So many composers unjustly neglected. Rontgen is a perfect example whoes wonderful music is overlooked. Its time concert halls and radio 3 got a grip and play his music. He was prolific, talented and gifted composer.
Always see his name written on one of the balconies in the Amsterdam concert hall, however, never listened to one of his compositions before. Now I regret that. It's absolutely stunning
What is this music beautiful. It makes just as much impression as the piano concertos of Brahms. I am proud of this Dutch-German composer. He has an equally friendly look as Cesar Franck, a composer who was admired by Julius Röntgen. And also the second part, heavenly...
Delicately gorgeous, lilting melodies pervading the first movement, reminiscent of Schumann's Piano Concerto, but in the happier key of D major. Continuing in the spirit of the opening movement, the lovely second movement reminds me of the largo movement of Grieg's Piano Concerto. The third movement exhibits an extraordinary degree of coherence with the previous two movements, integrating and recapitulating sublime thematic material. This composer had a soul-felt kinship with the heart of beauty.
A very, very attractive concerto, with its simple, lyrical beginning and a lyric spirit pervading the entire work. The central movement starts a bit like the middle movement of Brahms' D minor but becomes more romantic; I am reminded of the equally gorgeous Adagio in the Bruch double concerto. The Finale fascinates with its ambiguities in rhythm and, especially, tonality, hovering between B minor and D major, of which key we are not assured until the coda! It is probably less difficult to play than the Brahms concerti, but seems to have similar tricky, abrupt register changes as in the Finale of the Schumann.
It is a lovely work isn't it? A friend of mine came back from the Netherlands some 15 or so years ago with a recording of it and he presented to me. God bless him! I have loved it ever since. Strange that Rontgen's music is not heard in Dutch concert halls...the recording I have is with the Orkest van het Oosten, pianist Folke Nauta. It's an absolute beauty!
What a gorgeous piano concerto! It definitely should not be forgotten. No, it isn't Brahms, or even Schumann but it is lyric like their music. No, it isn't Grieg or even MacDowell but the work's musical development is up to theirs. Unfortunately, the tunes are good, but not unforgettable. There is the rub! It is so sad that greatness is not something you can develop. It is inborn! At 83 with a complete dedication to developing my piano skills from the age of 10, I can tell you that you can work your "ass" off, but if you don't have that virtuosity, the ability to negotiate the harmonies of music (in all keys), and the total ability to memorize music quickly, forget it and find something that is inborn for you. We all have something! Unfortunately, Rontgen had the abilities, but genius exists in a rarified kingdom and struggle and work has nothing to do with it. I wonder if Rontgen tried conducting because his writing shows orchestral as well as compositional ability.
Julius Rontgen? Who he? What a nice surprise. This is a nice, friendly, lyrical piece that works from beginning to end. It never goes to the dark side or gets scary or angry. This is very pleasant listening.
I came back again to this.It's a finework.The ever enlargening largesse of the opening will always impress itself upon one and in the development in the 7th minute it shows how well organized is the meaning of this concerto.I will discover his other 3 piano con as well as the violin and cello -I have much to learn from Rontgen !He learned alot from Brahm's method of orchestration but his harmonies are his own - not perfect as interesting but there is much beauty here.Noone has written nything as strong as the 2 brahms concerto only Strauss Burleske is as consistently exciting and well thought out.Thankyou for letting us see the score you have done us all a great favor !
I understand this piece's difficult reputation. The finale is smooth and lyrical in that Brahmsian style, but this is clearly an unique composer's work still. The middle movement again shows that Brahms taught Röntgen how to modulate themes in song-like manner. The finale is clearly that of a new composer. The coda is the problem; there are too many shifts to previously unused key signatures and chordal patterns to fit in with the rest of the movement. Any fan of Schumann or Brahms *needs* to listen to this piece to see the continuation of the great legacy.
The finale isn't so much a new composer, just a different composer. Surprisingly, it's a mazurka, a la Chopin, with Schumann filling in for Brahms whenever the contrasting material is needed. The piam=no writing, as well as the excursions into remote keys are typical of Schumann (cf. the finale of his piano concerto.) For me, it's the most successful movement of work.
I really wish that instead of focussing on Beethoven, Brahms, Mozart, Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninoff almost exclusively promoters would look beyond those great composers - to those not quite so famous. It may not guarantee a full house - but it might just draw in new crowds too. So many 2nd tier composers out there - but not second rate by any means!
To me it's very obvious why a concerto like this isn't performed. The level of piano writing is too low -- it's too easy. I'm not denying that there is beauty here, but audiences want more flash.
A concerto of beautiful lyricism. The composer should not be forgotten. Thank you, olla-vogalla
+Mari Christian Welcome, as always Mari :)
This composer is never heard in the Dutch concerthalls.........
And that for a Dutch composer. It's a shame! For me a great composer with 24 symphonies, 7 pianoconcertos and 3 violin- and celloconcertos.
@@keesklaver9153 That is almost unforgivable and unimaginable as I explore this composer's various works thanks to You tube.
@@keesklaver9153 That is almost unforgivable and unimaginable as I explore this composer's various works thanks to You tube.
So many composers unjustly neglected. Rontgen is a perfect example whoes wonderful music is overlooked. Its time concert halls and radio 3 got a grip and play his music. He was prolific, talented and gifted composer.
Always see his name written on one of the balconies in the Amsterdam concert hall, however, never listened to one of his compositions before. Now I regret that. It's absolutely stunning
What is this music beautiful. It makes just as much impression as the piano concertos of Brahms. I am proud of this Dutch-German composer. He has an equally friendly look as Cesar Franck, a composer who was admired by Julius Röntgen. And also the second part, heavenly...
It does remind me of Brahm's style.
This is beautiful!! Why do we never hear this on stage?
Delicately gorgeous, lilting melodies pervading the first movement, reminiscent of Schumann's Piano Concerto, but in the happier key of D major. Continuing in the spirit of the opening movement, the lovely second movement reminds me of the largo movement of Grieg's Piano Concerto. The third movement exhibits an extraordinary degree of coherence with the previous two movements, integrating and recapitulating sublime thematic material. This composer had a soul-felt kinship with the heart of beauty.
I agree completely!!! Those who have never heard this are missing an important discovery!
A very, very attractive concerto, with its simple, lyrical beginning and a lyric spirit pervading the entire work. The central movement starts a bit like the middle movement of Brahms' D minor but becomes more romantic; I am reminded of the equally gorgeous Adagio in the Bruch double concerto. The Finale fascinates with its ambiguities in rhythm and, especially, tonality, hovering between B minor and D major, of which key we are not assured until the coda! It is probably less difficult to play than the Brahms concerti, but seems to have similar tricky, abrupt register changes as in the Finale of the Schumann.
It is a lovely work isn't it? A friend of mine came back from the Netherlands some 15 or so years ago with a recording of it and he presented to me. God bless him! I have loved it ever since. Strange that Rontgen's music is not heard in Dutch concert halls...the recording I have is with the Orkest van het Oosten, pianist Folke Nauta. It's an absolute beauty!
What a gorgeous piano concerto! It definitely should not be forgotten.
No, it isn't Brahms, or even Schumann but it is lyric like their music.
No, it isn't Grieg or even MacDowell but the work's musical development is up to theirs.
Unfortunately, the tunes are good, but not unforgettable. There is the rub!
It is so sad that greatness is not something you can develop. It is inborn!
At 83 with a complete dedication to developing my piano skills from the age of 10,
I can tell you that you can work your "ass" off, but if you don't have that virtuosity,
the ability to negotiate the harmonies of music (in all keys), and the total ability to memorize
music quickly, forget it and find something that is inborn for you. We all have something!
Unfortunately, Rontgen had the abilities, but genius exists in a rarified kingdom and struggle and work has nothing to do with it.
I wonder if Rontgen tried conducting because his writing shows orchestral as well as compositional ability.
Wow! a real beauty! First time I hear it
concierto bellísimo!!
Julius Rontgen? Who he? What a nice surprise. This is a nice, friendly, lyrical piece that works from beginning to end. It never goes to the dark side or gets scary or angry. This is very pleasant listening.
Brahms in his op. 83 will remember this great work
I came back again to this.It's a finework.The ever enlargening largesse of the opening will always impress itself upon one and in the development in the 7th minute it shows how well organized is the meaning of this concerto.I will discover his other 3 piano con as well as the violin and cello -I have much to learn from Rontgen !He learned alot from Brahm's method of orchestration but his harmonies are his own - not perfect as interesting but there is much beauty here.Noone has written nything as strong as the 2 brahms concerto only Strauss Burleske is as consistently exciting and well thought out.Thankyou for letting us see the score you have done us all a great favor !
Rachmaninoff 1, 3?
Medtner 2?
St Saens 5?
Mozkowski op.3?
I would argue with you.
Very beautiful. Thanks.
A terrific work.
I truly enjoy this performance. In some ways it reminds me of parts of one of Rubinstein's piano concertos. Rubinstein concerto #4 is my favorite.
I understand this piece's difficult reputation. The finale is smooth and lyrical in that Brahmsian style, but this is clearly an unique composer's work still. The middle movement again shows that Brahms taught Röntgen how to modulate themes in song-like manner. The finale is clearly that of a new composer. The coda is the problem; there are too many shifts to previously unused key signatures and chordal patterns to fit in with the rest of the movement. Any fan of Schumann or Brahms *needs* to listen to this piece to see the continuation of the great legacy.
Bravo.Perfettamente d'accordo. Affascinante il mov.to centrale.
The finale isn't so much a new composer, just a different composer. Surprisingly, it's a mazurka, a la Chopin, with Schumann filling in for Brahms whenever the contrasting material is needed. The piam=no writing, as well as the excursions into remote keys are typical of Schumann (cf. the finale of his piano concerto.) For me, it's the most successful movement of work.
Alex, great analysis. Thank you.
Never heard this or any works by this composer but its absolutely beautiful and not that challenging for the piano part either 👍🏻🍻👏🏻👏🏻
nice
I really wish that instead of focussing on Beethoven, Brahms, Mozart, Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninoff almost exclusively promoters would look beyond those great composers - to those not quite so famous. It may not guarantee a full house - but it might just draw in new crowds too. So many 2nd tier composers out there - but not second rate by any means!
A very surprising discovery... In this moment I do not know who was first, Brahms or Röntgen...although I know it...
Röntgen
very interesting, that intro to the reprise got to me
estou sonhando .....?
I think this piece sounds like Beethoven would live longer about 107 years old to compose a concerto.
Doktor için mi ama
Röntgen? Not the X-ray guy?
Brahms, Piano Concerto Nr 3...
Il secondo concerto di Brahms è del 1882....
who is hating went to ?
To me it's very obvious why a concerto like this isn't performed. The level of piano writing is too low -- it's too easy. I'm not denying that there is beauty here, but audiences want more flash.
He listened too much Brahms.
+Gert van Duijn Maybe Schumann, Grieg, and even MacDowell.
Still beautiful
+Gert van Duijn I completely agree.
@Emmanuel Avila Pianist indeed this masterwork never should be forgotten What a positive composition!