M.2 NVMe vs SSD vs HDD - Loading Times in Games 2024
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
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Games :
Horizon Forbidden West - 0:06
Starfield - 0:53
Forza Horizon 5 - 1:36 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5
Assassin's Creed Mirage - 2:57
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora - 3:42
Cyberpunk 2077 - 5:11 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesCP2077
Alan Wake 2 - 5:41
Hogwarts Legacy - 6:24 - gvo.deals/TG3HogwartsLegacy
Resident Evil 4 - 7:09
System:
Windows 11
Ryzen 7 7800X3D - bit.ly/43e3VxW
MSI MPG X670E CARBON
G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz - bit.ly/3XlBGdU
GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16GB - bit.ly/48U6jfH
HDD - WD Blue 7200rpm 1TB - bit.ly/2KxYSFc
SSD SATA 3 - Samsung 870 - bit.ly/3wuPfPG
SSD M.2 - Samsung 980 PRO - bit.ly/3USqF4w
Power Supply CORSAIR HX Series HX1200 1200W - bit.ly/3EZWtNj - Ігри
Games :
Horizon Forbidden West - 0:06
Starfield - 0:53
Forza Horizon 5 - 1:36 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5
Assassin's Creed Mirage - 2:57
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora - 3:42
Cyberpunk 2077 - 5:11 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesCP2077
Alan Wake 2 - 5:41
Hogwarts Legacy - 6:24 - gvo.deals/TG3HogwartsLegacy
Resident Evil 4 - 7:09
System:
Windows 11
Ryzen 7 7800X3D - bit.ly/43e3VxW
MSI MPG X670E CARBON
G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz - bit.ly/3XlBGdU
GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16GB - bit.ly/48U6jfH
HDD - WD Blue 7200rpm 1TB - bit.ly/2KxYSFc
SSD SATA 3 - Samsung 870 - bit.ly/3wuPfPG
SSD M.2 - Samsung 980 PRO - bit.ly/3USqF4w
Power Supply CORSAIR HX Series HX1200 1200W - bit.ly/3EZWtNj
WD Blue not is a good HD, only WD Red.
Could you compare frametime graphs, delays, fps etc for each of the storage solution too?
@TestingGames can you do the same test but in game testing frame rate on all games NVME vs SSD vs HDD for frame testing performance
Specifically which m.2 and ssd sata did you use?
Advantages of HDD: "You have time to read the tips or part of the game's story"
SSD - M.2: *¡NO!*
Yeah it's useful to get experience especially in games like elden ring or souls games where finding tips to defeat a boss.
🤡 take. Nobody reads them, real players figure it out themselves
@@shreyasdharashivkar8027 if your pro and understand the game well then ofc it doesn't mean anything to u.Otherwise it can be helpful for beginners or in words noobs which most Pc gamers with 1000 dollar PC's stuck at same stage playing over and over again till they somehow manage move to next phase of the game after completing the first one.
1000 dólares, aqui dá 5 mil reais@@greatexpectation6456
It's not just loading. HDD's have texture pop ins, stutters and fps drops in cpu heavy games.
Yes, that is important to mention
💯%
HDD in any games in general.
SATA SSD have stutters in games too sometimes. They can't keep up with loading textures fast enough
@@Ladioz I think the speed difference between sata and nvme is so minimal that you are probably mistaking some cpu, shader compilation stutter with it.
The advantage of using an HDD is that you can see your reflection in the screen in front of you and reflect on all the problems in your life
Avatar on HDD 😮💀
Nap break for gamers
Classic Ubisoft moment
When loading took more than gameplay.
bro what the actual fuck
5min to load the game 💀
5:06 Avatar 😱🤯
OMG that Avatar HDD loading time! Damn....
HDD for gaming in 2024? NO.
HDD for personal data and important data? YES.
I don't know who you are, or where you're from, but literally *ANY* benchmark comparison I can imagine in my mind... you've posted. You branching out from GPU's is a fun distraction, and this one further proves that M.2 NVMe's aren't that much better than standard SataIII SSD's. 👌
Big thanks for all you do! 🙏
I would rather see a video comparing SSD M.2's speeds; example would be a 5000 MB/s vs 7000 MB/s. Or, perhaps be a Gen 3 + Gen 4 +Gen 5 comparison.
ua-cam.com/video/tD2pn1_jWPU/v-deo.htmlsi=ZbwqbnUN6xcjN0hO You're welcome
People have done those videos before. The differences in game load times are very small. The slowest M.2 and the fastest M.2 are within 10% of each other.
The difference is minimal. Even the much slower SATA SSD on its worst benchmark was only a few seconds slower than the NVMe drive.
Thanks for the responses selohcin and Biyobi
It's not about the sequential read/write speeds, it's more about random read/write speeds, and even SATA SDDs are very close to NVMe in random speeds, it relies in good controllers, DRAM cache, and things like that. Both SSDs are both much much faster than HDD, for example, it's 1MB/s for HDD and 30-50MB/s for SSD.
Sata ssd still rocks
While I do use a pretty decent gen 4 nvme for gaming, I am never ever going to use it to store anything important on it. There's just way too many horror stories of them failing to keep things long term. That's why I'm still using my HDD for all personal and work related stuff. You can get insane amount of storage for less money and they really don't need much to last you a lifetime. I am so grateful to see case manufacturers still include HDD racks to this day!
Thats the best way to do it.
Store important files on a HDD and use a SSD for gaming. That's what I have in my rig.
All my important files are on a 8TB HDD and all my games are split across 3 SSDs. Two NVME drives and a SATA SSD.
I never want to go back to a mechanical hard drive for games. Especially not after being spoiled with blazing fast loading times.
HDDs are obsolete now (at least for gaming) yet here in the Philippines, a lot of gaming PCs, especially ones with Ryzen APUs still have 1TB HDDs and 128GB SSD
its not really, you can go take a shit while the gaming is loading
php 2.7k for bnew 1tb hdd vs php 3.5k for bnew 1tb sata ssd
php 800 price difference for INSANE amount of loading time difference.
@@xTurtleOW games also struggle performance wise with HDDs too, it'll cause stuttering and things not loading or textures not loading etc
They put the HDD for everything but games, like pictures or movies for instance
@@tkimtkim what am I supposed to do with the measly 128GB SSD then?
I'm used HDD for multimedia
The HD WD Blue is bad HD. HD WD Red obtain 180 MB/s in read data. The blue 100 MB/s
@@BrunoCabralPeixoto I have Kingston HDD
If you are a gamer, then do you really need to spend 20-30$ extra to load your game a second faster.
Yes it’s only 30 bucks.
Where I live NVMe SSDs cost the same as SATA and they're more convenient - no cables and only 1 screw. Though I would say they are definitely overhyped. Some people act like SATA is garbage and NVMe the second coming of Christ.
Since the NvME drives mount directly on the motherboard, it helps with the air circulation.
@@Regexion One has very limited slot, usually just 1 in budget mb
Is there any M.2 2242 SSD available in the market? As I have one free slot in my laptop. Also, can I use that port to do something else rather than putting ssd
I still use HDDs, but only on a TrueNAS SCALE file server. You still cannot beat the storage value of HDDs especially at the higher capacities.
Yeah even today I am seeing 1tb nvme and SATA SSDs same price as 2tb of HDD and 1 TB extra does make difference if your going to update your games like warzone 100gb every month.Even Apex legends takes up to like 75gb of storage space after every update.
I remembered the old days when i had a 120gb hdd and had to wait the Need for Speed Underground 2 to load... This with a 768mb of ram on Windows XP...
I built a 486 DX2 66mhz, 8MB ram computer when I was 14. I couldn't even tell you the 2D/3D acceleration card I had back then (maybe Matrox)... but it played Janes USNF '97 quite well. And MS Flight Simulator 5.1. And of course DOOM 2!!
Need for Speed Underground 2 came a bit later, probably with a graphics accelerator and a Cyrix chip! (Probably 100mhz, but maybe more). It's really hard to keep track of how far I've come! 😃
Any chance you could eventually trying with two hdd set up as one with raid 0? I did this on a PC build recently that I'm selling and it felt like fallout 4 loaded a lot quicker than when I used to play on just a single HDD. Curious to see timings of a raid setup vs normal hdd
Thank🤗
For Gaming:
Sata SSD and M.2 NVME has no real world difference. So you'll be fine with either of them.
M.2 NVME shows it's true power/purpose only if you need to process or transfer large amounts of files. For loading Games, Textures etc. This won't matter.
Conclusion: Still you should get M.2 NVME's as they are often the same in price with the Sata SSD one's but if you don't have a M.2 slot or you ran out. Buying Sata SSD is a fine alternative. Don't go HDD unless really needed (Like server PC's or sumthing)
Buying Sata SSD if they are cheaper than M.2 NVME in your area is also a no brainer for a gamer
Its more than just loading in most of these games you would also have stuttering and pop in on HDD.
SSD SATA -Best decision price/time
And compatibility, you can take it to any PC.
I just bought a Sata SSD SanDisk Ultra 512gb to leave my old HDD retire. It's another life in PC and games.
I also tested Alone in the dark game. On hdd its runs bad . texture loads very late and fps drops. Atleast get a sata ssd if u wana play new games. Keep Hdd for media and older games only
I’d like to see a stability test as well between the them all. Most new games recommend an ssd.
Here I use nvme gen4 for AAA games, nvme gen3 light games, indies, heavier emulators... and I still have my hdds where I put media and light emulators
Both SATA SSD and NVMe are great of course not going with HDD for games but for a high storage for low price to save files in it is good, I would say the Hybrid Drive is good too but there's not a lot and famous and They're the same price of SATA SSD.
I have a suggestion for further testing on this topic. Its very interesting, and a real eye opener, but its also a rabbit hole into wonderland.
Use a caching program (PrimoCache), and set an L1 caching task reserving some RAM (the more, the better), and associate it to the HDD.
You can use any drive type (Even flash drives and SD cards.), but the most impressive and relevant results will come from HDDs, and Sata SSDs.
The speeds you will get, even from the HDDs, will rival (or surpass) NVMe drives. At least in file transfers they do, i never tried it with games installed as i only use HDDs for external backup storage these days, but i don't see why it wouldn't greatly benefit game loading as well.
I like it so much, that i bought a Primocache license. I bought 64Gb of RAM, of which i use half as L1 cache. And i even went a little crazy and also bought an Intel Optane M10 64Gb module, that i use as L2 caching. (Its overkill, but i really wanted to test one of these).
I feed this setup into all my drives, permanent, or removable.
For a "small" demonstration, here's a quick test i made, using a single run on CrystalDiskMark, on the Real World Performance profile (NVMe preset), with an almost full, external USB HDD, 5400rpm (Western Digital Elements).
Here's the result:
i.postimg.cc/FzdnnCtn/Crystal-Disk-Mark-20240509200931.png
Compare it with your own drives, using the same settings.
Mighty impressive as you can see.
А что так можно было , всё это время ?
dude who invented ssd
you saved so much time
I would apreciate to see ratchet and clank in your tests.
Well I guess I can take a 5min break wile trying to load Avatar frontier of pandors on my hdd
Probably close your eyes and take little rest till game finally opens up.Or drink a cup of tea in mean time.
@@greatexpectation6456🤣
That's a sign from the game to touch some grass.
That HD is quick.
They need to invent a new NVME with more pins and also more cache for faster speeds.
OK, but how about comparing x3 M.2: 1) the slowest (the cheepest), 2) medium on price and speed and 3) the fastest one (and the most expensive, like 980 pro by Samsung or something similar)?
I miss the time when booting up the PC means its time to load up the laundry and do the dishes.
How about games with Direct Storage?
U must include Rust In Loading times
a request to the admin of this channel , please start including frame time and frame pacing in the coming benchmarks with the new release of cpu, gpu, ram , storage in the upcoming year because these values are going to become more important as the frame per second will be high in all scenarios given that pc hardware has come a long way , 1 percent , 0.1 percent lows , frame time , frame pacing is what decides the actual user experience in games especially for online games , please highlight them because most people think only fps matters ........ gamers should become more educated .....
I hate how Forza takes several business days to launch compared to most games. Especially when you update GPU drivers, so you also have to wait for shader compilation.
Forza is such a well optimised game when it comes to FPS considering most games nowadays are shit at optimisation, but loading time is terrible
Apex also does that when you update drivers or the game itself. Takes 3 minutes at times.
Not as long as Last of Us though. Last of Us is like 30 minutes. Meanwhile Forza 5 took like a minute. The only difference is that Last of Us still stutters despite already compiled pile of ****. 🤷♀
Yeah thats my experience play game on ps4 like assasin creed valhala after update it took more then 2 minute lol
I used only m2 ssd. My setup m2 990 pro and 980 pro samsung😎 2 tb Storage
So you've saved yourself 1 second a day of load time with SSD that twice the price. Noice 👌😎
BTW I also have m.2 ssds but.. clearly they aren't impressive for gaming. Pcie 3 vs pcie 5 m.2 is probably 1/4 of a second or less on most games lol so long as you aren't on hddd... You good 100%
@@christophermullins7163lol
In need of directstorage :D
You can get a decent 1 TB M2 SSD for around 60€ here in Germany. HDDs for gaming are absolutely obsolete now.
5 yr old sata ssd keeping up with nvme. best investment ever.
Do benchmarks with external USB SSD/NVME. I'm using external ones and they are slower than internal SSD and NVME
Always slow get the full speed need be internal
На обычном жестяке после загрузки мира еще текстуры будут грузится какое-то время и на звуках и эффектах, производимых твоими действиям, тоже будет подлагивать, тк не может их синхронно подгрузить. У меня для любимых игр м2, для стареньких - сата. У сата особо нет плюсов сегодня, разве что, можно купить штук 5 бушных за копейки и неплохо расширить хранилище, но по скорости записи недорогой сата проиграет нвми, а дорогой сата брать ой как не хочется.
Missing 1 important game that "punished" storage.. that is Ratchet & Clank : Rift Apart 😁
So, what's the point on spending about 100$ (or even more) extra for NVMe when you can have SSD for games?)
Advantages of HDD: Store NSP and XCI files
my fav game test
I would’ve thought avatar crashed
its so sad, they making ssds so fast and it give nothing in games... it should be insta LOAD instaaa 0.1sec
sata ssd 500mb /s
m.2 15000mb/s
Most applications don’t use multiple parallel disk threads or command queues, so will never benefit from the NVMe protocol. Developers have to explicitly parallelize their disk activity to use NVMe properly.
what about windows load time? and fps comparasion
It's funny how i don't have any HDD on my pc, All the space is SSD and about 1TB of Nvme mainly for the OS, both very cheap nowadays.
My sandisk extrem ssd sata is fast enough when I put it next to my corsair mp600 pro xt 2tb😊.
its not only importent loading screen, hdd make feel stutter your screen and game its unplayable for me, your pc power on-off time is way too longer if your system has hdd. After sell my 1tb hdd to funny number and just buy ssds after this.
So what is the advantage of nvme over SATA SSD again? I'm bout to save me some cash and buy a 2.5inch SSD y'all. Frfr
This year I got a Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB for £235
HDD are still great for archives, backups, and data files that aren’t part of your OS or Applications.
Ok I thought theres a bigger difference between NVMe and SSD.... wow
Big Fan: No problem i can still wait 5 Min for Avatar 😂😂😂😂
Avatar loading on HDD will allow you to see a UA-cam video
OMG...HDD taking forever to load. 😲
M.2 Nvme should be the only option. They are becoming cheaper than a Sata SSD.
Interesting, I will stick with SSDs Very little difference from NVMes x
И дело не только в загрузке . На HDD будут еще и статоры подтормаживание и еще много чего из за медленной скорости .
Не сказал бы, что мои 2 HDD медленные, по 230 - 250 МБ/с. При должном уходе с ними нет проблем.
Запись на дешёвый SSD 256 GB TLC происходит раз в 10 дольше 😆 (10 - 50 МБ/с), а быстрое только чтение (200 - 400 МБ/с).
В основном ПК у меня NVME 970 Pro 1 TB MLC, если что (под систему и требовательные игры).
32 ГБ ОЗУ позволяют и с ЖД играть, без упора в подкачку.
lol i could read the data faster than the HDD xD joke aside, HDD are for storing a lot of data as they go up to 24TB, so there's still a good reason to use them, especially in NAS systems
For old games an HDD is okay but for newer games an SSD is an Game changer…
I hate that 4-8 TB are sooooooo expensive
This year I got a Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB for £235
Everyone has sata ports buy 2 or 3 4tb Hdd and use Raid 0
Even softwareraid will be on same speed as sata ssds for low
And now: PCIe 5.0 x4 🤔
Why dont they do these tests with 15k rpm hdd
Do people still use HDDs?
I still use HDD but for storage
I have 3 SSD's and 5 HDD's in my RTX 4080 PC. One of HDD's remembers 8800 GTX SLI setup and how it's still alive I have no idea.
@@club4ghzHDDs last for hyper long. Up to 30 years, and that's how you could still use old PCs. I had a Win 95 PC my dad used since the 90s and then I used it myself. Lasted for almost 3 decades.
SSD제품 소개 마이크론 crucial T700 1테라, 하이닉스 골드 P31 1테라, 하이닉스 플래티넘 P41 1테라, 삼성 PM9A1 1테라
하드디스크 소개 HGST 울트라 스타(Uatra star), 도시바 P300, 도시바X300
Incrivel como nós, PC Gamers, paramos para ver números de resultados que já sabemos mas, mesmo assim, dedicamos nosso tempo. Kkkkkk
This video has 8 min because of HDD loading time 😁😁
SSD Sata 🙌🏻
untill games start taking advantage of direct storage.
You should try running ark on them
I play emulators on an HDD, even PS3 runs smooth. I have my PC games on an nvme.
Great. Now put it on a RAM Disk like I do.
I will never play another 2015 onwards on HDD
Well good old ssd 2"5 with 550mb/s and nvme ssd with 5000mb/s+ is 1-3 seconds differents 😅 marketing was super, reality not 🚫
Stop bullying HDD 😭 lol
А как загружается система без быстрой загрузки ? у меня отключена быстрая загрузка потому что установлена амд видеокарта а производители амд и нвидиа рекомендуют отключать быструю загрузку что бы загружались нормально драйвера и не было сбоев следую этим советам и никаких проблем ни разу не было
M.2 NVMe for your main games
Sata SSD for your other games
HDD for your homework
Rip avatar 😢
I have 2 SSD's, after the results in this video, I will never buy a hard drive for competitive games
Hmm maybe SATA is not so bad after all
So you are telling none of those games are built for nvme architecture....nice next gen
You can save your time more just only buy SSD
720p vs 1080p vs 1440p🙏
Nvme:
It's worth it for those who work and NEED more data transfer speed, such as programmers, audio and video editing professionals, companies that need data transfers, 20...50...100gb... .servers and etc.
SSD:
Made for us, mere PC users focused on games and possibly some video editing (capcut). I was going to mention lives, but in this case it is a good CPU that allows you to do a good live at 1080 at 60fps (even if it is an HDD)
The difference in performance between SSD and NVMe when loading or even turning on the PC is not worth the investment of 500 to 700 contos. I use a Kingston 480GB SSD with 120GB free full of stuff, and it's only taking 30s to turn on and enter Win. Then I get excited and buy an NVMe because I saw on YT that it's better, the PC turns on in 24 seconds... OK, what's up? I spent 600 contos just for that? Do we understand what I mean? Nvme has almost zero weight in fps gains, nvme will not improve graphics, it will just subtract a few seconds from loading times. And then I question you: Is it worth spending 600 contos just to feel this difference in charging? I don't think so. Nvme prices are not worth it for now, I would eliminate nvme as a priority on your home gaming PC, focusing on other more relevant components.
The priority for a common user is:
supply power
motherboard
CPU
memoirs
GPU
SSD
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.
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nvme
HDD 7200, not 9400.
короче можно брать сата ссд, и не вые-ся при условии у кого м2 в регионах дороже существенно
LOL, your vaunted NVMe is gone from SSD)
Its getting worse each year. nevertheless, HDDs are still a great option for Recording Footage/Gameplay and Saving files Locally.
NvME is absolute scam of a storage. Only 1 second difference? Alright I would pay more over SATA SSD. 🤷♀
Not a single game with Direct Storage feature? Bro, you disappointed today.
The Horizon game at the beginning has direct storage🤦♂️ Be more disappointed in your ignorance
@@EX0007 actually yes xD Horizon has it
Avatar on HDD 💀
M2 Gen4 para jogos...😅
People still install games on HDD in 2024?