(Please note that the following is from RC flying, my 'real' flying consists of very basic VFR). I find that every plane has a very different 'sweet spot' for the flat inverted spin, and the biggest variable is the aileron input. Almost all (model) planes I've flown needed full rudder and down elevator, most need low but not idle power, and then I "search" to find the right aileron position. This not only varies from plane to plane but seems to be different even with the same airframe on different days- altitude density, humidity, etc. MUCH easier to do from the ground- no dizziness. Great video. Just watching the altimeter spin down was worth it.
Hi Spence! The reminded me of doing this spin flying RC planes years ago... easy to do except I wasn’t in the cockpit!! I do remember letting go of the stick back to neutral and cut ting back the throttle. Thx for the video
No. In fact the engine must be set to idle to initiate the recovery. ALL spins are recovered the same using the PARE method. Power=off Ailerons=neutral Rudder=opposite Elevator=forward for an upright spin, back for an inverted spin
Hi, I noticed in the video, the plane recovered really quickly from the spin. I read that usually you should wait some time between the opposite rudder input and pulling back/pushing the stick forward. Is it different in this aircraft? Also, will Power = off already stop the flat spin and return you into a normal spin? I am not a pilot (yet ;) ) but I like to play around in flight sims, so this is a question I can't find many answers for. Thank you :-)
Any flat spin (upright or inverted) is strongly effected by in-spin or out-spin aileron so flight controls do have a large effect on flat spins but don't take my word for it. Anyone curious about this should take an advanced spin lesson with a qualified aerobatic flight instructor.
Low airspeed characteristic of a spin versus a spiral dive. Spins nothing to be scared of. Never use lots of rudder at low airspeed. I have survived a spiral dive in heavy cloud - "Power off to reduce the rate of descent; roll wings level on artificial horizon; pull HARD; when 'little bird' well into the blue, full power." And PRAY you are not too low. It changes your life. CAVU skies.
Well he said the video was for aerobatic pilots familiar with upright and inverted spins. To spin flat inverted you enter with right rudder, this causes the airplane to roll and spin to the left therefore P-factor and all other left turning tendencies of the prop keep it going as the point he was making. He uses right aileron because that is 'Outspin aileron' in this case. It's kinda backwards when you're inverted.
Spectacular!!!!! You are freaking amazing!!!! As soon as this corona virus slows down I would love some instruction please.
(Please note that the following is from RC flying, my 'real' flying consists of very basic VFR). I find that every plane has a very different 'sweet spot' for the flat inverted spin, and the biggest variable is the aileron input. Almost all (model) planes I've flown needed full rudder and down elevator, most need low but not idle power, and then I "search" to find the right aileron position. This not only varies from plane to plane but seems to be different even with the same airframe on different days- altitude density, humidity, etc.
MUCH easier to do from the ground- no dizziness. Great video. Just watching the altimeter spin down was worth it.
Hi Spence! The reminded me of doing this spin flying RC planes years ago... easy to do except I wasn’t in the cockpit!! I do remember letting go of the stick back to neutral and cut ting back the throttle. Thx for the video
Beautiful plane. Looks like you wear it! Would love to fly something like this in future. Have to start with PPL first 🙂.
No. In fact the engine must be set to idle to initiate the recovery. ALL spins are recovered the same using the PARE method.
Power=off
Ailerons=neutral
Rudder=opposite
Elevator=forward for an upright spin, back for an inverted spin
Hi,
I noticed in the video, the plane recovered really quickly from the spin. I read that usually you should wait some time between the opposite rudder input and pulling back/pushing the stick forward. Is it different in this aircraft?
Also, will Power = off already stop the flat spin and return you into a normal spin?
I am not a pilot (yet ;) ) but I like to play around in flight sims, so this is a question I can't find many answers for.
Thank you :-)
Great! I am really wondering how during cockpit spins you control your brain to stay focused and not getting labyrinthitis?
Keep the journey!
Any flat spin (upright or inverted) is strongly effected by in-spin or out-spin aileron so flight controls do have a large effect on flat spins but don't take my word for it. Anyone curious about this should take an advanced spin lesson with a qualified aerobatic flight instructor.
I'm sure the guy who did 98 inverted flat spins in a row doesn't know what he's talking about..
Congratulaciones thanks for a exelent video and Explanation
The Best for you
great move, thanks for the help
I like the Mueller/Beggs method. Great video
Amazing how low the airspeed remained throughout the spins.
It's kinda crazy, but the airspeed in a spin is just a couple of kts over VS1... It certainly doesn't feel that way when you're in there.
Low airspeed characteristic of a spin versus a spiral dive. Spins nothing to be scared of. Never use lots of rudder at low airspeed. I have survived a spiral dive in heavy cloud - "Power off to reduce the rate of descent; roll wings level on artificial horizon; pull HARD; when 'little bird' well into the blue, full power." And PRAY you are not too low. It changes your life. CAVU skies.
I’m surprised there is no mention of the rudder inputs since it is primary control to enter and recover from a spin (inverted or upright).
Well he said the video was for aerobatic pilots familiar with upright and inverted spins. To spin flat inverted you enter with right rudder, this causes the airplane to roll and spin to the left therefore P-factor and all other left turning tendencies of the prop keep it going as the point he was making. He uses right aileron because that is 'Outspin aileron' in this case. It's kinda backwards when you're inverted.
what is name music, somebody answer me please!
5 years later and you still want to know the song
Inverted Flatspin. Or how War Thunder Pilot call it "Pancake".
Great flying and aerobatic skills but I am getting nauseated just watching this video.....