Why Must Palestinians Pay for Germany’s Crimes Against European Jews? Plus, Pinkwashing
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- German support for Israel appears to be unshakable no matter what the Israelis do to Palestinians. The irony of course is that much of this support for Israel is justified as necessary to make up for the German Holocaust against European Jews. It seems Palestinians are paying for Europe’s crimes.
To discuss this phenomenon Rania Khalek is joined by Denijal Jegic, German author and post doctoral researcher at the Lebanese American University with a PhD in American studies who wrote about this topic for TRT in a piece titled, “Palestinians must suffer so Germany can feel better about its past.”
Rania and Denijal also discuss Israel’s pinkwashing - the use of LGBTQ+ rights to distract from occupation and war crimes - and how western countries have adopted these practices as a form of cultural imperialism against the Middle East.
TOPICS
2:25 German Nazis in government after World War 2
4:00 How Palestinians pay for Germany’s crimes
7:33 History of anti-semitism in Germany
8:33 Arming Israel as reparations?
11:40 Germany attacks anti-Zionist Jewish activists
14:47 Germany’s political spectrum from left to right is anti-Palestinian
25:18 The German far right’s love affair with Israel
28:27 German colonialism in Africa
33:58 Israel’s Pinkwashing
40:50 How being Yugoslavian shaped Denijal’s politics around Palestine and imperialism
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Well I'm South African, black if it helps some amongst us.
We lived through apartheid and it was bad, and brutal at various junctures.
But there were never fighter jets and helicopter gunships mowing down entire neibourhoods at a go.
And many of the bad in apartheid they understood it was bad and tried to hide, them Israelis can't seem to be bothered.
This comment needs to be seen more.
@@Ana-rb7wsyes it does.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 thank you. From a sista in Minneapolis (Minnesota, US) ✊🏾
Because they are protected and are above the law.
@fightback397 Soweto was no different, not at all, other than that it was a bit more well know. Yes there was shootings of school children in June 1976, and in Sharpeville and Langa, Cape Town in 1960. We know what happened here, fully, we lived through it.
Whatever else happened none of it was anywhere near the levels of brutality and callousness of them Israelis.
I am German and emigrated to the US in 2008. He is spot on! We can't say the J word, God forbid and all we talked about in history class was ww1 and 2. I've carried alot of guilt for what my ancestors did. I feel especially pissed off about Zionism knowing that they just turned around and treat the Palestinians the exact way that they were treated. Of course they didn't teach us that the Nazis stayed in government after the war. Very interesting. Free Palestine!!!!
Are you taught about the genocide carried out in Namibia 🇳🇦
Are there gas chambers in Israel? What about arab Israelis? Are they tortured and murdered? Are they gathered in laborcamps? Israel is not in peace with Paestinians because Palestinians, because HAMAS does not want to live aside the Jews. They want to drown them into the sea.
The Zionists were in cahoots with NAZI.
@@Aminata65and the Congo and Sudan! We can go on and on unfortunately. Free the earth from humans.
Congrats for speaking up!
Germany is making the same mistake they made against the jews . This time against the Palestinans. By turning blind eye to the Palestinans situation Truth is not only violated by falsehood. It's equally outraged by silence.
Closed eyes were certainly in parts, but in a dictatorship under martial law many are just not courageous.
However, Germany never broke away from the USA, which is indeed a big mistake.
Germany has always called for a two-state solution, and the current foreign minister has just repeated this once again.
The population has never been as far away from its current government as it is these days, and there have been and still are pro-Palestine demonstrations in Germany.
Well said.
German here. This is a very is a simplified perspective. You oversimplify historical complexities and the involvement of various actors, such as the British colonial rule, the Balfour Declaration of 1917, and subsequent developments like the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. The creation of the State of Israel was not merely a unilateral decision by a foreign power but was endorsed by the United Nations through Resolution 181 (the Partition Plan for Palestine) in 1947. The Implementation of the plan was met with violence and rejection by Arab states and Palestinian leaders which marked the beginning of the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. Israelis were always for a two state solution but the Arabs never accepted this plan. Instead, they gave rise to several terror organization whose leaders earn billions of dollars and whose "voters" dont see any of that money, including the Palestinians. How can you earn billion of dollars and your own people see nothing? You only do that because war helps you to stay rich. Please blame the Hamas for the situation in Gaza or at least Great Britain. Germany has nothing to do with this. We are simply on the right side of history.
What’s more worrying is that this video is 2 years old…and Germany is still displaying the same behaviour.
And it will never change.
Can the Leopard change its spots?
@@yuripapa2353 if spots are a behaviour, yes. Humans have the capacity to change. If not then why bother in the first place? It’s only reason why I am hopeful.
That's not true you are dreaming. Sdtop the hate cannot guilt anybody. Ah. Let's not GERMANY. Not working
@@dagmarvandoren9364 so you are not hopeful?
How could Germany who committed GENOCIDE be silent while another GENOCIDE is being committed against Palestinian people.
There is one more genocide the Germans had their hand in, Armenians. Seem to be a pattern.
How could Americans who genocided the Native Americans and occupy their land today (like the Jews occupying Palestine) support and fund Israel?
More importantly how can Jewish people commit a genocide and ethnic cleaning of anyone?
Today's Federal Republic of Germany is not responsible for genocide and those responsible during the Nazi era have been held accountable - all the others (perpetrators) have since died. There is no guilt that passes to the children and grandchildren. The Federal Republic of Germany has been advocating a two-state solution for years, unfortunately Israel was not interested in it and currently has no more powerful ally than the USA and it stands.
Israel is also not interested in German opinion.
The population has gone up
As a German, thank you so much for expressing this point of view. Our country will never wash the blood of the Holocaust from our history with the blood of Palestinians and our governmwnt and society must realize this.
Eichmann was friends with a Palestinian, his name was Amin al-Husseini. He befriended Eichmann and met with Hitler in 1941. He was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. They have blood on their hands, too. They attacked in 1948, not the Israelis.
Nanturally.. in 1948 they defended their land from Zionist Land Grabbers.. nothingbto do with blood on their hands ! Its totally Germany who have Blood on their hands .. Cant deny it.. !
@JonVonD
Sorry, but what kind of nonsense is this.
Germany's foreign policy has been largely determined by the USA since WW2 and its accession to NATO.
This also means that we are officially on the side of Israel as well as all other western states/NATO states etc..
Nevertheless, the two-state solution was also demanded by Germany and the current government does not necessarily represent the opinion of the population.
In the first place the USA supports Israel without any restrictions.
No war can be cleared, but there is also no guilt that passes to the children and children's children.
@@nuqwestr no the nakba states the Jews attacked first and evicted 750000 Palestinians. Jews committed genocide - deal with it! And germany still refuses to talk because the zionist extremist terrorist has cut off germany’s balls - face the facts
@@nuqwestrone Palestinian in ww2 is not all Palestinians. Real Muslims helped Jews during ww2 and after, and vice versa. Both the Jews and Muslims were burnt in the concentration camps because they were considered sub-human, and the word "Muslim" was the most derogatory name for anyone in the worst condition, at the brink of death there. Former Czechoslovakia is here. DO NOT play with fire ever again...
If you are American pls share n pls educate your family and friends. FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸
How could we, we ourselves had exterminated the Red Indian to extinction.
@@mohdnorudinwe, kemosahbee?
Flee palistine
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We don't want your Soviet era propaganda here.
Free Fakestime from fakeness and especially from MuhammmmMad tha pedofet of hate
Yeah I have same question to German and to rest of the Europeans and US , why Palestine have to give up their lands for Germans crimes. How dare are German Jewish have rights on Palestine. I totally agree with these two speakers for authentic narratives and true history.
Its not that simple (Palestine and Izrael history is complicated and both have rights to live there)
@@Rinma99no the euporean jews doesn’t have right to a land just because their religion matches. just because i'm muslim doesn’t mean i belong to Saudi Arabia, because I wasn't born there. i was born in an indian subcontinental country! I can't change by
ethnicity or race or migrate to a separate country or continent and claim it to be mine because of a religion or ideology or my ancestors. just because indians has ancestral roots from Afghanistan - doesn’t mean we can go and take over Afghanistan and reclaim there land and then re-establish a new country on top of it. it is called occupation.
The German public doesn't exactly see it the way our government does. We're tired of the guilt trip, the mainstream and politicians put us through. Most Germans, I know, express their sympathy for Palestinians, if you ask them. But most of them wouldn't dare to say it out loud.
Germany scolding Israel will create a chain of unfortunate reactions. It's best they leave it alone. The blame is on the United States for being Israel's biggest proponent.
The guilt should make Germans empathize not with Zionists, but *oppressed* people of whatever flavour.
@@narlywaves2371 No chance of it, anyway.
@@fun_ghoul True!
Totally agree with 'kikimoko.'. we are tired of the guilt trip put on us by the never ending victim propaganda of the Jews who at the same time inflict the same pain on the Palestinians as they experienced during the shoah. Will it never end?
Pro Palestinian = Pro humanity!
Thank you folks for supporting the Palestinian struggle.
If a great man such as Nelson Mandela is labeled as "terrorist" by US, Israel, EU, then, the world much question their moral compass; are the leaders of these countries fit to lead?
They don’t have a moral compass and aren’t fit to be in government that’s quite obvious
All over the world we need to re-learn how to vote!
For a brief period after WWII we managed to vote reasonably sensibly, we need to get back to that somehow.
Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King brought their people into a burning house! Not sure they were correct!
@@alanhat5252Palestinians don’t even have the vote. Hamas has not permitted elections since 2007 (and Fatah keep cancelling theirs). Palestine needs to be freed from these butchers.
@@alanhat5252 Voting didn't stop Hitler from taking power in German. Capitalist exploitation is the real problem.
if only us palestinians are seen as human beings like others.
I'm Ethiopian not only are the Palestinians suffering because of what the Europeans did but they are also victims of widespread islampphobia. I doubt what they would go through if they were bhuddists or christians. Even though a minority of them are christians. The west hates muslims. The same west esp the US that is the only country that can and should put an end to this suffering and brutality but it won't.
@@Abraham_Tsfaye palestinians arent a muslim issue. they just hate us cause we are palestinian and arab
@@nanaah4602 So why do they hate Iran? They are not palestinian and they are not arab. You are a liar!
Here in Ireland our hearts break.I would love Palestinians to come to Ireland and I can provide accomodation just to get rid of the misery.
I know for a fact people in Ireland will provide refuge,love and warmth.
In the next week I will be contacting people.
@@do7696thank u so much, Irish people are great people
The oppressed turned into oppressor. When will this cycle end. 🕯☮️
Kwame Toure (Stokley Charmichael) said that Jews who want their own state should have a part of Germany carved out for them. He made sense.
I'm Ethiopian not only are the Palestinians suffering because of what the Europeans did but they are also victims of widespread islampphobia. I doubt what they would go through if they were bhuddists or christians. Even though a minority of them are christians. The west hates muslims. The same west esp the US that is the only country that can and should put an end to this suffering and brutality but it won't.
Palestine has never been an independent state. Who was the last Palestinian King or president? What was the Palestinian currency? Prior to recreation of Israel, it was under the British . Before that under Turkey and Prior to that Israel was invaded by the Romans and it was re named Palestine..
Having said that, I believe the Palestinians do deserve their own state, however with presence of terrorist groups such as genocidal suicidal Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad which are proxies of the theocratic terrorist regime of Iran, peace is not a possibility. Watch "WILL YOU CONDEMN HAMAS: David Horowitz Goes Toe-to-Toe With Terrorism Apologist" on UA-cam
ua-cam.com/video/JuqTKXZjffE/v-deo.html
@@Abraham_Tsfaye
Right 💯
@Abraham_Tsfaye the West, has replaced antisemitism with the Jews with Islamaphoia. What they don't realise that is their imperialism and invasion of Muslim countries doesn't buy any friends and simply creates hate. Oppress people, and they will either give up and die or fight back. I recall the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, where some of the Jews fought back eventually dying or giving up, the similarity with Gazza is simply striking
Many Jewish joined left movements in late 1800s
early 1900s to resist W &
E Europe.
England,etc. W Euro empires were anti Jewish, so we’re glad to help Zionist faction of Euro Jews emigrate &
colonize Mid E-to get them off Europeans’ hands.
You do see young mostly Muslims speaking out for Palestinians, but as Denijal said they were smeared on the media.
German colonialism is never taught at schools. Great interview!
It doesn't even have to be that, here in Canada, a medical doctor was given a 30 days suspension after posting pro-Palestinian comments on Twitter and criticism of the comments by pro-Israelis. But the hospital said it wasn't for the comments, and they expect -critical thinking people- the sheep to believe it.
Remember that Germany colonised Namibia and ruled wuth brutality, not a well know fact. They also allowed apartheid South Africa to have "protective" status over Namibia
@@magdaseguin Not to minimize what happened in Namibia, but it's a kind of toss up as to who was the most barbaric of the colonizers.
You are great guys. Thank you❤👍
@@jaroslavfricek7772 Hamas made their bed and now don't like the results. They have historic ties to Hilerism and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who organize a fascist Muslim Croate Militia for Hitler during the war
South African Apartheid was never this bad. Israel has taken it to a level that is diabolical. South Africans managed to transition to democracy and is today a Constitutional Republic, one of the most advanced in the world. Palestinians are Semites, Arabs, Christians and some Jews who never left. 🇵🇸🇿🇦🇵🇸🇿🇦🇵🇸🇿🇦🇵🇸🇿🇦🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🕊✌PALESTINE FOREVER!🕊BRICS AWAITS YOU!
I absoutely was worst. Why everybody likes to minimize "black" people's experience? In fact, "black" people in the Western world are still in apartheid.
In the last video she points out that today in the west bank one can go to prison just for having a picture of a fallen soldier or family member trying to resist Israeli aggression! You can be beaten , tortured and stay in prison without legal help for years! Sounds like South Africa to me but worst because it not only has gone on longer but people are no longer being simply segregated but out right murdered a long with their infant babies! This psychological foes two things it puts fear in the next generation and by killing them like what was done to Native indigenous Indian people they are no longer a threat because they will no longer exist
this by the way is not to take away from black experiences of racism, or genocide by white historical supremacy
"...one of the most advanced in the world." Good one
400 years of decapitation and slavery.
Shame of you
WOW this conversation is equally fascinating and enraging! I've learnt a lot! Thank you Denijal Jegic and Rania Khalek! Germany's cynical politicians have a lot to answer for!
The hierarchy in the Bundestag has retained its Nazi colours.
Love you Ireland thank you for sending up for Palestinian .❤
To be honest as a black german this video perfectly explained one of the Problems of German society. I am honestly not only heart broken that my politicians dont do anything I also dont which party is even really safe for minorties. I fell really sad how the muslims here are treated for years. The far right party there has in the polls 21%. Of course that can change but the one of reasons the naziparty got so popular was the "great depression". Maybe I'm over dramatic but it fells like it could happen again.
It is happening again and this time we are alive to witness it! BTW why is no one talking about the genocide going on in The Congo? I’ll give you one guess!
What should your politician do? To this day, the USA also sets foreign policy for Germany, and now for the entire EU through NATO connections, and Israel is indirectly part of it, as is Canada, for example.
I am not aware that Muslims are generally treated badly in Germany, but unchecked and uncontrolled immigration has gotten completely out of hand.
There is no right-wing extremist party in Germany; all parties adhere to the rules of the constitution or the Basic Law.
The reasons for the rise of the Nazis are a bit more varied than the Great Depression.
As another mixed race German, I feel you. Most majority Germans love to look away and bath in self righteousness. Most will stand up for no one if there is the slightest risk to get exposed.
U are black german so not native you or someone from your family came to Germany you chose to live in Germany and got all the benefits from one of the most liberal and socialy advanced country...How are muslims treated? Are they respecting the country that let them in and is feeding them. Minorities wont be safe if domestic ppl are not safe from minorities.
@@linnyschlamm3310The AfD party isn’t far right?
Free Palestine 🇵🇸❤️🇵🇸
What does it mean free Palestine? Is Izrael Palestine or both can live on that territory?
"We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the world - no longer a Government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a Government by opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." - President Woodrow Wilson.
Wilson was a liar, a racist and an Imperialist tyrant. He launched the Palmer raids and the Secret Police agency Hoover's FBI.
France and Germany did not allow any protests in favour of Palestine . We saw it last Sunday .
Actually, there was one german lady ,of jewish descendence protesting and asking for ceasfire.She was arrested.
„Not in my name“✨👨🎨🎨✨Greetings from Northern Germany.
Israel was supporting the apartheid of south Africa too. The south African embassy was in Israel while boycott South Africa was going on. Israel never broke ties with Apartied South Africa
It was never only germany alone, it was also all the surrounding european countries, too, which helped germany actively ...
Very true, yet somehow it seems to me that Germany gets remembered almost as the only one... Just like the US put the Japanese in camps?! I think after they bombed Pearl Harbor. And of course on another topic their treatment of the American Indian and slaves.... Seems like every nation has "Dreck am Stecken"
But in 2023 one would think we all learned from history. But seems like my country Germany learned the wrong lesson as in "don't start it this time, but help along"
@@robinfriedrich6678 Die Deutschen haben schon was daraus gelernt, aber nicht, was wir gemeinhin denken ... Nie wieder meint: Nie wieder versagen, wenn wir einen Genozid verbrechen! Nie wieder einfach nur daneben stehen und Beifall klatschen, sondern aktiv helfen! Nie wieder darf der Rest der Welt mitreden, wenn wir Deutsche was entscheiden, nie wieder!
they love to make it seem like it was just germany when many of them were complicit and even aided in it.
i'm from Austria, and here it's even worse than in Germany.
during the latest Israeli bombing of Gaza (where like 5 times as many Palestinians were killed than israelis) our government (a coalition between the green party, and center right) raised the Israeli flag to show solidarity with Israel. traditionally the far right 'freedom party' (a party founded by former members of the nazi party) also had a great relationship with Israel. the reason is pretty obvious: Israel is kind of their rolemodel: a big security/police state, big military, corrupt, spy technology exporter. that's the kind of thing they want in Austria as well (and to an extent have already built).
and to the guest's point about antisemitisim not being specific to the nazis. in Austria before the nazis came to power, we had an Austrofascist regime (the center right party dispanded parliament and established a dictatorship). under that regime the nazis were illegal. and they cleansed jews and socialists from universities and then bragged about the universities being 'free of jews'. the catholic church (Austria is mostly catholic) had an opinon on these policies, the bishop of vienna at the time called the policies of the Austrofascists "the most important policies since the counterreformation". it's not too surprising that the church approved of, among other things, cleansing of jews, since they have spread antisemitic propaganda about the jews being the 'Christkillers' for centuries.
26:40 yep
Isn't Adolf Hitler Austrian?
@@yuripapa2353yeah
@@yuripapa2353 He was born in Austria-Hungary.
@@yuripapa2353yesss
What I learned as a German from our horrible past is that we and anybody else are obligated to be against any kind of injustice, regardless who commits it.
It's so disgusting what continues on - Scholz, VDL, Baerbock's statements / stances are deplorable.
In other words, Germany continues to discriminate and help oppress the underdog 😢
Wow, I'm amazed how Soviet era propaganda has survived and has been picked up by Woke Marxists in America and the EU. Insane.
What about openly acusing Germany for yet an other holocaust ???
Turning your backs on the ""PALESTINIANS HOLOCAUST, " IS RACIST, INHUMANE, BIAS,
IMPERIALIST. ..BEWARE "EVIL ZIONISTS at WORK.
❤Free PALESTINE ❤
Accuse Britain. They're the ones who arranged the European refugee invasion and they are the ones who supplied the soldiers who drive people out of their homes at gunpoint
President Jimmy Carter: "The government is out of control. I have no control over them, and I can't engage in dialogue with the Government."
I fled from Germany. This was the best move in my live
Wo leben Sie jetzt wenn ich fragen darf?
I immigrated to Germany over 50 years ago from Canada and never regretted this.
@@louisepelte2942I'm assume you not Zionist's ?
I am fuming with anger with all this information. Fuming!
You will be even MORE fuming when you hear how much your being lied to!
Israel 🇮🇱 is 20% Arab with equal rights.
This guy has either no clue or he's LYING.
I just looked on a MAP of Islamic countries vs Jewish countries 😳 🤔
Tell me which 1 is "colonialism"
Lovely stream . Hit the hammer on the nail.its ironical that Germany is trying to shake off it's holocaust past by encouraging another . Ridiculous n pathetic policy
The vast majority of the Europeans Jews are ethnic related to non-Jewish Europeans.
Exactly what I was thinking, irony distilled, or not a German but Greek tragedy
Yes pathetic!!!
IT never shakes it off. That's not tru....we have enough hate going around leave my country alone. Worry about your own balcony....dint create more gate. Think about bringing peace....hate creates hate. Children know that
Hate creates hate....i cannot hear it anymore. So nobody can be blamed. Aha. We have the Germans. And the holocaust it should work all the time. Guess What? It does not anymore....we paid. And paid. And suffered. And paid. And not one soul came back....and the world has different gate everyday. Nobody learned....shame so leave my beautiful loving country alone...
In Frankfurt /M all recent demonstrations for Palestine were forbidden. In a city ruled by a mayor born to Syrian parents.
10 minutes in and I'm constantly nodding to what Denijal says
I live in Germany and his analysis is absolutely accurate
It's a tempting narrative that Germany would be making up its genocidal past in this perverse way, but it misses the point. The real issue is EU imperialism (for which Germany is the central power). The statement by the foreign minister Maas was outrageous but not exceptional within the EU. During the Gaza raid, the Finnish foreign ministry similarly talked about Israel's "right to protect its citizens from terrorist attacks". The EU needs Israel to make the Middle East more disorderly and thus more exploitable.
Strange how wrong a human can be in such a small amount of time.
He squeezed so many fallacies in such a short space of time.
@@michaellamont2605He spoke nothing but the truth.
@@noneofurbusiness906 Palestinians, made up people for a start.
Israeli crimes against a made up people?
Does he mean beating the jihadists?
UNRWA has made up a problem
Israel isn't apartheid
"Palestine" is
Genocide population goes down
Thanks for the education! Didn't learn enough German history... its so heart-wretching.... I should learn more about Africa and colonialism.
so true - i grew up in germany too and confirm everything. Except for one point though, and that's about eductation. We got hammered with Hitler documentaries and concentration camp footage. I almost felt brainwashed, obviously this is important that we have learned this but I thought that the extent of it was over proportional also never learned anything about german colonialism in Germany nor the broader history on Palestinians in Israel and/or Palestine.
Need to stress that West Gernmany never went through denazification while East Germany along with most Easter Block countries did thanks to the USSR. In general, when there is talk of Germany's actions in the post WWII period, it is West Germany. For instance, East Germany offered logistics to anti-apartheid groups in Southern Africa. It is important to make that distinction.
Wow interesting! Can you recommend any books or articles on this topic?
the politics continues to be very different, it seems
Eastern Germany is the most right wing part of Germany, you df
There are many reasons why a reactionary tendency is emerging from the East side. However, it is easy to argue that the more "liberal" west germans are not that much different from their easterners. Moreover, the more extreme right wingers are in the South West, and to a lesser extend the North.
West Germany was denazified by the USA.
Every word spoken by this man was TRUTH.
I am anti Zionism but not anti Judaism. My best friend is a proud Jew and I do respect him very much.
Rania’s interviews are “must watch”
i really like her interviews too, she's great 👍
15:55: I want to state that most people in Germany don't event know what the word zionism means.
17:00: I wrote to the party The Left and complained about their decision. The answer was that they were split on the topic, but then there was "that heavy historical luggage" and this was it then.
The left in Germany is absolutely embarrassing when it comes to palestine
Get rid of such guilt because WW3 is only around the corner and Zionists in Israel will have caused itl.Their tactic is to conflate Zionism with Anti-Semitism. I think there will be a French revolution equivalent soon.
Thank you for speaking out about the topic!
As it sadly lost none of its importance, I just want to add some things being German myself.
- We are taught nothing about Palestinians in schools. As if they do not exist. Honestly in our schools the entire world region does not exist (I am in my late 20s now, there might be slight changes and schooling differs as our 16 federal states are responsible for it.).
- What he says about schooling in regards to colonialism in Africa is true. I learned nothing about it in school, even though I choose history as one of my "main subjects" in my last two school years.
- 1948 is also not taught, probably those manipulators do not manage to come up with a narrative they dare teach in schools. But that also means most Germans know absolutely nothing about the Nakba. And if they learn these days that the term exists, it is only via manipulative media that taint the term not to be about the sorrow of the Palestinans and the misery and opression that followed. They present it as propaganda term that almost only refers to regret of the Palestinians and others in the region not being able to win the 1948 war and drive out the Jews.
- Most people are not aware that Israel ignores a lot of UN resolutions (most for decades).
- The tactic to taint any antizionism or any however substantial criticism of what Israel does cannot be overstated.
- If there are too many arguments for that to work, it is so much ignorance and whataboutism.
The best arguments are usually attacked to the point that they are denied even if proof piles up.
- If you point this tactics out, you are either igbored or accused of being antisemitic.
- The media coverage is lately showing some sparks of hope if you look for them, but the hypocricy and dehumanization is still extremely dominant. And I am talking about media that usually when it comes to unrelated topics provide sophisticated, thoughtful, well-researched coverage. Just to point out the contrast. These people know full well what they are doing. They are too bright to not understand it.
Most atrocities against Palestinians are not reported about. At the same time it feels like every frustrated, hope-ridden stone-thrower is covered five times to prove how awful Palestinians are in the opinion these people are doing everything to push on everyone.
- The media are also quick to push the label "Pro-Hamas" on demonstrators without any effort whatsoever to differentiate between a few who might really entertain somewhat toxic ideas and the large majority who just does not want to sit still while our goverment condones what Israel does.
-That is if they do not ban demonstrations.
- Almost anyone who speaks up about the death and misery the Palestinians endure is accused of not acknowledging Israeli deaths and fear enough, but never vice versa.
It is thorough brainwashing.
Just what came quickly to my mind, this is not an attempt of being a complete list.
I will also not provide proof. Read accounts of others writing about it and decide for yourself if you believe it.
Ich weiß wie du Recht hast, danke fürs Erklären, es ist schade dass man es machen muss aber auch schön zu sehen, dass sich Leute die Mühe machen um die Dinge so darstellen wie sie sind ANSTELLE VON SCHWEIGEN. Als Deutscher find ich es extrem wichtig aufzustehen und darüber zu reden, Bravo! 👍👏☮️
@@robinfriedrich6678 Es ist einfach schade, dass es nötig zu sein scheint, auf diese Taktiken hinzuweisen.
Riana...excellent segment with a very knowledged guest. Very informative. Keep with the good work.
excellent conversation, thank you
What I felt this time was “Germany has not truly reflected or not changed at all.” 10/2023
Klein Naomi is a great author, co-authoring "puppets and proxies"
In the Israel Journal, Hotam(24 November 1989)Deputy Foreign Minister, Ashkenazi Jews, Benjamin Netanyahu, "Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to CARRY OUT MASS EXPULSIONS AMONG THE ARABS OF THE TERRITORIES."
So let me get this straight -- you assuage the guilt of inflicting a holocaust on a people by inflicting a holocaust on another people but you do it by proxy?
How does that work then?
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thank you for this very important content and keep up the great work!
Please cover west papua.. Indonesia is committing genocide with Australian, British and US backing. Nobody even talks about this within anti-imperialist journalism and there’s a complete media blackout in the country
That were done with the full support and connivance of the countries mentioned.
Never heard of it.
There are loads of similar situations round the world.
If it's not involving the Jews we Don't hear about it for some reason
@@michaellamont2605 That's because the collective west dominate the news media and that allowed them to hide such information.
Since they have Russian DNA. That means they have never been a semitic people. Where as the Palestinian people are a semitic people. 👍
ukrainian; khazar; Ashke nazy
Omg the title of this video is what I have been thinking since the beginning of this conflict. As a history buff this is what I was thinking about.
Injustice over injustice.
Go Palestine 🇵🇸
If a group of people can go through the horrors of genocide, then inflict it on a another group of people without a second thought. What does that say of that first group of people ?
This title is amazing German not Nazi. My grandfather who survived 2WW ,has never heard Nazi German ,but only The German.
Germans are Ashke nazy. So both German and Nazy apply. Of course, zayanism hides behind nationality
24:35 - What an absolute cop out. The wars that the current influx of migrants are fleeing are driven primarily by the US, the UK, and various other Western allies, of which Germany are a tiny part of, and definitely not a driving force.
The countries that these two were happily praising earlier in the video are the ones responsible for most of the pain and suffering in the Arab world today. Why not move on from the specific Israel/Palestine question, and address why millions of Middle Eastern citizens are feeling the need to migrate West. You will find Germany near the bottom of the list of reasons, and the US/UK at the top!
BDS..🇯🇴🇯🇴🇯🇴
Germany took a vow: It will never be on the right side of the history 😂😂😂
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Geez, the German convoluted rationalizations would confuse dystopian authors, Orwell, Huxley and Atwood.
Never ever ceases to be German Crimes and Israeli Crimes.
With American complicity
I'm watching a lot of good commentaries on this issue, and this is one of the best. Thank you
I visited Yugoslavia as a child. It’s always held a special place in my heart. So rugged and beautiful. ❤
Only I see Stockholm syndrome of Israel with Germany here?
Good evening Rania. David 🙏🏻🤗🙏🏿.
Un Islamic to blame Present or even Past Germans of Israel's Genocide against the Palestinians since 1948. Going that road, you'll lose whatever sympathy Germans May have for our Brethren in Palestine.
Don't blame all Jews either!!!
Blame the ZIONISTS and their Evangelical Allies!
Salaams from East Africa
We don't want their sympathy. All they have to do is to stop bothering/punishing people for criticizing Isreal.
then give blame to the true problem,the islamo supremacist colonialism of jewish land for 1400 years that has led to fakestine trying to destroy the only jewish nation on earth,admit it finally,if u have any humanity or decency left in u
Hi guys and selam.
great show. I'd like to suggest looking a little deeper into to things related to ur topic.
First are the Zionist founders of the state of Israel. Especially their commitment to Judaism. It will not surprise that Israel has developed in this monstrous thing after recognising the mindsets of its founders and how far they are from God serving believing Jews.
Second is German racism. I do believe that it's roots are deeper and older than people think. These folks are arrogant in a way that is is often hidden behind a righteous face but, oh boy. Even the ones wearing yoga pants and sandals all the time are sure that they know everything better and their ways are superior and should be accepted and adopted by everybody everywhere. With the arrival of the millions of muslim refugees from those countries the Germans have helped to destroy, they have even created new words like, Leitkultur which translates to Leading Culture.
"With the arrival of the millions of muslim refugees...." - yes, because Germany is *so racist*. Being pro-integration is not racist.
Racism has nothing to do with arrogance and blanket condemnations don't help. “The Germans” only exist to a limited extent; they differ from state to state.
Which countries did Germany destroy or to which destruction did Germany contribute?
@@linnyschlamm3310 u go educate urself linny! And don't reply, please. Nitger here for discussions nor to educate
oh,so u want to blame europeans but not the califate of islamo supremacy that occupied jewish land for 1400 years and has led to this tug of war now between israel and fakestine, trying to destroy only jewish nation on earth,examine yourself for you are no better,all are sinners sir
No! Germany and Palestine suffered from the same European disease!
It fits in Perfectly with German Lebensraum Philosophy, Encouraging Israeli Lebensraum Philosophy.
Thank you I just shared the video on twt and will send it to many people as possible
Just who the heck are these 2 professionals ?!?!?!. These 2 people have some of the most bizzarre political views I’ve heard in some time, in my opinion.
Why didn't germany have to give up some of its land for a jewish homeland?
Great questions again, Rania is a top class journalist!
The Balfour-Declaration was signed during WW1 and some view it as the receipt for buying Jewish allegiance during the war. This is as much on the UK as it is on G.
This podcast focuses on Germany. It’s about time we talk about Germany’s continuing crimes.
You guys are spot on. I've said the same thing many years ago.
Same sentiment for the Dutch: in no country outside Nazi Germany were people so eager to hand in Jews to the Nazi's.
Not so sure if it was "eager" we were after all ruled by a ruthless occupier . Although it wouldn't surprise me . For decades we are brainwashed with stories of Anne Frank and how many Jews could count on being taken in and hidden. The Netherlands too is a guaranteed unconditional Israel supporter ; which was only understandable after all the horror stories the liberated nations were fed.
No one knew then about Washington's empire politics where war is a valid tool to realise world dominance ambitions.
We all were very successfully lied to that "America Is Good" which at the time was understandable , after all , Uncle Sam was our "liberator". Not knowing the U.S. was part of cooking up WW3 which served the U.S. (and Israel) very well.
History is about to repeat itself.
A competition for most Jew-hating European country is like a seagull Battle Royale over a small fries outside a McDonald's drive-thru: Many contenders, with no clear winner.
Bollocks. Ask BUG questions.
Jews are known liars.
Wasn't the UK who encouraged the creation of the State of Israel?
Aha, rumour has it a couple of jews were in concentration camps so Churchill, who was a zionist, told stalin to FRO with his idea about a second front.
A dozen was just not worth the squeeze.
Thanks for all your efforts to bring the truth out about the conflict in the Middle East
Exactly what the Israel doing to Palestinian what they Hitler's did to Jewish people is same thing why in the world know one says anything
Insightful conversation
Support for justice!
I follow your show. Thanks Rania for speaking up.
I have posted many times that Israel should have been given land in Germany, since they were the ones trying to kill them, instead of Palestain that had nothing to do with their issues. Interesting this video is so old.
This was a brilliant interview
It is indeed, Horrifying 😢😮
Interesting to listen to you as german. I would enjoy to talk to you. I have studied history especially the third reich and afterwards I have made an education as traumatherapist. During my studies I became leftwing and from this time onwards I had a devided relationship to israel. Today I am pro-palestine. But this was a long way for me to get there. Like the jews in Israel, I was more or less brainwashed by media, politics and a powerful israel-lobby. By discovering (very late in my life) facebook and youtube I found a new world opening. From all over the globe I suddenly could gather informations. When ending my work I had much time; hungry for information I was since then continually on search to fill the gaps in my knowledge. I have startet to learn more about the history of the jews in palestine and the history of the palestinians since the jews arrived in their land.
Don't expect peace when you cherish hatred bitterness and voilence.
Are Palestinians Semitic people? I think European Jews are not Semitic?
That's correct. But they don't even care . If they can fool people, it's fine for them
Thank you Rania❤
This is unfortunate By the Palestine that Germans committed crimes but Palestinians paying the price with their lives
Out rageous ' why should Palestinians blood spills for Germany sins base on the past
I feel its important to distinguish between being Jewish and being Zionist.
Biden said America needs an Israel in the Middle East, its the best 3B dollar investment they have.
This is the biggest problem, I pray people would wake up to.
Israel was founded as a secular state, it is the only secular, liberal democracy in the region and well worth the investment. Egypt and Jordan also get billions, it's a tough game.
@@nuqwestr 😂 democracy? Aparthied, I think you mean.
@@robynbaptiste295620% Arab
Now Palestine you would be killed for being Jewish.
Judaism is Israel 🇮🇱
You can't separate the 2
Palestinians were deprived of the possibility of having their own land when 6 Arab countries attacked Israel with the goal of grabbing land. Egypt grabbed Gaza and Jordania the West Bank.
It's like those dog owners who own a vicious dog as an alter-ego projection, to use to intimidate indirectly.
Never knew that Germany colonized and murdered the peoples of Namibia, this is a good show...
Oh yea the Germans committed genocide against certain people in Namibia in the late 19th century. I don't think Germany hasn't even expressed regret let alone apologised for their trangressions.
And the Bakweri of Cameroon and crazy wars in East Africa.
Because of different religion and different skin colour.....your land and lives are fair game.....free for the taking?
Thank you 🎉
Thank you for the information!
They've replaced antisemitism with islamophobia
A phobia is irrational
Islam has destroyed nearly every country
@@michaellamont2605u mean America destroyed nearly every country 😂
@@basmam3366 the banking system
Which is just communism has done a great job at that.
Islam next
I have been cursing the Germans all week and will not apologise for it.