2015 Ram ProMaster City vs Ford Transit Connect vs Nissan NV200 Matchup Van Review
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- ( www.TFLtruck.com ) What's the best Small Van in the land? Is it the 2015 Ram ProMaster City or the Ford Transit Connect or the Nissan NV200? In this TFLtruck classic matchup review we drive all three competing vans back to back to see which one rules them all.
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All vehicles drive nice when they are new, my question is; which van has the best warranty, least amount of recalls and repairs. Remember its a work van, I’d sacrifice some comfort for reliability and cargo space
Nv200 but it’s discontinued which is sad. 5 yr 100k across board.
From experience the one with the worst warranty, worst dealership service and worst reliability is the Ford. My mother has one and it has been a headache and everytime she takes it to the dealership it stays there for weeks or even months for the most ridiculous reasons. Never will buy a Ford again.
a caravan mini van has more space and any of those cargo van,
they are a joke
I have a promaster city and I am thinking in getting a minivan
I need more space and confort, those cargo van seems to be made for slaves.
@@jellyg.8961 If a vehicle is getting a warranty repair over a month it can be considered a lemon
@@gabakusa disagree Ive had 2; ram c/ v and just gut a ProMaster City and there's no going back for me the shelving inside makes it so much better
So, a cargo van comparison without mentioning the cargo area, capacity or dimensions...hmmm.
Hey at least they tried.. nobody else is doing this
You can look up the specs…
Lol this is what I was thinking….if the point of these vehicles is hauling and drivability doesn’t matter why wouldn’t they discuss the thing everyone buys these things for….
Yeah… lol
All I know is that the Ram Promaster City has 9 cubic feet more cargo space than the Nissan NV200. I traded my NV200 work van to the Ram due to the extra space. But, to me, the Ram has much more power (doesn't have a CVT transmission) and is more comfortable.
Find someone new to mix the music. It's a nice quiet voice and then... DOOO DO DO DO DO DOOOO DO DO DO DO!!!!!
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What about reliability? Maintenance intervals? Common mechanical issues? Things we really wanna know if we're considering buying one..
why would you complain about hard plastics in a work van. duh it's suppose to have hard plastic for durability purposes. you wouldn't want some leather stitched, soft interior in a work van....
Hahahha
Yea,actually I would like leather stitched in my Ford Transit. They completely disregarded driver comfort in this vehicle.
I really like your videos, but whoever is editing them should turn the music down. I found myself increasing volume when you were talking and then having to turn it down for the music.
Yes. Annoying loud as Bloody Hell
So much that we quit watching!!
I want a review from company owners who have had them for 5 years.
newstart49 we have had the Promaster city for 2.5 yrs now and it is fantastic, traded in a Nv200 for it after only being able to stand the Nv 200 for 6 months., to be fair it was in the shop for a large portion of that time...
why was the NV200 in the shop?
Well can tell you I work for a very large corporation that has fleet vehicles across the world and we have done away with the pro master this year....multiple engine failures in my branch alone....and we are only talking about 15 vehicles and we turn vehicles in at 80k miles for a new one. We swapped to the transits but have no info on them yet as I am the first one getting one this week.
wouldn't be possible for the Ram as its new to the market
@@MrRay3801 Ya I worked out of a promaster for 6 months and saw it in the shop twice for electrical and transmission issues. When it was time to start my own business the transit was my choice. I now have 10000 miles on it and even tow a trailer and no issues. I love it
I think I like the Promaster City the best. I like the 2-seater SLT version with alloy wheels and body color bumpers. You can also get swing-out side and rear glass on the Ram, nice if you don't want to use A/C all the time, or if you want to camp in it on the weekends. It would make a great alternative to a small pickup truck. Just a super useful vehicle.
you just got paid to say that.
I have the ProMaster City for 3 months. Runs well. The only drawback I found is it does not come with a spare tire or the mechanism to carry the spare tire. You can buy it as an addition for $742 installed. Or carry a can of Fix-A-Flat
Fix-a-flat wont fix a blowout
This is a van review. How do they do climbing a steep hill w/a load? How about getting onto & passing on a highway? Best for big dog, bikes, camping/hunting/fishing equipment? Oh yeah, which is easiest to load & unload tools, equipment, ladders etc... I only learned which is best for driving empty around a parking lot.
The Nissan NV200 is also a rebadged 2016 Chevy City Express. Lots of horror stories about the previous Nissan's CVT transmissions. I believe CVT's have a higher failure rate then automatics. Their supposed to be cheaper to built but still cost $5k to replace.
they have a 5 year/100k mile warranty, so you shouldn't have to pay to replace them...until the warranty is up, of course.
I don't know what the payload is on a caravan but for less money you get fold in floor seats more floor space and a v-6 that gets pretty good MPG. I would get a caravan over any of these. the only plus I see is more height in the rear when loading.
They did actually make a panel body caravan sold under ram
If Toyota brought the hi ace to the states, I would trade my 2020 ORP 4runner in for one.
That Nissan is very undertired. When I saw it at the San Diego Auto Show, I couldn't believe that they put P185/60s on it. That's smaller than even those on small cars today. I can't imagine the emergency handling is very secure.
We have 4 promaster city vans. They're constantly in the shop for warranty work/defects. I do not recommend this vehicle.
We have 8 Promaster City. They are excellent
How can this be taken seriously? You say you prefer spending time in the Dodge because of the feel? The dodge had an insulated interior with seating and likely carpet in the rear. The other two were straight up work/cargo vans. It looks like you were going through the gates at the Dodge factory too? These are the reviews on UA-cam that kill anyone looking for a legit opinion.
Also, said the Dodge was more expensive "as tested". They cost more when they have seats.
Too much jumping around, no focus, one second the back was empty, the next it had shelves with no explanation.
Ya dumb! Drive an insulated van vs a steel sided cargo then say the insulated is a better ride?? IDIOT
We need an update version of this video, I've watched this like 3 times.
I've had my 2015 Ford Transit Connect XLT 1.6L ecoboost since 2015. 235K miles and never an engine problem. Driven at least 200 city miles per day. I couldn't be happier. The Turbo has recently sprung a leak though. So still not bad. I always drove it like a race car and it held up.
Mine doesn't have the turbo I'm kinda glad one more thing to replace . But def not as zippy, I have the 2013. Base model Transit connect
I just bought a 2016 with 70k mikes-lwb xlt, is there anything I should know moving forward for work purposes?
@@Aglassact77 The turbo was just a gasket situation. Easy fix. Keep an eye on the trans brace. it's aluminum and may crack. When you eventually change tie rods I suggest after market with swappable tips, Ford OEM is a single piece. So far Ford OEM struts are the best. I've tried 3 different types. Firestone has a $200 lifetime alignment.
I got a 2017 Nissan NV200 SV.
I'm loving it!!
get back to us in 5 years when the warranty ends.
Basically a Chevy City Express.
how was the experience?
I've had a 2017 transit for 4 years and it's been perfect with no problems.
How many miles?
I'm looking to buy one used 2017.
@@RB-es1vx I'm at 114,000
I would like to see Honda and Toyota come out with some work vans like this
Toyota has the Proace City that they brought over to the EU, but nothing state side yet. Funnily enough, all of these cargo vans existed in the EU/Asia already. What sucks though is the ones that are here in the US are hard to get. The NV was discontinued here in the US, while the Transit Connect is made in Spain, and the Ram is made in Turkey.
Good gracious, the music sounds like Toon Town.
Yeah, I had to stop the video 2 minutes in. I'll go find a less irritating review.
Missed giving cargo dimensions. sq. ft. is less in the Nissan, but from what I've found, if correct, it's taller AND wider in the back - important for a stealth camping van conversion...
I have the first gen Tranist connect. It is a few inches taller than the NV. I think it has the best cargo room for a camper conversion
WOAH THEY GOT GLASS OUT THE FRONT WHERE YOU CAN SEE THROUGH AND IT HELPS WITH PARKING?!?!?! WHAT A GRETA INOVASION
learn to spell, smartass
Do yourselves a favor and see which of these 3 can fit a motorcycle. Youll get over a million views.
Terrible review, spend less time on that annoying whistle song and talk about handling, ergonomics, noise levels, etc.
True like this basic white girl tutorial song
Really? What color girls do you like?
shutyap! LOL
True
Really? You are asking a dumb question on a car review video
Im a painting contractor and I have owned my nv200 van since 2013, 70k miles later the only problems so far were window washer hose loose and one sliding door lock loose. The nv200 now offers the best warranty and is the best value out there now. I just got a 2018 2 months ago.
Same here how is the nissan NV200 going? Have you gotten amy issues?
@edgar Hey boss I was looking at one of these to start my painting business. do you know if the van is big enough to hold a 24’ aluminum extension ladders?
@@jrock8233 my 2 vans are still going strong without issues,the continental tires are better on my 2018 the treads are more aggressive. With the adrian steel basic aluminum ladder racks Im able to move basically any ladder.
After 85k miles on the 2013 and 20k miles on the 2018 Im very pleased with my vans. No problems at all, synthetic oil every 7500 miles. With the 100k miles warranty I think is a really good value for the money.
@@jrock8233at nissan ask fot the free adrian steel upfit #4963 is a very good simple rack. I use it with the home depot heavy duty green bungee cords to tie my ladders.
The Ram is a Fiat Doblo except the engine, drive-train and suspension, those are Chrysler and the best of the three imo. It's assembled in Turkey.
The last "why don't we have an American van" comment was pretty lame. I drove a bunch of weird Euro vans in Germany then came back to the US- what a come down the Econoline was to drive after VW Tansporter and Mercedes Sprinter. Americans are good at designing big trucks but not everyone in America lives in Texas or Detroit. Some of us (aka most people on the Eastern Seaboard) live in cities/towns where parking and road width are somewhat comparable to Europe.
While a 9-speed sounds great - it's a nightmare, before you buy a promaster I suggest you google the problems with that transmission. It's the same one in the cherokee and I have heard very few good long term reviews on anything with that 9-speed
All of these vans have potential issues. Lots of problems and complaints regarding the Nissan CVTs. Plenty of drive axle/trans seal leak complaints on the Transit Connects. The 9 speed auto in the Pro C is a wild card, FCA has had a lot of issues with it, albeit mainly in 2014-15. None of these three vans are a solid no brainer pick from a reliability standpoint...all have had some glitches.
You can thank ever increasing government fuel economy regulations. These force manufacturers to try less proven technologies in an attempt to raise MPG. The consumer ends up being the beta tester. Similar now to the 1970's in a way.
Nissan cvt is worse
My transit connect has a 6sp
@@rabbitruck The 9 speed has had alot of hard jerky shift complaints but very few outright failures.
@Parker Weatly yep, but when I commented -six years ago- this was an unknown
Got the Promaster City (1/7/2016). So far happy with it. I do not feel comfortable driving large cars. With this van, I can sense where all the corners are. Drives like a car. Working on putting in flooring and insulation. I sell board games at conventions and have expanded to solar cookers for RV and camping shows.
+Bobby Allen Yeehaa, Long live the FIat Doblò!
I think I’m about to get one myself to travel in. Still liking it?
OMG! What a beauty that older Dodge is! In black that hides the black trim on the Ram it will look better. But once again you failed to mention the best advantage of the Ram, that equals the higher load rating, that is the fully independent suspension! Where as the two others have rear beam axels! If I was to buy one of these? I would buy the higher trim level Ram, in silver that looks great, plus can be spec out with the UCONNECT System with telematics! I’ve had the pleasure of testing all the vans on the American mkt. I must say the best all around small sized van is the Ram. As far as full size goes, that would also go to the Ram. However if you do not need to stand up with a high roof, the oldest designed standby, the full sized Chevy Express has been built for many years and has proven to be very dependable! The newest had the very good baby DuraMax diesel available! With a great mileage history! Or a powerful 6.0 gas V8 with a high tow rating. Plus an aftermarket 4x4AWD option.
I own the Ford and it's a great van that does exactly what I need for my job. He didn't mention that the Ford has a Long Wheel base model that makes it the biggest capacity van in the class by quite a bit, or that you can get it with the ecoboost engine and then it has pretty much the same hp as the Ram. The sliding doors also lock. The ford is in it's second generation and they fixed every problem from the older transit. After test driving, and doing all the research, the other 2 vans were not even close. Just my opinion.
Mikey Blaze the only engine the Transit Connect comes with is a 2.5L 4-cylinder, and there are no wheelbase options for it either. But the Transit full-size van is what you’re talking about.
The Transit Connect (cargo and pax) comes in RWB and LWB versions:
www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/transit-connect-cargo-van/models/transit-connect-xlt/
Cargo areas
Promaster City = 131.7 cu ft
Transit Connect LWB = 128.6 cu ft
Nissan NV200 = 127.7 cu ft
Transit Connect RWB = 103.9 cu ft
I love my 2013 transit
Which engine do you have in your van, and what do you use your van for at work? Haul tools, equipment, materials? I like the Transit Connect, but would wonder if they'd do well in the snow/ice we can get here in Idaho.
Ford Transit is much smoother ride and more comfortable, also is the only with 2.5 liters
No mention of the warranties in the NV 200 has a 100000 mile warranty for the others are only like 36000 miles
Good video if the volume is down boy scout whistling drove me nuts
NV200 is the only one offering cargo van only.
also taxi for nyc
I say the Nissan NV200. These cars can run 24 hours a day and 7 days a week and it’s been proven to be true just look at the Nyc yellow cabs.
The cvt transmission are known to be junk
My 2018 ford transit connect have so many transmission issues like it downshifts to first and then back up randomly while cruising at about 35 40 mph seems like somebody rear ends me several times a day lately. It’s only one month old and I already dropped it off at the dealer to look at the transmission they said it either needs to be reset or maybe it’s a mechanical issue but reading up online apparently a lot of people have issues with these transmissions.
sad to hear. I've got a '92 Ford Ranger pickup with 200k miles of some pretty heavy winter mountain driving on it and I've never had any problems...guess they don't made Fords like they used to.
The song you chose is hilarious in a van review because it seems mental with a van
Wow 24-29 mpg, wtf??? Ounce again we are not getting these vehicles with Diesel engines in the USA. The Ford comes with a 1.6 L diesel that gets 61 mpg in England. It sure would be nice to have the choices of cars and car engines like they have in Europe but the land of the free continues to be the land of stupidity when it comes to cars and trucks .
They use different metrics in Europe to judge MPG. That 61 MPG is probably closer to 40 MPG with the EPA, but still way more than the stated 25 MPG. But diesel vehicles in America are much more expensive to buy because of the need for costly emission systems that also reduce the cars reliability. Commercial customers want a low purchase price and and low maintenance costs.
Andreas Modl The "down-side" of Diesel Engines (modern ones), is maintenance & repairs are usually very pricey.
Charles Schutz A US gallon is far smaller than an Imperial (UK) gallon as well, this is going to distort any MPG figures as a direct comparison for US v UK figures. Maintenance of modern common rail diesel engines is not a pricey as some people would have you believe.
Differences in economy levels aside, the bevvy of EXTRA OPTIONS that Europe gets on the Ford Connect Van makes the N.A Version look like a Cookie Tin with Wheels. Perhaps it is much more expensive there. To Me, the Connect seems expensive.
btw Our System of Measures was Imperial also! Basically it's 5L is Imperial Gallon. We were only Metric until "free (frikken expensive if you ask Me) trade" was signed. Now, we pay for S.I. Metric Litres & get handed U.S. Quarts! (a slightly smaller amount) A rip off.
The Politicians & the big Corporations are no doubt happy with the situation.
yep thats why the mustang in the usa is faster, looks better, and overall performs better due to not as many restrictions.
The problem is they are not made for the driver who sits in it all day. The Dodge outside mirror control is to far to reach to adjust the mirror while sitting in the seat. They should all have rear cameras and built for driver comfort besides the hauling specs. All the vans look bad with the small wheels and tires.
One of the drawbacks, though it wasn't directly alluded to in the review, is that wider wheels/tires would make the bad turning circles of these vehicles even worse.
Go to the aftermarket though, each of these vans has a selection of wheels available for it, the Dodge has an odd bolt pattern so it has the fewest optional wheels. The Ford, being basically a Focus with a different body, has the best selection.
This music... I feel like I should be watching Derek D run around the LA auto show, rolling on the plush carpeting in the Audi booth, and talking to Megan the Fiat model. Hey, where's AK and Erica?!
The Nissan NV IMO is junk. Their full size van better competes in its class. I think Ford has the best overall small van. The 6sp is great, and it also makes available the 1.6 ecoboost. The Ford is also available with dual sliding doors, and you get rear swing doors, or liftgate options.
The Ram is great but the 9 speed has proved troublesome. The 2.4 is tried and true, and it makes the most use of space. Chryco has always been good about that. All the way back to their Ram unibody Vans
I bought Ram even though I wanted the Ford. Drove them all before I bought. Ram blows the rest away. Interior feels comfortable. Drives like a car and I find I just like every features it has. Nissan was cheap with a great warranty but felt like it was ready to fall apart. Ford was nice like the ram but I heard they go through tires every season. Even though I originally wasn't a Ram fan... I'm happy I went Ram, I get better mileage than they predicted which is the biggest benefit. Has good pick up too (Ford did too)
Whistling makes me want to KIL KIL KILLLL KIL KEEELLLLL. GREAT review all the same thanks!
I would have liked to even hear you talk about the Ford Transit connect with the 1.6 eco boost,
People arguing over vans. A whole video review on vans! This is so cute!
I used to drive a Transit Connect about 350 miles on one of my work days then just around town other days.
My only complaint is my company didn't let us have cruise control, it is an addon for the cargo vans, and the handle on the driver side broke.
There. I just did a better review than you did and I didn't have a horribly over used whistling song.
The ProMaster City should ride a bit better since it has coil springs out back instead of leafs. Other than that I suppose they all haul stuff. The extended Ford and the Ram are about the same size and price so there isn't much to sway one way or the other there.
Driver feel in the Promaster City is superior. It also has great pickup and response compared to Ford and Nissan. In Florida, the speedometer can not be seen due to the massive amount of sunlight that comes in. The Amber lighting is okay for night but crappy for daylight.
PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! TOYOTA WOULD MAKE A CARGO VAN FOR US.....!🙏♥️🙂
Feel like ram paid more for this video. Hey showed it loaded with cargo and storage compartments, How many time did he say “best in class” the Ford rear doors also open wide and side door locks as well. Enough with the annoying song also. Turn it down in editing at least...
Looks like it was a ram demo. All brands take them out and give them talking point sheets. That's how this works, man.
Buying a used mazda5 and striping the interior for work or a job just makes more sense. Used low milage can be had under 10k
Cool idea.
Got one. Alot of leak problems. Anywhere there is rubber sealing it seems like they used thin rubber for their seals. Vacuum, axle, engine mount, suspension parts have blown or leaking seals. Body is very strong well built. Engineering seems top notch except for fighter jet style cockpit. Seems designed for small people. Seats are easily removed. Too bad the floor isn't flatter. Excellent reliability though far off the Toyota mark. Seems like they used Mitsubishi parts suppliers rather than Toyota Honda suppliers.
lose the music....talk about gas tank capacity, etc etc etc disappointing review.......not enough comparison head to head
Would you guys choose the ford or dodge based on reliability not breaking down and parts?
You forgot to mention that the Ram promaster have a lot of issues and almost every parts you have to buy it at the dealer and guess what ? Most of the parts are in back order and you will have no van to work for a month or 2
Good luck with the Promaster
Which van is the best built and the most reliable? Of course longer wheelbase vehicles have a larger turning radius.
"it has a lot of noise but not a lot of power" during acceleration - sounds like my KIA Soul. I can't wait till I pay it off and get at least a 6 cylider pickup or van.
It would be nice if they offered a manual transmission - much better driving experience and better fuel economy with a stick
...optional 4WD would be a bonus
I agree, but, unfortunately, hardly anyone in the US knows how to drive a manual trans...they practically disappeared over here decades ago.
Yep a stick would be cool
Sorry but if I'm using this for my business tooling around in cities all day with all that stop and go driving, the last thing I want is to be constantly shifting gears.
@@RicardoRoams you obviously don't know how to drive a manual transmission vehicle
@@suntzu1370 , And you obviously don't know anything about me or you wouldn't make such an idiotic statement. I was probably driving a stick before you were born. The point is, for me, the fun and novelty of driving a manual transmission ended long ago. Now it would be just a pain to have to be pushing a clutch pedal and shifting gears all the time. I live in an urban area with a lot of traffic and stop and start driving. If you want to drive a manual transmission, fine. More power to ya. But unless I'm going to drive a Ferrari or a Porsche, I'll take the automatic.
Parking in my 2015 Promaster City with zero windows in the back is very easy to park. Cargo safety means no glass. Always get cruise control and use it. It helps to prevent tickets.
Really rude to blast the music so loud that I have to turn it down, then I can't hear what he has to say.
Hard to watch with the terrible music. My 13 yr old could have reviewed better. Get someone who actually uses these type vans for work to review them. You can't compare a passenger setup to cargo setups.
Although the ram is best features, it still wins most likely to break down under 30,000 miles
The Chevy City Express is hands down the better vehicle. Same dimensions as the Nissan NV200 as well as MPG and Tank Capacity.
However, the Nissan NV200 has a lower towing capacity and a lower payload capacity.
good luck finding a Chevy City Express...it has been discontinued.
Nissan NV200 all the way!
do you still say that now 1 year later?
Update 2021 Nissan is no longer selling new vans
Chevy stop selling the new city express/ NV200 in 2018
Recon Campers is also not selling any campers vans at this time
this video would be so much better without the music.
Paid for by Dodge? the other two were bare bones work vans. The dodge was a passenger van, then there was the fully done work van with shelving and footage with being loaded with a forklift and then there was the white one going over the speed bumps. There were 3 possibly 4 different version of the Promaster....seems fishy
I've worked out of Chevy Astro vans all my life and can't find something new to replace it. Why does the market jump from these compact under powered matchbox vans (like the ones in this video) to the bulky 3/4+ ton gas guzzling full size vans? Is a 6 cylinder short wheelbase 1/2 ton mid size cargo van too much to ask for?
loudpipesavelives69
I agree .. I miss my astro . Best working van I had.
I always wanted an astro new. I got a transit connect. It's a good vehicle but kinda gay for sure. No frame front drive. Its definitely not a truck
the feds killed the lighter vans. they put the vans between 5500 and 8499 gvw van into the cars cafe gas mileage totals so the makers elimited every full size vans under 8500 gvw so if you need room but not a heavy load truck
forcing 1/3 of van buyers to buy heaver trucks, which gets lower mileage, costs more to run tag and tolls.
this was under obama's years supposably to increase mileage but in fact caused more fuel to burn
Mercedes metris would be your answer
Great Review, very helpful. Having your cameraman drop the exposure so the footage is not blown out would greatly improve the technical quality.
5 y after ram 2.4l world engine multi air burning more oil then fuel ..and Ford Transit transmission issues ..and I don't know about Nissan nv CVT if any good .. maybe Nissan is good enough for little longer than rest.
Most videos are pretty good. But they should be called Previews! Since the vehicles have not been tested for years then reviewed.
I found the most annoying feature of all three was the dang whistling noise.
I'm still waiting to see one of these fitted out as a modern day shaggin-wagon. I wonder if those sliders will clear a set of porthole windows? :-)
I like how your channel does comparisons against all types of vehicles.
For short runs in the city I'd probably go with the cheaper Nizzan! If I planned on hitting the highway and spending alot of time in it the Ram.
I want to transport a CBR300 and CBR600RR in a van. I'm pretty sure they will fit in a NV200, but only just barely. They will easily fit in a Transit Connect long wheelbase version and the Ram, so I need to decide between those two.
Ram van for comfort, Nissan Van for nimbleness and lowest cost, Ford for all-around competence. All depends on what features you value more! The Nissan lack of true highway gearing due to simplistic CVT is a notable detriment, imo...
Warranty?
Nissan is 100,000 or 5 years.
Others can't touch that.
With the smallest engine and CV transmission, the Nissan needs the best warranty.
100 000miles = 160 000km or 5 years, which ever comes first. Also 12 year no-rust warranty. best fuel economy and lowest price as new. Only thing is it's small cargo size, but compared to these two it's not that much different. Looks are negotiable. It's still better looking than Fiat Multipla and Fiat Fiorino. Sadly the electric version costs about 10k more, which puts it in same price-range with bigger diesel vans.
Ya but in 100000 miles it'll go through 3 transmission. Covered? Sure but what about the hassle and down time? Cvts have no business in a work vehicle and forget about towing a trailet
NW CHICAGO SUBURBS
Yeah because they know that their vehicles are junk
We do still have big useless american vans. The express and the econoline, which havent changed since they came out decades ago and use 4 gears and have v8 engines that only make 200hp. About time we finally get something useful. Not to mention the ram gets 30 mpg while econoline struggles to get 15 mpg. Body on frame is not light or efficient anymore. These so-called "pee-shooters" actually have as much space as an express or and econoline and actually have more height on the interior because they dont have a freaking steel chassis under the floor. These little things make total sense.
I went from a Chevy express 2500 to a ford transit connect and it’s a handy little vehicle if you’re delivering pillows or Styrofoam lol. Once you get it loaded with tools and other things it really had a hard time staying at 70 mph on the interstate without the engine screaming all the time and drinking gas. Luckily the company I work for let me pass it on to somebody else and I moved back into my 05 express was 260,000 miles on it. It rides better it has twice the power it’s quieter and it gets about 17 miles per gallon on the highway that’s not too bad with the 4.8 L V8. Hopefully I can try the little Ram next and see how it does. I’ve heard rumors we may be getting some. we’ll see.
What about reliability factors and repairs
What about RELIABI:LITY - esp. Transmission & engine !!! Looks are SECONDARY!
Nice review, Roman, thanks! I want to buy a van for a DIY conversion to go touring. Wish you would do a review on slightly larger vans with high tops, preferable diesel engines, and lots of interior room, under 24 ft length.
The Ram has 4 wheel independent suspension.
I like how you can see where the European plate would go on the front of the Ford Transit
it's funny how you show NOTHING of the NV200 cargo carry load cap. as well as the split opening doors as well, like the Promaster... my NV200 gets better mpg. (29 hwy) and has never had a problem. you can also stick a full skid in back just like the other 2... it hauls at full cap. and STILL gets 27-29 hwy... (I was skepical trading in a promaster, but now glad i did)
How long have you had the nv200 ? How much weight can it hold?
How long have you had the nv200? How much weight can it carry? Thanks Robert
What year is your NV200 and how many miles you got on it?
In my country the ram is sold as a Fiat dobló and it only comes with a 90hp 1,4l engine
I like the little jab in your closing statements. I couldn't agree more.
The review was helpful, professionally done. With him often mentioning how all three are very similar, and as that I'm not buying a fleet but just one, I am curious which one will have lowest maintenance over 100K miles. I do some comments on reliability in this thread; curious if there's any quantifiable data.
Do your research on the web. I was going to buy a Rogue but found out that almost all of them (Nissan) have faulty transmissions. One transmission repair person said.."..it will break down, not may or if..." on one UA-cam repair video. There are hundreds of blogs with people complaining about their CVT transmissions on the Rouge. "Caveat emptor"
The biggest disadvantage about Nissan is the arm rest.
this review is leaning heavy on the dodge. the transit has the same door functions as the dodge.
Drive all three, and you'll see why. I've been researching and test driving small cargo vans extensively lately. The Pro C and TC drive way better than the Nissan...no comparison. Both feel a lot quicker, are quieter, and have better suspension compliance. The NV200 comes across as quite coarse, cheap, and under powered when you drive all three back to back.
The Nissan wins in one significant area, price. You can buy one a lot cheaper than the Ford or Ram. When you drive all three, you'll see why. Another huge fail on Nissan's part is lack of a rear seat option. You can spec a Pro C or TC with rear passenger seats. A lot of people haul cargo primarily but passengers occasionally...which rules out the NV200. If you need to haul 3 or 4 guys to a job site...you're out of luck with the Nissan.
The Ram definitely feels the quickest of the three regardless of test numbers. The Ford has the best steering and lowest NVH, feels most like a car as far as driving dynamics.
I'd probably buy the Ram among these three, having spent seat time in all of them.
All of them are somewhat overpriced for what they are, really.
Probably because they were at a RAM event.
why would they put a CVT transmission in a van that have to carry around ALOT of weight
No view of the cargo area in the Nissan?
Nissan looks like a mini van
It took me 3 yrs to get to 24 mpg average. 21 all during the first three years.
There is a leaf stuck in the Nissan's lower front grill
I completely disagree with "The Liar of Ass-Land". This is exactly the perceptions that a real world buyer needs to hear.
I would have never considered a Ram Van, but have decided to check them out.
Sounds like you got paid by dodge
I have the Nissan I made into a tiny home
Wandering Nature what year is your NV200 ? And how many miles on it, looking into converting one to a camper but on the fence because of the transmission
The Nissan obviously has a bigger cargo area than the dodge. I dont understand why the Dodge is advertised as having more
Are you guys going to do an update of this with the newer models?
I have a 2010 and a 2022 Nissan. Bugger all differences. 2010 has automatic transmission, manual windows. 2022 model has CVT transmission, traction control, electric windows, reverse camera.
That Red ProMaster...... what model IS IT?? Looking for VENTED GLASS in side/rear - aka "pop" out windows. Hints & clues welcome. Thanks