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  • Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
  • The turntable demystified! Whether you're getting into vinyl for the first time or getting back into it for the first time in years, find out what to look for when buying either a new or used player. Belt or direct drive? Rubber or cork? Modern or vintage? And what's the deal with Crosley Cruisers? Let me explain.
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  • @supernowa
    @supernowa 3 роки тому +13

    Just to hear somebody not bragging about themselves, but saying "what the customers said" made me hooked!!!, creds from Sweden

  • @shaynesparkes8740
    @shaynesparkes8740 2 роки тому +4

    As a vintage collector, one rule of thumb which is still true today - that is old audio equipment will always be better in my opinion than the new stuff ( the older models last a heck of a long time and made of better/ heavier materials ). That’s from my experience. Great video for anyone getting turntables as a beginner and in general very interesting thanks for your content ( this guy knows what he’s talking about ). 👏

    • @georgeprice4212
      @georgeprice4212 Рік тому

      Not always. Remember, some cartridges DO have a limited shelf life (crystal cartridge anyone?), and often times, the stylus is most likely no longer being manufactured (B & O anyone?). So, vintage is NOT always the best way to go.

  • @blackwaterdogs4256
    @blackwaterdogs4256 6 років тому +8

    Excellent tutorial, should be very helpful for a new TT shopper. The vintage market is loaded with good values !

  • @arcturusbbqsausagemaking2435
    @arcturusbbqsausagemaking2435 5 років тому +6

    Great video I grew up using turn tables as a kid late 60s early 70s still have my record collection that I started in the late 60s And still have my very first record I ever bought Merrilee Rush Angel of the morning ,And I still love it today as I did when it came out Thank you for the very Informative video.

  • @glennestersohn1655
    @glennestersohn1655 3 роки тому +1

    I have the Sony March 1982 Turntables brochure that includes this model. The PS-LX3 was the middle of three basic LX models. The step-down LX2 was semi-automatic. As mentioned, the step-up LX5 had quartz lock. There were three front loading "FL" models where you could push a button and the turntable would slide out. (This enabled you to place the turntable anywhere in an equipment rack without vertical clearance.) At the top were three X models with the "Biotracer" servo controlled tonearm. The top PS-X800 had tangential tracking. Featured accessories included two MM cartridges, five MC cartridges and two cartridge headshells.

  • @Zomby1Woof
    @Zomby1Woof 5 років тому +3

    I still have my old Technics SL1400 turntable. It's still like new. But it doesn't get much use, especially since it's been packed up for years. And I also have with it my Sansui 7070 stereo receiver which is also like new and not in use either. I put this nice Ortofon cartridge on the turntable too. I've owned these since they were new. I bought them in 1977 not long after I graduated from college

  • @VinylRescue
    @VinylRescue 8 років тому +21

    Enjoyed your video made for the common man who doesn't have a big budget. I bought my AT-LP120 4 years ago and have made numerous mods to make it a much better turntable. The 3 main mods that made it better: 1. remove the built-in preamp, 2. solder in a pair of shielded RCA directly to the tone arm wiring, 3. upgrade cartridge to the AT440MLa. I have more, but they are in my videos. I do prefer direct-drive over belts as they are more accurate on speed, but many belt-driven TTs out there today are great. Retailers really should drop Crosleys and their clones! What a way to ruin albums. Great video!

    • @manFromPeterborough
      @manFromPeterborough 4 роки тому +1

      I own LP120 and Crosley Cruiser too, I only play old 45's & 78's on a Crosley (also have 3 larger Travelers)never new records

  • @AIDAHAR210
    @AIDAHAR210 3 роки тому +3

    Audio Technica LP60x is underneath lp120 but very great value for $100, great for someone just getting into vinyl records. I like mine

  • @onesimplecuban
    @onesimplecuban 4 роки тому +17

    A used turntable once told me.. "If you change your mind, i'm the first in line. Honey i'm still free, TAKE A CHANCE ON ME"

  • @lovelorn88nick
    @lovelorn88nick 4 роки тому +12

    I own a Pioneer PLX-500 with a Ortofon 2mRed and love it. I started with the Audio Techinca LP60

    • @suggs1376
      @suggs1376 3 роки тому +1

      is the LP60x a good one to get as a first time record player owner?

  • @chrispage2350
    @chrispage2350 4 роки тому +2

    I still use the first ( and only) turntable I’ve ever bought. Technics SL1500, bought in the late 70’s. Never had a reason to change it. Played with different cartridges though.

  • @fredchandler836
    @fredchandler836 5 років тому +6

    I have an Audio Technica LP3. It's fully automatic and I love it.

  • @ruskreeder2434
    @ruskreeder2434 7 років тому +10

    Excellent. I remember that era. Your presentation and information was spot on.

  • @davidgena2667
    @davidgena2667 5 років тому +17

    I'd add the Fluance RT 81 to your list. A beautiful turntable which sounds terrific at a cost of $250.

  • @olaniyi570
    @olaniyi570 5 років тому +8

    First direct drive turntable came out in 1970 and was called the SP-10. Made by Technics.

    • @michaelwight9851
      @michaelwight9851 4 роки тому

      thats because technics had the patent for the direct drive motor.

  • @mikeharrison4846
    @mikeharrison4846 2 роки тому

    I have 18 yr old project turntable belt drive and still sounds fantastic bought 2 new stylus for samiko cartridge.and I'm still amazed belt checked and still good after all the yrs of use..

  • @vncstudio
    @vncstudio 4 роки тому

    I had two automatic Garrard turntables when I was young. Never had a problem. Played them constantly for years.

  • @vinylcity1599
    @vinylcity1599 6 років тому +16

    Actually a conical stylus tracking at 3.5 grams, has the same wear on records as an elliptical stylus tracking at 1.7 grams! Most wear comes from styluses used past it's lifespan! KEEP IT CHANGED REGULARLY! Did you know that the acceptable tracking force back then was 4 grams? So those nice original used records most people are enjoying was played at that weight for many, many plays!

    • @fabiotardivelli6104
      @fabiotardivelli6104 6 років тому +1

      lo stilo della mia Grado è ellittico e legge tranquillamente fino
      a 1,6. Inoltre sia dischi da 110gr., sia stampe da 180gr, in anni di
      ascolto giornaliero suonano ottimamente. E' chiaro ch adotto
      tutte le manutenzioni del caso Fabioo '961

    • @cjmillsnun
      @cjmillsnun 2 роки тому +1

      Sorry that's BS. An Elliptical stylus tracking at 2g (AT-VM95E) will have less wear than a Conical stylus tracking at 2g (AT-VM95C). Although the stylus point is thinner, there is a greater area in contact with the groove, meaning that the weight distribution is over a greater area giving less pressure on the groove and less wear. A Shibata or Microline stylus will have still less wear as the contact area is greater still.
      Where I do agree with you is that a worn stylus is the most damaging for records.

    • @georgeprice4212
      @georgeprice4212 Рік тому

      Excuse me, BUT if you look at most of the inner sleeves of albums in the 50’s, they will say that the tracking IS GOOD between 4 to 6g, especially the RCA Victor albums.

  • @taineasy
    @taineasy 6 років тому +2

    Best bang for buck: Direct Drive - Vintage Pioneer PL-518/PL-530. Beltdrive- Dual 1249

  • @Metallizombie
    @Metallizombie 4 роки тому

    I bought an audio technica lp60 to get started. After six months I bought an fluance rt82 and I’m loving the upgrade in the sound and quality.

  • @AdurianJ
    @AdurianJ 6 років тому +15

    It's nice that Vinyl is making a comback because a Turntable just looks great on top of the Hi-Fi system in the living room !

    • @bkkersey93
      @bkkersey93 5 років тому +4

      People have been saying "vinyl is making a comeback" for the last 12 years. It isn't making a comeback, it has made a comeback.

  • @HippieRednex
    @HippieRednex 4 роки тому

    I have a MCS 6700 turntable and a Pioneer PL-115D turntable. I have never left the vinyls. When CD’s came out and people started selling their vinyl I bought everything I could find. I probably have a couple of thousand LP’s. Vinyl is and always will be my favorite music media.

  • @venturarodriguezvallejo1567
    @venturarodriguezvallejo1567 5 років тому

    It is such an enjoyable experience to listen to vinyl records that I stopped to enjoy so much and buyed a CD player as soon as it was available in the market.
    I persist today in not enjoying again vinyls anymore.

  • @RudolfWolph
    @RudolfWolph 2 роки тому

    Generally speaking if you're playing records that are properly mastered for vinyl you won't *need* the benefits of some crazy high end cartridge to get sound that's good enough, and the ease of setup with p-mount will absolutely be worth it for most people. I don't think anyone even makes a moving coil cartridge for p-mount anymore, but you can get decent moving magnet cartridges new from Audio Technica, Ortofon, or Shure-- all of which will sound perfectly fine. (and since the styluses for moving magnet cartridges are generally user replaceable, even if you've got an out of production cartridge you may be able to stick a brand new or NOS stylus on it for next to nothing.)

  • @rynosity68
    @rynosity68 5 років тому +3

    Good basic info and instruction on variety of TT's with different cart mounts. Good video.

  • @jefferyjones8399
    @jefferyjones8399 6 років тому +6

    I just ordered a U-Turn Orbit. I am pretty excited for it to arrive.

  • @itxofficial8281
    @itxofficial8281 4 роки тому

    I think another big reason for people prefering manual over automatic, is that the latter pretty much takes the whole manual put-the-needle-on-the-record-experience out of the equation. No wonder DJ turntables are gaining so much popularity in the hifi-division; For audiophiles on a budget, a Super-OEM DJ Turntable is probably the cheapest way of buying a stylish direct drive, high torque turntable with interchangeable cartridges. I myself bought the SynQ X-Trm 1 a few months ago, it costs ~300€ and the quality - both sound-wise and build-wise - is amazing for the price. It wasn't the first time I had this device though - younger me used to DJ with two of these back in the days. I always loved the design, and knowing how sturdy and durable they are, I decided to go back to this classic for my living room hifi.

  • @williamdenton5716
    @williamdenton5716 5 місяців тому

    I remember that automatic tts were considered the preferred tt, and we paid extra for them.
    This was before the 1970s concerns of complications and excessive noise.
    My experience shows me no reason to believe either of those arguments are valid.
    I have at least a dozen tts, but my go to is a 1977 Sony PS-T3.
    Simultaneously connected to my amp is a cheap, plastic Craig tt which again is fully automatic, but also has a stacker arm, allowing me to stack 7" singles on that table. I feel that most tts can sound good with the addition of a quality cartridge and stylus.
    I'm also a fan of the technics sl-1500.

  • @dpdelosangelesm.d.7688
    @dpdelosangelesm.d.7688 7 років тому +27

    People like you makes it worthwhile to watch or do research on you tube. Just subscribed!

  • @VikasGupta-bx5qv
    @VikasGupta-bx5qv Рік тому

    Technics SL D20 is a good example of a decent P-mount TT. Well constructed and sounds great.

  • @georgedoughly6344
    @georgedoughly6344 6 років тому +6

    My Dream Turntable is a Technics SL-1200! Hopefully I will own one someday soon.

    • @georgedoughly6344
      @georgedoughly6344 5 років тому

      Richard Taylor That is Awesome!!

    • @keithb6717
      @keithb6717 4 роки тому

      Why? Lame plastic tonearm parts.

    • @NiiOnLood
      @NiiOnLood 4 роки тому +1

      @@keithb6717 which parts exactly are made of plastic? Maybe base, yes. Tube, gimbal, bearings are all metal. Not counting armlift support as this will not play any role in tonearm performance.

    • @keithb6717
      @keithb6717 4 роки тому

      Look again. Main arm vertical " bearing" is plastic over metal. Not even a real bearing. More of a bushing.
      Lame.

    • @NiiOnLood
      @NiiOnLood 4 роки тому +1

      It's a metal.

  • @paianis
    @paianis 5 років тому +7

    Crosley phonographs won't destroy records, their tonearms are set around 5-6g and this is within the original spec for LP playback. They just won't sound very good.

    • @ModernClassic
      @ModernClassic  5 років тому

      There was no "original spec" for LP playback. 78rpm records made out of celluloid were tougher and were typically played back on devices that generated up to 8 grams of force. That doesn't mean that was the "spec", though; lighter force would have been better for them too (have you ever heard a 78rpm record today that's actually still in good condition?), but wasn't possible in those days. As both tonearm and recording/pressing technology improved, combined with cost cutting that substituted vinyl for celluloid, the recommended force for playing records was reduced to around 1.5g. If your cartridge and turntable could do less and still track and sound good, so much the better for your records.
      All this stuff was common knowledge (and was actually literally in the f'ing manual) back in the 60's, 70's and 80's. Nowadays, as with anything else, people tend to look at the history of turntables and records as if it's all one thing. But you can't look at the literal beginning of the LP era as if it was the same as the end. That's like saying a 32KB mp3 file is the same thing as a lossless FLAC.

    • @sloebone7399
      @sloebone7399 5 років тому +1

      A decent stylus like the Ortofon 2m Red is more like 1.85 gm tracking force.

    • @CryptidProductions
      @CryptidProductions 5 років тому +1

      While you're right they won't instantly shred records like people claim they still aren't exactly gentle on them and will cause undo wear over time with extended use. A safe tracking force is either something like 3.5G on something like a conical stylus that's designed for heavier weights or under 2.5G on most anything else.

  • @d.justin8267
    @d.justin8267 5 років тому +3

    Key words. More dynamic, Better separation of the instruments and noise free.

  • @PartySpock
    @PartySpock 4 роки тому +2

    I am considering to buy a turntable.This video can help me to make my choice.Thank you nice video

  • @doncarr3890
    @doncarr3890 4 роки тому

    Long ago in high school I had a really old record changer (a Garrard AT-6), which is not a type you hear about much anymore. The automatic return function did function ok, and was very reliable, but the mechanism that told the turntable that it was at the inside grooves was some mechanical linkage from the tonearm to a little switch that was depressed when the tone arm had rotated to that position.
    That linkage applied torque to the tone arm toward the end of the record and that torque caused trouble with tracking on some records. It may not have been a problem with the high-tracking-force cartridges that were available when the tt was new, but for my more modern Shure cartridge, it was more then enough to be audible.
    A typical high schooler, I couldn't afford to buy a new turntable so I took out the part that engaged the linkage and the problem was solved.

  • @computer1up
    @computer1up 4 роки тому

    I've actually got a House of Marley Stir It Up turntable. The name sounds like it's cheapo hipster-consumer garbage, but it seems actually pretty decent. Belt driven, with a knob for selecting 33 or 45 RPM, a proper counterweight setup, auto-stop and an Audio Technica cartridge. It looks like the AT3600(L?). The turntable looks pretty good, wtih a bamboo plinth and a base covered in anthracite recycled fabric. It's supposedly made up for a large part from recycled materials. Pricing seems pretty fair at €170 around where I live. It's my first turntable, and I'm really loving it so far.

  • @vinyl1Earthlink
    @vinyl1Earthlink 5 років тому +1

    This fellow knows his stuff - beginners should listen to his excellent advice.
    However, there is much more to learn, this is only the beginning.

  • @fabiotardivelli6104
    @fabiotardivelli6104 6 років тому +2

    I like the sound of my Rega Reserch Planar 3 (2016) with Elys 2 and tt-psu.
    I have also a Technics SL BD 22D with Grado prestige 1 p-mount.
    In future I should sell the Technics and buy a Exact 2.

  • @pftyea
    @pftyea 7 років тому +2

    I got the Debut Carbon Esprit from Pro-Ject. Lovely table, but my favorite is my older Pioneer PL-512X... It sounds just perfect and it performs so perfectly overall... Awesome. Better than the Pro-Ject. Both are fab! :D

  • @bartaerts7830
    @bartaerts7830 5 років тому +6

    Thank you for the extensive explanation of turntables :-)

    • @honkyjesuseternal
      @honkyjesuseternal 3 роки тому

      What was that? "it turns round and round and put the needle on it"

  • @ThePepsimax84
    @ThePepsimax84 5 років тому +5

    Thank you. I just bought 2 vinyls in Berlin and now i just need to get a turntable :)

    • @evanrune1
      @evanrune1 4 роки тому +3

      Jerry King plural of vinyl is vinyl

    • @evanrune1
      @evanrune1 4 роки тому +1

      @@jerryking7502 vinyl is also a material not only music/

    • @Lycosa
      @Lycosa 4 роки тому +1

      @@jerryking7502 They can be called vinyls. Short for vinyl record. CDs are technically records/LPs too, aren't they. so vinyl/vinyl record is a more apt name in my opinion.

    • @evanrune1
      @evanrune1 4 роки тому +1

      Jerry King no u don’t

    • @ianyates7742
      @ianyates7742 4 роки тому

      By a good used turntable bo not buy audio TecNICA direct drive USB out you will see some nice reviews about them but take it from me and look into it they have a lot of problems go for an old vintage turntable techniques pioneer Sony et cetera. you know the good brands the ones he recommends are good

  • @illia2492
    @illia2492 Рік тому

    Thank You. I picked JVS L-A55 & amplifier Denon pma-520.

  • @53pittmanjt
    @53pittmanjt 5 років тому +3

    Great video, thanks! My current table is a vintage entry-level Technics p-mount semi auto from a secondhand store which suits me fine. Brand new p-mount carts with STELLAR specs can be had for less than just the stylus replacement cost on similarly capable 1/2 inch mount carts. Replacing a p-mount cart + stylus is effortless. Obsolete? Yep. Do I care? Nope. Having burned thru a number of semi-audiophile tables over the years (Dual, AR, AT, Technics, etc.) my humble take is that the p-mount concept is a brilliant alternative that I wish I'd discovered back in the day. Glad I've caught on now. Thanks again for the video.

    • @jimb2416
      @jimb2416 3 роки тому

      I feel the same way. I am currently using my old Technics SLDL1 linear tracking turntable that I bought brand new in the 80s. I bought newer Ortofon OMP10 cartridges that it came with. What have you found in the p mount system that maybe I can upgrade to one day?

    • @53pittmanjt
      @53pittmanjt 3 роки тому

      @@jimb2416 Look on UA-cam for Technics and p-mount and you'll find lots of info - lots more than I can pack into a few lines in this post.

  • @spaxspore
    @spaxspore 4 роки тому

    Got a Technics Sl-220 from my father, just needed a belt and a new head shell/ cartridge (the original was plastic and becoming fragile). For me i like keeping all my equipment period its part of the fun, so its mated to an early 1990s Pioneer Receiver and a late 1980s Pioneer Gr-555 Equalizer and a 91 Sony 77 ES Tape Dec, and a Sony 91 Cd-291. Vinyl is a blast to listen to and on my setup its my preferred music format for the same reasons Modern Classics explains, that and it sounds richer to my ears.

  • @brandonb1681
    @brandonb1681 5 років тому +7

    This vid make me want to go to the basement, get my records, buy a turntable, and put on "Out of the Blue."

    • @stevec5465
      @stevec5465 5 років тому +3

      Out of the Blue was my very first album purchase. From Sam Goody.

    • @thomas5
      @thomas5 3 роки тому +1

      yes elo very good

  • @Chris-pf8by
    @Chris-pf8by 5 років тому +3

    Extremely well done video, clear and to the point.

  • @wwz1011
    @wwz1011 2 роки тому

    Love my late 1970s Pioneer PL-560. I picked it up at Salvation Army for $15. Added a new cartridge and replaced the feet. Otherwise, its as found. I like full automatic as well. Of course, no way to test the turntable when it was at Salvation Army. As mentioned in the video, if you buy used, get one complete with a dust cover in good usable shape. Price out replacement dust covers on these older turntables. Wow!

  • @slapandtick1e
    @slapandtick1e 6 років тому +3

    i really like the ULM arm on these line of TTs

  • @Feartheminugs
    @Feartheminugs 3 роки тому

    I have a Garrard g25 or something of the same, lucky for me my receiver, being a Yamaha rx830, has the phono channel so I didn't have to get a pre-amp. the turntable is great, it has autoplay, repeat queue and the weight. its pretty good although I might change the cartridge as it is old and impossible to find a replacement needle. A fantastic guide and really easy to understand. Good day.

  • @sloebone7399
    @sloebone7399 5 років тому +1

    The manual turntables are more elegant but the autos are less stress. I have that DP 300F with a 2m Red and a Pro-ject Preamp. Sounds pretty sweet. I wish companies like Pro-ject would offer a semi auto that would lift the stylus off the record at the end. I’d still have a Debut Carbon.
    The biggest issue I’ve had buying turntables on eBay is that sellers have no clue how to pack them. A broken stylus could cost hundreds to replace, a broken tonearm could be a total loss. Even a missing skate weight could be $30. Don’t buy it unless you’re sure the seller knows what he’s doing. I had a guy send a turntable in a box half full of foam peanuts and nothing else. It showed up with the tonearm broken and ripped out of the plinth. What a disaster.

  • @icpizzaboy
    @icpizzaboy 5 років тому +1

    i have an Sl-1210 mk3d and an Sl-1100a with lid and original strobe both work great and i also spin on a sl-q2 and sl-ql15 and also sl-d93 i love them all but my heart goes with my 1210 and 1100a

  • @robetclo2516
    @robetclo2516 5 років тому +1

    I own a Technics SL1200MK2 direct drive and is stil used by DJ's and were made to last. But today the are very expensive. This serie was produced until 2010. Thechnics decided to resumed the production in 2016 with a revised version but now cost $2500 I got mine for $450. If you can find a used one and have no objection for the price then go for this one otherwise, there is other option. Look for it on Wikipedia it is well documented and For Your Information, that turntable is in display at the London Science Museum.

  • @peterstachura8595
    @peterstachura8595 7 років тому +9

    Great video!! Thanks for showing the Denon DP-300F some love. I own 1 (the black version) and i absolutely LOVE it!! I plan on upgrading my cartridge to an Ortofon 2M blue or bronze. Plus, you can turn the pre-amp off as well i've found out.

    • @p9kov513
      @p9kov513 4 роки тому

      buy a shure v15 used, beats all the ortofones

  • @jonathanwong880
    @jonathanwong880 3 роки тому

    Superb explanations. I still own a Pioneer PL12D modernized with modern motor and cart. Love it!

  • @mikemadden2729
    @mikemadden2729 5 років тому +1

    Replacing records with CDs works the best. I would like a good turntable for my records,
    one with a REMOVABLE SPINDLE so I can center records with OFF CENTER HOLES.
    My favorite format is the minidisc. Nobody wants to borrow or steal them, LOL! Small
    enough to be convenient, big enough to write info on & more durable than anything!
    I have 3 portable players, 2 component recorders (1 with a CD player built in) & a stack
    of blanks for recording. Set up for life! I also use equalizers, audiophiles be damned!!!

  • @jimb2416
    @jimb2416 3 роки тому

    You forgot about linear tracking turntables! I'm using my Technics SLDL1 turntable that I bought new back in the 80s. I love its automatic features.

  • @killiter1997
    @killiter1997 4 роки тому

    Something to keep in mind when looking at turntables: the signal to noise ration is capped at 40dBa for most vinyl. This means that so long as your turntable hits 40, don't worry about it. Also, aim for a tracking force of 4-6g. Any lower, like recommended in this vid, and you risk scratching. Hit 4-6g like columbia specced the format for, and you're golden.

    • @killiter1997
      @killiter1997 4 роки тому

      Another note about tracking force - cart spec > everything else. If your cartridge says it's designed for a specific force, hit that force. Don't try to make it too light or too heavy. While columbia designed the format for 4-6g, and I personally look for carts that hit it, if YOUR cart says 3g for example, hit 3.

    • @NiiOnLood
      @NiiOnLood 4 роки тому

      It's generally recommended to dial in a heavier side of tracking force range. But anything inside recommended range should do well.

  • @actfray
    @actfray 5 років тому

    Really enjoyed this video. Very helpful. I used to own a 1987 Hitachi automatic TT (can't remember the model). Got rid of it in 2005 as the tome arm started getting hung as it approached the center of the record. I want to replace it at some point.

  • @ManosPairis
    @ManosPairis 6 років тому +33

    You forget to mention the english brand REGA. Really good brand from u.k.

    • @MASTERVETEAM4
      @MASTERVETEAM4 6 років тому +4

      Actually the planar 1 is the one I recommend on a budget. Vintage Duals, Thorens and Rega are also very good. Consumer brand manufacturers have made too many models to make a general recommendation. Sony, JVC, Pioneer, Technics etc. all have made some pretty dreadful turntables over the years... They also have made good models, but it would be too long to pinpoint every of them. Even my shortlist wouldn't fit in a UA-cam comment.

    • @georgedoughly6344
      @georgedoughly6344 6 років тому +1

      Rega Planar one is my Dream Turntable 😍🤗

    • @fabiotardivelli6104
      @fabiotardivelli6104 6 років тому +7

      I have a Rega Planar 3 (2016) with Elys 2 and tt-psu. I bought it in
      January 2018.; seven month ago. My record collection is very Happy.
      I have a pick up Grado also but in the future i sould want a Exact 2.
      I'm italian but i love Rega products easy and performed.
      From Italy near Milan.........sorry for my english language Fabioo '961

    • @alanbratt3022
      @alanbratt3022 5 років тому +1

      I own a Rega P1. Brilliant turntable. Use it mainly hooked up to my PC for digitizing my vinyl collection.

    • @fabiotardivelli6104
      @fabiotardivelli6104 5 років тому

      @Cillit Bang Thank You, Cillit Bang.
      Fabio

  • @Albee213
    @Albee213 5 років тому +1

    1. You walk to into a store and you choose one, pay for it and take it home. 2. Then there is choose one online, pay for it, wait for it to show up and hope it doesn't get stolen from your porch. 3. Search craigslist or other internet sites and then haggle and pay too much for someone's old broken player they think is worth thousands... That about covers it.

  • @Kwippy
    @Kwippy Рік тому

    There are good reasons why all, and I really mean ALL hi-end turntables are belt driven with a heavy platter. Manufacturers use direct drive motors not because they are better, but because they are cheaper.

  • @wuzihuzi
    @wuzihuzi 5 років тому +1

    Best most comprehensive review

  • @jcrarnold
    @jcrarnold 6 років тому +3

    Most enjoyable and instructive.

  • @slapandtick1e
    @slapandtick1e 6 років тому +1

    your videos are great man! have two of the same turntable and they rock. the arm is somewhat similar to very expensive tonearms

  • @chrishalle1982
    @chrishalle1982 5 років тому +2

    I like the AT LP120

  • @mauricecohen3830
    @mauricecohen3830 6 років тому +4

    Good video.Although prices are going up, it is still possible to buy a Technics SL1200 for less than $500. One of the best turntables ever made.

    • @jeremywhittler8591
      @jeremywhittler8591 6 років тому +4

      Why does everyone think that...there is so much better gear out there even from Technics. It's the best DJ table maybe... that's about it.

    • @kroilito
      @kroilito 6 років тому

      It is not automatic though. I'm going after a technics automatic turntable, let's see what I find ...

  • @bobkeller8383
    @bobkeller8383 5 років тому

    I just bought my first turntable and im 49 years old. What i ended up getting was a akai ap -207. Hope it was a good choice

  • @ifilmalways7122
    @ifilmalways7122 4 роки тому +3

    Glad I never gave up my Vinyl from the 80's or my players.. Not sure why it ever died out.

    • @tonys4396
      @tonys4396 4 роки тому

      DUH, ever hear of the CD?

    • @ifilmalways7122
      @ifilmalways7122 4 роки тому

      @@tonys4396 What does CD's have to do with it? Even though they took the place of Vinyl my original statement stands.. Vinyl should have never died and I'm glad it's coming back.

    • @tonys4396
      @tonys4396 4 роки тому

      @@ifilmalways7122 You stated that you are "NOT SURE WHY IT EVER DIED OUT". That's what CD's have to do with it. Every nit wit in the world knows that vinyl almost disappeared when CD's came out. Fortunately for ME, It's making it's way back. I only listen to vinyl and reel-to-reel tape. My point is, everyone on the planet knows why vinyl almost disappeared when CD's first came out. Except YOU. I don't see anyone asking why?

    • @NiiOnLood
      @NiiOnLood 4 роки тому

      Vinyl is addictive, it's a disease sort of. I have some records left from father but no player. Recently I bought a retro Technics direct drive. Very good table as it's simple to do a maintenance and they are still holding their value. Japanese engineers actually knew what they were doing.

    • @tonys4396
      @tonys4396 4 роки тому

      @@NiiOnLood Direct Drive turntables are pathetic. Good luck destroying your vinyl collection since you can't put a decent low output moving coil cartridge on those toys. It WILL come in handy if you get into DJing where you cater to morons while destroying your records.

  • @godspeed9955
    @godspeed9955 4 роки тому +2

    Incredibly helpful video, thank you.

  • @jomadsincebu
    @jomadsincebu 4 роки тому

    The Doll in the glass case... Looks like something out of the gift shop on one of the Military Installations in Japan.

  • @belgianguitarist7503
    @belgianguitarist7503 5 років тому +4

    With this great video you earned a new subscriber! Can't wait to see the rest! I love audio and vinyl and I just watched this out of interest, even though there was nothing new really, watched untill the last second! Keep it up! 🤘

  • @riophae
    @riophae 6 років тому +3

    Have really enjoyed this informative video. Thank you very much!

  • @terrybeaud9348
    @terrybeaud9348 3 роки тому

    Thank you for the great useful tips !!
    I am wondering why no one, at least I haven't seen video yet, when suggesting buying used, no one mentions going to a record store that sells refurbished turntables. I'm in Calgary, and there is a great record store, Turn it Up, that sells refurbished turntables. They have a tech on staff that does all the work on the tables. This option will likely take the risk out of buying a used unit that needs work or has hidden problems.
    Peace !! :))

  • @izziOnBass
    @izziOnBass 7 років тому +4

    Thank you very much for the informative video. What do you think about Pioneer PL 1250 ? TIA

  • @MrXavierRose
    @MrXavierRose 6 років тому

    I can't stress this enough for people who want a cheaper player that is perfect for beginners and even those who just want something inexpensive and that's the Sherwood PM9805.

  • @FrightfulAccountant
    @FrightfulAccountant 6 років тому +8

    Sony did not make garbage in those day. It was all assembled in Japan and passed huge quality control. Turntables, receivers, amplifiers, tuners... Anything you get from a japanees brand, made inbetween 1970 and 1995 will be of superior quality next anything new. Dont waste your money on a crosley cruiser while you can get real, hq vintage for the money.

    • @jeremywhittler8591
      @jeremywhittler8591 6 років тому +1

      Try 75-82' , more specifically 78'-80. Sony really turned out some ho-hum stuff too. The British tables get the nod from that time period. Japanese had the electronics that make an E-motive or parasound sound tinny in comparison. It's like wine it's about the vintage or year , more specifically Japanese economic's and what was happening on the financial trading floors in Japan.

    • @FrightfulAccountant
      @FrightfulAccountant 6 років тому

      I am not gonna say Sony was as good as Pioneer or even Technics for the matter, but I do have read about some impressive things of late 70s Sony HiFi gear, things like the STR-V7 receiver. As for build quality? Even the entry levers were made in Japan, by engineers and technicians, not by a child somewhere in Vietnam stamping Sony logos on it, as is now the case with all the Sony stuff you will find in your local consumer electrics store.

  • @cjmillsnun
    @cjmillsnun 2 роки тому

    No mention of Rega's budget offering?. I bought an RP1 back in 2015, which is the equivalent of the Planar 1 now. It's a nice turntable, similar in spec to the Pro-ject Debut but with the belt on the inside. For my home office turntable, I bought used a Trio (Kenwood) KD-1033 which is equivalent to the Pioneer PL-12. It's a basic turntable from the mid 70s but well made.

  • @allanredford6070
    @allanredford6070 4 роки тому

    good vid. buyers of used TT should also check/ask about condition of tone arm pivotbearing. excessive play, side to side, up and down, could mean its shot. will vibrate, ruin sound also. test by wiggling with fingers holding arm pipe near bearing.
    imo vintage best. denon's 300 amazon reviews indicate speed control issues, bad. = built down to a cost, rather than up to a spec and QC'd properly at factory. good luck.

  • @dambuster6387
    @dambuster6387 6 років тому +2

    High end turntables only use belt drive better noise isolation from the motor helps to improve signal to noise ratio

    • @keithb6717
      @keithb6717 4 роки тому

      Those are cheap toys compared to high end tables.

    • @NiiOnLood
      @NiiOnLood 4 роки тому

      SP-10 mk3 is a heavy as a tank and its motor is directly based on SP-02 cutting lathe motor, which has a hell amount of torque. These are serious devices, not toys!

    • @NiiOnLood
      @NiiOnLood 4 роки тому

      BTW. New Technics SP-10R prices start around 10,000 dollars and older used SP-10-s can cost also several thousands. Cheap toys, eh?

    • @jogmas12
      @jogmas12 2 роки тому

      @@NiiOnLood I have no need for direct drive. I’m not a DJ so a high end belt drive suits me fine .

  • @cukedaddy
    @cukedaddy 6 років тому +13

    I'll stick with my $10 Technics SL-D202 with a Pickering VX-15/625E Goodwill special.

  • @owenlaprath4135
    @owenlaprath4135 2 роки тому

    It is the end of 2021, and used turntable prices have exploded into ridiculous regions! Looking at eBay, once you add shipping, dirty, damaged old turntables that were bottom of the line plastic junk are now over 300 dollars, and often don't even work. Everybody is much better off now buying a new machine without restoration trouble and a warranty. There are seriously good new models under 500 bucks, like Audio Technica AT-LP3 for $249, several Pro-Ject models, Fluance starting at $199, etc. If you find something at a garage sale, and it spins, ok, otherwise, don't bother used, unless you get it at a local dealer with exchange warranty!

  • @collabsphotography
    @collabsphotography 2 роки тому

    I have the same model PS3-LX3 (Could you make a tutorial how to change the cartridge, align it :) Would love to see

  • @kennethsese1677
    @kennethsese1677 6 років тому +5

    Your Fender offset guitars are so distracting. I can't take my eyes off of it. So gorgeous!

    • @BilisNegra
      @BilisNegra 6 років тому +1

      I was able to completely focus after a couple of minutes, but somewhere in between I went back for some seconds. I mean, I got somewhat less distracted than you maybe, but I feel you.

    • @amypeters4025
      @amypeters4025 5 років тому +1

      Agreed, I became increasingly distracted by the Mustang on the wall behind him. Want it.

    • @avoidthegroid5281
      @avoidthegroid5281 4 роки тому

      That bass

  • @Falstaff-mr8fk
    @Falstaff-mr8fk 4 роки тому

    There is actually a third type pf turntable. The Idler or idle drive in which a rubberized wheel contacts the bottom of the platter to drive/spin the platter. Not as common but some of the more sought after vintage (50's) Thorens and some Duals were idle drive turntables.

    • @keithb6717
      @keithb6717 4 роки тому

      Elacs also were German idler drive.

    • @keithb6717
      @keithb6717 4 роки тому

      E lacs are far better than dual. No comparison really.

  • @alejoniux
    @alejoniux 3 роки тому

    Greetings from Cuba. Thanks for the video, always looking for advice on turntables and audio equipment. I have the aiwa D50 with -this is funny- a soviet needle from a soviet Radiotecnica turntable. It works really fine, incredible actually.!Thanks again.

  • @Lycosa
    @Lycosa 4 роки тому +1

    Great video, thank you very much! Will buy my first ever turntable at some point, doing my research before I buy my first record player. Audio-Technica LP120 perhaps.

    • @keithb6717
      @keithb6717 4 роки тому

      Junk

    • @NiiOnLood
      @NiiOnLood 4 роки тому

      AT-LP120 is a decent turntable, but quality is pretty variable. Suggest you invest a bit more and get a nice retro Technics, if you really want a Technics-like table. They were made to last and are generally in good condition.

    • @djrubberducky
      @djrubberducky 4 роки тому

      Keith B why the hell it's junk?

    • @keithb6717
      @keithb6717 4 роки тому

      Go to a high end shop and look and learn.

    • @manFromPeterborough
      @manFromPeterborough 4 роки тому

      @@NiiOnLood I bought 120 for it's extra speed 78, since MM carts are superior to ceramic and make 78 playback higher fidelity

  • @nathanohaynie
    @nathanohaynie 6 років тому +1

    Really enjoyed your video. Thanks for sharing. Brings back memories :)

  • @ejcheck
    @ejcheck 6 років тому

    The problem with a TT Changer is the arm is set for the middle of the stack, so the Vertical Tracking Angle (VTA) will be correct for only 1 record

  • @codybroken
    @codybroken 4 роки тому +2

    GREAT VIDEO! thumbs up and I thank you.

  • @PunksebastianRock
    @PunksebastianRock 2 роки тому

    Hi! How can I adjust the speed for a PS-LX??? It’s spinning at 30.1 rpm when it should be 33…

  • @ryanmccarthy6697
    @ryanmccarthy6697 5 років тому +2

    Really enjoyed this video!

  • @izoyt
    @izoyt 5 років тому +1

    how many of you (me included)watching this after you bought some second hand plate, realising how much you will have to spend additionally for some decent sound?

  • @xBelastianx
    @xBelastianx 5 років тому

    Got a Hitachi HT353 from a goodwill. Has an Akai RS90/PC90 system on it. Can recommend this. Got mine for 25 Euro.

  • @paytergyr
    @paytergyr 7 років тому +5

    Offset guitar guy

  • @scottfricker2472
    @scottfricker2472 4 роки тому

    Kenwood 2255! It’s a tank with a warm sound!

  • @rongrant9420
    @rongrant9420 4 роки тому

    Although you SHOWED turntables with covers, you didn't emphasize the importance of using one WHILE playing a record in order to minimize airborne dust entering the grooves. You also didn't mention the importance of cartridge alignment within the headshell and plinth levelling. And finally about the difference between conical and elliptical stylii. Mine came with a conical, for which I immediately ordered an elliptical. I guess anyone watching this video knows these things already or will find other sources of information to enlighten them ;-) In the days of vinyl I had a Thorens TD124, SME 3009 Mark II, and a high output Dynavector moving coil cartridge. Now for me it's the absolute cheapest new turntable I could find ($79) and works just fine on the 99 cent used platters I can fine in thrift stores: An ION TTUSB10 with built-in step-up preamp and a MM cartridge that tracks at 2 grams. But then my hearing is that of a 78 year old ;-) I like the fact that it is manual. The few automatic shut-off tables I have encountered in the past usually damaged in inner grooves due to the forces involved in lifting the arm. The cartridge was slightly out of alignment out of the box, but easily fixed with a free protractor download. It plays through a Rotel preamp, Adcom power amp and Martin-Logan Aerius hybrids well enough for me that I don't really miss my earlier (1960s-80s) setup. I only listen to used vinyl that never became available on CD where I live (example: Mitch Miller and the Gang "sing-alongs").

  • @danielbyl4659
    @danielbyl4659 5 років тому

    Had in de jaren 70 de Garrard zero 100sb platendraaier
    En dit was een echt goede platenspeler Nu heb ik
    De Yamaha 500 vinyl

  • @1JUSTGOTLUCKY1
    @1JUSTGOTLUCKY1 6 років тому +2

    Very informative video...thank you!

  • @jurikristjouw
    @jurikristjouw 2 роки тому

    Thanx! I stored my dad's old Sony PS-242 20 years ago with the idea to later listen to LP's with my kids. Now is that time. It works flawlessly. Also bought an Onkyo amplifier with phono input for that reason years ago. I only need a new stylus and maybe a new potentiometer for the pitch control. Cleaned and lubed it, works, but tough to handle still... Is it worth to upgrade to a better cartridge/stylus or is the original stylus good enough?

  • @Zockopa
    @Zockopa 6 років тому

    The PS-LX3 and LX5 counting to the last generation of high quality consumer class turntables Sony made. Back then the turntable market was still very competitive,so putting cheap crap out was out of the question. The top modell of that line
    is the PS-X55 by the way. Anyway,it seems beyond 1981 it was all about audio cd for Sony and turntable construction and
    production "in house" was scrapped . The few models that later turned up in the Sony programm were sourced from OEMs.
    Well,LX3,LX5 and X55 all have the same good lightweight tonearm and working best with high compliance cartridges.
    Those are meanwhile no longer common. A good but rather costly model that is still available new is the Ortofon Super OM30.
    Another one for which at least new original needles are available is the Ortofon M20E. Some of the better Shure MMs like
    M95,M97 and the V15IIIs also are very good on this arm,but Shure long ago has stopped making original replacing styli for them. Good aftermarket replacement styli are the Jico HE types.
    The ADC XLM shown in video is also very good,but meanwhile rare and costly.