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Followed the instructions for the Blackrock team and I got it after less than 10 tries. My average level for the team was 24.6 so that definitely helped out. But I did get both the 2 min win and base 100% win at the same time. Thanks for the help!!
depends, if murk-eye is in the start hand, the initial push benefits greatly from CD, indeed. but if the start hand is bad and/or the huntress spawn is bad, ghoul+sheep+wd can kill the initial enemy push, and then the murk-eye + murloc + rest push + turnaround with quill do need the wd to kill the sheeped huntress.
Worked for me after a few tries. It heavily depends on the boss' opening, and I found that it's better to wait for some gold and let the boss play its minis first. Great guide, as always.
I always get a bog spawning at that stone to start so makes it tricky to get the dark iron miner in there undetected, plus immediate pressure from the bog.
Just got my achievement with a crappy opener and different ai behavior! For anyone saying that the AI is different for him or not giving you the same opener, that's pretty normal - the AI will have different openers against different accounts and that sucks. But I just got my "under 2 minutes" achievement with an absolute dog water opening hand, in addition to different AI, too. I was Blackrock, because my Drakk has a boost slot, which I dropped the harpies into. I recommend using a deck you have a boost slot with, either for troll or harpies. Cheat death boost will work in a pinch. My opening hand was dark iron dwarf, cheat death, kobold, earth ele. Play dark iron on the stone to get gold pile. Immediately send kobold too right. AI answers by sending spiders from left. Now I have harpies and safe pilot in hand, plus ele and cheat death. Sometimes, I would drop my safe on top of the spiders, but then the enemy would play harpies from the top that I couldn't kill. Sometimes, the AI would put a Starfall on my base or on my kobold. Sometimes I would wait to play harpies left (like OG did) for timing, and the AI would drop a bog beast or moonkin that would kill or waylay half my harpies. The answer is to WAIT! Do not play anything except for dark iron dwarf and kobold. 9/10 times the AI star falls my base or my kobold at this point. My gold was overcapped for several seconds. As the boss is crossing the bridge, play harpies on far left of the middle stone. Now I have Drakk in hand. AI has, for me, always played harpies from top now (and sometimes also night elf cat lady, whose name I forget ATM). Drop safe pilot on them. Drop troll on the right of the stone, he will be about even with harpies (maybe just behind). Your safe pilot should have fired and had the boss turn around to look, buying you time. The Dwarf should also be nearby to draw attention. Drop Earth ele on the far right if those are not drawing attention, so that the boss has to spin and look. You will be slowly rebuilding gold, and at the last possible second, you should be able to drop cheat death on your harpies to secure the kill. I did this with 22/23 level units, not counting the boost slot harpies.
Had to use my overbuffed drak with 5 diamond slots and boost slot for harpies, swapped out troll for execute, and was able to get both the 2 minute and zero damage tasks completed! Legend advice as always OG - thanks!
It took about 20 attempts with Tirion to get the AI to cooperate, but I got it done with the same army. I also lucked out and got the no barracks damage challenge done at the same time. Thanks, OG!
I got it on the F2P account while doing this, but I have not found a consistent way to do it unless you have at least level 24 minis or higher, in which case the Druid duo with Frostwolf Shaman having the base-healing talent works.
Poison stacks are unlimited, so you can get more dps from poison than from anything else in the game. It takes a while to build it up, but it keeps going for 5 seconds even after all your minis are dead, so it can often finish the last 10% or more of a boss even with no further attacks.
@@OldGuardian ohhhh, maybe that's it then. I wish this game had more details instead of having to Google everything. I'll beat the last two bosses and try again. I didn't want to beat them in case next event has beat a boss as a task
The bundles are offered dynamically based on your previous spending. I have not been able to track how the tiers work and if you are always offered all three no matter which one you start from or not.
@@OldGuardian well, Cenarion bundles were predictable. 1st week - Onu and Ancient of War 2nd week - Cenarius and Bog beast 3rd week - Moonkin I bought all the 1st week bundles, (both epic), 2nd week all Bog beast and 1 Cenarius (bought 15 stars from the grid, so no need) Each time 2 "epic" bundles appeared 1 day after an initial one. This week the "epic" Moonkin bundles did not appear. I just wanted to know if it is only for me or they have not been released yet.
IMPOSSIBLE I tried all comps. and I do not have same talents. I never get DI Miner at starting hand. it is always 6th or 7th to spawn. how is it possible? or how can I change rotation of minis?
In Heroic campaign, the random seed is rolled when you first do the fight, and it stays the same until you win it with any Leader. You can change your opening hand by changing the slots your minis are in: swap Dark Iron Miner with one of the minis in your opening hand, and you will have the Dark Iron Miner in your opening hand instead.
To those complaining that "this doesn't work" or "Blizzard must have patched it" - you're wrong. It absolutely works. Just did it 2 minutes ago. The keys you need to keep in mind are: 1) You don't need to follow OG's deployments frame by frame. You can substitute some mini's or talents to suit your roster better. For example, I had a level 25 Quillboar, but only a level 21 Earth Elemental, so I swapped in my Quillboar and got significantly more value from it for less gold. I also didn't see much value in the SAFE Pilot, so I swapped in a Huntress instead, giving me more control over the enemy Harpies, Faerie Dragons, Spiders, etc. 2) The most important part is the TIMING. Don't expect to watch the video, fire up the game, and get a victory in your first attempt. It's gonna take a dozen or so attempts as you fine tune the timings. For me, having 2x Trolls arrive at the same time while Tirion's Divine Shield & Quillboar soaked all of the damage from a safe distance was what I needed. On MANY attempts I failed because I deployed the first Troll too early, and the second one too late. For me, deploying the Dark Iron Miner right at the beginning wasn't an option. The AI always beat me to the punch with 3x Spiders and a Moonkin. So I had to adjust my timings. My Dark Iron Miner wasn't deployed until around 30 seconds into the match. Find what works for you. 3) Remember, these battles aren't scripted. The AI will respond to what you do and where you do it, so if you find that you can't even get near the boss because he's surrounded by a huge deathball of minions, recognise that those minions were deployed in response to something you had previously deployed to the lane. You can bait the AI into deploying "useless" stuff into the wrong lane just by doing something like sending a Kobold there. In my case, the AI literally dumped an entire Earth and Moon spell onto my Kobold, while the rest of my army was safely ignored. Pay attention! 4) The boss will always alternate between the two closest targets. Do not expect to tank his attacks with 1 unit while your Trolls unload. You need to have two mini's nearby to keep the boss facing away from you permanently. Divine Shield + Cheat Death make this possible for an extended period of time. If you're not succeeding, don't blame OG. He's doing 90% of the heavy lifting for you, but you still need to use a few brain cells to get it across the line. I was 100% convinced I wouldn't complete EITHER of the Heroic objectives for this Cenarion event. I already sunk hours into it, with no success. This video made it possible to complete BOTH objectives in the same run. Thanks OG, your content continues to be an endless gold mine.
@@OldGuardian just tried on every hero the encounter always use the same opening tank moonkin from the chest making a deathball adding another unit in reaponse to anything that i play and responds to my harpies with huntress as soon as I use them the AI also uses starfall or roots on my troll to prevent the combo.
~40 attempts and I have yet to see OGs opener a single time. Afraid this doesn't work anymore. This isn't a reflection on you OG but the "have this perfect opener and the stars will align with harpies and the boss spinning" strat videos just make me super angry because I never have success with them. Feels more like "just get lucky with the AI or you lose" and not an actual strategy. Felt the same way with the golemagg strat. Just my feedback. Love your videos though.
@@MisterTurley OG has shown extensive videos in the past explaining why different players get different results. It's a core feature of the game. You can't just copy what you saw someone do on UA-cam. You need to adapt.
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Followed the instructions for the Blackrock team and I got it after less than 10 tries. My average level for the team was 24.6 so that definitely helped out. But I did get both the 2 min win and base 100% win at the same time. Thanks for the help!!
Another option is the fairy dragon boss with murk eye, murlocs, ghoul, wd, sheep, miner, quill, works quite well.
Yeah, I did both quests with murkeye on faerie's map
oh wow thx man! did it 1st try 20,3 lvl army, also base took 0 dmg, I guess hex could be also swapped by CD 👍👏
depends, if murk-eye is in the start hand, the initial push benefits greatly from CD, indeed. but if the start hand is bad and/or the huntress spawn is bad, ghoul+sheep+wd can kill the initial enemy push, and then the murk-eye + murloc + rest push + turnaround with quill do need the wd to kill the sheeped huntress.
Worked for me after a few tries. It heavily depends on the boss' opening, and I found that it's better to wait for some gold and let the boss play its minis first. Great guide, as always.
I always get a bog spawning at that stone to start so makes it tricky to get the dark iron miner in there undetected, plus immediate pressure from the bog.
Send Harpies to kill it, see if anything spawns to counter them or not. If not, it's a great opener.
Worked like a charm, great video OG!
Just got my achievement with a crappy opener and different ai behavior!
For anyone saying that the AI is different for him or not giving you the same opener, that's pretty normal - the AI will have different openers against different accounts and that sucks. But I just got my "under 2 minutes" achievement with an absolute dog water opening hand, in addition to different AI, too.
I was Blackrock, because my Drakk has a boost slot, which I dropped the harpies into. I recommend using a deck you have a boost slot with, either for troll or harpies. Cheat death boost will work in a pinch.
My opening hand was dark iron dwarf, cheat death, kobold, earth ele.
Play dark iron on the stone to get gold pile. Immediately send kobold too right. AI answers by sending spiders from left.
Now I have harpies and safe pilot in hand, plus ele and cheat death.
Sometimes, I would drop my safe on top of the spiders, but then the enemy would play harpies from the top that I couldn't kill. Sometimes, the AI would put a Starfall on my base or on my kobold. Sometimes I would wait to play harpies left (like OG did) for timing, and the AI would drop a bog beast or moonkin that would kill or waylay half my harpies.
The answer is to WAIT! Do not play anything except for dark iron dwarf and kobold. 9/10 times the AI star falls my base or my kobold at this point. My gold was overcapped for several seconds.
As the boss is crossing the bridge, play harpies on far left of the middle stone. Now I have Drakk in hand. AI has, for me, always played harpies from top now (and sometimes also night elf cat lady, whose name I forget ATM). Drop safe pilot on them. Drop troll on the right of the stone, he will be about even with harpies (maybe just behind). Your safe pilot should have fired and had the boss turn around to look, buying you time. The Dwarf should also be nearby to draw attention. Drop Earth ele on the far right if those are not drawing attention, so that the boss has to spin and look. You will be slowly rebuilding gold, and at the last possible second, you should be able to drop cheat death on your harpies to secure the kill. I did this with 22/23 level units, not counting the boost slot harpies.
Had to use my overbuffed drak with 5 diamond slots and boost slot for harpies, swapped out troll for execute, and was able to get both the 2 minute and zero damage tasks completed!
Legend advice as always OG - thanks!
It took about 20 attempts with Tirion to get the AI to cooperate, but I got it done with the same army. I also lucked out and got the no barracks damage challenge done at the same time. Thanks, OG!
Gz i also got both cenarian quests done in the one attempt at Brumeran
Great video! I’ll try this later today. Sadly I don’t have poison troll
its impossible to do it with out good troll or luck on the armies waves
You can use Execute as a replacement to give Harpies Bloodlust.
Thanks for you great content. I got nervous since my troll is rare but dumb me die not take poison talent and epic troll is very far away
I can’t get this to work for me, but you made it look easy lol
You can also ZERG the Feary Dragon boss with Murk-Eye
I’ve also don’t got the poison ☠️ trolls 😢
I don't either used healing troll. And coming in hot for other mini
Thx ❤
This got me both 2 minutes and full base health
how about the full health achievement?
I got it on the F2P account while doing this, but I have not found a consistent way to do it unless you have at least level 24 minis or higher, in which case the Druid duo with Frostwolf Shaman having the base-healing talent works.
I thought this was the 2 min challenge. I didn't see this for the full health base challenge?
So use this deck for the druid duo?
@@sniperfx20 This can get you the full health too, but not reliably.
@@sniperfx20 No. The deck from the guide for that boss, but with base heal talent on shaman.
Blizzard is following OG too, that’s the reason why AI changed opening
Nothing has changed with this fight since Moonglade was released.
Done. ✅ Ty OG
Is there something specifically useful about poison stacking? Or is it just accumulating more damage generally.
Poison stacks are unlimited, so you can get more dps from poison than from anything else in the game. It takes a while to build it up, but it keeps going for 5 seconds even after all your minis are dead, so it can often finish the last 10% or more of a boss even with no further attacks.
@@OldGuardian oh cool. Thanks!
Mine is bugged for this and no base damage quest... Done it so many times and won't give me credit for it.
That's a new one. Are you sure you have Moonglade Heroics unlocked? You need to have done Moonglade in normal to get the Heroic version.
@@OldGuardian ohhhh, maybe that's it then. I wish this game had more details instead of having to Google everything. I'll beat the last two bosses and try again. I didn't want to beat them in case next event has beat a boss as a task
I wonder where the moonkin epic bundle is. Is there any info on the bundle trees?
The bundles are offered dynamically based on your previous spending. I have not been able to track how the tiers work and if you are always offered all three no matter which one you start from or not.
@@OldGuardian well, Cenarion bundles were predictable.
1st week - Onu and Ancient of War
2nd week - Cenarius and Bog beast
3rd week - Moonkin
I bought all the 1st week bundles, (both epic), 2nd week all Bog beast and 1 Cenarius (bought 15 stars from the grid, so no need)
Each time 2 "epic" bundles appeared 1 day after an initial one.
This week the "epic" Moonkin bundles did not appear.
I just wanted to know if it is only for me or they have not been released yet.
It's because Moon kin is an awful mini and your God is trying to safe you from wasting money
IMPOSSIBLE
I tried all comps. and I do not have same talents.
I never get DI Miner at starting hand. it is always 6th or 7th to spawn. how is it possible?
or how can I change rotation of minis?
In Heroic campaign, the random seed is rolled when you first do the fight, and it stays the same until you win it with any Leader. You can change your opening hand by changing the slots your minis are in: swap Dark Iron Miner with one of the minis in your opening hand, and you will have the Dark Iron Miner in your opening hand instead.
@@OldGuardian wow. thank you
You need to watch more OG videos. He has documented multiple times how to determine what mini's will be in your opening hand.
To those complaining that "this doesn't work" or "Blizzard must have patched it" - you're wrong. It absolutely works. Just did it 2 minutes ago.
The keys you need to keep in mind are:
1) You don't need to follow OG's deployments frame by frame. You can substitute some mini's or talents to suit your roster better. For example, I had a level 25 Quillboar, but only a level 21 Earth Elemental, so I swapped in my Quillboar and got significantly more value from it for less gold. I also didn't see much value in the SAFE Pilot, so I swapped in a Huntress instead, giving me more control over the enemy Harpies, Faerie Dragons, Spiders, etc.
2) The most important part is the TIMING. Don't expect to watch the video, fire up the game, and get a victory in your first attempt. It's gonna take a dozen or so attempts as you fine tune the timings. For me, having 2x Trolls arrive at the same time while Tirion's Divine Shield & Quillboar soaked all of the damage from a safe distance was what I needed. On MANY attempts I failed because I deployed the first Troll too early, and the second one too late. For me, deploying the Dark Iron Miner right at the beginning wasn't an option. The AI always beat me to the punch with 3x Spiders and a Moonkin. So I had to adjust my timings. My Dark Iron Miner wasn't deployed until around 30 seconds into the match. Find what works for you.
3) Remember, these battles aren't scripted. The AI will respond to what you do and where you do it, so if you find that you can't even get near the boss because he's surrounded by a huge deathball of minions, recognise that those minions were deployed in response to something you had previously deployed to the lane. You can bait the AI into deploying "useless" stuff into the wrong lane just by doing something like sending a Kobold there. In my case, the AI literally dumped an entire Earth and Moon spell onto my Kobold, while the rest of my army was safely ignored. Pay attention!
4) The boss will always alternate between the two closest targets. Do not expect to tank his attacks with 1 unit while your Trolls unload. You need to have two mini's nearby to keep the boss facing away from you permanently. Divine Shield + Cheat Death make this possible for an extended period of time.
If you're not succeeding, don't blame OG. He's doing 90% of the heavy lifting for you, but you still need to use a few brain cells to get it across the line.
I was 100% convinced I wouldn't complete EITHER of the Heroic objectives for this Cenarion event. I already sunk hours into it, with no success. This video made it possible to complete BOTH objectives in the same run.
Thanks OG, your content continues to be an endless gold mine.
I accidentally completed both challenges while completing heroic Cenarius lol
the Ai has a new opening, this strat doesn't work anymore gg for the ones who got lucky.
Nothing has changed in the last 20 hours.
@@OldGuardian just tried on every hero the encounter always use the same opening tank moonkin from the chest making a deathball adding another unit in reaponse to anything that i play and responds to my harpies with huntress as soon as I use them the AI also uses starfall or roots on my troll to prevent the combo.
~40 attempts and I have yet to see OGs opener a single time. Afraid this doesn't work anymore.
This isn't a reflection on you OG but the "have this perfect opener and the stars will align with harpies and the boss spinning" strat videos just make me super angry because I never have success with them. Feels more like "just get lucky with the AI or you lose" and not an actual strategy. Felt the same way with the golemagg strat. Just my feedback. Love your videos though.
@@MisterTurley yep I guess they did somenthing to fix this strat.
@@MisterTurley OG has shown extensive videos in the past explaining why different players get different results. It's a core feature of the game. You can't just copy what you saw someone do on UA-cam. You need to adapt.