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  • @MrxFuse
    @MrxFuse Рік тому +100

    the respect these two have for each other is so refreshing in the competitive scene. love to see how their rivalship will develop

  • @NassRLSS
    @NassRLSS Рік тому +70

    16:51. What a shot!

  • @Aerixes.
    @Aerixes. Рік тому +37

    vatira, the type of guy who would actually grow wings if he drank redbull

  • @okii3338
    @okii3338 Рік тому +14

    Watching Vatira play Zen is like 1v1ing your friend that you know every move they’re gonna do and just counter it.
    Well played by Vati

  • @daltonk7138
    @daltonk7138 Рік тому +34

    Everytime these two play each other I feel like it’s goku and vegeta squaring against each other haha

    • @aligoogle7532
      @aligoogle7532 Рік тому +2

      Well today it was Goku

    • @guilhermecastro3671
      @guilhermecastro3671 Рік тому +2

      @@aligoogle7532 nah zen is Goku, vatira has the sayan pride

    • @idkbro4932
      @idkbro4932 11 місяців тому

      @@guilhermecastro3671and Vatira and Vegeta rhyme

  • @OkxziRL
    @OkxziRL Рік тому +68

    Vatira went absolutely APE in game 2. That was craaazy

    • @hhaste
      @hhaste Рік тому +3

      Textbook examples of the most skilled bumps possible.. these are the clips that need to be shown to the little kids that cry about bumping

    • @imasealarparparparp2714
      @imasealarparparparp2714 Рік тому

      @@hhasteI don’t think many people cry about bumping especially not air dribble bumping. But when someone uses ground bumps or demos as a large part of their game it just feels like they don’t deserve to win the game as they don’t have better skills they are just more reckless and need to lean on bumps

    • @TheLittleShits
      @TheLittleShits Рік тому

      @@imasealarparparparp2714if it’s a +ev decision then that’s bs

  • @SimplyTiffany2009
    @SimplyTiffany2009 Рік тому +9

    salt mine completely changed how i look at top 1v1 players. Basically anyone can beat anyone if they play each other enough 😂

  • @CriticalPotato
    @CriticalPotato Рік тому +8

    Vatira must have drank like 3 energy drinks before the match with how he played lmao.

  • @GregTurismo
    @GregTurismo Рік тому +9

    It’s matchups like these where I wish we had player face cams in 1v1s

  • @JKiefer
    @JKiefer Рік тому +17

    Really interesting to see how everyone has figured out how to shut down Zen after he shocked everyone with his uninterrupted mechanical aggression. Rw9 first showed that Zen's relentless attacks aren't effective as long as you are good at enough at defending, and Mawkzy, Dralii and Vatira have figured out an even better counter: getting up close and shutting Zen down before he can do any of his mechanical plays. And that strategy isn't only good against Zen, but against reactive defenders like Rw9 as well. No wonder it was Mawkzy who won stage 1

    • @Ratbane
      @Ratbane Рік тому +6

      Zen literally destroyed RW9 last time they played

    • @keyton1928
      @keyton1928 Рік тому +2

      @@RatbaneRW9 seems to be slumping in general lately which happens. However he’s consistently beat zen before recently

    • @frst.4633
      @frst.4633 Рік тому +1

      zen can play like Rw9 but Rw9 can't play like zen. Those are feer's words after the match ended not mine.

    • @LalaChimiAnyDayOfTheWeek
      @LalaChimiAnyDayOfTheWeek Рік тому +1

      @@keyton1928sweeper mawkzy tho

    • @LalaChimiAnyDayOfTheWeek
      @LalaChimiAnyDayOfTheWeek Рік тому +1

      @@frst.4633zen can’t play like rw9 cause rw9 sweeps mawkzy. Zen get rolled by mawkzy

  • @waffyyy
    @waffyyy Рік тому +60

    Zen's 1's prime is officially over

    • @justicebrown5486
      @justicebrown5486 Рік тому +25

      Top of the world to washed in 6 months 😂

    • @riotyy1171
      @riotyy1171 Рік тому +66

      he fell off after he said becareful to mawkzy 😂

    • @Dark.Syndicate
      @Dark.Syndicate Рік тому

      quite true. that was arrogance@@riotyy1171

    • @connerkemano9370
      @connerkemano9370 Рік тому +2

      @@justicebrown5486he’s a 3s player not 1s u can say he’s washed is his team is not good next season, also 1 tourney doesn’t make u washed

    • @rf.0405
      @rf.0405 Рік тому +6

      @@connerkemano9370he can be the best 3s Player and still be washed in 1s

  • @shavencarrot
    @shavencarrot Рік тому +11

    29 minute vid... Someone cooked here

  • @CactousMan639
    @CactousMan639 Рік тому +22

    It was awesome to watch it live! Never thought Vatira would overpower Zen 😱
    13:05 1 or 2 taps there? 🤔

    • @JKiefer
      @JKiefer Рік тому +3

      If you hit the wall once before scoring, that's called a double tap, same with the ceiling. Johnny made no mistake here

  • @TonGolem
    @TonGolem Рік тому +4

    I did not expect this

  • @drparker135
    @drparker135 Рік тому +5

    Rip zens 1 career /s... Crazy how stacked eu salt mine is

  • @JazevoAudiosurf
    @JazevoAudiosurf 10 місяців тому

    10:02 I notice they never go for the kick here, nobody seems to understand that that's a possibility. You can just half flip back and forward again, it will be a power shot

  • @eric.oliveira11
    @eric.oliveira11 Рік тому +11

    Whoa whoa!! Vati is the best of 3v3 and now... come to be one of the best in 1v1 too??
    Savage 15:18

    • @connerkemano9370
      @connerkemano9370 Рік тому +2

      Zen is the best in 3v3 lmao

    • @TheFembunny
      @TheFembunny Рік тому +3

      ​@@connerkemano9370first off, alpha54 is the one doing all the work. secondly, vitality just lost to KC in the most recent tourney.

    • @taikarhan5617
      @taikarhan5617 Рік тому +2

      ⁠@@TheFembunnyI dunno, if that were the case, I don’t think the team would have been failing with Saizen. A simple roster change wouldn’t turn them from a failing team to a world champion team if alpha54 was doing it all for the team alone.
      On another note, I do like to see KC beating Vitality. Especially with Noly? I wish he was on the permanent roster.

  • @TooGoated__
    @TooGoated__ Рік тому +3

    This was a fun game to watch. Vatira lookn nastyyy

  • @GL_Neycar
    @GL_Neycar Рік тому +17

    these games were epic🥵

  • @DJprofessorK
    @DJprofessorK Рік тому +1

    I would say catching someone on top of your car on purpose is still a bump. Any car touch besides a demo is just a bump but a demo is technically a bump too

  • @aligoogle7532
    @aligoogle7532 Рік тому +2

    Vati you dropped this kink 👑

  • @nicholaiseay1650
    @nicholaiseay1650 Рік тому +2

    I have my volume turned off but does this mean that after someone loses twice that they are out of the tournament?

  • @jax8931
    @jax8931 Рік тому +2

    Johnny can u explain the rules of this tournament or tag the video explaining it? Much different than SM1+2

  • @Morleyx99
    @Morleyx99 Рік тому +1

    I always route for the underdog… not sure who I wanted to win this one lol.

  • @victoraraoz75
    @victoraraoz75 Рік тому +1

    we should have quick post interviews, like in chess :)

  • @royceomani5127
    @royceomani5127 Рік тому +11

    Weird to see people say zens 1’s prime is over however he’s still a young kid who has room to obviously grow and improve. Calling it now zen takes a little bit of time to improve and back away to see what he can learn

    • @BeastModeYTClips
      @BeastModeYTClips Рік тому +3

      I think the issue was that from the beginning while he is a very great player his reputation preceded him. Now ppl are realizing he can swiftly be beat like any other player. It's not even his fault, the RL fans and players put that God complex on his name.

    • @NassRLSS
      @NassRLSS Рік тому +2

      @@BeastModeYTClips fr, its amazing he was able to uphold it because he lost his first game of rlcs to quadrant and had 40 points and ppl say he's overrated lol, but when he wins worlds, they put him on a pedastal. In 1s, people still gave him a god complex since he only ever lost to mawkzy, rw9, when daniel peaks he loses to him. But people don't realize, joreouz almost sweep him, vati went to game 7, lots of players almost beat zen.

    • @royceomani5127
      @royceomani5127 Рік тому +1

      @@NassRLSS on top of that pros are the most fluent in game, and adapt very quickly so I’m not surprised people got used to his offence.

    • @hhaste
      @hhaste Рік тому

      Those are just kids that don't know what they're talking about

    • @frst.4633
      @frst.4633 Рік тому

      Unfortunately the rocket league community is mostly 12yr kids who dont know shit and think everything is based off of recency.

  • @Wessex85
    @Wessex85 Рік тому +1

    I wish they would change the boost and hud like this looks so much cleaner

  • @weebrahim
    @weebrahim Рік тому +1

    Amazing show

  • @younggesus7567
    @younggesus7567 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the content🤝🏻🤝🏻

  • @jksnax
    @jksnax Рік тому +3

    Nice to see the better player destroy

  • @GhoulUnraveled
    @GhoulUnraveled 10 місяців тому

    can anyone tell me what color send fennec is ?

  • @TSW_Hesitant
    @TSW_Hesitant Рік тому

    does anyone know what that preset is that zen is using game 1

  • @cubegod3656
    @cubegod3656 Рік тому +10

    Its fate of every good player to become predictable and readable once people get the hang of their playstyle.

    • @LiltleGoblinJr2010
      @LiltleGoblinJr2010 Рік тому +6

      Your talking like vatira just started playing zen recently. These guys have been playing against each other for years man. Sometimes zen wins sometimes he doesn't it's really that simple

  • @imsmallcat1034
    @imsmallcat1034 Рік тому +7

    wtf happened to Zen's bag. bro air dribble bumps so much now and wont fully commit to his aerial plays. like he doubts himself now

    • @keyton1928
      @keyton1928 Рік тому

      Players are just good bro. Aerial offense is very situational now and players have gotten very good at stopping it in general. Honestly if he improved his ground game it would make his aerial game more effective.

    • @Rumhy0
      @Rumhy0 Рік тому

      People put unrealistic expectations on Zen, it is impossible for anyone to play at their 100% best every game, it is also impossible to win every series.

    • @gabedotti3716
      @gabedotti3716 Рік тому

      @@Rumhy0he hasn’t looked the same lately 😢

  • @pentateuchv
    @pentateuchv Рік тому +5

    you should add extra minutes so we dont know who wins until last match

    • @swevyn4817
      @swevyn4817 Рік тому +3

      like rlcs does, every match is 1 hour 30 min no matter what happens

  • @PhaZeUnleashed
    @PhaZeUnleashed Рік тому

    25:24 that wasn’t a demo?

    • @hhaste
      @hhaste Рік тому

      No, he landed on him

  • @yeen69
    @yeen69 Рік тому +1

    zen not playing like he’s the best anymore lol

  • @Meaning_frame
    @Meaning_frame Рік тому +13

    i just feel like zen is so chilling

    • @justicebrown5486
      @justicebrown5486 Рік тому +10

      Lmao more like so washed it’s just readable now

    • @Isolyedxt
      @Isolyedxt Рік тому +6

      ​@@justicebrown5486wtf are you saying 💀

    • @kooliek
      @kooliek Рік тому +15

      @@justicebrown5486 because he lost a match against a great pro player?
      you know you can like one player without trashing the other. they're both amazing players and there's no need to act that way for no reason, that's just arrogant.

    • @clows7590
      @clows7590 Рік тому +2

      Yeah so chilling to lose 3-0 while trying for sure...

    • @Meaning_frame
      @Meaning_frame Рік тому +2

      @@clows7590 everything he did was so default, idk what he was trying

  • @maverickmissile801
    @maverickmissile801 Рік тому +1

    Upsets galore on day 1 huh?! Sweet

  • @DeductedDuck
    @DeductedDuck Рік тому +1

    Hell yeah

  • @kevinsanchez6738
    @kevinsanchez6738 Рік тому

    I got 15 sec double unskipAble ads for this 😢

  • @tofufish2004
    @tofufish2004 Рік тому +4

    VATI WINS EASY
    Edit: I knew it but I didn’t think it would be that easy

    • @Icyyuh
      @Icyyuh Рік тому

      zens better

    • @tsz1422
      @tsz1422 Рік тому

      @@IcyyuhVatira won

    • @jksnax
      @jksnax Рік тому +4

      @@Icyyuhzen got destroyed, he’s not better. Never had a chance at the series

    • @gg_pat3283
      @gg_pat3283 Рік тому +1

      ​​@@Icyyuhhe got sweeped, plus you cant argue for 3s when kc destroyed vitality and zen did nothin.

    • @infamouspanik1772
      @infamouspanik1772 Рік тому

      @@gg_pat3283 have we watched the same worlds where kc got destroyed in semifinals by vitality?

  • @treztreiz6370
    @treztreiz6370 Рік тому +1

    Vatira on fire 🔥

  • @wyatts4688
    @wyatts4688 Рік тому

    Zen vs the open net... Get apjack in a game and tell him you found a new player he cant beat

  • @RodizioDePizzas
    @RodizioDePizzas Рік тому +7

    Zen is finished

    • @frst.4633
      @frst.4633 Рік тому +1

      Loses in offseason and all of a sudden he's "finished" the fact that 5 ppl liked your comment is actually depressing

    • @aligoogle7532
      @aligoogle7532 Рік тому

      ​@@frst.4633and no one likes yours 😂

  • @gregboi183
    @gregboi183 Рік тому

    I just love to see this guy lose.
    Something about knowing the French fans are mad despite the fact they're guaranteed a win one way or the other

  • @tankata2
    @tankata2 Рік тому

    is this a meme in the community but why do so many fennec users have orange color with purple tint?

  • @BrunoFernandesFan
    @BrunoFernandesFan Рік тому +2

    Can’t believe vatira 3-0 zen! that’s crazy!!!

  • @aidanmclaughlan6050
    @aidanmclaughlan6050 Рік тому

    Okay!

  • @AudioHead809
    @AudioHead809 Рік тому

    Is there a way you can make videos the same length so that we don’t know who wins after the first game? Each match is about ten minutes so it’s obvious. Love the videos but it sucks when it’s spoiled haha.

    • @impqsx
      @impqsx Рік тому +1

      He used to do that but it messes with the youtube algorithm because it sees people stop watching the video half way in.

    • @AudioHead809
      @AudioHead809 Рік тому +1

      @@impqsx That makes a lot of sense man thanks for the info

  • @Fisk425
    @Fisk425 Рік тому +2

    Vatigoat best player in the World 💙💙

    • @aligoogle7532
      @aligoogle7532 Рік тому

      Hell yea , he absolutely played like a 🐐 🔥🔥🔥

  • @Pseudoku_RL
    @Pseudoku_RL Рік тому

    Oh my

  • @izayahamilton13
    @izayahamilton13 Рік тому +2

    Zens being too careful and trying too many mind games

    • @MrMarttivainaa
      @MrMarttivainaa Рік тому +10

      This, he's lost his mojo. I think we all have these days/periods where we overthink, lack confidence or otherwise are missing something. Then there are those days where you can just play well effortlessly.

    • @riotyy1171
      @riotyy1171 Рік тому +3

      becareful

    • @PhaZeUnleashed
      @PhaZeUnleashed Рік тому

      @@riotyy1171be careful spelling be careful.

    • @riotyy1171
      @riotyy1171 Рік тому +1

      @@PhaZeUnleashed I’ll becareful next time 😂

  • @ryanhendriks
    @ryanhendriks Рік тому

    Zen let him win so he don't cry again 😁

  • @XhhdshvXhdbbdbd
    @XhhdshvXhdbbdbd Рік тому

    Did salt mine not already happen what is this

    • @aligoogle7532
      @aligoogle7532 Рік тому

      Stage 2 I guess, there's 3 and finals then I guess
      Great formation

  • @MatttKelly
    @MatttKelly Рік тому

    Why does every goated pro just peak for a few months then fall off? It seems like AppJack was the last one then now its zens turn to dominate and now hes starting to seem less invincible. 2024 rlcs is gonna be insane!

  • @haakonhuglen82
    @haakonhuglen82 Рік тому +201

    Like this comment!

  • @ClarenceFM
    @ClarenceFM Рік тому +1

    Vatira my goat

  • @Rovaneon
    @Rovaneon Рік тому +1

    Of course one of the first things Johnny says is a snide comment about starting the match without one of the players in the lobby. Something he can see, but chat can't. Wish there was a good 1v1 scene without his condescending personality. Oh well, I am glad for the content he provides.

  • @so6609
    @so6609 Рік тому

    I think it isant the same zen as stage 1

  • @Titan_Moss37
    @Titan_Moss37 Рік тому +7

    Zen lost, can’t wait for Johnny to make tons of excuses for him, Zens #1 meat rider

    • @jayeff4337
      @jayeff4337 Рік тому

      Yeah true zens only been hyped up by Johnny and nobody else right?
      Lmao what a fucking idiot comment. Also of all the people to accuse of meat riding Johnny has always been one of the most willfully objective analysts.

    • @dujoboi
      @dujoboi Рік тому

      keep crying

    • @brotherhoodofsteel3090
      @brotherhoodofsteel3090 Рік тому +2

      ​@@dujoboi Why would he cry exactly? Zen got dominated this series.

    • @LouieVthProductions
      @LouieVthProductions Рік тому +1

      Speaking facts

    • @dujoboi
      @dujoboi Рік тому

      @@brotherhoodofsteel3090 hes just yapping

  • @feelsgood3316
    @feelsgood3316 Рік тому +2

    Zen officially washed

    • @frst.4633
      @frst.4633 Рік тому

      You're 12 years old max

    • @aligoogle7532
      @aligoogle7532 Рік тому

      ​@@frst.4633cry more 😂

    • @pentateuchv
      @pentateuchv Рік тому

      @@aligoogle7532 you are also 12 years old max

    • @Rumhy0
      @Rumhy0 Рік тому

      How about you try to beat Vatira when he is playing like that.

  • @TrickDaddyAlex
    @TrickDaddyAlex Рік тому +1

    Zen is washed in 1s

  • @khalid_1209
    @khalid_1209 Рік тому +2

    Wtf

  • @madwavesd2216
    @madwavesd2216 Рік тому +6

    I hope zen will stop putting so much pressure on himself and just enjoy the game. He just can't keep trying to be perfect or to satisfy everyone. When we see how he is so doubtful of his aerial game, it feels like he is second guessing each and every one of his decisions.. Vatira is a great player but zen just lost to himself today

    • @morganbaker9721
      @morganbaker9721 Рік тому +11

      That’s delusion
      Vatira was literally pre jumping the man. They’re both phenomenal players but Vatira was just on another one

    • @dustinarthurs3752
      @dustinarthurs3752 Рік тому

      Get Zen's balls off your chin brother.

    • @Allusyy
      @Allusyy Рік тому +8

      no he lost to Vatira.

    • @clows7590
      @clows7590 Рік тому +6

      You saying the man (Vatira) who is destroying the 2s lader by a big margin, 2 times Major champions, 4 times MVP did nothing but Zen lost to himself? While before the match he was 4-4 against Zen in 1v1 matches... nah bro that's delusion

    • @aligoogle7532
      @aligoogle7532 Рік тому

      ​@@clows7590what a reply, RESPECT 👏

  • @OtesOtesOtes
    @OtesOtesOtes Рік тому +1

    Zen is differnet
    Vatira is differenter.

  • @codder32
    @codder32 Рік тому +5

    Zen keeps on disappointing these days

    • @shawnthesheep3720
      @shawnthesheep3720 Рік тому

      bro hes not trying

    • @jksnax
      @jksnax Рік тому

      @@shawnthesheep3720ofc he is. He’s a toxic crybaby he’s always trying

    • @codder32
      @codder32 Рік тому +4

      @@shawnthesheep3720 sure, if that's what you wanna believe. He's in a competition not trying to win

    • @Allusyy
      @Allusyy Рік тому

      @@shawnthesheep3720 yeah as if this was ranked 1s or something lmaoo delusional ass

    • @shawnthesheep3720
      @shawnthesheep3720 Рік тому +1

      @@codder32 yea thats if he cares ab winning in the first place.

  • @wrstz7831
    @wrstz7831 Рік тому +2

    like for spoilers

  • @DC9V
    @DC9V Рік тому +2

    Suggestion: Whenever a match starts, you tend to talk a lot about the player's history, instead of commentating on the actual match, which is a bit distracting, in my opinion. I would prefer the history part to take place before the match begins.

    • @JKiefer
      @JKiefer Рік тому +3

      Fair, but just to give another opinion, I like the streams because he gives us so much context instead of just describing what we can see anyway

  • @littlebellka
    @littlebellka Рік тому +5

    zen just wasn’t his day i suppose 😑

    • @Lonzology
      @Lonzology Рік тому +3

      Zens had very slowly run this 2nd round of Saltmine. He's not playing awfully bad but it seems hes burnt out.

    • @frst.4633
      @frst.4633 Рік тому

      ​@@Lonzologyagreed

  • @TehRebolt
    @TehRebolt Рік тому

    Zen suckssss

  • @iyhabbarber2273
    @iyhabbarber2273 Рік тому +1

    هههه ابلع سويب

    • @frst.4633
      @frst.4633 Рік тому

      ليش مبعوص😂

    • @aligoogle7532
      @aligoogle7532 Рік тому +1

      ركع أمام الأسطورة 🙂

  • @Nadernad0
    @Nadernad0 Рік тому +1

    First

  • @LiamBanfield
    @LiamBanfield Рік тому

    Seventh

  • @glitch3959
    @glitch3959 Рік тому

    second

  • @uzeri7878
    @uzeri7878 11 місяців тому

    zen go play fort, cant u see ur nab?

  • @crazyblaster8195
    @crazyblaster8195 Рік тому

    Zen needs to be ashamed.

  • @tristanmoten3242
    @tristanmoten3242 Рік тому +1

    I feel like zen can easily beat these guys but he sells in the last minutes

  • @shawnthesheep3720
    @shawnthesheep3720 Рік тому +1

    zen wasnt trying

    • @jksnax
      @jksnax Рік тому +7

      Gonna cry? Vatira better, rw9 better 😢😢😢😢😢😢

    • @shawnthesheep3720
      @shawnthesheep3720 Рік тому

      @@jksnax ayo relax its rocket league aint that deep

    • @jksnax
      @jksnax Рік тому +4

      @@shawnthesheep3720 zen meatriders man

    • @aligoogle7532
      @aligoogle7532 Рік тому

      Because he got dominated by the goat

    • @zemania4535
      @zemania4535 Рік тому

      You guys have serious brain damage. Show some respect to the players.

  • @Mememememememe123
    @Mememememememe123 Рік тому +1

    Zen is nowhere near as good as he was back in his win streak.

    • @aligoogle7532
      @aligoogle7532 Рік тому +1

      Actually he's the same, but pros are adapting