In general, the TI units are faster in response to inputs. This is seen when quickly switching between sonar, downscan, chart, and split screens ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxeAxH15LxhjGlg5-CRYqjTGTEH0tbY4vk recommend The Hook units will show some lag on button pushes and screen switching. The big ticket item though is maps. If you install a mapping card such as Navionics or the free C-Map Genesis which has a lot of map detail, then moving around the map with the cursor or when running down the lake can lag significantly on the Hook units, but is seamless with the TI units.
This feature comes standard now ( Feb 2023) on the new Elite FS 7 & 9, and I will say it's one of the main reasons I bought the FS 9. It definitely lets you see the fish with the lower frequency overlay that you don't see with the downscan view. Thank you for the good demo of the unit's display.
Lawren you are the best i have ever seen at doing the Lowrance demo videos just excellent thank you. All your demos are just perfect I just hope Lowrance get you to do all their presentations.
I love it thanks for teaching what you just did I got me to the Gen 3 units I got them professionally installed and can't wait to get out and trying this year I got two guys going to show me how to do it thanks again I will keep watching your channel I love it that fish reveal is really it awesome
Yeah I'm hoping the same myself. I tried it with some recordings I made a while ago and with the built in demo and both did it. So I think your right and anything close to the bottom will show up like that
How is the downscan with fish reveal better than the just the chirp sonar? In other words what more information does the Downscan portion tell you that you would pick it on your screen over the chirp?
Thanks for the video. Really helpful. One thing that makes my brain twisted in knots is the contrast, sensitivity, and color line settings. Mainly because, how do you determine what is the correct settings? At what point is the adjustment hindering the "truthfulness" of what you're seeing?
Glad the video helped. Honestly they have made it confusing with sensitivity and contrast. Why they can't just call it one thing I don't know. Basically though you'll never set it to show you inaccurate information, but what will happen is that you can set it too low and lose info or too high and it will show so much info you wash out the detail. So you want to get in between that. Not so high that it washes out and not so low that you aren't seeing objects. Start around 70% on all those and you'll be in the ball park. You may need to increase or decrease based on depth and the amount of cover. There is no wrong setting, just better ones, so play with it and over a couple days you'll get it dialed in
thanks for your help i will try this and let you know how it turns out i go to overlay data and check temp but it never shows up its gonna be a few days before i can try because we just got hit with bad weather thank you so much im sure i can solve this with your help
Ok then if nothing shows up... Make sure you have the totalscan transducer selected in the sonar installation menu. Once that is done go to network in the menu and select data sources. Make sure your totalscan is set as the temperature data source
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Lawren thanks for taking the time to do these videos. I too have the yellow line running along the bottom of the screen on my HDS12 is that something I have to live with? How do I turn fish reveal off once it is loaded if I don't want to use it?
That yellow line is a difference in height between your 2D transducer and DownScan transducer. If they are more than a couple inches difference in height you will get that line. What is happening is that the 2D transducer is giving you a shallower reading than the DownScan and it shows the bottom slightly higher than the DownScan. If you want to turn FishReveal off, just uncheck it in the menu.
I removed the sd card from my simrad GO9 and inserted into laptop. I saw a waypoint file and moved it off the sd card. I put the update file on the card and inserted back into my simrad and it updated. I then took the sd card and removed the update file and put my waypoint file back on it. I THEN REALIZED I MAY HAVE MESSED UP! I realized I was in such a hurry and the waypoint file was NOT all my waypoints but was all the waypoints I backed up SINCE I BACKED IT UP 2 years ago. You think my latest waypoints got erased with the update?
Great video, you obviously know your stuff. I do use the down scan overlay and find it to be a good addition tool. Just updated to the fish reveal, think it is going to be a great tool. Excited to get out and test it. Thanks again for your video!
I have 2 Lowrance Elite 9 on ethernet w 3 in 1 xducr. I have fish reveal enabled on both units but the reveal marks won't show up on the slave display. Reveal marks show up on master unit only. Do I need to set parameter for slave display to show fish reveal marks?
Hi i have just bought the Elite ti2 and my sonar is 3-1 active image i have few questions i need your help the only thing i do is trolling 7mile speed and max depth is 90Feet what mode i should use ? and what frequncy also in down scan wich senstivity and options i use use plus settings what is the best way to show the fish in 7mile speed
I would use shallow water mode, or Generan Use. I would use High CHIRP and play around with using Med CHIRP as well. I like the factory settings for DownScan. Watch my Elite Ti playlist and it'll give you all the info you need to get you started and you can tweak your settings while on the water.
Hello and thank you for posting this video. I have a question for you regarding the bottom colors. When looking at down imaging, let's consider your favorite color palette (the blue one) how can you tell if the bottom is sand/mud/rocks/gravel? can you identify this by the shade of blue?
You can, however it is much easier on the CHIRP sonar page. Or do a splitscreen with Sonar and FishReveal. The FishReveal (or DownScan) image will get whiter as the sonar returns get stronger (rock, gravel, etc). But like I said the CHIRP sonar will do a much better job of this in my opinion
so is it fair to say that the down scan is useless now ? ........... but I have a question about these units and maybe I am wrong but aren't they able to show water temps at different depths ,,,,,,,,,,, to me that is so critical and worth knowing .
It wouldn't say it is useless as there will be some application for it on its own. FishReveal has certainly made DownScan more useful, because on its own I didn't use it much. You cannot get temp other than surface temp on these units. You need a product like Fish Hawk X4 to do that
Just get a second power cable PC-30 and a 12 volt battery and you're all set. Keep in mind the Elite Ti units are prone to the screen not working when there is no transducer connected and grounded (in water). So if your touch screen doesn't respond, touch the negative terminal on the battery. You can also get another length of wire and run it from the negative terminal of the battery and then hold the other end of it. That will ground it and allow the unit you to use the touch screen out of water. Check out my video "Light weight battery for ice fishing". That will give you the best way to power a unit out of water
Do you still use your Garmin panoptics? And if so, could you make a video over what modifications you do to the settings to get a better picture when using the live vu forward feature?
I do still use it but didn't much last year as I took it off my boat. I plan to use it for ice fishing but didn't get around to that this year. As far as the settings go the only thing I changed was I turned off the internal compass (heading sensor) and put it in manual mode. That seemed to work so much better for me. But I left everything else at the default settings
Is the fish reveal update a software update for the system? I have an Elite 9 Ti. It had software version 18.2 on it. I updated to fish reveal. Now when I power on my system which recognizes my network at home. It says update 18.2 is available?
Enjoyed this, however for someone just getting back into electronics in the fishing world, all this is a bit overwhelming, it's great, but man I feel so incredibly stupid...
There is so much out there in the electronics world today. So much so you can over think that part of the game. All electronics today are good and will help you catch fish. Just remember you are there to fish not play with your electronics ;)
Hey Lawren my new hook series 2 9 triple shot will not give my a depth reading and my di not giving my a clear pic looks awful its brand new been doing it since day 1 waiting to hear from lowarance any suggestions ? thank you
Try putting it in manual mode to adjust the auto depth range and sensitivity manually. I've heard of some depth issue that solved... But if you aren't getting anything it might be something more
Thanks glad you liked it! On the HDS units you can use CHIRP with FishReveal, but on the Elite Ti you cannot. 455khz will give you greater distance while 800khz will give you better detail. So just depends what you want for each situation.
Thanks Lawren - I have the HDS Carbon unit, and I'm looking forward to using FishReveal in anger. I am running the unit with the total scan transducer on a Hobie kayak. I hear some talk of a XSonic transducer. Does this offer any advantages over the Total scan tranny?
Thanks. Just installed the update... when I change the frequency on the down imaging fishreveal tile, it changes the frequency on the side imaging tile to be the same value :-( Also, couldn't set chirp on the fish reveal down imaging tile
Yes I noticed that too. You can't have a different frequency on DI and SI. I can only assume it's reading the frequency that the sonar screen is on. So if you have that set to CHIRP I would assume the FishReveal was CHIRP too
You can't on the Elite Ti units. Only units like the Gen 3 or Carbon can do that. I have a HDS7 Gen 3 on the bow and a HDS on the rear so that's how I do it.
Hi Lawren, great video, I have 2 hds 7 gen 3 units, one on the bow and one on the counsel, i was wondering if you can use the trolling motor ducer in minnkota terrova for 2D sonar and split screen with side/down imaging view from the total scan ducer mounted on the transom, while showing up on the bow HDS unit side by side? Where i fish there are steep structures and you can be 10+ feet water depth difference off from bow to transom. I am wanting to see the side imaging while on the bow even if it is showing up 18' after i drive over it. Just for reference. Can this be done?? Thanks
That would be awesome but I doubt it will happen. There is no 200KHZ or CHIRP sonar image that shoot to the side along with SideScan so there isn't anything to overlay. It would be so cool if they do it though. This new update on HDS Carbon does also make seeing fish much easier on the SideScan screen as it has some new color palettes
Nice demo, thanks for taking the time to do it. I noticed that you were able to set contrast in a %. I get the +/- selections on my units. How do I change to a percentage? Thank you,
When you see the A+15 or A-12 or whatever rather than %, that means the Auto sensitivity is turned on. You can turn it off with the Auto button (if available) on the bottom of the menu screen. It should be unchecked. This will then allow you to manually control the sensitivity in %. When it is in auto you are either adding or subtracting to the auto sensitivity. If the auto mode thinks the sensitivity should be at 80% and you are at A+5, your sensitivity is at 85%. If you are at A-7 then you are ay 73%. The purpose of this is to allow you to fine tune the Auto sensitivity mode. If you don’t want to mess around with changing sensitivity as much as you would have to in manual mode, but find the auto sensitivity is too high or low, you can adjust it to your liking and it will automatically change as conditions change.
hey new to all this i have a 9&7 connected i cant get them right cant het temp on the 9 its on total scan and the new update is just a bunce of light bugs on screen i know im asking a lot but please help me set these up i want to enjoy them and right now im so discusted with them dont even know if i have the right total scan chosen my screens are nothing like yours please help
You should start by making sure both have current software. After that watch this playlist and it'll help you with the setup. This is on a Gen 2 unit but the menu is pretty much the same on Gen 3 or Carbon. I cover Overlay Data in there so that should help you get your temp on the screen. ua-cam.com/play/PLDOpC-IhUxYMDo6QL4zcC_BHXjyr8MkU9.html If you can get more specific about the problems with the units after you update and set it up I can do what I can to help.
The only frequency selection you have is the imaging 455/800 on the FishReveal page. I would assume it is displaying whatever frequency you have selected on the sonar page but don't know for sure.
hey man its me again can you tell me how to install my total scan tranducer correct i been told 1/8 from top to edge of boat also been told bottom of transducer lined edge of boat been told not on jackplate been told jackplate best man can u help i had it installed by dealer and its on jackplate said that was best well its crap im going to try and reinstall myself just need the correct way of installing
It would depend more on the type of boat it's going on. Also what unit is it plugging into? I'm going to assume it's on a bad boost if they mounted it on a jack plate. And that is correct for a bass boat. You won't get a reading at speed though and would have to install a in Hull transducer for that. And that would be assuming you have an HDS unit with 2 transducer plugs
Interesting...I hadn't noticed it before. I'll have to play around with it some more. Did you to the most recent update that came out after the FishReveal one? This one is called Software Enhancement?
Lawren Wetzel great video! So you can get all that you showed with an HDI skimmer trans or do I need the total scan trans? I have an Elite TI 9 and no one can give me an exact transducer to use on trolling motor. I think it’s a 9 pin HDI of some type.
9 pin HDI transducer is the most common to get for a trolling motor. Lowrance makes a great trolling motor adapter. I have a video of the install in my Aluminum Boat Project playlist of that transducer on a trolling motor. For SideScan you would need the TotalScan transducer and that would be hard to mount on a trolling motor.
Thanks for the response! Do you know exactly which HDI? One person told me part number 000-12570-001, another told me 000-0106-77 and another said 000-12728-001...they all appear as HDI skimmer transducers with 83/200 and 455/800. This is where I am confused. I will check out your video!
I haven't been able to find that info out. It would be nice if you could select the frequency on the DownScan Page. My guess is that an Elite Ti can't do this and would use 200kHz but the HDS Gen 3 and especially the Carbon should be able to do CHIRP and DownScan at once. I'll try to find out for sure
Thanks for the info but it seems that on my Elite 5 TI I cannot enable CHIRP while Down Scan is enabled. Any info on that? I have the total scan transducer. Thanks!
That is correct. When you are using StructureScan on the Elite Ti you cannot use CHIRP. You have to use 200Khz. That is one of the difference between the Elite Ti and HDS units
Hello how are you today im big fan of you i watcch all your videos once its uplodaded so i need some information from you hop you can answer me so i have just bought HDS7 Gen 3 and i have no clue wich settings i should use i will give you some information about my use hopfully you can give me the best settings The only Thing i buy this Device is For Trolling Trolling Speed 7 nautical miles its like 13 Kilometer per hour maximum Depth 100 Feet ( Salt Water ) Tranduser type : Lowrance HST-WSBL TM Skimmer Transducer the only fish im targeting KingFish . Mackerel and im using high speed Trolling up to 7 nautical miles please give me some of your time and help me to be a proffisnoal fisherman
Watch this playlist ua-cam.com/video/N8OJJvmvdM0/v-deo.html It is for Gen 2 but the same will apply for Gen 3. If that link doesn't work "Lowrance HDS Touch Setup Tips and Tricks" in the search bar to get to it. Also, get rid of the HSTWSBL and get a P66 transducer as those will be much better.
In general, the TI units are faster in response to inputs. This is seen when quickly switching between sonar, downscan, chart, and split screens ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxeAxH15LxhjGlg5-CRYqjTGTEH0tbY4vk recommend The Hook units will show some lag on button pushes and screen switching. The big ticket item though is maps. If you install a mapping card such as Navionics or the free C-Map Genesis which has a lot of map detail, then moving around the map with the cursor or when running down the lake can lag significantly on the Hook units, but is seamless with the TI units.
This feature comes standard now ( Feb 2023) on the new Elite FS 7 & 9, and I will say it's one of the main reasons I bought the FS 9. It definitely lets you see the fish with the lower frequency overlay that you don't see with the downscan view. Thank you for the good demo of the unit's display.
Sure is a nice feature. I'm surprised nobody else is offering it yet
Thank you! One of the best fish finder tutorials I have seen!
Thanks! Glad you liked it
Lawren you are the best i have ever seen at doing the Lowrance demo videos just excellent thank you. All your demos are just perfect
I just hope Lowrance get you to do all their presentations.
Thanks Bill! I really appreciate your kind words and I am glad the videos have helped you out.
Great video. Very informative.At 9:20 on the middle screen. What's that below the arch? Are those fish hugging the bottom?
I just bought an Elite 9ti w/ totalscan. This video was so very informative. Great job!
Glad it helped you out! Check out my channel because I have a full series on the Elite Ti units.
Thanks ! This is the first tutorial that explains where the feature is hidden. a+++
I love it thanks for teaching what you just did I got me to the Gen 3 units I got them professionally installed and can't wait to get out and trying this year I got two guys going to show me how to do it thanks again I will keep watching your channel I love it that fish reveal is really it awesome
Thanks a lot! Hope you enjoy the Gen3 units you have
Did the download yesterday. Can't wait to get out there and try it out on my Elite 7
Me too! This looks like its going to be amazing!
what would you say the best fish finder for crappie, catfish and white bass is for 2021 in the 4 to 700 range?
Garmin echomap 65cv UHD or the 75 UHD... But I have a feeling the 75 will be over $700.
Great shit, good downscan work without any fishreveal.
owe lots of thanks this guy will take time to help you most of these guys with how to series wont even say hi this guy here is one of few on u tube
Thanks for the kind words Larry! I try my best to help out when I can
Great video on fishrevil.
Why the yellow line just off bottom when fishrevil is on. It seams like it may be in way to see fish on bottom. Thank you
Yeah I'm hoping the same myself. I tried it with some recordings I made a while ago and with the built in demo and both did it. So I think your right and anything close to the bottom will show up like that
How is the downscan with fish reveal better than the just the chirp sonar? In other words what more information does the Downscan portion tell you that you would pick it on your screen over the chirp?
High detail bottom structure views.
Thanks for the video. Really helpful. One thing that makes my brain twisted in knots is the contrast, sensitivity, and color line settings. Mainly because, how do you determine what is the correct settings? At what point is the adjustment hindering the "truthfulness" of what you're seeing?
Glad the video helped. Honestly they have made it confusing with sensitivity and contrast. Why they can't just call it one thing I don't know.
Basically though you'll never set it to show you inaccurate information, but what will happen is that you can set it too low and lose info or too high and it will show so much info you wash out the detail. So you want to get in between that. Not so high that it washes out and not so low that you aren't seeing objects.
Start around 70% on all those and you'll be in the ball park. You may need to increase or decrease based on depth and the amount of cover. There is no wrong setting, just better ones, so play with it and over a couple days you'll get it dialed in
Awesome demo going to download it this weekend and see what happens!
Great video. Very informative. Which transducer would you recommend for a Elite 9 Ti for fish reveal?
The HDI Skimmer is good or the Total Scan if you want side imaging as well.
Can you show me live imageing and my transducer is on the back of the boat. Does that mean its only scanning under the back of the boat
It all depends which transducer you are referring to
Isn't the cone diameter smaller than the width of down scan so not all the fish will be shown as arches?
Yes the down scan would be wider so it is possible but in using this for several years now I've never noticed it
Great job Lawern keep them coming. I learn a great deal on all of your videos
Glad you're learning! Hope it helps you catch more fish!
I’m definitely going to use this fishReavel.
Me too! Can't wait to give it a try
thanks for your help i will try this and let you know how it turns out i go to overlay data and check temp but it never shows up its gonna be a few days before i can try because we just got hit with bad weather thank you so much im sure i can solve this with your help
Ok then if nothing shows up... Make sure you have the totalscan transducer selected in the sonar installation menu. Once that is done go to network in the menu and select data sources. Make sure your totalscan is set as the temperature data source
Great Video, I was having issues before watching this, now I can reset this up. This will really help me when I'm fishing Salmon on Lake Michigan.
Great! Got a new video coming out this week that explains another feature that'll help you fishing Salmon. Be sure to check back and subscribe if you haven't
Lawren thanks for taking the time to do these videos. I too have the yellow line running along the bottom of the screen on my HDS12 is that something I have to live with? How do I turn fish reveal off once it is loaded if I don't want to use it?
That yellow line is a difference in height between your 2D transducer and DownScan transducer. If they are more than a couple inches difference in height you will get that line. What is happening is that the 2D transducer is giving you a shallower reading than the DownScan and it shows the bottom slightly higher than the DownScan.
If you want to turn FishReveal off, just uncheck it in the menu.
thank you
how many types of the sonar for the Gen3 HDS ?? like how many kind there are
Traditional 2D, CHIRP, DownScan, SideScan, SpotlightScan are all available on the Gen 3 units
What is the solid color on the bottom of lake which is the same color as fish
Difference in transducer mounting height. You want them to be as close as possible for fish reveal. In this case they weren't
I removed the sd card from my simrad GO9 and inserted into laptop. I saw a waypoint file and moved it off the sd card. I put the update file on the card and inserted back into my simrad and it updated. I then took the sd card and removed the update file and put my waypoint file back on it. I THEN REALIZED I MAY HAVE MESSED UP! I realized I was in such a hurry and the waypoint file was NOT all my waypoints but was all the waypoints I backed up SINCE I BACKED IT UP 2 years ago. You think my latest waypoints got erased with the update?
You'll be fine. Waypoints are not erased by updates
Cannot see my lure on the screen what am I doing wrong
I'd switch to 2d sonar and see if you can see it there. If so then it could be the fish reveal software removing it for some reason
Great video, you obviously know your stuff. I do use the down scan overlay and find it to be a good addition tool. Just updated to the fish reveal, think it is going to be a great tool. Excited to get out and test it. Thanks again for your video!
I agree! DownScan overlay was good...but this is great!
Great stuff Lawren!
Thanks Nick!
I have 2 Lowrance Elite 9 on ethernet w 3 in 1 xducr. I have fish reveal enabled on both units but the reveal marks won't show up on the slave display. Reveal marks show up on master unit only. Do I need to set parameter for slave display to show fish reveal marks?
As long as it is turned on and you are using the unit that has the 3 in 1 plugged in as the source it should work.
Great video. I wish this feature was on the new Hook 2 units.
Yeah that would be nice...but I am surprised Lowrance gave it to the Elite Ti units. I figured it would have been left for HDS only
I guess the hook units cant have everything. It will be awhile before I can try my new unit, still over 4 feet of snow and ice here.
Great video. Thanks for sharing
Gald it helped!!
Hi i have just bought the Elite ti2 and my sonar is 3-1 active image i have few questions i need your help the only thing i do is trolling 7mile speed and max depth is 90Feet what mode i should use ? and what frequncy also in down scan wich senstivity and options i use use plus settings what is the best way to show the fish in 7mile speed
I would use shallow water mode, or Generan Use. I would use High CHIRP and play around with using Med CHIRP as well. I like the factory settings for DownScan.
Watch my Elite Ti playlist and it'll give you all the info you need to get you started and you can tweak your settings while on the water.
Thanks for this, just upgraded the software,looking good.
Hello and thank you for posting this video. I have a question for you regarding the bottom colors. When looking at down imaging, let's consider your favorite color palette (the blue one) how can you tell if the bottom is sand/mud/rocks/gravel? can you identify this by the shade of blue?
You can, however it is much easier on the CHIRP sonar page. Or do a splitscreen with Sonar and FishReveal. The FishReveal (or DownScan) image will get whiter as the sonar returns get stronger (rock, gravel, etc). But like I said the CHIRP sonar will do a much better job of this in my opinion
Great video. I'm diffently looking forward to trying out fish reveal this weekend
Enjoy it! I still have another month before ice melts and I can try it. Looking forward to hearing on the water feedback
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so is it fair to say that the down scan is useless now ? ........... but I have a question about these units and maybe I am wrong but aren't they able to show water temps at different depths ,,,,,,,,,,, to me that is so critical and worth knowing .
It wouldn't say it is useless as there will be some application for it on its own. FishReveal has certainly made DownScan more useful, because on its own I didn't use it much.
You cannot get temp other than surface temp on these units. You need a product like Fish Hawk X4 to do that
Hey LW, can you explain to me how to power my elite ti off my boat. Thank you. Very informative video.
Just get a second power cable PC-30 and a 12 volt battery and you're all set. Keep in mind the Elite Ti units are prone to the screen not working when there is no transducer connected and grounded (in water). So if your touch screen doesn't respond, touch the negative terminal on the battery. You can also get another length of wire and run it from the negative terminal of the battery and then hold the other end of it. That will ground it and allow the unit you to use the touch screen out of water.
Check out my video "Light weight battery for ice fishing". That will give you the best way to power a unit out of water
Thanks for the quick reply Brother.
Do you still use your Garmin panoptics? And if so, could you make a video over what modifications you do to the settings to get a better picture when using the live vu forward feature?
I do still use it but didn't much last year as I took it off my boat. I plan to use it for ice fishing but didn't get around to that this year. As far as the settings go the only thing I changed was I turned off the internal compass (heading sensor) and put it in manual mode. That seemed to work so much better for me. But I left everything else at the default settings
Lawren Wetzel oh okay, thank you. I’ll have to try that out next time I use it
Is the fish reveal update a software update for the system? I have an Elite 9 Ti. It had software version 18.2 on it. I updated to fish reveal. Now when I power on my system which recognizes my network at home. It says update 18.2 is available?
There are different versions of 18.2. You might have 18.2.50.60, but online its 18.2.50.75 which would be a newer version for you to download.
Lawren Wetzel a Lowrance tech informed me that fish reveal is for Ti2 not ti.
Enjoyed this, however for someone just getting back into electronics in the fishing world, all this is a bit overwhelming, it's great, but man I feel so incredibly stupid...
There is so much out there in the electronics world today. So much so you can over think that part of the game. All electronics today are good and will help you catch fish. Just remember you are there to fish not play with your electronics ;)
Great presentation!
I need your help setting up my loran C Lee 9TI
Watch my videos stores on the Lee Ti . I don't know what more you'll need than that.
Howsit I have a hds9 gen 2...is it compatible for fish reveal?
No only on Gen3 or newer
Hey Lawren my new hook series 2 9 triple shot will not give my a depth reading and my di not giving my a clear pic looks awful its brand new been doing it since day 1 waiting to hear from lowarance any suggestions ? thank you
Try putting it in manual mode to adjust the auto depth range and sensitivity manually. I've heard of some depth issue that solved... But if you aren't getting anything it might be something more
thank you i will try that
Really helpful. Thanks man. Didn't know there was an update!
..slightly higher contrast makes an image appear a bit sharper...independent of resolution...
Yes there is a balance to finding the right contrast
They have a hook reveal too
Yes, and Elite FS and HDS Live... But I didn't know all those units would be out back when I made this video :)
Great vid though
Update fish reveal oooh yes ty
It's such a good feature, I am surprised Lowrance is the only one with it still
Great video - very informative. Can you use chirp with FishReveal? Also, which frequency do you recommend for FishReveal and for Side imaging?
Thanks glad you liked it! On the HDS units you can use CHIRP with FishReveal, but on the Elite Ti you cannot. 455khz will give you greater distance while 800khz will give you better detail. So just depends what you want for each situation.
Thanks Lawren - I have the HDS Carbon unit, and I'm looking forward to using FishReveal in anger. I am running the unit with the total scan transducer on a Hobie kayak. I hear some talk of a XSonic transducer. Does this offer any advantages over the Total scan tranny?
Xsonic is just the name of the 9 pin connector transducers. So your totalscan is a xsonic transducer.
Thanks. Just installed the update... when I change the frequency on the down imaging fishreveal tile, it changes the frequency on the side imaging tile to be the same value :-( Also, couldn't set chirp on the fish reveal down imaging tile
Yes I noticed that too. You can't have a different frequency on DI and SI. I can only assume it's reading the frequency that the sonar screen is on. So if you have that set to CHIRP I would assume the FishReveal was CHIRP too
Assuming this is available on live units?
Yes it is. Gen 3 and up will have it
Bloody great video cobber
Thanks!
How did you get the side image on your front graph? I have been trying to do this I have two TI 9's
You can't on the Elite Ti units. Only units like the Gen 3 or Carbon can do that. I have a HDS7 Gen 3 on the bow and a HDS on the rear so that's how I do it.
Thanks that is a bummer but ill still catch fish with out it lol.
Hi Lawren, great video, I have 2 hds 7 gen 3 units, one on the bow and one on the counsel, i was wondering if you can use the trolling motor ducer in minnkota terrova for 2D sonar and split screen with side/down imaging view from the total scan ducer mounted on the transom, while showing up on the bow HDS unit side by side? Where i fish there are steep structures and you can be 10+ feet water depth difference off from bow to transom. I am wanting to see the side imaging while on the bow even if it is showing up 18' after i drive over it. Just for reference. Can this be done?? Thanks
just downloaded looking forward to checking this right out, good vid
Thanks a lot!
updated my Elite TI! gonna take it out and find out lol. i usually don't update anything but saw this vid and was like: i gotta have it!
Yeah this is worth updating for sure!! I haven't found any glitches in the software so far after playing with it a lot. You should be good :)
Any idea if Lowrance will be pushing out an update that would include sidescan with fishreveal?
That would be awesome but I doubt it will happen. There is no 200KHZ or CHIRP sonar image that shoot to the side along with SideScan so there isn't anything to overlay. It would be so cool if they do it though. This new update on HDS Carbon does also make seeing fish much easier on the SideScan screen as it has some new color palettes
Appreciate the reply. I'll be installing it later this week.
Have fun with it!
does on carbons but not hds. not enough processor speeed
I’m not able to download it from my computer. The file isn’t recognized. 😕. Tried it on my PC and MacBook.
Does the overlay option need to be turned on when using Fish Reveal?
The DownScan Overlay doesn't need to be on when using Fish Reveal
Thanks
Nice demo, thanks for taking the time to do it. I noticed that you were able to set contrast in a %. I get the +/- selections on my units. How do I change to a percentage? Thank you,
When you see the A+15 or A-12 or whatever rather than %, that means the Auto sensitivity is turned on. You can turn it off with the Auto button (if available) on the bottom of the menu screen. It should be unchecked. This will then allow you to manually control the sensitivity in %. When it is in auto you are either adding or subtracting to the auto sensitivity. If the auto mode thinks the sensitivity should be at 80% and you are at A+5, your sensitivity is at 85%. If you are at A-7 then you are ay 73%.
The purpose of this is to allow you to fine tune the Auto sensitivity mode. If you don’t want to mess around with changing sensitivity as much as you would have to in manual mode, but find the auto sensitivity is too high or low, you can adjust it to your liking and it will automatically change as conditions change.
Great vid!
Thank you!
hey new to all this i have a 9&7 connected i cant get them right cant het temp on the 9 its on total scan and the new update is just a bunce of light bugs on screen i know im asking a lot but please help me set these up i want to enjoy them and right now im so discusted with them dont even know if i have the right total scan chosen my screens are nothing like yours please help
You should start by making sure both have current software. After that watch this playlist and it'll help you with the setup. This is on a Gen 2 unit but the menu is pretty much the same on Gen 3 or Carbon. I cover Overlay Data in there so that should help you get your temp on the screen. ua-cam.com/play/PLDOpC-IhUxYMDo6QL4zcC_BHXjyr8MkU9.html
If you can get more specific about the problems with the units after you update and set it up I can do what I can to help.
Excellent presentation and I'm going to start using the fish reveal option.
glad you liked the video and I am sure you'll love FishReveal!
i have updated my hds gen 3 to 18.2 software and i no longer get any depth its shows ---- how can i fix it ?
Press the power key quickly. Go to edit overlay and turn depth back on.
@@InDepthSonar did not work
So what do you get?
@@InDepthSonar - - - no depth it shows that the sonar version 0.0.0
I would reload the software.
Try settings, network, data sources, sonar, depth, then select the source you want
Will fish reveal work in chirp mode without a sonar hub ?
The only frequency selection you have is the imaging 455/800 on the FishReveal page. I would assume it is displaying whatever frequency you have selected on the sonar page but don't know for sure.
hey man its me again can you tell me how to install my total scan tranducer correct i been told 1/8 from top to edge of boat also been told bottom of transducer lined edge of boat been told not on jackplate been told jackplate best man can u help i had it installed by dealer and its on jackplate said that was best well its crap im going to try and reinstall myself just need the correct way of installing
It would depend more on the type of boat it's going on. Also what unit is it plugging into? I'm going to assume it's on a bad boost if they mounted it on a jack plate. And that is correct for a bass boat. You won't get a reading at speed though and would have to install a in Hull transducer for that. And that would be assuming you have an HDS unit with 2 transducer plugs
Why didn't the pallette change when you hit #1?
Maybe a glitch?
Lawren Wetzel that glitch has happened to me several times; unable to change palette colors. FYI I find your videos very helpful. Thank you!
Interesting...I hadn't noticed it before. I'll have to play around with it some more. Did you to the most recent update that came out after the FishReveal one? This one is called Software Enhancement?
Hoping to update the unit this weekend.
That solved a lot of problems so hopefully it does this one too!
they are two total scans to chose which one is correct
You will want the Mid High (M/H) 455/800 or it might be labeled 200/83 455/800. You don't want the one for low/high 455/800
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Lawren Wetzel great video! So you can get all that you showed with an HDI skimmer trans or do I need the total scan trans? I have an Elite TI 9 and no one can give me an exact transducer to use on trolling motor. I think it’s a 9 pin HDI of some type.
9 pin HDI transducer is the most common to get for a trolling motor. Lowrance makes a great trolling motor adapter. I have a video of the install in my Aluminum Boat Project playlist of that transducer on a trolling motor. For SideScan you would need the TotalScan transducer and that would be hard to mount on a trolling motor.
Thanks for the response! Do you know exactly which HDI? One person told me part number 000-12570-001, another told me 000-0106-77 and another said 000-12728-001...they all appear as HDI skimmer transducers with 83/200 and 455/800. This is where I am confused. I will check out your video!
Does the fish reveal mode automatically use the chirp return as opposed to choosing which sonar mode to be combined with fish reveal?
I haven't been able to find that info out. It would be nice if you could select the frequency on the DownScan Page. My guess is that an Elite Ti can't do this and would use 200kHz but the HDS Gen 3 and especially the Carbon should be able to do CHIRP and DownScan at once. I'll try to find out for sure
Nobody is talking about the ping rate. Please.
Very good review
Thanks! hope it helps you on the water
Very helpful. Thanks!!
Glad it helped :)
Can you imagine what another 20 years of this high def FF going to be like. California will probably out law them or tax you for having a high def FF.
hahahaha that California comment is gold!! Love it
Thanks for the info but it seems that on my Elite 5 TI I cannot enable CHIRP while Down Scan is enabled. Any info on that? I have the total scan transducer. Thanks!
That is correct. When you are using StructureScan on the Elite Ti you cannot use CHIRP. You have to use 200Khz. That is one of the difference between the Elite Ti and HDS units
Ah I had a feeling that was going to be the reason. Thanks much!
Liked the video except your instructions are so fast to follow for each option.
They sure are. That way you only get a 11 minute video rather than 2 hours. Pause the video when you need to as you set up your unit :)
Hello how are you today im big fan of you i watcch all your videos once its uplodaded so i need some information from you hop you can answer me
so i have just bought HDS7 Gen 3 and i have no clue wich settings i should use i will give you some information about my use hopfully you can give me the best settings
The only Thing i buy this Device is For Trolling
Trolling Speed 7 nautical miles its like 13 Kilometer per hour
maximum Depth 100 Feet
( Salt Water )
Tranduser type : Lowrance HST-WSBL TM Skimmer Transducer
the only fish im targeting KingFish . Mackerel and im using high speed Trolling up to 7 nautical miles please give me some of your time and help me to be a proffisnoal fisherman
Watch this playlist ua-cam.com/video/N8OJJvmvdM0/v-deo.html
It is for Gen 2 but the same will apply for Gen 3. If that link doesn't work "Lowrance HDS Touch Setup Tips and Tricks" in the search bar to get to it.
Also, get rid of the HSTWSBL and get a P66 transducer as those will be much better.
Or just get a livescope
Two different things. I really wish Garmin would put Fish Reveal on their units because it is a nice feature
ok i see a problem already i have lh checked
Double check the data sources too. That'll probably fix you problem
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