I had a tangle in the middle of a 1kg roll that caused a print to fail 20 hours into a 36 hour print. I was so mad I almost threw my entire 3d printer into the garage.
On the end of my filament, there was a bit of tangling so I decided to loosen most of the remaining filament to get rid of tangling and result...it got even more tangled and whem I came back, my printer was printing filament in the void, wasting my printed object. Thanks for the video, it will save so many prints in the future
Oh this is just wonderful! I’m preparing to do a video on the same topic this week too! It's such an important thing that can save prints from failure. There is also a lot of misconception that tangles are introduced during the manufacturing process due to not understanding how a tangle can be introduced and then shifted down the line, causing blame to be incorrectly placed. If I could like this video three times, I would! I love how we were thinking the same thing. I'd say “great filament-focused minds think alike” but that just sounds silly, heh. Love the video!
So glad you liked it! Truth be told, it's been on the to-do list for a while, but I've kept putting it off as can be a sore subject if you've just had a print failure... I think that's part of where the misconception comes from, very easy to blame when you're angry and your print has just failed. But yes, as you say, the fact a print can start okay and then tangle some way down the line definitely adds to the confusion. From one filament fanatic to another, I look forward to your video on the topic:D
Brilliant. Thank you, just hit my first tangle - immediately thought I had a badly wound roll from the manufacturer. Now I know it was my poor house keeping.
Just had this happen on a brand new roll, first couple of prints came out ok, Then next 17 hour print failed mid way through. It was a Jayo pla and I though when I opened it that the filament felt particularly tight, is it possable to come out of the factory too tight ?
Was babysitting a print for a few hours because the filament kept binding up. I accidentally dropped this roll when I hadn't secured it yet a few months back. Finally decided to look for a video and this was super helpful. I cut about 8 feet to continue feeding while I got the tangle out, rewound and then hung it back in place. I was able to snip off the 6 feet still feeding and piggyback the end right behind. Hopefully it still looks good in the morning.
Thank u for this video.. sadly, I JUST experienced a VERY bad “tangle” .. went to check the print and it showed it was 1.2 way done….but sadly, NOT! It was tangled so bad it was sticking together? I did manage to get the tangle out and re wind (even did it correctly- did it before I found this video) i was searching to see y it happened .. thank u for the explanation..glad to see i fixed it correctly
just caught a tangle when there was about 20% of the roll left. I've been printing with the same roll from when i unpacked it, so never pulled the filament out the extruder. Don't see how this can be my fault... It's even a spool that looks nicely rolled up
Would be unusual for a tangle to propagate that far back into the spool for sure... Was it definitely a tangle and not two strands of filament joined together or wedged between the neighbouring strands?
yeah that’s why I’m here. Happened 3-4 times on my last roll from Bambu. New roll, never left the end loose. I think I’d rather have my print pause than unroll the whole roll to check it and re-roll it. Lame. seems to happen mostly with Matte filament. The matte surface seems to have enough friction to enable the auto tangle feature.
i just got a 3d printer, didnt know about filament tangles. The filament i got didn't even come in a spool. got crazy tangled, currently just relying on a small amount of wire being loosely hung on the handle. Gonna see if i can improvise some sort of spool.
I have unboxed some 3D printers where there is a coil of filament without a spool, not really sure what they are thinking as it is a bit of a recipe for disaster for a new user! If you have purchased filament seperately from the printer and it did not come on a spool, then it is likely this is a refill designed to be used with a reusable spool e.g. MasterSpool. There are lots of designs on Thingiverse that can be downloaded and printed :)
Iv been dealing with a brand new spool, it tangled on every print. Also the filament was stringy so it was either a bad batch or improperly stored by the manufacturer. I respooled it and that helped but I shouldn’t have to do that
I've been having this issue with the AMS lite for Bambu Lab A1 for hours. It was a brand new roll which I dried first, and I've done all this and still keeps happening. It's driving me nuts. I suspect it might have something to do with filament retraction or something from the AMS. I'm not sure.
I’ve been trying to print something for hours and it keeps getting messed up because of a tangled filament. I hope I got the tangle out and 3rd times the charm!
I may understand the explanation (poor storage conditions) if it just did not happen to me with a filament I just bought and unpacked today. I don’t see the responsibility of the operator in that case and more importantly how to handle it ?
How about when print stops, tug the line, yes it’s stuck, go to check the spool, no tangle! These are the situations driving me crazy. Only happens with filament like matte that has a lot of surface friction…. likely a tension knot that pops out as soon as you touch the roll.
It is unlikely unless the filament arrived looking like a birds nest, tangles can often show up later in the print as the extrusion process slowly pulls the tangle tighter and tighter like a knot until it can no longer move
Always worth checking just in case, whenever you get a new roll, if it looks suspect always try to pull a few loops off the side of the spool to make sure it comes off freely and there are no tangles.
Do people actually spend hundreds of dollars on 3D printers and store their filament just loosely?! That just seems crazy to me. I guess this is good advice for those people. Or if you get super cheap filament from a poor source?? My filaments have always been perfectly tight and well-formed for years. Good video (audio clipping was bad though), thanks :)
Pretty much anything you can think of, somewhere someone will be doing it lol. In my opinion though, probably the most common cause of tangles would be when people are loading/unloading filament. I feel it's less obvious that the filament still needs to be kept in tension throughout this process.
27 hours into a 33 hour print and this is what cause it to fail... i the had to unspool almost 3/4 of what was left on the roll to get rid of the kink. Lesson learned, only buy name brand filament. - that cheap shit is cheap for a reason!
Thanks for the comment! It's very unlikely for a product to turn up with tangles, the main cause would be if the filament had come loose from the holders during transport. Because the chances of a product turning up with tangles is low, if you're finding that you have frequent filament tangles, then it's definitely worth evaluating your setup. Look for excess slack in your setup. Add friction to the spool holder if necessary. Always store filament properly secured in the guide holes.
I had a tangle in the middle of a 1kg roll that caused a print to fail 20 hours into a 36 hour print. I was so mad I almost threw my entire 3d printer into the garage.
20 minutes from a 40 hour print.
Halfway 60 hours print😢
I would've thrown mine into the bathroom.
I like how the garage is where your hobbies go to die
Here bc my 20 h print failed 16h in
On the end of my filament, there was a bit of tangling so I decided to loosen most of the remaining filament to get rid of tangling and result...it got even more tangled and whem I came back, my printer was printing filament in the void, wasting my printed object. Thanks for the video, it will save so many prints in the future
Oh this is just wonderful! I’m preparing to do a video on the same topic this week too! It's such an important thing that can save prints from failure. There is also a lot of misconception that tangles are introduced during the manufacturing process due to not understanding how a tangle can be introduced and then shifted down the line, causing blame to be incorrectly placed. If I could like this video three times, I would! I love how we were thinking the same thing. I'd say “great filament-focused minds think alike” but that just sounds silly, heh. Love the video!
So glad you liked it! Truth be told, it's been on the to-do list for a while, but I've kept putting it off as can be a sore subject if you've just had a print failure... I think that's part of where the misconception comes from, very easy to blame when you're angry and your print has just failed. But yes, as you say, the fact a print can start okay and then tangle some way down the line definitely adds to the confusion.
From one filament fanatic to another, I look forward to your video on the topic:D
Brilliant. Thank you, just hit my first tangle - immediately thought I had a badly wound roll from the manufacturer. Now I know it was my poor house keeping.
Just had this problem, print failed 3 times, and I was luckily able to fix it every time, this just solved my problem, thank you!
Just had this happen on a brand new roll, first couple of prints came out ok, Then next 17 hour print failed mid way through. It was a Jayo pla and I though when I opened it that the filament felt particularly tight, is it possable to come out of the factory too tight ?
Was babysitting a print for a few hours because the filament kept binding up. I accidentally dropped this roll when I hadn't secured it yet a few months back.
Finally decided to look for a video and this was super helpful.
I cut about 8 feet to continue feeding while I got the tangle out, rewound and then hung it back in place.
I was able to snip off the 6 feet still feeding and piggyback the end right behind.
Hopefully it still looks good in the morning.
Thank u for this video.. sadly, I JUST experienced a VERY bad “tangle” .. went to check the print and it showed it was 1.2 way done….but sadly, NOT! It was tangled so bad it was sticking together? I did manage to get the tangle out and re wind (even did it correctly- did it before I found this video) i was searching to see y it happened .. thank u for the explanation..glad to see i fixed it correctly
It just happened to me. Thanks a lot for the tips!!! Great video!!!
The K2 Clip has saved me from tangles!
just caught a tangle when there was about 20% of the roll left. I've been printing with the same roll from when i unpacked it, so never pulled the filament out the extruder. Don't see how this can be my fault... It's even a spool that looks nicely rolled up
Would be unusual for a tangle to propagate that far back into the spool for sure... Was it definitely a tangle and not two strands of filament joined together or wedged between the neighbouring strands?
@@CallumColes no i had to pull it over the side and get the knot out like you showed in ur video.
Some of the .5 kg rolls do that. Or they're really tight near the end and break if too fast.
yeah that’s why I’m here. Happened 3-4 times on my last roll from Bambu. New roll, never left the end loose. I think I’d rather have my print pause than unroll the whole roll to check it and re-roll it. Lame. seems to happen mostly with Matte filament. The matte surface seems to have enough friction to enable the auto tangle feature.
@@CGreciful Well, I was just having tangling issues with my white matte roll. Hopefully there won't be more. At least the AMS auto-detects...
i just got a 3d printer, didnt know about filament tangles. The filament i got didn't even come in a spool. got crazy tangled, currently just relying on a small amount of wire being loosely hung on the handle. Gonna see if i can improvise some sort of spool.
I have unboxed some 3D printers where there is a coil of filament without a spool, not really sure what they are thinking as it is a bit of a recipe for disaster for a new user! If you have purchased filament seperately from the printer and it did not come on a spool, then it is likely this is a refill designed to be used with a reusable spool e.g. MasterSpool. There are lots of designs on Thingiverse that can be downloaded and printed :)
Iv been dealing with a brand new spool, it tangled on every print. Also the filament was stringy so it was either a bad batch or improperly stored by the manufacturer. I respooled it and that helped but I shouldn’t have to do that
I've been having this issue with the AMS lite for Bambu Lab A1 for hours. It was a brand new roll which I dried first, and I've done all this and still keeps happening. It's driving me nuts. I suspect it might have something to do with filament retraction or something from the AMS. I'm not sure.
I’ve been trying to print something for hours and it keeps getting messed up because of a tangled filament. I hope I got the tangle out and 3rd times the charm!
Thanks for the advice. It worked for me!
Thanks a lot. This was very helpful
SOVOL SV08 have a Tangle detection option to buy
I may understand the explanation (poor storage conditions) if it just did not happen to me with a filament I just bought and unpacked today. I don’t see the responsibility of the operator in that case and more importantly how to handle it ?
very helpful, thank you
Good video thanks.
You're welcome, cheers for the comment :)
I have two rolls BASF Filament and it is tangled out of the box.. not do to any storage.. but the way is it wound at factory!!!
How about when print stops, tug the line, yes it’s stuck, go to check the spool, no tangle! These are the situations driving me crazy. Only happens with filament like matte that has a lot of surface friction…. likely a tension knot that pops out as soon as you touch the roll.
answered my quests. t
hanks
Thanks!
You’re welcome! Cheers:)
I think mine somehow got tangle from the factory because I just got a tangle 23 hours into a print and I’ve also used the holes to store the end
It is unlikely unless the filament arrived looking like a birds nest, tangles can often show up later in the print as the extrusion process slowly pulls the tangle tighter and tighter like a knot until it can no longer move
I had multiple tangles in the filament right out of the box😢
Always worth checking just in case, whenever you get a new roll, if it looks suspect always try to pull a few loops off the side of the spool to make sure it comes off freely and there are no tangles.
Very helpful
I just watched this video because I recently was trying To print a ray gun but it fell because of a tangle
Literally just happened to me lol machine floating
Do people actually spend hundreds of dollars on 3D printers and store their filament just loosely?! That just seems crazy to me. I guess this is good advice for those people. Or if you get super cheap filament from a poor source?? My filaments have always been perfectly tight and well-formed for years. Good video (audio clipping was bad though), thanks :)
Pretty much anything you can think of, somewhere someone will be doing it lol. In my opinion though, probably the most common cause of tangles would be when people are loading/unloading filament. I feel it's less obvious that the filament still needs to be kept in tension throughout this process.
27 hours into a 33 hour print and this is what cause it to fail... i the had to unspool almost 3/4 of what was left on the roll to get rid of the kink.
Lesson learned, only buy name brand filament. - that cheap shit is cheap for a reason!
so it's all my fault, got it :D
In most cases it's something that can be prevented by the person using the filament ;)
in some cases, it comes with FILAMENT TANGLEs
Thanks for the comment! It's very unlikely for a product to turn up with tangles, the main cause would be if the filament had come loose from the holders during transport. Because the chances of a product turning up with tangles is low, if you're finding that you have frequent filament tangles, then it's definitely worth evaluating your setup. Look for excess slack in your setup. Add friction to the spool holder if necessary. Always store filament properly secured in the guide holes.
@@CallumColes thanks for your helpful comments. sometimes I get FILAMENT TANGLE. I will try card board or other spool filaments
15hours in on a 16hour print
This is also incorrect and this guy doesn't know how knots work, he is blaming operator error, not poor design.
It is operator error…
If you repeatedly have filament tangles then the sooner you accept it, the sooner you’ll be on your way to preventing them🙌🏼
Similar to a bait caster🤬
Nobody like tangles😂