this was HARD to watch...*INVINCIBLE* S1 (part two)
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If your confused, Nolan did grow to love Mark, Debbie, and humanity as a whole. Since Mark took so long to get his powers he came to think Mark was fully human and changed his plan to wait out until Mark and Debbie died of old age, then fulfill his mission. But when Mark got his powers he realized he now had to come clean because he could wait it out anymore. That’s why he seemed almost sad when Mark told him in the first episode.
Everything Nolan said to Mark during their fight, he was saying to himself too.
Exactly. All of that carnage was to convince himself, not Mark
@@diegopansini3152nope it was to convince both
Comics knowledge 💪🏽
That's a really insightful comment.
Also you see tears as he flies off
"Animation is for comedy" is a very Western mindset created by Disney's stranglehold on the industry in the 20th century. This show leans more toward the anime side where any kind of story can be told.
It's just a serious lack of respect for the medium. These people wouldn't fair any better reading comics because when they tune into Daredevil and get a depressed man's view in his faith and the immorality of killing instead of a slapstick comedy, they'd be like "what the hell is this? This isn't Spiderverse, where's the cartoon creatures?"
@@billbill6094 Man, now you just got me wanting an adult animation Daredevil movie/series. 🙁 That concept has so much potential in terms of both storytelling and cinematics.
I guess the generation that grew up on anime are finally the ones getting to make the shows! From Arcane to Pantheon to Scavengers Reign, we're getting so spoiled these days :')
@@majormajormajortomadult animation has been a thing for a long time that just hasn't gotten the respect it deserves. The spawn show came out in the 90's even "kid" shows pushed the envelope, Batman, Gargoyles, Static Shock all had adult themes.
@@seevideonow yeah, I would definitely say that if today is the start of a new diamond age for adult animation, the 90s/ early 2000s were the golden age. Things kinda dried up a little for while in between, if there were any they were very few and far inbetween. I'm glad the frequency now is increasing
Machine Head hiring battle beast to fight invincible is like Kingpin hiring fucking Thanos to beat Daredevil to death. He's so far out of everyone else's league it's hilarious.
Really? The scale is that wide? I'd think it would be like Kingpin hiring Thanos to beat Spider-Man not Daredevil
@David-gj9qr Comparatively speaking Battle Beast is one of the best fighters in the entire universe. Dude can go toe to toe with Viltrumite veterans. Mark is about as much threat to him as an average human is.
@@David-gj9qr Its like how out of depth Universe 7 is against the Uni's who didn't even have to compete in the ToP, and he said ive got money but battle beast has no interest in that, he's just looking for renewed excitement, I think he already ran out of worthy, contender opponents in his own dimension and he now freelances across others just looking for an actual fight, and yes its like, he could definitely give Omni Man a near death run for his money, its said he can actually beat him, I dont know, but what I do know is even if he did win, Omni man would nearly die doing it, same for Battle Beast, he'd get messed up bad if he can win but I feel he might do it with greater ease, less damage if he won, but it would still cost dearly
I swear this exact comment was on another invincible video
@@CheesedCheeseYeah I've seen this comparison multiple times too
Nolan is something like 2500 years old. The 20 years he's had on Earth have been such a small fraction of his life. It's actually kind of amazing that he was changed that much by Mark and Debbie when you consider that.
It's literally like less than ONE PERCENT of his life so far.
That's equivalent to about 80% of one year of a normal human lifespan. So if you live to 100, think about how you'd feel about the previous 292 days.
I think a funny thing about age that a lot of people don't grasp is that no matter how old you are, you still live life one day at a time. The speed of time doesn't change except in hindsight. As you get older you'll definitely start to feel all the years behind you, but an hour is still an hour, a day is still a day.
Nolan may be ancient, but all of that is so far in the past, it's just a jumble of highs and lows that just help shape who he is, it's not an eidetic frame by frame (I assume).
@@Kineticboy2K1 Only sorta though right? You are still imagining what it'd be like to be 100. As I get older the faster last week becomes a blur with other past weeks and the moments that stand out are just the emotionally charged ones over the years. Its easier to recall emotional moments from 20 years ago than it is for me to say remember an average tuesday from last year and the faster days feel like they pass by... in my youth having to wait an hour seemed interminable... now an hour passes and I hardly notice. Its hard to imagine what that feeling would be like after 2500 years. So while I think the time dilation is more extreme in hindsight, it also started impacting my perception of the single day Im living currently and Im not yet 40.
@@notednuance I think the point I was circling was that it shouldn't matter whether you're 25 or 2500, the most important part of your life is the most recently lived bit. I'm 36, so the percentage amounts to about 105 days. If I think about the last 100 days I can recall various things I did and felt, but it's really only the last several weeks that are fresh enough to have any kind of weight for my current day life.
There's plenty of pop culture immortals to draw inspiration from, from LotR elves, to Invincible's own The Immortal. The common thread is that while long lived, they still act moment to moment as if today is the only day they're living.
There's this great movie called "The Man from Earth" that details the life of a "caveman" that just genetically lucked into immortality and all that comes from that. He recalls great swathes of time passing and generally what he did, leading up to modern day where he has accumulated a group of scientist and philosopher friends to reveal his secret to before he moves on to yet another lifetime before the world gets suspicious. It's a beautifully told story that delves deep into the psychology of immortality and colors much of how I feel about this subject.
To be fair, in Omniman's case, most of his life is violent and tumultuous and so his ingrained psychology would be much different compared to a wandering immortal human or magical creature. He's lived a life of brutal tyranny and destruction, so given his turn-around in such a relatively small time-frame speaks to how much he actually deep down wanted a small and unchaotic life, if only for the tiny time his family would be alive. His soul yearns for love and happiness despite his horrible life, and in a lot of ways makes him one of the most tragic characters ever created.
Fun to think about regardless.
He also has a completely alien view on time, mortality, morality, family etc
Our society is based on our lifespans, birth, growing, living, aging, dying. Imagine how different our society would be structured if we didn’t age and die.
8:48 “ There’s no honor in killing insects.” He let them live. He beat them as calculably close to death as possible to make a point and just left.
Battle Beast is Batman 😂
@@TheRandyalexBattle Beast wears Batman as his jock strap
No.
Battle Beast is the same as classic Lady Shiva
absolute chad.
@@TheRandyalex Actually, he's Worf(Michael Dorn).
"For a cartoon this is so graphic"
I can't believe people still think cartoons are only for kids.
Idk how she still fails to realize this. Children were not the intended audience here. It's just as graphic as it needs to be.
I actually think this is just as graphic as it can be thanks to the fact that it is cartoon
Came here to say this exact thing
Another thing is that these series can be this graphic because they are cartoons, anime etc.
A live action show just can’t do it to the same level.
Yeah, this mindset has kept us from getting great adaptions of books that can’t really be properly translated into live action without spending millions on cgi.
Omni-man started off as a heartless, ruthless conqueror when he first came to Earth undercover. He never lost the ruthless part, but in the midst of those 17 years he unwittingly gained a heart, kind of like the tin man of Oz. And Nolan just didn’t realize how much he had changed until it was too late
More than that, he was almost upset that his son got powers precisely because he loved his family and wanted to live out the rest of their lives like they already were. What's a 50-100 year waiting period before conquering the planet in the scope of a species that lives thousands of years? Even if he capped out at 5k, a century would still be a small fraction of his entire life, and nobody back on Viltrum would notice. It explains why he didn't think he valued human life too. He doesn't hate or have any ill will toward humans. He just thinks of them as cheap and expendable no different than we think of insects (that'll be ironic later if you don't already know). He's wrong, but it makes sense. Mark gaining his powers sped up the time table before he was ready because he was hoping and expecting to outlive his family and most of his friends before he outright moved against Earth. He didn't expect to make friends and fell in love, but instead of working through his internal dilemma, he ignored it and put it off for as long as possible with a really poorly thought out plan in hopes that he wouldn't have to confront the issue until Mark unintentionally forced his hand.
@@Tyler_W Also, Viltrum is not going to complain about the time table because of who Omni is.
Omni was just dating around for awhile. Met someone. They got serious. Got married. She got pregnant. Meanwhile he’s supposed to be conquering the Earth. Viltrum management must be really easy going about deadlines.
heavy spoilers *WARNING*
Nolan - omni man- has "human-like" feelings compared to the others viltrumites because HE IS the son of the REAL KING of the viltrumites that died during the viltrumite wars.. they killed him because they wanted more power and they wanted to expand and own the universe.
@@alejandronunez7650 Thanks for the decent spoiler warning with a big chunk o' space between...but I read it anyway, ahhh kind of makes sense now. Cheers!!
The “head on” edit is LEGENDARY 🤣💀
Editor definitely on point! XD
Part of the point of Invincible is setting up common superhero tropes and themes and then deconstructing them. The further into the story you get, the more unique and compelling aspects you get.
exactly this...she'll be missing most of the point by just watching the 1st season
I think it makes a difference if you are familiar with comics directly, or if you are familiar with comics through the MCU. Only knowing comics through the MCU means you are seeing a version that's already been pre-adapted for a mainstream audience.
I almost wouldn't even call it a deconstruction because it isn't critiquing it like The Boys is. Idk if this is the term, but it's more of a reconstruction.
@@mcnateryou can definitely infer enough from the first season, but it's an excellent point that most of the story covered in season 1 is basically the prologue. Beyond hearing about a vague conflict between the Viltrumite Empire and the Coalition of Planets, anybody who hasn't read the comics or didn't spoil it for themselves still have almost no idea where this story is going.
@@Tyler_W yeah maybe reconstructive, definitely subversion
The "Robot" inside the pod, isn't a clone, that's the original Rudy, how he was born.
Looking back at it Rudy should've saw the opportunity to get Mark's blood and got a Viltrumite body instead.
@@John-to2fd he wanted that Rex rizz. Dude is playing girls left and right and also thought Monster Girl was kinda attracted to him.
@@John-to2fd I think that's what they're setting up, remember the GDA still has marks blood.
@@zionzzz3699 I guess Rudy also recorded the twins entire process, so he could make a new clone himself I'm sure.
@@John-to2fdspoilers!
He does that in an alternate timeline with our mark to control the viltrum empire
Animation is just another medium that can be any genre just like live action. There can be horror, action, drama, romance, etc. Don't go into every animated TV show or movie expecting comedy.
Omni Man calls his wife a pet because she's only going to live for a few years compared to him. We love our pets, but we know we're (probably) going to outlive them by a large margin. We mentally prepare ourselves for that fact so we're not completely debilitated by grief when they die. Omni Man simply can't invest all his feelings into a relationship that will be over in the blink of an eye.
It doesn't mean that's ok lol.
@@Mads97415 Never claimed it was
So wait did Debbie know he was a supe from the time they got together or did he tell her some time into their relationship? Bc if he did that then holy shit that's fcked up
@@Mads97415no, it isn't, but it makes sense and doesn't come from a place of bad intentions, even if it does lead him to do really bad things.
@@StevieMcKenna10she knew exactly what he told Mark growing up, that he was an alien who came from an alien world to help humanity. I think they even met while he was on the job and might have even convinced him to try to live a normal life.
The fact Nolan was able to have the change of heart that he did is pretty significant. He's had centuries, if not thousands of years of Viltrum Indoctrination, making him a brutally effective soldier, yet his 20 years on Earth would have been a blink of the eye for him, and it was still able to affect him as much as it did.
Seriously. People get caught up on him killing people on earth and being mean to debbie. Dude is thousands of years old and has genocided countless planets.
It's not trying to be a comedy. The fact that it does something different from many animated series is what makes it not as boring and predictable as many of them are. Edits were just amazing this episodel Can't wait to see what you think of season 2.
Aside from the more graphic ckntent, it's more of a return to what action cartoons used to be in the 90s and 00s (The DCAU is the prime example, even ATLA too, although it tried to toe the line between action and comedy). We just haven't seen nearly as many of them over the last decade or so with rare exception. We still got them, but the period of 2008 to about 2012 is when whatever action cartoons we got were very quickly cancelled before their time for really stupid reasons, and they largely got replaced by a bunch of cheap, lowest common denominator comedies that tried to be the next Adventure Time or Regular Show while failing to get what people actually liked about it. The only prominent action/drama cartoons of any real quality that we had from 2012 when most of the existing ones were killed of and the release of Incincible 9-10 years later was Legend of Korra (but even that didn't go unscathed), Star Wars Rebels (which also dabbled in slapstick comedy early in its run), Castlevania (which Nat should totally watch), Love, Death, & Robots, Gendy Tartokovsky's Primal (another great action series she should try), and the revivals of Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Samurai Jack, and Young Justice (Star Wars: Bad Batch and Arcane came out not long after Invincible season 1 did). Seems like a lot, but relative to how many more comedy cartoons we had in that time or even action/comedies like Rick & Morty and TMNT 2012, That's not a lot. Say what you want about streaming, but it saved the action drama cartoon from near extinction.
Yep. She's prejudiced (as are many Americans) to thinking that animated automatically means comedy/light-hearted. NOT THE CASE here.
When she was talking about the juxtaposition of comedy moments between the serious moments it reminded me of One Piece haha😅on how it can go from making you gitty with joy and then shatter your heart the next moment. She would probably love OP maybe she'll watch the live action someday.
Idk how she continually doesn't see a difference between this and other hero media, while also expecting it to be a comedy bit. The MCU "well that just happened" humor ruins people's brains.
It baffles me that people still think animation is solely meant for comedy and lightheartedness. Like how can u watch invincible and the whole time think, “when is the comedy coming?” That’s like not enjoying a horror movie because there wasn’t enough action scenes. Like tf? Animation isn’t a genre, it’s a medium. I really hope people can see that some day.
The second half of season 1 is such a roller coaster of a set of episodes. It's amazing.
So true, and this is low stakes compared to where it's going, bith for the world at large and for the characters on an interpersonal level.
As someone who grew up with an abusive dad, the finale of season one hit me so hard. When Nolan says ‘What will you have after 500 years” as a bloodied defeated Mark just says “You, dad”, really took me back to childhood of how I tried so desperately to show my dad I loved him despite the terrible things he’d done. Nolan’s entire speech during the fight scene felt so incredibly real in a way no other film or show that’s about domestic violence never actually gets right. The condescending tone, the superiority complex, Nolan very much so felt like a true to life depiction of a man living a double life and taking it out on his family. With my dad, it was him cheating on my mum that triggered his violence. Clearly there’s depth to Nolan which is evident in season one and more so in season two and what little I know about the comics there’s so much more to come, but the layers he has really shows the complexity in abusive fathers/husbands and how their own self hatred is what leads to them hurting those that love them. It’s really heartbreaking watching it and having all those flashbacks as well as relating so much to Mark. I’ve seen so many things about abusers, same with my sisters and my mum and we’ve all said nothing has gotten it right, but one of my sisters and my mum watched this and we all agreed it depicts it all perfectly. Other people will have different experiences, but that sense of fear, worthlessness, but also the love you still have and the hope they’ll change, it’s all present here. For me even after my dad went to prison, despite hating him, I still saw him and sought his approval desperately. It’s like I always felt incomplete because my dad didn’t love me. It’s only now as a man I realise he probably did love me, but the hatred he has for himself and his traumas made him cruel. If I knew these comics existed when I was younger, I would’ve gotten some much needed therapy. Instead it was characters like Wolverine in the comics, animation and films that I related to.
16:05 "You can fix this, if you tell her why" - oh dear summer child.
It is a commonly accepted theory that Omni didn't want Mark to get his powers, because if he didn't he would live and die a normal human with a normal life-span, wich is nothing to viltrumites, so he could wait for Debbie and Mark to die of old age and then he could continue his mission, but when he heard mark got his powers, then there's nothing he could do anymore, he now had to continue his plans, so he started by killing the guardians
Nolan not helping Mark in that fight against BB is honestly the best case scenario. Lol
If you know, you know :")
Why? Is battle beast stronger than nolan?
Nah that’s bb pre boost
If he wasn't quite good enough to hack it, Mark needed a good beating in order to get stronger and more durable, and he tipped off Cecil to make sure he didn't get killed. Rough and cold treatment, but you can see how he would view it as tough love.
BB would have stayed to kill Nolan or die against him.
Nat, you can't have the drama without the baseline. You have to establish the characters and invest in their relationships. Otherwise, the shocks won't land, the twists won't turn, and the drama will feel hollow.
Which is also the point of Superheroes past 1939, character was first and foremost. Before then heroes would come in a costume, kick some ass, then disappear without an ounce of characterization to them.
That "clone" in the pod is the real robot. The robot form is how he interacts with the world. Him going into the Rex clone is so he can have an actual functioning body.
The parallel of his tooth missing in the flashback and then showing him currently was so good
I read somewhere that the reason Nolan was acting so weird in the first episode when Mark told his parents that he got his powers was because Nolan was hoping Mark wouldn't get his powers at all so he could just wait for Debbie and Mark to die of old age and then take over Earth for the Viltrumites
That makes so much sense
That is the reason.
Also, spoiler:
Nolan was essentially given 500 years to be the ruler of Earth. So, he essentially decided to spend 100 years or so living as Omni-Man until Mark and Debbie died.
37:54 Not just a comic. It’s regarded as the best superhero comic ever by most people who read it from start to finish. It has a perfect beginning and end for all characters, so you’re in for a treat
I completely agree, to me it's not a generic superhero comic it's the absolute best the genre has to offer even with a couple storylines i think it could do without and I hope aren't included in the series. For those that know i'm talking about the part where Mark goes to a cave and meets a big ball of gas, leading to things changing for him back home
@@mattew0113 I know exactly what you’re talking about
In a lot of ways, I consider Mark Grayson to be the true spiritual successor to Peter Parker/Spider-Man, to the promise of his concept as a relatable human character. Whenever I pitch anyone on Invincible, I sell as "What if Peter Parker became Superman and was thrown into a Dragon Ball story."
@@Tyler_W Indeed. Peter Parker, but if the character’s sense of morality was still developing as the story goes on, and if superhero work finally was displayed realistically, both the pretty and the ugly sides of it, which has never been done before. Might be too long for a sales pitch, but I think it’s worth noting
@@Tyler_WThere's a reason they hang out canonically so
"evil buff furry daddy got hands"
Editor starting the Sides Space Program.
that part cracked me up lol
Based on your description of Animation at the end, I highly recommend The Legend of Vox Machina. Season one is a bit of finding their footing, but by season 2, they do a great balance of comedy and drama. And with all the source material the creators of that show have to work from, it and the other campaign that follows will just get better and better.
Thanks again for doing some animation!
It would be so awesome if she did the Legend of Vox Machina
I actually liked season one more than the second but loved both all the same, also seconding this as a recommendation that shows rockin
I'll add a ditto to this. I think you'd like it.
Vox is fucking hilarious and Nat is a great humorist and laugher so yes, fully agree
She should if anything watch more animation with less comedy, it seems currently she can't appreciate any of the serious aspects of a story if it's told through animation. Give her a more comedic show amd doubtful her preconceptions will change.
I agree with the surface level stuff, but I believe its intentional to show character development from the aspect of mark's monotonous human life with the contrast of the power of his dad and coming to terms with having his powers kick in late. This season is just a small tip of the iceberg and really just setting the foundation for mark and the rest of the story moving forward, showing how mark is grasping with being a normal human to becoming super and how much work he needs to do. Keep in mind, Mark is "Invincible" yet this whole season he has gotten his ass handed to him and is not only supposed to protect his planet from his own father(who is thousands of times stronger than mark) but the entire viltrum empire as well! I hope you continue the series because it is more fleshed out, better writing and animation production and a lot of passion in season 2. I kind of see season 1 as a "pilot season" and for a pilot, shows a lot of promise and so far they have been delivering in season 2!
Second season is fantastic so far
In episode 1, everyone thinks Nolan and Viltrumites are analogous to Superman and Kryptonians but by episode 8 we realize the analogy is closer to Vegeta and Saiyans
Nat if there’s one slept on movie you have to watch for the one time it would be Chronicle!!!!
Love Chronicle, time for a rewatch!
Chronicle would be awesome to see someone react to
Oh yeah that's a good one
I don’t know why, but “crows, evacuate” really made me laugh 😂😂
Same lol
THANK YOU for literally being the first reactor ive watched who calls out Ambers behaviour instead of blaming it all on mark.
Nah, watch StruggleNation's reaction. They hate her with a passion lol
I mean I said first one I watched not only one.
I watched the reaction compilations by Johnny O’Dell and most of the reactors agreed that she was tripping, if you wanna see more 👆
@@uhohmykokoro1616 cool but I'm not really keen to play your game of gotcha simply because I commented on what I've seen in the roughly half dozen I've watched.
Amber's behavior: has one irrational argument after trying to give her pretty much dumped bf a second chance as a 17 y.o., officially breaks up with her bf after months of legitimate grievances. The entire audience: Damn how toxic, she should've thrown herself into his arms, I can't believe a teen girl in an absentee relationship wouldn't forget everything as soon as he had a _truthful_ excuse for why she never gets an actual relationship from her boyfriend.
Like I swear everyone loves Amber until the main character feels bad, as if she didn't feel like ish for months, from date number 1. It's protagonist bias, same reason people hate Skyler White for not liking Walt killing and almost getting her family killed multiple times, promising each time it was the last, because her having her own perspective of wanting out of the danger threatens to ruin the "fun" adventures of the protagonist.
Y'all act like Amber was gaslighting and abusing my man when the most severe action she took was not staying in a relationship she had _zero_ obligation or even incentive to be in. Was the final blow irrational? Absolutely. Was the months of absentee behavior that led to it irrational? No. Y'all accept that when Mark can't just come clean or make a clean break from Amber when he's hurting her was the result of him being an inexperienced 17 y.o. boy, but when it comes to Amber those considerations are tossed aside.
I'm literally the only one who doesn't think Titian is an absolute villain. EVERYBODY seems to ignore that he took his business and literally implied doing better for the community with Machinehead's resources. Yes, he took a criminal's resources, yes he abandoned Mark to go for his family instead. Anti-hero? Sure. Villain? No different from Punisher + Luke Cage. It's literally based on a Luke Cage story in the comics that the show only touched in the last episode of season 2 when he...
[SPOILERS]
...literally takes Cottonmouth's organization.
At least titan has a family, so there’s SOME reasoning for why he did it. But it was severely out of left field when Luke Cage did it 😂
I love the way you censored all of this, absolutely stellar editing.
Cameron is killing it with the inserts. That commercial and Uno reverse were "chef's kiss".
Omg that head-on edit got me so good 😂 💀
Shame that you can't disassociate animation from comedy.
The first season is full of superhero tropes. A lot of the jokes were awkward and fell flat to make fun of those stereotypes. It definitely feels surface level in the beginning. There's deeper conversations later on. The fun thing is it transitions so much. The series grows with its characters. It gets so much better. A lot of themes, while intense, are well written in the comics. Situations that apply to real world problems. It has a lot to offer I hope the show continues to do it justice.
One of the main things I love about the Invincible comics, is that it is one of the few superhero stories that has an end. It's comic run is Mark's complete superhero story.
From getting his powers, to his life 500 years in the future.
"What will you have in 5000 years?"
A lot, Mark will have lot.
Just what a freaking awesome show and this whole cast did such an amazing job!
Nothing is wrong with Nolan's brain; he was bleeding because those two satellites powerful blast, and that's it.
Now you know why Nolan didn't help Mark when he was watching him fight and called the Guardians of the Globe. His goal is to weaken the earth; that's why he killed the first members of the team and then called the second ones so they would die too.
I guess the Vultrimites knew when to stop because everyone that died died from one hit, so those were weak, and everyone else that survived could take multiple hits because of how durable they were, so those were strong and that's when they stopped.
And the Guardians of the Globes couldn't do anything to Omni Man, they would've died. That's why Black Samson said, "We can't stop this fight, but we can save lives."
32:00 Most people miss this, but yeah, he acted weird because he was waiting for Debbie and Mark to die from old age because Mark's powers haven't kicked in, so he was waiting. When Mark told him that he finally had his powers, he knew that Mark would live for thousands of years, so now he needed to begin his job of weakening the earth.
oh wow, i never thought of it that way. i always thought he didn't intervene because this was mark's first test as a "worthy" combatant and a measure of his power. like he didn't care to join either way, but wanted to watch is son develop the necessary growing pains of learning how to fight legitimate opponents (ie, Battle Beast)
@@loot5532even if he intervened, omni man cant beat battle beast
Omni-Man didn't call in the new Guardians of the Globe, Isotope did as per Titan's instructions.
@@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps Yeah, because Isotope knows Cecil and his number….😆
As far as I remember, Titan never told Isotope anything about Guardians of the Globe. It was Omni Man.
@@reynaldolorenzo8409 _"Yeah, because Isotope knows Cecil and his number…."_
I guess the cops just alert the Guardians when it's about Invincible being beat on by a small army of supervillains.
_"As far as I remember, Titan never told Isotope anything about Guardians of the Globe. It was Omni Man."_
IIRC the ending of the episode has Titan or Isotope say otherwise. EDIT: I just checked and that is not the case. Maybe I'm thinking of the comic or maybe they just don't go into who made the call.
*Some recommendations for adult animated movies and shows:*
- _Perfect Blue_
- _Paprika_
- _Princess Mononoke_
- _Grave of the Fireflies_
- _Bojack Horseman_
- _Hazbin Hotel_
- _Akira_
- _Ghost in the Shell_
- _Anomalisa_
- _Persepolis_
- _Ninja Scroll_
- _Barefoot Gen_
- _Attack on Titan_
- _Loving Vincent_
Perfect blue would mess her up!
Add blue eye samurai to that list
Hazbin Hotel with them "sex" scenes.
Natalie: Wow this is pretty graphic for a cartoon.
The editing in the baseball flashback is so well done, I laughed at the X-files glove
I love this show so much 😭
I love watching Invincible reactions, but I always cringe when it gets to the reveal that Amber already knew Mark was a superhero.
It's so incredibly out of place because none of her previous actions match up with that--they match up with her comic book version, who *didn't* know that Mark was a superhero. Then, the show writers just pull this change out of thin air, for the sake of a pointless twist.
THANK YOU Nat for being one of the rare few that can tell that Amber's hella toxic sometimes... Personally I'm team Eve. She has her baggages but she's honest about herself and others, and doesn't just throw it on Mark like Amber does and then comes back later when it's convenient for HER.
100%
Amber is a kind gal and she wants good things for others and herself but she is a typical fourth wave feminist.
She comes from the perspective that her ideology and way of perceiving the world is correct and has taken a position of entitlement.
Couldn't stand her at first whatsoever.
But I cut her some slack now because she's basically still a kid.
@@thedappermagician6905 First up, don't blame Amber's bad traits on her being a feminist. Jesus christ. Secondly, she may not be right in the big picture, but emotions aren't logical. Mark did lie to her, for weeks. Was Mark right to lie? Absolutely. But the brain isn't logical. He still hurt her, and she's valid for being upset by that.
5:20 The mitosis made me laugh way harder than it should've
Nolan Grayson is basically the depiction of General Zod if he had a family and controlled his inhibitions and goals for a while.
Seeing Natalie have the same dislike for amber as the rest of the fanbase puts a smile on my face
Same. Literally same. That choice for the creators to make her respond like that was bs
That’s when I immediately liked this video 😂😂
@@krispin3509 It's not just that. That would just make Amber a shitty person. It's the fact that the show itself acts like Mark was in the wrong.
@@austinmozer4638 Robert Kirkman said himself they fucked up on that portion of the show. In the comics Amber was a pretty thin character and they wanted to change it by adding more depth. But they fucked up on the dialogue at the end and admitted he wish he could rewrite the show.
@@SubzeroBlack68 yeah, thats why she had such a tone shift in season 2. i wish more people knew that fact
16:06 Exactly! With the baggage and continual drama she was dumping on Mark - WHEN she already knew...!
She should have been 100% supportive instead of whining. Mark saving people's lives while risking his own - is above going out dates!
Woo! Awesome day with a new Invincible reaction from Natalie!!
I appreciate the speed at which you upload content. I am very grateful for the steady stream of entertainment.
Trust me season 2 will be crazy.
Not sure if you noticed that Nolan cried as he was leaving Earth. *Omni-Man was telling the truth when he said his life on Earth felt like a speck of time for him.* Viltrumites live for an EXTREMELY long time. I could be remembering this wrong, but I think a clue dropped at one point when Omni-Man said "he remembered something from yesterday" and Debbie corrected him saying "that happened years ago".
I believe episode 1 Omni-Man was hoping that both Debbie and Mark would die of old age and never find out his true mission on Earth. Once Mark got his powers, Nolan knew it meant he couldn't wait for Mark to "age out". Therefore, Nolan had to stop his little "vacation" and get back to work conquering Earth.
The TV show screenwriters really fumbled the ball when they re-structured the Amber story line. They wound up making all the characters involved in the scenes look inorganically bad, especially Amber.
Unlike the comic book version, TV Amber is no longer a legitimate character. She is an unbelievable inorganic caricature used solely to drive an ideological narrative. When characters interact with Amber, they too become unbelievable, inorganic, and flawed tools of poor writing.
*SIDEBAR SPECULATION ON VILTRUMITE AGING AND WHY DEBBIE WOULD FEEL LIKE A PET:*
To give a perspective of time for Omni-Man: When Omni-Man crushed Red Rush's head, it lasted less than a second but felt like hours to Red Rush. Omni-Man has the opposite problem. According to Comic Vine, no Viltrumite is ever stated to pass the mark of 100,000 years old. Most average around 80,000 years - give or take.
If we can assume the "time ratio relative feeling" and the ratio of a Vitrumite living to 80,000 years to a human living to 80 years.
80,000 yrs / 80 yrs = a factor of 1,000
Same factor ratio by human standards - 80 years / 1,000 = 0.08 year
Since 1 year = 365 days
0.08 x 365 days = 29.2 days
So assuming the time ratio relative feeling - 80 years to a Viltrumite feels approximately like 29.2 days to a human. Debbie was already an adult when Nolan met her. Her entire life would feel like a mini vacation to him. It was Debbie's short lifespan that made her feel more like a "pet" to Nolan.
I'm glad Nat is honest about her opinion of the show. Too often reactors play it up for the content and she's just being real. I can appreciate that animation as a serious and visceral storytelling medium isn't for everyone.
they ruined amber in that episode, just the day befiore she was aksing "who is that" when invincible was on the campus, the all of a sudden she's known for weeks
She could just be talking shit. Plus she said she knew he was a super hero, not specifically invincible
@@jamiejones20 so she's smart enough to figure out he's a superhero but not the one with the exact hairstyle as him who conveniently shows up when mark dissappears? Just stop bruh lmfaooo
I’m so glad you jumped on the Amber hatred train with us. Mark absolutely deserves better.
Spoiler:
He should be with Eve she’s perfect in every way!
“You dad, I’d still have you”, one of the most emotionally gut punching lines I have ever heard in my life!
I watch most of your reaction videos and in my opinion this was one of your better ones so I hope you continue with this series.
Cartoon Amber is insufferable. Her comic counterpart is a little cliche at first, but it’s the way the comic handles their split as being a healthy mutual thing and keeping a friendship afterward that makes it great.
Kirkman admitted they dropped the ball when adapting Amber for the show. She wasn't supposed to come across so negatively. He said Amber realizing Mark was Invincible on her own and holding it against him was a mistake.
Yea in the comic she isn't mean, they just aren't right for each other, and they realize it.
Amber is awful in the show, William is annoying in both
@@joshuaholland5279
To be fair, she wasn't as insufferable in the second season.
16:29 - RIGHT?!! God that Girl was probably the worst part of the show. She's entitled and annoying!
What does she feel she's entitled to? A relationship from her boyfriend? Can't feel too entitled since she broke it up when she didn't get one. If anything Invincible is the entitled one, he _knew_ Amber had essentially already broken up with him, he was _never_ there for her, then thought a final reveal made everything before that ok and she would stay with him. He wants a girlfriend without wanting the relationship, her being "annoying" is protagonist bias. Can't stand to see Mark getting chastised for missing every important date with her, even when those grievances are well founded. Hero or not, even had she known from the beginning what exactly does it change?
@@billbill6094 Lol She gets mad at Mark for saving the world she’s a hypocrite
she got better in season 2 but I don't care actually I don't care about anything I'm just here to watch
@@billbill6094she got better in season 2 but I don't care actually I don't care about anything I'm just here to watch
I appreciate you and thank you for making content.
Okay, I'm watching through and at the next to last episode, and your editor is doing incredible work coming up with gags to cover the censored parts. Just knocking it out of the park. John Wilkes Booth eat your heart out indeed.
In the comics Amber's character has always been for Mark to realize he's meant for someone better.
YES!
THANK you for seeing through the BS writing of Amber in these episodes.
The fun part is that the story covered in season 1 is basically the prologue. Nobody who hasn't read the 144 issue comic series has almost no idea where this is going. There are a few more major players to introduce at the beginning of season 2, but when the plot really hits its stride, things are gonna get super crazy. If you're still into it, there has been an Atom Eve standalone episode that came out late last summer, Season 2 ran its first half last autumn, and it's coming back to wrap up the rest of the season on a weekly schedule in the middle of March. If you intend to continue, you wouldn't be able to finish season 2 until April anyway. It's definitely intended to be an action/scifi drama, not a comedy, but it does and will continue to have some levuty here and there as characters get to know each other more. The character relationships, the way it reworks superhero tropes, and the escalating stakes are what I think are really great about this story. As much as I love Invincible, Omni-Man really is the most complex character there. I think this did a great job showing how he's wrestling over his conflicting feelings about his life-changing experiences on Earth with his family and his Viltrumite indoctrination, so a lot of what he says is tryung to convince humself as such as he's trying to convince Mark. I think you'll really appreciate how Mark grows as a character too.
The editing of both of these videos is really on point. Kudos to the editor
Awesome reaction of my favorite episode of Invincible!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
This just got uploaded 😭😭😭
you literally commented this the minute it released.....
Attack on Titan is a show that has a lot of twists and turns that balances horror/mystery elements while also having its fair share of comedic moments. Every time a question is answered, even more pop up. Highly recommend.
Only 6 minutes in and the editing is popping OFF. Love it
i love the editing during the fight scenes sm XD
Immediately with the editing 😂 head on, apply directly to the forehead!
JUST one word GRAVITY FALLS .........patreon make it happen
that or Over the Garden Wall.
The Greatest animated show ever
@@mcnaterFor me my top 3 ATLA, GRAVITY FALLS and AMAZING WORLD OF GUMBALL.
Been waiting for this!!!
One of the greatest seasons of TV IMO!
4:54 Just a little interesting bit of info about Battle Beast. He is the strongest fighter in the Invincible universe 😂 He roams around the galaxy looking for a worthy battle. Yes, he’s way stronger than Nolan
2nd strongest behind Thragg
Please give a SPOILERS warning first. Also, there is zero indication that Nolan knows BB at all here.
@@dunringill1747 That’s not a spoiler. His power levels are evident, and he already said in the episode that he’s looking for a worthy opponent. It’s also irrelevant if Nolan knows BB or not, not sure why you brought it up
@@tmac731 Battle Beast handicapped himself in that fight
@@diegopansini3152 exactly to level the playing field since Thragg was already injured
WHAT WILL YOU HAVE AFTER 500 YEARS!?
Hopefully Episodes 5, 6, 7, and 8 of Season 2
The transition from little mark missing a tooth to bloody pulp teenage Mark was NEFARIOUS
I think the reveal that Amber knew Mark's identity breaks the character, and imo is what makes her so hated.
Up until this point she was confrontational, sure, but not without reason. I think it's perfectly understandable for someone to be pissed when their partner regularly misses important events, breaks promises, etc. She could be pretty aggressive, but not in a way that made her a bad person or anything.
Then they did the reveal... I really think the writers just did it to have a sort of "gotcha" moment for Amber, without realizing what the consequences of that would be. Without realizing that it completely invalidates all of her anger, and makes a perfectly understandable character incomprehensible. Because now you can take any case of her being upset with Mark, and realize that it no longer makes any sense. When Mark disappeared during the fight with the cyborgs it originally made sense for her to be upset, as from her perspective her bf just hightailed it out of there, completely abandoning her amidst the chaos. But now... what's she upset about? That Mark saved the day? There's literally no angle to view it from that makes it make sense.
Imo it's clear that they didn't write these events with the knowledge that Amber knows Mark's identity, and that the big reveal was something they added in, in the moment, to give Amber a badass gotcha, not realizing the implications of that decision. So a single writing decision, one without much foresight, single-handedly ruined an entire character,
"you dad; I'll still have you".
No matter how many times I see that scene, it still gets to me.
Also, you skipped my favorite scene, when Cecil confronts Omniman in the desert and teleports to dodge him.
everybody hates Amber
No matter how many times I see that series of revelations in ep. 8 from watching reactions it never gets easier to get through. It's STILL an emotional gut punch.
16:27 Welcome Natalie to the debate that has been going on since Invincible first aired. So glad to see you're on the right side =)
Nobody ever understands the Titan reveal. He's not a liar or a scumbag. He used Mark to become the new kingpin so that he could root out crime from the inside.
To be fair with Rudy, that sorta thing happens all the time in superhero universes. Hell, you saw Logan. Sometimes you just get cloned. You can either have an existential crisis or be happy you got a free kidney or 2 if you need one.
Spoiler:
If I had a nickel for every time Rudy cloned a hero and transferred his mind into it I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice
lol that Head On edit was great. I’m loving the little bits of humor being edited into your videos.
been waiting for this.
16:09 She knew and yet she was there with crocodile tears yelling at him for "abandoning" them when he was right there fighting to protect them. Comic Amber > cartoon Amber.
Comic Amber wasn't even really a character, she was more just a prop.
Exactly and there’s people actually defending her
She was probably just frustrated by the fact that her boyfriend was continuously lying to her face after she gave him MULTIPLE opportunities to tell the truth and trust her. He made this whole point about wanting to do better and then immediately lies to her face. She's completely justified in her frustration/anger
@@Altanese A supportive and understanding prop is better than a manipulative gaslighter being portrayed as a victim.
@@brainrot8802 Secret. Superhero. Identity. He's not lying about seeing another girl or stealing from her. "How dare you save my life but not give me all the details" is such an entitled stance to take.
FUN FACT: Amber is the main villain
here yall go
No she ain't tf
Lol I get the meme and I understand why people don’t like her character, but I really don’t get all the hate. I think it’s just poor writing. I think it’s just an oversight. Don’t get me wrong, invincible is one of my favorite shows, but everyone makes mistakes and I think her character arc was just a hindsight thing so I really don’t get all the hate for her character.
Incorrect, racist, and ignorant....
I think she's kind of an incompatible GF, but she gets more hate than she should for that exact reason
I need season 2 now!
I really recommend you watching the Atom Eve Special before watching the second season. It's a pretty great backstory on her character.
Natalie. Thank you for being one of the sensible people who agreed that Amber was a b*tch to Mark and that he deserves better.
Oh good lord yes! She is awful 😂
They completely undermine Amber's personality. In the comic book version, she appears much more empathetic and understanding compared to the Prime Video version of Amber.
This version of Amber is more confident and knows what she wants in a relationship, and what she wants is someone who will not lie to her.
The creator do the comic said the show is a chance for him to get everything right that he didn’t like about his comic.
@@Feedback72Funny way of saying "toxic, spiteful manipulative, narcissist who felt she was entitled to knowing a secret identity in a short high school relationship. I'm sure many abusive partners "know what they want in a relationship"..doesn't mean it's a good thing 😂
@M.Novast she didn't feel entitled. She was being lied to. No, she's not owed knowing, but she doesn't deserve nor did she sign up to be lied to. She made that very clear to him before they dated.
@@yoslo6832he shouldn't have "fixed it" because no one likes TV Amber
Justin Roland coming out of the bushes and Nat saying "A monster" is genuinely so god damn funny
So glad she called out Amber's bullshit instead of seeing it as girlbossing (cant forget the reaction to Wandavision), but damn the writers were stupid to make her so different from the comic
Finally a reactor who agrees Amber is annoying and entitled LMAOO
Wdym literally every reactor I've seen agrees she's annoying
Great reaction!
Damn that last episode is so good!
16:06 Honestly, the moment I’ve been waiting for, and I’m so glad she said what every guy was thinking. She said the best thing she could have in a few sentences on what men have to dance around throughout 20-minute video essays.
You have some of the funniest edits 😂
Your reactions are hilarious. However, I want to give props to whoever edits your videos, I love the comedic timing and affects for blurring out blood and gore amazing.