’ll be close.
it hasn't even been a day. just learn and adapt like usual 🗿
@@kachosuffer7 Dude I fought someone who had no previous matches and they straight up nuked my character with Base goku, I still won but if people who just picked up the games can nuke you more skilled players will do it much easier.
My favorites are goku black,android 21,android 18,labcoat android 21,and Kefla were my favorite in the game but I haven’t played it in a long time
3:30 forgot to mention that you can combo after too
In my opinion, the lvl 1/2 + 3/5 routes for last characters, would should do a damage scaling adjust.
Me when I was at school: *sleep*
Me when I watch anothet patch of DBFZ knowing damn well I know almost nothing and don't play it: *REAL SHIT*
Might not be the best character, but I’m glad Bardock got these buffs. Dude hasn’t really had anything noteworthy since they nerfed his B assist, so the new properties on 236M/H rebellion spear with the ol’ rebellion spear + vanish are great.
Honestly, I kinda get why they did what they did. I don't think DBFZ was ever going to have a ton of logevity as a neutral focused game centering on footsies and such in the brave new world of SF6, MK, etc. so they kind of decided just to lean into the way the game was going and try to carve out a unique niche. Is it good for the game in a competitive sense? I don't really know? Probably not. But it is exciting and makes a lot of previously sort of cut and paste white bread characters a little more interesting.
Also with all the solo conversion and mix, it feels like they made every character an anchor.
TRUNKS AND HIT WITH THE SHMOOVE LICENSE NOW!
This is giving ultimate marvel vs capcom 3 😁
this might be the craziest patch ever
I'm a (very) simple man. I see A21 in the thumbnail, I like the video
0:39 😮
Kaioken into Spirit Bomb is CRAAAAZY 😂😂😂
9:00 Saibaman combooooos
this patch is so fucking unhinged i love it
U can combo after sorbet hits the target in friezas recovery
Can Ginyu combo from level 2 into body swap without being anchor or does he need to be anchor for it to work?
Being able to pick which Ginyu force member you summon after his team level 3 is pretty cool. Getting that guarenteed purple comet flash Oki is sick.
All the Frieza changes make me very happy. Being able to manually control when his golden form ends and being able to combo off Sorbet laser let's you maintain control instead of losing it. I'm betting you can combo into Sorbet laser if you end Golden form at the right time.
as far as I know you have to be in limit breaker, and his old combo routes into body swap no longer work from what I heard making this the only real way to do it.
@@legitbooty2989ah ok. Thank you!
Goku Blue's EX shoulder tackle needs a guard point too just saying lol
It was so annoying when you had to time your ground only level 3's input so you don't do DR because it was too early and it didn't whiff because you were too late glad they fixed it
ohh dude that kefla combo was nuts, 6.2k without supers.
This patch is awesome 👌. I still wish this game would add one More season pass😢, i still thinks we need characters from GT and the superhero movie 😭
Wait. I thought this patch was a mod. It's official!???!!??
I wish we would get more dramatic finishes or new characters…
Did you mean full screen auto combo for most of the cast
Bandai Namco fr said “if everybody is super nobody is”
gogeta blue can literally do a level 7 (level 2 move into level 5),mf be saucing like the film
Gills theme?!?!! FUCK YEAH!!!
Personally I really hate the new Beerus level 1>level 3 mix but at the same time if I'm spending 4 bars on zero damage I better get a fucking mix up out of it.
Some of these changes are kinda stupid like why is Vegeta blue grab invincible.
SBroly still got nothing but more damage
Might need to pick up bardock again. Just need to figure out who I'm going to replace. Gotta do a coin flip between Goku Black and Trunks
They really need to just work on the sequel. We've been getting these mugen patches for a while now.
As a 21, Gt Goku and Beerus enthusiast, I'm eating
God damn this is dbfz Kaioken edition
Bro a blue gogeta with plus frames is unreal
Not sure this is the right place to ask, however if you had to choose between trunks, ssj goku or goku black for a middle position. Who would you choose? Thanks in advance all
Labcoat will never replace her 21% nerf with a 2.1% and be fair.
When does Goku SSJ3 appear? Even if I do the attack it stays on SSJ, same animation.
What console do you play on?
Lythero can dunks goku’s even faster now!
Not really a fan. I thought it was pretty interesting before how goku's super spirit bomb kinda needed someone to set it up, it felt like a callback to the show.
Some people have such stupid pressure now you can rarely get in on them.
The worst by far is the super into ult at solo; basically every game (except a straight shut out) boils down to "first to hit with their last character wins." It's honestly made the game pretty boring for me, personally.
Feels like a 12 year old made this patch with the juvenile "but what if everything was super epic awesome pwnage super special awesome mode???!!!" logic at play here.
I gotta get those colors
Patch so nasty 😭🔥🍁
Does this apply to Nintendo players im trying the same thing on there simple mode and non simple mode some things aren’t working
From playing new UI goku, I noticed you cant do the normal corner combo anymore. Where you 2s into the spinning ki blasts into 5 h. Because it makes whoever your fighting go behind you. This feels really bad and clunky IMO
good
5:30 excuse me, whaaaaat?! I love that I laugh at fighting game nonsense.
I prefer you talking instead of having to read. Alot of times i watch your vids while at the gym or driving.
Krillin mains are simply thriving.
It would be great if you made a lost with who received a buff and nerf
Looks like Marvel 3 now
Wacky-ass game
Update: I like the game more than ever now. The stuff I can do now is awesome.
It's not UMVC3 and if it was that would be the diet version of it but dbfz is now nothing but Disney land