Wilhelm Stenhammar - Piano Concerto No. 2, Op. 23 (1907)

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  • @matteogenerani5097
    @matteogenerani5097 5 років тому +41

    0:06 - Moderato, recitando
    1:35 - Allegro molto energico
    2:11 - Più tranquillo
    3:45 - Allegro molto energico
    5:56 - Tempo primo (quasi cadenza)
    6:55 - Allegro molto energico
    8:34 - Sostenuto
    10:01 - Molto più mosso
    10:22 - Molto vivace
    12:25 - Allegretto dolce espressivo
    16:12 - Adagio
    16:31 - Molto vivace
    17:50 - Tempo Allegretto un poco sostenuto
    18:06 - Poco Adagio
    18:32 - Adagio
    24:48 - Tempo moderato
    26:09 - Animato
    29:26 - Tempo primo
    31:05 - Più mosso

  • @slothostpUL
    @slothostpUL 26 днів тому +1

    A beautiful concerto, and anything conducted by Svetlanov is a must-hear.

  • @bennyksmusicalworld
    @bennyksmusicalworld 4 роки тому +81

    The most underrated piano concerto out there, along with Moszkowski E major.

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      @gordonbentley1476 3 роки тому +1

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    • @SCRIABINIST
      @SCRIABINIST 2 роки тому +6

      @@gordonbentley1476 Why do you exist?

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      @bird401 2 роки тому +5

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      @fridgeron1641 Рік тому +4

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    • @TheModicaLiszt
      @TheModicaLiszt Рік тому

      Bliss

  • @hermanhillyrottier-jassies4901
    @hermanhillyrottier-jassies4901 6 місяців тому +3

    Having lived in Sweden I starten to admire Stenhammar and this concerto is one of my favourites.

  • @jacklevinson1
    @jacklevinson1 6 років тому +36

    i love how the piano and orchestra "argue" over the tonality of this piece between d minor/f major and c# minor (10:15 is a really good example) and how the piano reluctantly joins the orchestra in the same key at times. very unique to this piece which is why it became one of my new favorites

    • @JeremyRobertWalker
      @JeremyRobertWalker 2 роки тому +1

      Fit this into the context of being pre WWI

    • @mixchief
      @mixchief Рік тому +1

      @@JeremyRobertWalker Could also fit well within the context of our era, should he have composed this today.

  • @mateusquasetuga
    @mateusquasetuga 2 роки тому +11

    I remember hearing this on the radio on the school bus going home from school in about 1995. Made such a huge impression. Still love it. Yes, btw, I was a huge dork in high school.

  • @georgecziffra
    @georgecziffra 9 років тому +59

    That chord progression from 2:43 - 2:55 is completely out of left field but I love it

    • @mosaicclassics
      @mosaicclassics 9 років тому +11

      +georgecziffra Yeah! Like jazz progressions.

    • @3e3op88
      @3e3op88 8 років тому +12

      It's just the circle of fourths and fifths.

    • @gerardbegni2806
      @gerardbegni2806 7 років тому +2

      The important point is not the superstructure of the chords, but their root. I must confess that I did not note this section, so I cannot give any opinion of my own.

    • @retrops4261
      @retrops4261 7 років тому +1

      3e3op88 it is very much jazz voicing though, not classical

  • @JJTownley_Classical-Composer
    @JJTownley_Classical-Composer 9 місяців тому +2

    A really fine piano concerto one of the best in the literature of forgotten piano concertos. The first movement is a little weak but the other three are top notch, especially the finale. A nice little blast of Nordic winter in the line of Sibelius' Violin Concerto and parts of his symphonies.

  • @gerardbegni2806
    @gerardbegni2806 7 років тому +31

    This concerto is written in a very beautiful postromantic style. It is very wisely written, and the themes and developments are very appealing. A masterwork to put aside with his second symphony.

  • @kaybeenullenvoyde9196
    @kaybeenullenvoyde9196 3 роки тому +6

    Much of this work is a leisurely-seeming foray out and about, and then along come surprises. i had to listen to it for a number of YEARS until I started to get it, and am still unpacking the special moments. The coda stuck in my brain immediately, however...over 25 years ago. Great to revisit.

    • @MrInterestingthings
      @MrInterestingthings 7 місяців тому

      I believe this. Nonos fuerte...has taken me almost 30. This concerto feels as if it really has something to say
      .1907 a lit of this oldromantic stuff was still being written.The Villiers works delibera immediately.Often that means music won't live long within me.

  • @bowerdw
    @bowerdw 5 років тому +21

    I thought the first piano concerto contained everything I look for a piano concerto. This one even more so. Is that possible? Well, I think so.

  • @Ludvich-y8i
    @Ludvich-y8i 4 роки тому +8

    Stunning, stunning, stunning♥️♥️!!

  • @paulescudero9973
    @paulescudero9973 2 роки тому +4

    Very nice music. Thank you.

  • @Situnadei
    @Situnadei 5 років тому +5

    The great Swedish composer Stenhammar, he should be well known in the world, Fabolous

  • @EleftheriosMariosAntakis
    @EleftheriosMariosAntakis 7 років тому +24

    He is memorable, he doesn't need to be famous, he is meritorious ! ! !

  • @donnytello1544
    @donnytello1544 2 роки тому +6

    I really enjoyed this, as far as Scandinavian composition goes I’ve always loved it, but a lot of the composers excusing grieg/ Sibelius/atterberg/and rautavaara, ive not been too impress but this was a masterwork. Such a breath fresh of air, it’s totally unique and original, doesn’t even remind me of any other composers

  • @theknight9292
    @theknight9292 5 років тому +13

    This is so original and beautiful

  • @hyseo1121
    @hyseo1121 4 роки тому +6

    I like this piece very much. The 1st movement is so expressive.

  • @fp8035
    @fp8035 3 роки тому +4

    And what a pianist Ms. Eriksson was!!! Simply stunning, thank you for posting

  • @JulieinSeattle
    @JulieinSeattle 4 роки тому +1

    Came here to listen before a purchase at Arkiv. This composition is a revelation. Anyone who loves Brahms' piano concertos should enjoy this.

  • @wilh3lmmusic
    @wilh3lmmusic Рік тому +2

    24:48 onwards is great
    29:03 too

  • @MrInterestingthings
    @MrInterestingthings 7 місяців тому +1

    The 3/8section is an inspired.Then he goes back to the Franckian/Brahmsian chorale he opend up with.Feelslikethe idea is gestating and never gets out!

  • @andrewhill9093
    @andrewhill9093 7 років тому +11

    Just wonderful, can see this becoming a personal favourite!

  • @gerardbegni2806
    @gerardbegni2806 7 років тому +22

    The major orchestral works of Stenhammar are his two concertos for piano and his "second" symphony. He rejected the "first" symphony because he considered it as immature. This concerto and the second symphony show that Stenhammar was a great composer, fully aware of what he was writing. There is true magnanimity in this concerto. I do not know why he did not write more for orchestra. Perhaps he was too busy with his conductor business in Uppsala. He wrote also chamber music and piano sonatas.

    • @NovicebutPassionate
      @NovicebutPassionate 4 роки тому +3

      Don't forget his wonderful Serenade, Op. 31, in five movements. There is a striking similarity between the end of the 4th movement (Notturno) and Barber's Adagio for Strings. (Stenhammar Serenade, 1911 - Barber Adagio, 1936.)

    • @jaredoaks
      @jaredoaks 2 роки тому +1

      His Sensommarnätter is also spectacular.

    • @gerardbegni2806
      @gerardbegni2806 2 роки тому

      @@jaredoaks Yes, true. A very interesting composer. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @TonyMatthewsComposer
    @TonyMatthewsComposer 3 роки тому +4

    Amazing Work. Thankyou for posting this.

  • @esperantofeig
    @esperantofeig Рік тому +2

    The by far best recording of this concerto is with Janos Solyom and Stig Westerberg. Truly astounding music.

    • @bartjebartmans
      @bartjebartmans  Рік тому +1

      I think Greta Eriksson does a mighty fine job. Nothing wrong with her performance.

  • @jboushka
    @jboushka 6 років тому +10

    This music reminds me of Brahms, very late Chopin (Op 61 like), some Rachmaninoff (the slow movement), and especially Amy Beach. How can such an obscure work sound so familiar. A masterpiece.

  • @baileyrob
    @baileyrob 8 років тому +43

    This is so underrated it makes me sad.

    • @Enkaptaton
      @Enkaptaton 8 років тому +8

      Be happy. It can only become more famous.

    • @baileyrob
      @baileyrob 8 років тому +8

      When it becomes more famous, then I'll be happy. :(

    • @LandOnBolts
      @LandOnBolts 7 років тому +1

      I'm skating today lol yeah yeah but yeah yeah yeahs

    • @Majik47
      @Majik47 7 років тому +4

      You ought to listen to Hugo Alfvén then. Symphony # 3, for instance.

  • @kliberalsing
    @kliberalsing 2 роки тому +5

    MASTERPIECE.

  • @ytyt3922
    @ytyt3922 4 роки тому +3

    Beautiful and thrilling!

  • @Barnaldomort
    @Barnaldomort 5 років тому +8

    I am so shocked to discover this magnificent piece!

  • @bowerdw
    @bowerdw 5 років тому +5

    An awesome work.

  • @joespencer471
    @joespencer471 6 років тому +7

    Heard the piece on Sirius XM Symphony Hall a day ago. Nice; the 3rd Movement reminds me of Robert Schumann. Glad to find out pieces and composers, especially in the Romantic Era, that don't get much exposure.

  • @susanmdunn
    @susanmdunn 3 роки тому +5

    This concerto is the epitome of what's happening in the U.S. today. Two sides don't listen to each other. The piano wants to make everyone happy, but doesn't hear the deep angst of the orchestra. Finally, when the piano goes into C-sharp minor and "hears" the orchestra's heartbreak, the orchestra begins to become willing to hear what the piano has to offer. I don't know of a better work of "abstract" music that actually tells a humanistic story without the need of a written "programme." A masterpiece. A template of reconciliation.

  • @Astrid321
    @Astrid321 3 роки тому +2

    Tack, underbart

  • @AlessioAndres
    @AlessioAndres Рік тому +1

    Davy Jones Theme at 22:10

  • @sleort42
    @sleort42 3 роки тому +6

    Stenhammar fortjener at blive spillet lidt mere i koncertsalene. !

  • @AlbertoSegovia.
    @AlbertoSegovia. 3 роки тому +3

    A ritardando where there is no ritardando. A moderato that is not a moderato, and a moderato from his first concerto that sounds vivace. I have fallen in love at first listen with this composer; but what the hell is going on with contemporary performance? Where is the tempo palette? Is it that we only know freneticism? How many of us are acquainted with tempo ordinario tradition, or even connectected to our body’s reaction to aural stimuli, like when heartbeat guided music in the 1600-1700’s and beginning of the 1800’s? Did words mean something to Stenhammar? That I want to know, not what a pianist opines about his work. Thanks for sharing!! :)

    • @Pablo-gl9dj
      @Pablo-gl9dj 7 місяців тому

      Kind of late to ask Stenhammar.
      You are welcome to record your vastly superior version.

    • @Pablo-gl9dj
      @Pablo-gl9dj 7 місяців тому

      And no, it is not frenetic but controlled as the performer wished.

    • @AlbertoSegovia.
      @AlbertoSegovia. 7 місяців тому

      @@Pablo-gl9dj thanks to other composers’ metronome marks, we have better idea of what moderato and tranquillo and allegro could mean. And you are wrong, frenetic playing can be perceived by the audience; who in their majority have not been dipped head to toe in conservatories, where freneticism is the run-of-the-mill aesthetics. That’s the problem: on average, classical music no longer fills with the transcendent beauty it can, but only seems to care about showing off. You talk about this as if you were unaware of the recent tempo research, and as if we could demand that these artists should have known about it.

    • @AlbertoSegovia.
      @AlbertoSegovia. 7 місяців тому

      @@Pablo-gl9djIf the moderato by the performers is not the same as the composer wanted, I should keep looking for more recordings,

    • @AlbertoSegovia.
      @AlbertoSegovia. 7 місяців тому

      @@Pablo-gl9djand even within their chosen aesthetic system in this recording, why do the ritardandi and sostenuti not feel any different from the main tempi? Why should they feel the need to get with this over as soon as possible? Where is the spiritual quietude that the composer could have felt in order to want to write sostenuto? Thanks for giving me the idea to look for more recordings of this,

  • @kliberalsing
    @kliberalsing 2 роки тому +3

  • @ragnarzetterberg9032
    @ragnarzetterberg9032 7 років тому

    A truly great piece. Very impressionistic and it bodes the tragic and meaningless war to come a few years later...

  • @SuperPeacebreaker
    @SuperPeacebreaker 5 років тому +3

    26:34

  • @knownfact4905
    @knownfact4905 Рік тому +1

    I think he gets stereotyped or lumped in with other composers. I don't have the knowledge to pin it down but there's something going on in his handful of major works, something that brings me back

    • @Pablo-gl9dj
      @Pablo-gl9dj 7 місяців тому

      It's pleasant enough but not memorable and tends to meander at times.
      Maybe good but not even close to great.

  • @ullanorrby1251
    @ullanorrby1251 7 років тому +1

    Fr.o.m. 12,34 is a little bit elgar... beautiful

  • @JAMESLEVEE
    @JAMESLEVEE 8 років тому +1

    The key is D minor.

    • @bartjebartmans
      @bartjebartmans  8 років тому +5

      Ook wel d klein genaamd. Of d mineur. Klein maar fijn.

  • @douwemusic
    @douwemusic 5 років тому +5

    This is beautiful, but I can see why he didn't get very famous

    • @steveegallo3384
      @steveegallo3384 4 роки тому

      @Emmanuel Avila Pianist --- But what if....WHAT IF...they were just CHANNELING through Stenhammar? Like Mendelssohn's "Fingal's Cave" did for Wagner's 'Walkürenritt'? (Greetings from San Agustinillo!

  • @erika9763
    @erika9763 5 років тому +4

    The ads thrown in at random destroy the experience.

    • @wademanix8801
      @wademanix8801 5 років тому +1

      Where do you get ads? I never do.

    • @erika9763
      @erika9763 5 років тому

      @@wademanix8801 Do you have a paid membership to youtube? There are 3 or 4 ads thrown into this piece that interrupt the music.

  • @hugokubarth9316
    @hugokubarth9316 3 роки тому

    megalobombastico, but thanks for making it public

  • @isaacparra2071
    @isaacparra2071 2 роки тому

    ◑ 🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊 ◐

  • @4gnostic
    @4gnostic 9 років тому +6

    this is strange.

    • @wademanix8801
      @wademanix8801 5 років тому

      Turdy: Strange in what way?

    • @darrylschultz6479
      @darrylschultz6479 5 років тому +3

      @@wademanix8801 I think he was talking about his name.

    • @Ludvich-y8i
      @Ludvich-y8i 4 роки тому

      @@darrylschultz6479 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Metushalakh
    @Metushalakh 6 років тому +4

    Lyrical tragicness.

  • @Ami-dk9pl
    @Ami-dk9pl 4 роки тому +4

    Awful, the publicity in the middle of a concerto!