I once had my home-designed RC model airplane get into a spin. I didn't realize it was in a spin at the time, and it was most puzzling to me why, with full up elevator, it continued its whirly descent right into the ground. Now, I know that up elevator can't get you out of a spin.
Power to idle, apply forward yoke/stick pressure, neutralize the ailerons, and apply opposite rudder. When the spin stops, neutralize the rudder, and wait for the plane to accelerate some before pulling back on the yoke/stick to pull out of the dive. Pull back too soon or too hard and you’ll go into a secondary spin..
Great video, thank you for the explanation. I have a question about AOA, THE inside wing has greater AOA is because the aileron deflection, downward rolling movement or slower speed than the outside wing? Or all the factors contributes to that? Thanks
I'm no expert, but it seems to me that the inside wing's greater AOA at the onset of a spin would be due to all the factors you mentioned, and to varying degrees depending on the aircraft design and other conditions.
It has to do with the AOA caused by the aileron changing the shape of the wing. The lowered aileron causes the wing to think it is at a higher AOA (connect the imaginary trailing edge to the leading edge - this is your chord line) The aileron works by increasing AOA on one wing, then deflecting air on the other wing. So using aileron to fix a spin is the worst thing you could do, because the lowered aileron makes the wing think it has a higher AOA, and a higher AOA is the very thing that caused the stall in the first place. Make sense? The aileron deepens the stall of that wing that is already stalled more than the other wing.
I have a question to ask: can you recover with a V-Tail aircraft? Does anyone know where there is footage of a v-tail recovering from a spin. I understand you can do aerobatics with a v-tail, but not a spin. It appears a v-tail does not have enough rudder to recover.
Less than 500 feet AGL you are most likely doomed. 1000 feet AGL should be enough for any trained pilot. 2000 feet should be enough for any pilot. If a pilot can't recover a spin in less than 2000 feet he should not be flying.
The initial spin in the ìncipient phase the airplane loses 1000ft of altitude. Every spin thereafter is about 500ft altitude loss. So, yeah, need the altitude if the airplane is in a spin. If you recovered before the spin, hallelujah. If the aircraft is not spin rated you have only approximately 1.5 turns or 3 seconds (whichever is longer) to recover the aircraft before the aircraft is not guaranteed to survive the scrutural stress (can literally fall apart in the air.)
The lady's voice is so soothing, especially when talking about imminent death.
I once had my home-designed RC model airplane get into a spin. I didn't realize it was in a spin at the time, and it was most puzzling to me why, with full up elevator, it continued its whirly descent right into the ground. Now, I know that up elevator can't get you out of a spin.
With lipo's and brushless power, its now possible to do an inverted spin while climbing with 3D planes.
Power to idle, apply forward yoke/stick pressure, neutralize the ailerons, and apply opposite rudder. When the spin stops, neutralize the rudder, and wait for the plane to accelerate some before pulling back on the yoke/stick to pull out of the dive. Pull back too soon or too hard and you’ll go into a secondary spin..
Thank you for giving the GA explanation the video did not-too broad of a theoretical standpoint on the video.
PARE. Power to idle, Ailerons neutral, Rudder - opposite, Elevator down
@@mattc8831 it's funny because "pare" means stop in Spanish, and you want to stop the spin
I'm learning. That's in the Manuel I'm studying. Just need to put it in practice
Just want to add to the recovery process... lastly when you pull out of a spin... look up to see what you are flying into.
What can I say. From a point of view of a CFI your videos is absolutely stunning
Honestly, even seeing an animation of a fully developed spin makes me feel sick to my stomach 😅😮💨😂
As usual, fantastic explanation and graphics, thanks for sharing.
Many thanks!
tnx
Wonderful information
Many many thanks
Great video, thank you for the explanation.
I have a question about AOA, THE inside wing has greater AOA is because the aileron deflection, downward rolling movement or slower speed than the outside wing? Or all the factors contributes to that? Thanks
I'm no expert, but it seems to me that the inside wing's greater AOA at the onset of a spin would be due to all the factors you mentioned, and to varying degrees depending on the aircraft design and other conditions.
It has to do with the AOA caused by the aileron changing the shape of the wing. The lowered aileron causes the wing to think it is at a higher AOA (connect the imaginary trailing edge to the leading edge - this is your chord line) The aileron works by increasing AOA on one wing, then deflecting air on the other wing. So using aileron to fix a spin is the worst thing you could do, because the lowered aileron makes the wing think it has a higher AOA, and a higher AOA is the very thing that caused the stall in the first place. Make sense? The aileron deepens the stall of that wing that is already stalled more than the other wing.
I have a question to ask: can you recover with a V-Tail aircraft? Does anyone know where there is footage of a v-tail recovering from a spin. I understand you can do aerobatics with a v-tail, but not a spin. It appears a v-tail does not have enough rudder to recover.
This is what happened to Yeti looks like it from the roof top footage
I get into sstall spins in War Thunder sometimes, it's really frustrating cause I never know what to do and I am just falling out of the sky
I happen to run into it in KSP, same applies
Recognition is the correct coordination but you gotta have the altitude right?
Less than 500 feet AGL you are most likely doomed. 1000 feet AGL should be enough for any trained pilot. 2000 feet should be enough for any pilot. If a pilot can't recover a spin in less than 2000 feet he should not be flying.
The initial spin in the ìncipient phase the airplane loses 1000ft of altitude. Every spin thereafter is about 500ft altitude loss. So, yeah, need the altitude if the airplane is in a spin. If you recovered before the spin, hallelujah.
If the aircraft is not spin rated you have only approximately 1.5 turns or 3 seconds (whichever is longer) to recover the aircraft before the aircraft is not guaranteed to survive the scrutural stress (can literally fall apart in the air.)
Is it not possible to develop a software instead of requiring a human to “time” things perfectly to recover?
It already exists however Most aircraft are old as hell. Good luck upgrading those
The whole fun of flying light aircraft is to do it yourself, not let some piece of software or a robot fly it.
It isn't possible to make a modern aircraft to go into spin
that's why stall warning systems exist
@@user-du2cy7fo6b yes it is...
Beeb there, Cessnas are easy birds to spin.
anyone else here cus they just suck at war thunder?