Everyone's Favorite Foreigner

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 19 лют 2024
  • Learn Japanese pitch-accent and pronunciation from my Patreon Series "Japanese Phonetics"
    / dogen
    Dogen / Dōgen / Japanese / 日本語 / Everyone's favorite foreigner / japan will never accept you / Japan is so backwards / I've been in Japan 25 years, OK? / Resentful foreigners
  • Комедії

КОМЕНТАРІ • 402

  • @zlozlozlo
    @zlozlozlo 4 місяці тому +1630

    "I'm not Japanese and I don't accept you either."
    SAVAGE

    • @IdiosyncH
      @IdiosyncH 4 місяці тому +5

      Lolol way too funny 😂😂😂

    • @chrisc7265
      @chrisc7265 4 місяці тому +34

      There's a lot of truth to this, because the people who are always complaining about not being accepted in Japan are generally not accepted outside of Japan either

  • @lusbox4724
    @lusbox4724 4 місяці тому +498

    Dogen flexing that he does infact sleep in the same bed as his wife.

  • @yoanageorgieva3068
    @yoanageorgieva3068 4 місяці тому +634

    "I'm so sorry for your loss" LMAO

    • @borismuller86
      @borismuller86 4 місяці тому +16

      I’m yet to meet a Japanese married couple that sleeps in separate beds. Where are these couples who can afford two beds?

  • @skydex-furu
    @skydex-furu 4 місяці тому +765

    "I'm not Japanese and I don't accept you either."

    • @rociosilverroot2261
      @rociosilverroot2261 4 місяці тому +26

      It's almost like.... Japanese culture isn't the main problem here...

    • @ouui
      @ouui 4 місяці тому

      Such a good quote

  • @ImWhyMortalsCry
    @ImWhyMortalsCry 4 місяці тому +550

    "Are you listening to me?"
    *Unfortunetly*
    xD

    • @kleinerprinz99
      @kleinerprinz99 4 місяці тому +8

      The saying goes like this : I (can) hear you but I'm not listening. You're welcome.

  • @kyle6344
    @kyle6344 4 місяці тому +430

    This is definitely coming from a recent personal experience lol

    • @mourningireland4560
      @mourningireland4560 4 місяці тому +45

      Recent, medium-term and long-term I suspect haha

    • @simonm8221
      @simonm8221 4 місяці тому +40

      It’s quite common in expats communities in Asia I am afraid. But I LOVED how Dogen smashed him. “Goofing around teaching English 😂”…

    • @HerrMustermann
      @HerrMustermann 4 місяці тому +36

      Not just one. These guys are everywhere now. I've had countless such experiences and these guys are exactly like portrayed here. Guaranteed you're gonna find some in these comments too

    • @WaterFruitTree
      @WaterFruitTree 4 місяці тому +14

      Nahhh not recent. There are tens of thousands of these dudes online. Hell, if it's exhausting for me to deal with them on the Internet, I can't imagine what it's like to endure them in real life.

    • @kyle6344
      @kyle6344 4 місяці тому +6

      Of course people like this have existed for decades. I just meant that it felt like there was a recent specific example that sparked him to make this video now (probably not even true).
      Also since I happened to see the video in the first couple minutes of going live I was curious what would happen if I left one of those unoriginal comments like a quote from the video or a surface-level observation. Always amazes me how those always get so many likes

  • @Crackalacking_Z
    @Crackalacking_Z 4 місяці тому +229

    My Japanese is really improving, I understood almost every spoken word!

    • @borismuller86
      @borismuller86 4 місяці тому +26

      日本語上手!

    • @zerofox8756
      @zerofox8756 4 місяці тому +40

      Me too! It practically sounded like English to me!

    • @livedandletdie
      @livedandletdie 4 місяці тому +2

      @@borismuller86rather getting that than, 英語上手.

  • @beyondobscure
    @beyondobscure 4 місяці тому +434

    he harnessed the power of not caring

    • @Hrafnskald
      @Hrafnskald 4 місяці тому +11

      It was super effective! ;)

    • @Maer-si
      @Maer-si 4 місяці тому +6

      Born in it, molded by it

    • @livedandletdie
      @livedandletdie 4 місяці тому

      Dogen is very Japanese in Nature... so much so that he also disdains the foreigners now.

  • @djaypjay373
    @djaypjay373 4 місяці тому +354

    They may not get accepted by the people there, but their nihongo be jouzu 🔥

    • @pokechatter
      @pokechatter 4 місяці тому +9

      This time, it’s that someone’s ability to read the mood isn’t jouzu

    • @Jesse-Karn
      @Jesse-Karn 4 місяці тому +5

      Kinda love/hate the fact that I can understand this comment

    • @borismuller86
      @borismuller86 4 місяці тому +11

      I recently had an Indian guy working in a combini complement my Japanese and I wanted to hug him and say “it’s ok, you don’t have to do that”.

    • @anoakenstaff
      @anoakenstaff 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Jesse-Karn Nihongo jouzuu! 💪🔥

    • @Ray-eo4fm
      @Ray-eo4fm 4 місяці тому

      @@borismuller86 As an Indian, nihongo jouzu desu ne!

  • @iced_p
    @iced_p 4 місяці тому +313

    I think the lesson is that everywhere in the world, people dont accept assholes.

    • @souvikmitra6161
      @souvikmitra6161 4 місяці тому +35

      It's a weird thing how people either worship Japan or outright call it backward minded...when it's just a normal country with its own good and bad...just like most other countries. If anything, it has more good than most, and less bad than most too...just have to understand which is relevant to you before you move there and...be a nice person? Idk.

    • @iced_p
      @iced_p 4 місяці тому +21

      ​@souvikmitra6161 For real yea. The idea that someone can move to Japan and not want to learn everything about their culture and language is insane to me.
      It's a small number, but there's a loud vocal minority of foreigners who complain about problems they make for themselves by not wanting to learn about the new country they live in and to live as a Japanese citizen by learning and partaking in their culture.

    • @DavidCruickshank
      @DavidCruickshank 4 місяці тому +14

      @@souvikmitra6161 It happens with everything idolised. A group of people have an unhealthy positive view of something they shove down people throats, annoyed people retaliate with all the unspoken negative things. Both sides dig in their heels becoming more extreme and unrealistic over time.
      also Japan isn't "more good than most, and less bad than most" It is a normal country no better or worse than any other first world democracy.

    • @livinlicious
      @livinlicious 4 місяці тому

      If you honestly believe Japan is just like "one of the boys", you are either in denial or delusional.
      There is not a single western country even approaching the xenophobia of Japan or other Asian countries.
      The west is the anomaly. Xenophobia and xenohate is the norm.
      Tolerance? Most places (Japan included) don't know what you are even talking about. Intolerance is not a choice, it's a way of life in most places. Especially Asia.

    • @dramotarker1352
      @dramotarker1352 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@DavidCruickshank Even amongst first world democracies, people are allowed to think certain countries are more pleasant to live in than others.
      You won't have the same experience living in the US and living in Finland just because they're "first world democracies", there's _so_ many other differences than just that.
      Obviously different people will think different countries are better, because "better" is subjective, not objective. The person you replied to clearly has the *subjective* opnion that Japan is better than most other countries. Others might think Japan is worse than other countries, and some people like you will think "It's about the same". You're allowed to think that, but you almost seemed perplexed at the fact that other people will disagree with you on that. There's no reason to be confused, people are allowed to think certain things are better than others.

  • @LVCIVS-AETERNVS
    @LVCIVS-AETERNVS 4 місяці тому +65

    "I'm not Japanese and I don't accept you either."
    EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!

    • @Marewig
      @Marewig 4 місяці тому +1

      My brain immediately chimed up with "FATALITY" at that part.

  • @sarahn.h355
    @sarahn.h355 4 місяці тому +68

    Happened with my husband when he was deployed to Japan. All of the locals were nice to my husband and always were welcoming because he was genuinely curious and loved being there. A lot of his American coworkers were like the annoying guy and had no sense of adventure.
    My husband hates them too lol

    • @handofstranger
      @handofstranger 4 місяці тому

      Vagina!!

    • @lilacrimosa
      @lilacrimosa 4 місяці тому +2

      Bruh my younger sister got to live in Okinawa with her deployed husband for 3 years. I wanted to visit her but of course Covid hit so it was impossible. Then i find out the entire time she's there she didn't care to learn the language ;_; Said they "say so much just to say so little" and i was like WTF? You can say the same thing about english lmfao, some things are shorter in Japanese.
      she did make friends sort of with some of her Japanese coworkers at a coffee shop apparently but yeah.. I'm jealous. I doubt I'll ever get to do more than visit japan, I have 3 pets that will probably be in my life until I'm 40 so I can't just up and move there like a college student might. And after that, I'll probably be too old lmao

  • @Wedgehog
    @Wedgehog 4 місяці тому +172

    r/japanlife in a video

    • @HerrMustermann
      @HerrMustermann 4 місяці тому +38

      This - is too accurate. That is the worst subreddit possible. Luckily these people don't represent the average person living in Japan

    • @fourthpanda
      @fourthpanda 4 місяці тому +19

      ​@@HerrMustermann And yet they portray it like they are the ONLY ones. It's frustrating to cling to the idea that there are in fact normal fucking people living in Japan but I just gotta believe it's true!! Cause the alternative scares me...

    • @user-gi6db4bw2o
      @user-gi6db4bw2o 4 місяці тому +5

      @@HerrMustermann We must be grateful to them, so the willing ones go to japan and crying ppl stay home. I see this as a massive W

    • @NationX
      @NationX 4 місяці тому +1

      Oh my god I’ve never seen a better video description in my life 😂

    • @akaRyuka
      @akaRyuka 4 місяці тому

      Omg hahahahha true

  • @JapanDayTripper
    @JapanDayTripper 4 місяці тому +950

    I've found that the people complaining about Japan not accepting them oddly enough seem to have issues with their home countries not accepting them either! Unrelated I'm sure.

    • @PC_Simo
      @PC_Simo 4 місяці тому +65

      That’s probably, why they moved to Japan, in the first place 😅.

    • @Shannovian
      @Shannovian 4 місяці тому +77

      Meh, as someone who has lived in a few countries, the one thing doesn't really have anything to do with the other. Different countries have different cultures and just because you fit in well with one doesn't mean you universally fit in. Yeah, a lot of people leave their home country because they don't fit in. It's not a bad thing to look for a place you can belong.
      And if it is as you say, making fun of someone who can't belong to any country is just cruel.

    • @MonographicSingleheadedM-sp2wk
      @MonographicSingleheadedM-sp2wk 4 місяці тому

      So true 😂

    • @HouseMDaddict
      @HouseMDaddict 4 місяці тому +48

      Yup! Especially the ones that are like "wow I'm super weird and inappropriate let me go to Japan where they'll accept me". Uh...NO fam, that's not going to fly ANYWHERE in the world.

    • @riverdays364
      @riverdays364 4 місяці тому

      Anyone can go to America and say they're American. No one can go to Japan and say they're Japanese.

  • @wzdew
    @wzdew 4 місяці тому +132

    Of all the things Sam could be insecure about in a gym, he chose this.

  • @TheNewGreenIsBlue
    @TheNewGreenIsBlue 4 місяці тому +22

    When you live in any country for a length of time, you romanticize where you came from. This is human nature. Two things happen:
    1) That place we came from gets frozen in time
    2) Our bad memories fade and positive experiences tend to stick.
    1. You'll see it a lot when people start talking about the "old country" and how this [insert something here] would never happen back in the old country
    2. Fading bad memories are a coping mechanism. Imagine if the trauma that you went through as a teenager (and we all had some traumatic experience) didn't fade? Nope... it fades. We laugh at our mistakes as a teenager and forget about the angst and difficulties. We don't tend to re-live those moments. But the good memories... those can stick around. So, we have a bias towards a positive past and a negative present. It's life.
    I genuinely think this is a lot of what people see in Japan.

  • @Yabatan
    @Yabatan 4 місяці тому +13

    ファンタスティック!😂👏

  • @Hrafnskald
    @Hrafnskald 4 місяці тому +137

    Sometimes it's liberating to transition to American ways of responding to obnoxious strangers :)

    • @oddabandon
      @oddabandon 4 місяці тому +18

      😌 I feel like it's a lesson to keep in our hearts

    • @phen-themoogle7651
      @phen-themoogle7651 4 місяці тому +6

      Would've been funnier if Dogen pretended to not be an American and just used Japanese to that Sam character..💀

    • @heribertosarmiento1265
      @heribertosarmiento1265 4 місяці тому +2

      Is your duty as an American to respond to all hostile threats that way. 😂😂😂

  • @michaelktran
    @michaelktran 4 місяці тому +38

    lol love this video. These guys are all over the Japanese subreddits too.

    • @msinc
      @msinc 4 місяці тому +2

      Oh dude those people are so toxic!

    • @scintillam_dei
      @scintillam_dei 4 місяці тому

      @@msinc Reality is toxic. Quick! Get under Dogen's wing lest reality pluck you away, you sweet summer child in a bubble. No way am I not untrolling you on a backwards Thor's day.

    • @rsmith02
      @rsmith02 4 місяці тому +1

      Why spend time on subreddits?

  • @Jojob541
    @Jojob541 4 місяці тому +54

    That sounded a bit personal, Dogen. Who pissed you off enough to get a video? :D

    • @strongbad4216
      @strongbad4216 4 місяці тому +12

      This is every second gaijin in Japan

    • @shurikens68
      @shurikens68 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@strongbad4216 or half the people on the Japanese subreddits on reddit lol

    • @scintillam_dei
      @scintillam_dei 4 місяці тому

      @@strongbad4216 Where is Johnny Somali now?

  • @TheStellarJay
    @TheStellarJay 4 місяці тому +44

    YO I HAD THIS EXACT THING HAPPEN TO ME. I met this drunk american guy after getting some food with my roomates, dude told us his whole life story about how he came to Japan like 20 years ago to do street performing. Dude compared Japanese people to nazis, talked all sorts of shit on them, doesn't speak the language, tried to teach us "how to scam these uptight r****ds."
    Sad dude.

    • @user-xl5kd6il6c
      @user-xl5kd6il6c 4 місяці тому

      It's typical as these kinds of far lefties are the ones that come out of universities, are into arts/entertainment and into traveling
      It's the same kind of people that immigrate here but waste every day complaining about Japan and how it "has to change"

    • @conde_bathory
      @conde_bathory 4 місяці тому +3

      What makes these people stay in their host countries for so long, if they don't like it?

  • @banananer16
    @banananer16 4 місяці тому +135

    These are the foreigners my friends and I have been calling "Bruces" for years (it's also a verb, "Brucing").
    A Bruce hates his dead-end job, but knows if he returned to his home country, his only option is probably janitorial work. Bruce is sick of his Japanese wife (who likewise wishes Bruce would contribute more to the family, either money or time) but he can't divorce her or he may not see his kids again. Bruce, however, struggles to relate to his now teenage son and daughter, partly because he never learned Japanese and his children don't feel as comfortable expressing themselves in English. Bruce spends a lot of time at the local HUB, trawling for English-speaking newcomers he can painstakingly vent his frustrations at, but he'll settle for cornering an American-looking stranger on the train.
    Luckily I speak Japanese so I don't need to rely on foreign friends for social interaction, but over the years I've developed a keen sixth sense for identifying and steering clear of Bruces.

    • @borismuller86
      @borismuller86 4 місяці тому +26

      I swear I recently met a Bruce, except his name was Neil, or something. He’s in his 60s and “never got around to learning the lingo”.

    • @glass-yuzu
      @glass-yuzu 4 місяці тому +28

      They're all over Taiwan, too. I love especially when they recommend a place by saying "the servers speak really good English", and speak negatively of a place if the servers don't. Very classy !

    • @TheLowman9
      @TheLowman9 4 місяці тому +2

      awww crikey bruce!!

    • @Ravenousyouth
      @Ravenousyouth 4 місяці тому

      the equivalent in New Zealand is old brits who come here for the good proper life (ie to get away from brown people) then are shocked that here they are foreign ! whinging poms . - and sometimes south africans do similar

    • @Zaxomio
      @Zaxomio 4 місяці тому +3

      christ that's depressing to just read.

  • @Shannovian
    @Shannovian 4 місяці тому +54

    Oh god. Thank you Dogen for making this. I've only been here for a few months but I am so sick of this kind of person. It's like "have you tried... fitting in?"

    • @spaghetti1641
      @spaghetti1641 4 місяці тому +16

      It is even more simple than that - have you tried trying? With anything you have to put effort in. That is why they 'aren't accepted' anywhere, because they haven't tried or done anything about their situation.

    • @Vladiator
      @Vladiator 4 місяці тому +5

      It's ridiculous. Going to another country and feeling so entitled for people to like you... That's not how it works anywhere. If you want to be liked, go find someone who will. Not saying it'd be easy, but what, did you just expect to emigrate to another country and expect handouts?

    • @user-xl5kd6il6c
      @user-xl5kd6il6c 4 місяці тому +6

      @@spaghetti1641 Nah, they don't even accept Japanese people when they change to another city they weren't born in. And they are open about it
      People that never been to Japan confuse that as "racism" or "never being accepted as japanese", but they fail to see that it's the default that everyone will deal with like anywhere else in the world. People should just try to fit in and that's it
      Other people aren't forced to accept them, and pointing it out as an excuse doesn't help them out either

    • @borismuller86
      @borismuller86 4 місяці тому +9

      I’ve never been to another country where the people are as enthusiastic about helping you learn their language. I used to sit next to a guy at work who gave me exercise books and would help me learn kanji. Tajiro, you da real MVP.

    • @michaelmartin9022
      @michaelmartin9022 4 місяці тому

      ​@@user-xl5kd6il6cI've heard in Greece you are "foreign" if you're from 5 miles away lol

  • @japonesafondo
    @japonesafondo 4 місяці тому +10

    Yep, the classic "teach english, get a boring job and don't level up, get entangled with gaijin hunters and rush into a relationship" package. Seen too much of it 😅

  • @sayorisione8868
    @sayorisione8868 4 місяці тому +7

    This video made me so happy. I resubed I feel like every one tells me “Japan is this japan is that Japan is this Japan is that.” I’m just happy to chart my own path. And enjoy it how I want to! Thank you Dogen!

  • @GoldeeSuperKamichu
    @GoldeeSuperKamichu 4 місяці тому +18

    孤独で寂しいからDogenに友達になってほしい系外人かもしれん

  • @tarael86
    @tarael86 4 місяці тому +13

    "That's okay, I'm not looking for acceptance."

  • @Trainfan1055Janathan
    @Trainfan1055Janathan 4 місяці тому +44

    When I first started listening to Japanese music, I noticed this thing called 当て字 (ateji), which is basically like writing down one word, but singing a different one. I guess we would call it "poetic license" in English. At first, it used to annoy me. I'd be like, "Man, this makes it really hard to read along in real time," but after a while, it became so normal that I don't even notice it anymore. I actually think it's kinda cute sometimes.

    • @thewallsspeaktome3507
      @thewallsspeaktome3507 4 місяці тому +3

      Is it like using certain kanji but using different pronunciations of it or something?

    • @hikageniko
      @hikageniko 4 місяці тому +4

      first stumbled upon this in the lyrics of the opening song of Super Sentai Liveman where そら, as in sky, is written like 宇宙

    • @samuelvancik3762
      @samuelvancik3762 4 місяці тому +7

      ​@@hikageniko That's the kanji for 宇宙(うちゅう)"Space", no? It's interesting, perhaps it has a deeper, symbolic meaning? Like you know, you look to the sky, yeah, but in truth you are looking towards the vastness of the universe... or something like that. Perhaps as a symbol of infinite possibilities.

    • @KuroShiiiro
      @KuroShiiiro 4 місяці тому +2

      THATS what its called? ive noticed it too n it throws me off hehe. but i like it. now i know the phrase for it! thanks

    • @coversine479
      @coversine479 4 місяці тому +29

      That not ateji, ateji is when a word is spelled using kanji only for their sound without regard for their meaning, like 亜細亜(アジア) or 滅茶苦茶(めちゃくちゃ)

  • @MattFreel
    @MattFreel 4 місяці тому +19

    I have met this guy a couple of times. Always a different face, but always the same story and “advice.” 😅

  • @shurikens68
    @shurikens68 4 місяці тому +9

    The "unfortunately" was the highlight of the video, just the pure suffering in the way he said 残念ながら was beautiful lol

  • @user-ch8dp7bo4o
    @user-ch8dp7bo4o 4 місяці тому +8

    Definitely some Japanese people out there who won’t accept you just because you’re a foreigner, but they’re the odd ones out. If you actually try to learn and understand the language and culture, almost all people are super welcoming and patient. If you don’t follow cultural norms, you will be despised, but that goes for everywhere in the world. If you talk loudly on the train, skip lines, and wear your shoes indoors, people will definitely not accept you. If you do your best and make an active effort to fit in and get along with people, most of them will accept you.
    I do kendo, and i take it very seriously as it’s my most important hobby. No one speaks english in my dojos, and I have to communicate only in Japanese. I receive nothing but complements, advise, friendly questions about where I’m from or how long I’ve been doing kendo, or if I’m enjoying Japan, etc. people have been nothing but supportive because they see the effort I put in. I’m most definitely accepted and am viewed as a main member of many of the dojos I practice at, and I am invited to many get-together and parties where only the closer groups of kendoka are invited. Obviously I’m not Japanese, and I never will be, but if I show the same values and respect as those around me, I am gladly welcomed, accepted, and respected. (Super long rant, sorry, I just wanted to give a personal example of why it’s definitely possible to be accepted here.).

    • @ShayHezarkhani
      @ShayHezarkhani 4 місяці тому

      "almost all people" is wayyy too generous. But i tend to agree with you, and others alike.

  • @Thathumanoverthere1701
    @Thathumanoverthere1701 4 місяці тому +11

    Aaaaaa! It's the same in every country! That guy always finds you.

  • @Drebin416
    @Drebin416 4 місяці тому +15

    Easy. If there's two of us, we're the even ones out.

    • @oddabandon
      @oddabandon 4 місяці тому

      Pfft 😂 I hate it and I love you. That's great

    • @HouseMDaddict
      @HouseMDaddict 4 місяці тому

      Haha I love this 😆

  • @suspecthalo
    @suspecthalo 4 місяці тому +21

    I don't live in Japan, but even just learning, this is relatable and got a good laugh out of me. Thanks :)

  • @Soridan
    @Soridan 4 місяці тому +46

    "They'll never accept you!" I've been told this a few times, always by someone with disdain for the locals and a stubborn refusal to engage with the people/culture. Meanwhile I'm making friends and getting invited to social outings left and right, even getting told that "you're one of us now". ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Who would've thunk it?

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA 4 місяці тому

      It's what ex-USSR migrants living in the West tell people who are still living in ex Soviet countries "oh it's so horrible in Canada, don't move here, they will never treat you as one of them" - "then why don't you move back?" - *crickets*. Reality is that some people just don't get assimilated, and are still watching russian TV abroad, and have idea of the Western countries from russian propaganda _despite living there,_ no wonder everyone hates them. And and the funniest thing? These people HATE migrants... while being migrants themselves.

    • @orti1283
      @orti1283 4 місяці тому +4

      Yeah, and you know what? It's better to never be considered "japanese", otherwise the social expectations and style of human interaction would lead to extinguishing your own culture and personality. No need to be japanese, you can still make real bonds while being "the foreigner in japan" as long as you're open, friendly, and avoid the most severe no-go's of the culture.

    • @orti1283
      @orti1283 3 місяці тому

      @@AJ-fo2pl I would bet 99.99999% that in Japanese

  • @Lysander45
    @Lysander45 4 місяці тому +14

    I wonder if one day you shall possess the wit to try and skewer the rare 'Jake Adelstein type' of long-term foreign resident. They're like this type of foreigner, except they stare off into middle distance talking about corruption, Yakuza, and how more people should buy their books.

    • @michaelmartin9022
      @michaelmartin9022 4 місяці тому

      I remember he wrote this whole long article about how he got deported "despite having contributed for 20 years!" and all sorts of other stuff that boiled down to "No, I didn't have a valid visa, but...". Also at once point he was under detention in a fascist gestapo camp, the next moment he was "walking from room to room" while on the phone to somebody.
      A bunch of Brits made fun of this and his follow-up column had a whole bizarre section on the size of gardens (or "yards") you get with houses in the US compared to the UK.
      No, I don't sit next to gaijin on the train either.

    • @rsmith02
      @rsmith02 4 місяці тому

      Way too rare though to be a successful author with a popular HBO Max show. It's not a type it's a unicorn. Now the complete lack of common sense that made it possible is also horrifying to imagine doing myself, but I can't look away!

  • @chrisc7265
    @chrisc7265 4 місяці тому +29

    I lived in Japan for ten years and this was my biggest peeve. Japan is not an easy country to immigrate to, you are literally doing tons of work to be here ---- if you hate it so much, just leave!

    • @wirito
      @wirito 4 місяці тому +1

      What happened to pet?

  • @psyclone5745
    @psyclone5745 4 місяці тому +5

    年に何度か海外の友人が日本に遊びに来るんだが、よくこういう日本在住?の外国人に声をかけられるって言ってたな。まさか本当に存在するとは思わなかった

  • @NukeMarine
    @NukeMarine 4 місяці тому +8

    As long as he's not curling in the squat rack, I don't care if he counts his reps by writing them out in kanji.

  • @sergeant_ruffles
    @sergeant_ruffles 4 місяці тому +2

    It probably was my first time reading Japanese subtitles to understand what was just said in English haha
    So fast!
    And so accurate as always :D

  • @besutogaido
    @besutogaido 4 місяці тому +13

    POV: never tried living abroad anywhere but jp

    • @RenopunkJo
      @RenopunkJo 4 місяці тому +3

      This

    • @autismspirit
      @autismspirit 4 місяці тому +2

      it's a huge thing I've noticed with americans and some europeans who like to complain about "all the reasons why living in Japan is tough", not realising that it's a pretty standard immigrant experience. it's like they treat the place as a big amusement park and not a real country or something (a lot do)

    • @uamdbro
      @uamdbro 4 місяці тому

      @@autismspiritOn the other hand, far too many people defend Japan when it is obviously being xenophobic and backwards re:immigrants, and there absolutely are many problems that you would experience as an immigrant to east Asia that you simply would not experience if you moved many other countries with more of an immigrant history/culture (US, Australia, many places in western Europe, many places in South America, etc.).

    • @autismspirit
      @autismspirit 4 місяці тому +3

      @o You said it yourself, it's the case because those places have already experienced mass immigration and/or have been built by immigrants. There's no reason to judge other countries by that same standard. What you experience in East Asia/Eastern Europe/Africa is natural, we're all xenophobic on some level, but in the West it's been beaten out of people. You're just projecting your cultural and historical standards onto people who haven't experienced any of that.

    • @Draconic_Aura
      @Draconic_Aura 3 дні тому

      @@autismspirit we have come full circle, it is xenophobic to be against xenophobia

  • @janshi876
    @janshi876 3 місяці тому +1

    I have this strong urge to start a slow clap 💜
    The inane resentful ‘you’ll never…’ rant should always be met with a offhanded なるほど、そうして… and walking off if they actually try to continue

  • @qumphie
    @qumphie 4 місяці тому +5

    This felt like one of those "Based on a real story." documentaries...
    That annoyance felt real

  • @arizona_iced_out_boy
    @arizona_iced_out_boy 3 місяці тому +1

    I live in Japan and 100% agree with what Dogen's been saying for a while, learn Japanese 100% but also have a skill that you genuinely want to use. If you genuinely actually like teaching, then be a teacher for sure! There are plenty of foreigners I know who go straight towards actually teaching at international schools. I for one am an engineer, worked at one shitty japanese company and now work at a really really chill japanese company (2 foreigners in the entire company including me) where I get to do what I want. Sure, there are plenty of people I've met and worked with who never have and never will pick up the language and do fine, but knowing the language opens up the door to so many really fucking awesome experiences and friendships. I will never be Japanese, however when I go to my favorite bar, 居酒屋 or indie coffee shop and the staff/regulars immediately start shooting the shit with me, as cheesy as it is to say, I belong here and I am home.

  • @kbrock9146
    @kbrock9146 4 місяці тому +36

    How does one say, "Sorry. All out of fucks to give." in Japanese? 😂

    • @mcritz46vl
      @mcritz46vl 4 місяці тому +56

      「日本語は上手」

    • @kbrock9146
      @kbrock9146 4 місяці тому

      @@mcritz46vl I'll take your word for it.

    • @Hrafnskald
      @Hrafnskald 4 місяці тому

      アイスコーヒー ;)

    • @ImRezaF
      @ImRezaF 4 місяці тому +13

      どうでもいい

    • @Sakamori14
      @Sakamori14 4 місяці тому +5

      はい

  • @YURIKOTIGERjp
    @YURIKOTIGERjp 4 місяці тому +2

    残念ながらめっちゃわかるーーーw

  • @boycottwarhammer6016
    @boycottwarhammer6016 4 місяці тому +119

    Thanks Dogen, I will remember to keep working on my skills, save money and find a nice wife rather than an easy one.

    • @borismuller86
      @borismuller86 4 місяці тому +4

      No such thing as an easy wife. If they’re easy up front, you’ll be paying for it for years.

    • @CapnNapalm
      @CapnNapalm 4 місяці тому +4

      @@borismuller86I'm so sorry for your loss

  • @WaterFruitTree
    @WaterFruitTree 4 місяці тому +3

    This is.... very cathartic.

  • @rpomusic
    @rpomusic 4 місяці тому +2

    r/okinawa, r/movingtojapan, r/Japan and r/japanlife personified

  • @emerald9054
    @emerald9054 4 місяці тому +3

    Really serendipitous that two of my favorite Japan-related youtubers made content related to gyms in Japan on the same day! 😯 (Livakivi if anyone's wondering.)

  • @gedog77
    @gedog77 4 місяці тому

    Subscribed because of this video.

  • @raitohd7206
    @raitohd7206 4 місяці тому +48

    Been living in Japan for 1 year, and already found too many foreigners complaining like that. I try to avoid their bad energy as much as possible, because I'm happy living here. And if they're that unhappy, why don't they just leave?? 😑

    • @jkxss
      @jkxss 4 місяці тому +6

      Are you saying their feelings are not valid?

    • @user-gi6db4bw2o
      @user-gi6db4bw2o 4 місяці тому +12

      @@jkxss People should complain less and move forward more. Feelings are feelings, after all everyone should contain their bad mood so only meaningful part of it is spilled over.

    • @spiritmuse
      @spiritmuse 4 місяці тому +8

      @@jkxssOf course their feelings are valid, but there comes a time when you should stop making complaining about the country you chose to live in your whole personality, and move forward to either try and fix it or cut your losses and leave.

    • @raitohd7206
      @raitohd7206 4 місяці тому

      whats the point of complaining if theyll do NOTHING about it? if they wanna talk about finding a solution to their "problems", Im all ears and glad to help@@jkxss

    • @smudge8882
      @smudge8882 4 місяці тому +10

      ​@@jkxss People's feelings are always valid but it's rude to constantly force them on random strangers. That's what therapists are for. It's always valid to have whatever feelings you have. It's not always valid to act on them though. If you want to vent to someone, you need to ask first.

  • @ladybookworms
    @ladybookworms 4 місяці тому +14

    I am not very well 'accepted' in my own country (at least I don't feel it) so I don't really expect anywhere else will either. But that's what you get for putting your feet in two or three different languages and cultures, while living away from your own community for a very long time. I'm past caring now.
    So not all people who are not accepted by their own places (and such culture/community is rapidly disintegrating anyways) seek acceptance elsewhere. Those who do have to go meditate under a waterfall!

    • @Vladiator
      @Vladiator 4 місяці тому

      You make a good point. I don’t feel accepted in my own country, either. When I remotely see another human (being in our car-reliant society), they’re just fucking annoying. They literally won’t shut up and let you talk. So when people tell me “Japan won’t accept you.”, America won’t accept me either, so what does it matter?! I’m there for many other reasons, not self-entitlement.

  • @MNames2023
    @MNames2023 4 місяці тому +2

    I’m sorry for your loss 🤣

  • @Ceylin_Kurtbogan
    @Ceylin_Kurtbogan 3 місяці тому +3

    Living in Japan for 4 years now with a Japanese fiance, I couldn't agree more to this. Most people who complain and make the same old same old criticism of Japan are the ones who come here from Western countries for a low paying, dead end and bad english teaching jobs, trying to change the entire country to fit their own cultural understandings and views instead of trying to adapt to the country they are trying to live lol. I know because I saw so many of them over 4 years most of which not living here anymore.
    *Also some Americans should keep in mind that not all countries are immigrant countries like America and nations have thousands of years of history living together and shaping a united culture. You don't become that nation just because you step foot there once. Japanese people don't discriminate against you just because you are a foreigner, they can just act differently around you sometimes and that is if you aren't friends. They do this out of good will. Also "the restaurants not accepting you in" thing is very rare or at the very least quite outdated.
    *Japanese working culture criticisms even though can be based in reality depending on the sector, are largely outdated. Compared to US it might be worse than there but in general a lot of companies have strict no overtime policies. Or overtime never exceeds 20 hours a month which isn't that much in my opinion. I have a social life I can enjoy without any issues for example.
    *Most of those English teachers cannot speak Japanese even after years of living here, show no effort to learn or integrate themselves to Japan, save no money and live paycheck to paycheck, use Japan as an overglorified vacation resort with nice aesthetics basically to escape from their problems or responsibilities in their home countries, make Japanese partners just for the sake of them being Japanese and rush into relationships with them after which they regret and criticize how Japanese people are so disconnected in a relationship, work in the same dead end job with no promotion or pay raise over 3-4 years in which he isn't even taken seriously as an english teacher at all and then complain about the entire country. So it is basically an escapism that wastes valuable years of yours without improving yourself in any way in the long run and falling behind most people.
    *About Japanese couples not sleeping together in bed. That is again, a you problem lol. Many people have no such issue and even though couples who are married for quite a long time commonly do sleep in seperate beds, it is not a must or a strictly cultural point at all. There are many people who don't do that and sleep together instead.
    It seems like a YOU problem if you did not make any proper plans or did not find a good ground to make the move to Japan for, other than "idk, Japan seems fun lol". I came here as a software engineer, came here with savings already as a plan B, learned Japanese even before coming (doesn't have to be 100%), made online Japanese friends and language exchange partners before making the move and never felt alone or not accepted as a result. Literally all my bad experiences in Japan were with foreigners living or visiting here lol.

  • @michelleyamamoto5519
    @michelleyamamoto5519 4 місяці тому +1

    We've all (well, once you've been living here for years) met this type at least once. Spot on assessment lol

  • @Serveck
    @Serveck 4 місяці тому +1

    I was there for a couple weeks and got adopted by a family and I don't know japanese and feel homesick for a foreign country..

  • @gsfsb693
    @gsfsb693 4 місяці тому +21

    I think you'd need to have an especially high view of yourself as an immigrant to expect acceptance from a completely different culture, no matter where you went. And then if you barely engage with that culture, yeah, no shit they won't accept you!

    • @uamdbro
      @uamdbro 4 місяці тому

      ...no? If you move to the US or Australia or whatever, and are not a complete dickhead, you will be accepted. Just because some countries are xenophobic doesn't mean all are.

  • @mamakay158
    @mamakay158 3 місяці тому

    Thank you Dogen for telling the truth. This video deserves a triple thumbs up score!

  • @jedfromyourlocallibrary
    @jedfromyourlocallibrary 4 місяці тому +5

    oof shoutout to wearing headphones at the gym 😅

  • @winterphuntasm
    @winterphuntasm 4 місяці тому +13

    I used to be sceptical about moving to Japan but I finally decided to move there permanently. It doesn't matter if I'm a foreigner as long as I'm happy, that's what matters.

    • @shadowshiro7301
      @shadowshiro7301 4 місяці тому +1

      I lived in Thailand 24 yrs, USA 16 yrs, and Tokyo 3 yrs. Recently, my JP company sent me to Bangkok office. After living in Thailand again for a year, I want to go back and live in Japan permanently. My only issue in Japan is that it is hard to find a partner since I am LGBT person. If I had a good partner living in Japan together, it would be best. I also recently had a good chance for job interview in San Francisco, but I turned it down. Too high inflation in California.
      Although it is a lot of hard work working for a JP company, it is quite a life long employment, and I find that my life is more challenging trying to learn Nihongo more, rather than going back to speaking English only.

    • @g_rr_tt
      @g_rr_tt 2 місяці тому

      it's good till it ain't! right?
      The more foreigners like yourself move there, the more Japan becomes less Japanese, and you'll end up moving somewhere else. Especially after your first near-death natural disaster.

  • @centurybeta2112
    @centurybeta2112 4 місяці тому +8

    Lol! That was great post workout video to see pop up in my feed!😂
    I'm going to try counting in Japanese at the gym here in the US Midwest. If someone says I'm 上手, then they're my new best friend... Because then I know that they know... You know? 🤪

  • @keikoueda4609
    @keikoueda4609 4 місяці тому

    面白かった!

  • @luke211286
    @luke211286 4 місяці тому +7

    What is "acceptance" really, anyway? Because it seems that treating a foreign neighbor cordially and allowing him to live his life isn't considered one

    • @botanich
      @botanich 4 місяці тому +1

      I would say, you accept person if you are ready to deal with them

    • @uamdbro
      @uamdbro 4 місяці тому

      Treating them as a normal member of your society, the same way you would treat a native-born person, is acceptance.

  • @akaRyuka
    @akaRyuka 4 місяці тому +3

    To everyone reading that: study Japanese enough and you will blend in lol. If you're not blending in it's because they don't want to have to deal with you not understanding stuff. Studying more will open you more doors for work and in society.

  • @sutorippuwebmaster8783
    @sutorippuwebmaster8783 3 місяці тому +2

    "Veteran" Gaijin: The minute you leave, they're talking shit about you.
    Me: So... just like being with my own family. Got it.

  • @W4iteFlame
    @W4iteFlame 4 місяці тому +1

    I think I should show this to one english teacher I know. I bet he will like it (but more likely he is a subscriber already)

  • @Jonnyeth
    @Jonnyeth 4 місяці тому

    Just dogen taking shots at his audience haha love it

  • @AlienSensei
    @AlienSensei 4 місяці тому +1

    Your American accent is almost as good as Sora. Keep it up, Dogen.

  • @SpyroTheEternalNight
    @SpyroTheEternalNight 3 місяці тому

    1) 0:31 "i believe you". very underrated yet very severe burn.
    2) maybe it's not a big deal, i don't know, but i'm really impressed you did that speech at 0:49 all in one take.

  • @bitfreakazoid
    @bitfreakazoid 4 місяці тому +1

    "So sorry for your loss." LOL

  • @bitfreakazoid
    @bitfreakazoid 4 місяці тому +3

    "I'm not Japanese and I don't accept you either." Savage. I hate hearing these type of people shit talk Japan. You can tell they are the type as Dogen described at the end.

  • @NemisCassander
    @NemisCassander 2 місяці тому

    Zannen nagara... PERFECT. :)

  • @ChrisCrous-bq1cf
    @ChrisCrous-bq1cf 4 місяці тому +2

    This sentiment needs to be expressed more. I'm not Japanese and that is perfectly fine. However I live in Japan and I'm grateful for every moment I get to spend here. I don't need everyone to accept me to feel a sense of security.

  • @grahamn311
    @grahamn311 4 місяці тому

    Very Yes.

  • @rotoozeki
    @rotoozeki 4 місяці тому +2

    まるでラップバトルのよう

  • @naisunigen
    @naisunigen 4 місяці тому +3

    People who think that only Japan has these problems have never lived in any country other than their own, anywhere you will be an outsider

  • @JeanMichelAbrassart
    @JeanMichelAbrassart 4 місяці тому

    So true.

  • @Muvikon
    @Muvikon 4 місяці тому +1

    You know how they say there's a grain of truth in every joke. There is a hidden wisdom in that one.

  • @MrVasquezPepito
    @MrVasquezPepito 4 місяці тому +4

    This video will trigger so many r/japanlife posters

  • @nchlebak
    @nchlebak 4 місяці тому

    0:49 was quite on the nose there. Didn't happen to me, but know plenty of people who went through EXACTLY that...
    Ouch... 😅

  • @lercheklerchek3472
    @lercheklerchek3472 4 місяці тому +4

    r/japanlife in a nutshell

  • @Rhedak
    @Rhedak 4 місяці тому

    Very accurate

  • @JeremyCarman
    @JeremyCarman 4 місяці тому

    Nice flip.

  • @gerenan
    @gerenan 4 місяці тому +7

    Hahahaha, this has happened to me once actually. An Australian guy did something similar to this when I was at a Sento with a Gym xD

  • @EliotChildress
    @EliotChildress 4 місяці тому +13

    Kinda feeling called out about not saving my paycheck 😂
    In my defense American deodorant is really expensive in yen

    • @nathantheodorus
      @nathantheodorus 4 місяці тому

      Wait, there's a difference between American deodorant and Japanese?
      Pro tip: Move to 25-40 years old concrete mansion (not apartment) and you'll save a lot of money with the same size room without worrying about earthquake
      And if you live near the city center, moving 40 minutes out will save you a lot more money

  • @rdnao1606
    @rdnao1606 4 місяці тому +1

    was the "naruhodo" at 0:23 the same as the 256 bit encrypted japanese one ?

  • @tataowen2359
    @tataowen2359 4 місяці тому +3

    gotta wonder how many times he has experienced something like this..
    20~30 or possibly more? lol

  • @ouui
    @ouui 4 місяці тому

    Totally

  • @NL0Gwenster
    @NL0Gwenster 4 місяці тому +1

    たすイチ in 渋谷 ... go there and 100% guaranteed you will have this type of conversation, every single time.

  • @Beaverswings
    @Beaverswings 4 місяці тому

    sweet

  • @ClickBeetleTV
    @ClickBeetleTV 4 місяці тому

    Sounds like you really met this guy at the gym right before you made this
    We are here for your venting

  • @user-or5uo9zs4k
    @user-or5uo9zs4k Місяць тому +2

    لقد كنت ابحث في مقاطعك عن اي مقطع تتحدث فيه بأي لغة غير اليابانية كي اتحقق بأنك لست ياباني😅، ادائك رائع في اليابانية😎

  • @user-km8lg6od3f
    @user-km8lg6od3f 4 місяці тому +2

    I like the stereotypical people from Dogen's video like this😂

  • @EvilNui
    @EvilNui 4 місяці тому

    Brutal :O

  • @dataps5346
    @dataps5346 4 місяці тому +3

    POV: you googled “downsides of Japan living”

  • @serflord
    @serflord 2 місяці тому +1

    I learned a new translation for 失礼します! 😉

  • @lastnamefirstname8655
    @lastnamefirstname8655 4 місяці тому +1

    what a _nice_ foreigner.

  • @wasabichips933
    @wasabichips933 4 місяці тому +16

    I see Dogen has not been spared from the latest shitstorm that is #GaijinTwitter

    • @HerrMustermann
      @HerrMustermann 4 місяці тому +3

      What's GaijinTwitter?

    • @wasabichips933
      @wasabichips933 4 місяці тому +4

      @@HerrMustermann A miserable corner of Twitter that’s filled with people who sound just like the 25-year veteran in this video

    • @rsmith02
      @rsmith02 4 місяці тому

      Maybe it will inspire some more excellent content like this! @@wasabichips933

  • @nanaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    @nanaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 4 місяці тому

    DAMN.