This inadvertently explained one of my observation, used teabags get darker over time. I noticed it while experimenting with garden composts. Thanks doc 👍
Just one more thing, I did not know. The thing's I don't know, could fill all the Volumes of this world. All that I do know, could fit on the tip of a stick Pin with plenty of room for a lifetime. Thanks Robert for being so darn generous with your knowledge. I wish I had a Teacher Like yourself Robert growing up. Maybe I would've, could've done a better job with my life. Thanks for the upload.
Rob... you have the most valuable channel on this platform - AND you have my sincere thanks for teaching me more, in 6 months, than I learned in my 6 years of "higher" education. If I develop to be even half of the man that you are, that'd be an accomplishment better than all of my previous goals combined. I appreciate your contribution ... and have been moved to donate to your cause.
It landed East of us, in Lake Charles, Louisianna. No cause for us to evacuate for this one, just a few days inconvenience and minor cleanup this time. Thanks.
Bobby, just what I needed. Beautifully thorough!🥰,jpk I needed a black paint. I used charcoal but it doesn't stain. I'm adding this ink for penetration. Thanks.
Fascinating! I used to experiment with such things. I once soaked some crushed green leaves in alcohol. Days later I would brush it on vellum. Once dry, the paper had an aged look. The ink used on U.S. paper money is interesting. It is possible to pick up the bill with a strong magnet.
Hello Master! I used ferrous sulphate heptahhydrate on coffee and tea. For 2 days it remained clear, I thought I had something wrong but then on the third day it started to darken. You have black fingers like mine. Thank you!
Robert this is a very interesting update. Can one use acorns as well? I know that it has a lot of tanins, but I cannot say that I know the concentration?
@3:22 you mention fermentation for 2 months. If you want a way to replicate that process in a few hours, you may want to look at using an ultrasonic bath. Recently (~2 years ago) there has been some experimentation using ultrasonics to replicate barrel ages alcohols. Basically you add clear spirits to a jar, throw in some wood chips, let the ultra sonic bath go for a bit, and you have a pseudo barrel ages spirit. It's not going to win you any awards but it is close enough to be considered a cheap knock off. Anyways just thought you might be interested.
@@MrTubeuser12 there are yellow, green, blue and red iron gall inks, including black, of course. it makes one wonder why we didn't start with archival inks in the first place. hmmmm.
I don't understand why the people who wrote illuminated manuscripts used a weird gallnuts recipe for ink instead of simple lampblack. Isn't lampblack more permanent anyway?
Asking about ferro fluid. Mine clumped up 1 attempt, another kind of dried up by next day😕Easy way to make ferofluid that actually works??? I tried mixing a quick batch. It worked but it didn't perform well. I may or may not revisit. Have a use for it(ferofluid)in mind.
that was interesting. Just courious, did they ever reduce it to make it thicker, just the gum arabic? Are you going to look into the ink made in Asia?, it looks almost like a black stone, they scrape on another stone with a little water.
sorry mate - I should have been clearer - I meant I make it up from the powder rather than buy the liquid - to synthesis gum arabic would be quite a job
Tincture makes a really good wood stain. Also very good for ringworm. My uncle came to me for help with his dog after 3 months of treatment with high power antibiotics that actually blinded his dog. I gave him some black walnut tincture and he applied it topically as well is in drinking water. She was cured in a couple weeks. The vet said it was some new "super ringworm" that's resistant to modern treatments. Anyway there's my 2 bits.
dont think we get oak galls here in the states, or if we do not where i live, seen a lot oak trees but no galls, suspect the gall wasp never made it here
Maybe we could leach the tannic acid out of acorn flour, which also reportedly is the process that makes the flour edible. Maybe a good project to honor the Native Americans?
you do mate - there are lots of posts from Americans going through this recipe - they don't often explain he chemistry but they do the ink - it must be your area maybe but mike's suggestion is a great one - I don't think any one has tried that - hmmm - going to look for acorns lol
@@ThinkingandTinkering I've looked for em and never seen any in Indiana or Ohio. However I suspect oak bark would work, I have tried when I was tanning some leather using the first pouring batch, but it was just brown, I used rusty nails and lemon juice though. But oak bark is a good source of tannins.
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This inadvertently explained one of my observation, used teabags get darker over time. I noticed it while experimenting with garden composts. Thanks doc 👍
well - that makes sense - cheers mate
Just one more thing, I did not know. The thing's I don't know, could fill all the Volumes of this world. All that I do know, could fit on the tip of a stick Pin with plenty of room for a lifetime. Thanks Robert for being so darn generous with your knowledge. I wish I had a Teacher Like yourself Robert growing up. Maybe I would've, could've done a better job with my life. Thanks for the upload.
I am glad you liked it mate and all the best to you
Rob... you have the most valuable channel on this platform - AND you have my sincere thanks for teaching me more, in 6 months, than I learned in my 6 years of "higher" education.
If I develop to be even half of the man that you are, that'd be an accomplishment better than all of my previous goals combined.
I appreciate your contribution ... and have been moved to donate to your cause.
oh wow - thank you mate and thank you for taking the time to say that
Made some with oak galls i found at a truck stop in Oklahoma. Worked great!!!! Found even more the next year so i can make more.
Love, respect and gratitude.
cheers mate
Humanity. Man kind, to boldly go where know one has go before. Amazing energy to you and to flow.
cheers mate
Its nice to have the power back on so I can watch the channel....
Woohoo!! Hope you weathered the storms OK!! 😊
glad you are back mate!!
It landed East of us, in Lake Charles, Louisianna. No cause for us to evacuate for this one, just a few days inconvenience and minor cleanup this time. Thanks.
Very cool what nature provides us when we bother to do the research to know the ingredients needed.
Thanks Rob.
absolutely mate
Bobby, just what I needed. Beautifully thorough!🥰,jpk I needed a black paint. I used charcoal but it doesn't stain. I'm adding this ink for penetration. Thanks.
Fascinating! I used to experiment with such things. I once soaked some crushed green leaves in alcohol. Days later I would brush it on vellum. Once dry, the paper had an aged look. The ink used on U.S. paper money is interesting. It is possible to pick up the bill with a strong magnet.
that is interesting!
Hi rob.
For short notes on the fridge, I use remains off spaghetti tomato sauce. :D
lol - nice one mate
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Right!! 😄👍Hey, that's not a spill on the counter mom!! lol,... It's graffiti and hieroglyphics... 💪😄👍🤣😂
I'm going to be keeping an eye open for oak galls. Thanks!
now is a good time to be looking for sure
Every video you see of Robert takes you closer to MacGyver status.
Post apocalyptic inventor and Mr electron helps.
lol - cheers
Excellent. You explain much better than the other videos. I read that fallen (brown) leaves have lots of tannic acid. Can they be used to make ink?
Hello Master! I used ferrous sulphate heptahhydrate on coffee and tea. For 2 days it remained clear, I thought I had something wrong but then on the third day it started to darken. You have black fingers like mine. Thank you!
Utterly cool! Add some bichromate and we're into photography! 😀
yep lol - isn't the world awesome !
I'd be interested in the 2 month fermentation state...
Robert this is a very interesting update. Can one use acorns as well? I know that it has a lot of tanins, but I cannot say that I know the concentration?
I believe so, I watched a video awhile back where they used various tree nuts, I think they cooked over fire while adding iron nails.
that's fascinating, I've wondered how some of those really old "texts" have managed to stay legible after so much time.
I know, right?
That's how it works😁exciting adventure !!!!
for sure mate
So glad i discovered this channel! Great work. Would love to see your spin on solar thermal, with your can do attitude!
Great suggestion!
@3:22 you mention fermentation for 2 months. If you want a way to replicate that process in a few hours, you may want to look at using an ultrasonic bath.
Recently (~2 years ago) there has been some experimentation using ultrasonics to replicate barrel ages alcohols. Basically you add clear spirits to a jar, throw in some wood chips, let the ultra sonic bath go for a bit, and you have a pseudo barrel ages spirit. It's not going to win you any awards but it is close enough to be considered a cheap knock off.
Anyways just thought you might be interested.
that is interesting thanks for the heads up on that
Has anyone tried using a soxhlet extractor? You might be able to cut the time to an hour or two.
Now let's make a printer that will print with the ink we could save thousands.
I'm only half joking here.
Interesting idea, pretty much any ink jet printer would work you should just need a slightly modified ink cartridge. Hmm, got me thinking now.
@@MrTubeuser12 there are yellow, green, blue and red iron gall inks, including black, of course. it makes one wonder why we didn't start with archival inks in the first place. hmmmm.
Where there is will, you shall find a way!
it might actually work in an inkjet mate - we won have to mess around with the rheology but not by much
I thing an RMS version of a rudimentary printer would be an interesting video indeed!
Can you use the acorns from a oak tree? Just wondering because they are easy to find on the ground.
In theory, yes
Mike is right mate - but you know what the best idea is - to try it and see
I don't understand why the people who wrote illuminated manuscripts used a weird gallnuts recipe for ink instead of simple lampblack. Isn't lampblack more permanent anyway?
Asking about ferro fluid. Mine clumped up 1 attempt, another kind of dried up by next day😕Easy way to make ferofluid that actually works??? I tried mixing a quick batch. It worked but it didn't perform well. I may or may not revisit. Have a use for it(ferofluid)in mind.
you add soap mate to stop it clumping and usually it is in a non drying oil
Didn't they use to get tannic acid from oak leaves for tanning leather?
that was interesting. Just courious, did they ever reduce it to make it thicker, just the gum arabic? Are you going to look into the ink made in Asia?, it looks almost like a black stone, they scrape on another stone with a little water.
I think the Chinese call the ink stones mate - I must look into it - cheers
Awesome.. Sir
I would love to have your recipe for your gum arabic? Please, I would like to make it.
sorry mate - I should have been clearer - I meant I make it up from the powder rather than buy the liquid - to synthesis gum arabic would be quite a job
@@ThinkingandTinkering Understood
I would like to share my open source recipe for wood stain. Kinda want you to see if you can improve on it.
go for it
Cool Video Rob.
cheers mate
Mmm... just wondering if red iron contining soils would work or if there would be too many impurities
do you know - I don't know - try it and see
I have walnut trees. We make ink snd tincture from the husks.
Tincture makes a really good wood stain. Also very good for ringworm. My uncle came to me for help with his dog after 3 months of treatment with high power antibiotics that actually blinded his dog. I gave him some black walnut tincture and he applied it topically as well is in drinking water. She was cured in a couple weeks. The vet said it was some new "super ringworm" that's resistant to modern treatments. Anyway there's my 2 bits.
@@sarahhoward9081 yes the black walnut is a medicinal tree! Even the leaves!
Do you ever get any of the walnuts themselves (apart from the husks)? We have a large walnut tree and the bloody squirrels get the lot 😢
@@stuffoflardohfortheloveof plenty, too much for all the sqirrels. Theres more than enough for us all. Lol
nice one mate - thanks for sharing
Great suggestion!! I can imagine setting up a booth at a craft fair, selling: Homemade Ink, Homemade Pens, Homemade Inkwells, Homemade Paper. 😊
it would be a great thing to do - there is a market for it and that is for sure
Excellent.
Thank you! Cheers!
Wouldn't the precipitated iron from the un-stopped in jar be basically, a lake pigment? so could it then be used to make a paint instead.
yep
I'm getting this crystalline crust on my ink that looks like a very thin layer of ice. Anyone know why?
super cool
cheers mate
I bet if you put it in ultrasonic bath, you'll get much faster results
oh for sure
Alchemy well done
lol - cheers mate
Absolutely brilliant Robert 👍
cheers mate
Interesting stuff 👍
Glad you think so!
now you're messing with some of the stuff i'm researching. how much have you played with drying oils? and not just linseed oil.
I used to work in the ink formulation side of printing mate
Be really careful with iron gall ink if you're using a expensive pen, it will corrode the metal.
it certainly will and it will kill a fountain pen
dont think we get oak galls here in the states, or if we do not where i live, seen a lot oak trees but no galls, suspect the gall wasp never made it here
Maybe we could leach the tannic acid out of acorn flour, which also reportedly is the process that makes the flour edible. Maybe a good project to honor the Native Americans?
you do mate - there are lots of posts from Americans going through this recipe - they don't often explain he chemistry but they do the ink - it must be your area maybe but mike's suggestion is a great one - I don't think any one has tried that - hmmm - going to look for acorns lol
@@ThinkingandTinkering I've looked for em and never seen any in Indiana or Ohio. However I suspect oak bark would work, I have tried when I was tanning some leather using the first pouring batch, but it was just brown, I used rusty nails and lemon juice though.
But oak bark is a good source of tannins.
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cheers mate
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13 year old used sea water to build a fission reactor in the family room at his house last week here in us
@@michaeltucker8645 the free energy kept from us. Time is now. We are the people.
What the deuce?
@@mikeguitar9769 water is unlimited. Holds memory, energy, free energy. Life.
cheers mate