Fly Fishing for Bass Part 2 What Gear do You Need?
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Fly Fishing for Bass Part 2 What Gear do You Need #bassonthefly #flyfishing
In part 2 we talk about what gear you will need to catch bass on a fly rod. I talk a little about fly rods, fly reels, fly lines, leaders and of course flies. If you haven't seen Part 1 Why You Should Fly Fish for Bass check it out here: • Fly Fishing for Bass P...
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Part 2 of this series. Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions. Check out Part 1 here: ua-cam.com/video/3DMDac1YvaI/v-deo.html
So glad you got a UA-cam channel!! I just started fly fishing and love it! You an inspiration to me and my channel Keep at it! Thanks!
Hey so glad the videos are helping you out.
Hey Alvin, ROOKIE angler here. I was wondering why the laughter at the strike indicator nymph fishing rig. Is it this style of rig outdated? Has it been replaced by Euro nymph rig or what is it? Just trying to get a grasp on all this fly fishing knowledge. Thanks man I love your vids
@@DonJulio213 When I was a trout guide in Colorado the indicator rig was my last choice. Only if nothing else worked. I know it's the go to rig for a lot of people and sometimes it is the only way to catch fish, but I think it has become a crutch especially for a lot of guides. If you have beginners you can put on an indicator and they can catch fish, but at the end of the day they don't really know much more about fly fishing than they did at the beginning of the day.
@@AlvinDedeauxFlyFishing understood! Thanks man!
Alvin, I'm just an old retired guy getting into it. Appreciate you laying it all out so simple. R.
Never too late to get started. Good luck out there!
Great information, thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Love it!! Thank you!
Yay! Very solid stuff!
Great video bro! Thanks
Thanks man! This was super simple and informative!!
I fish for bass but Im new to fly fishing. Great videos for learning the ropes.
I took notes Sir.
Very helpful. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the video and education. I will definitely be utilizing this.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much for this video! I’m just about to get an 8 weight reel along with a rod and I’m in Florida where bass are here prevalent! I’m super excited cuz I’ve been using baitcasters and spinning for the last 6 years and I’m pumped to try something new!
I live in western Washington State in the Great Pacific North West. We have some decent largemouth and Small mouth fisheries up here.
Frankly, until recently, I have largely ignored them....
As our summer weather continues to get warmer every year I have found myself shutting down stillwater trout fishing earlier and earlier.
Last summer I targeted Bass on the fly for the first time... with zero success.
I am very thankful that I found your channel! I am looking forward to putting your tips to work as I am sure they will improve my efforts.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
THanks for being here and good luck!
Thanks for the tips.
Happy to help!
Great info, great video
Glad it was helpful!
Loved the chuckle at the bobbers or uh I mean strike indicators..........LOL
I couldn't help myself. 😂
Love your page
Thank you!
Love this series too ! You have passion for what you do and I feel it
No doubt about that.
Love the new videos, Alvin. Speaking of, what video is running on the screen behind you with the statement “ everything you were about to witness happen within one hour of downtown Austin.” Big fan of the Howler Bros gear as well.
Awesome video man. Thanks
Glad you liked it!
Right on man....have some time on so. TX water down Lake Buchanan. Enjoy ALL the content sir, kick ass! Rip lips!
Comphrehensive and to the point. Well done. Thanks for video!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Straight to the point, awesome video. Learned so much in 10 min. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
In Georgia I get WF taper floating loop end. Leader to fly (and no less than ) 8 foot to 10 foot. And the reel to me is just the line holder so i can go with the $99 special or even the $59. good video!
Alvin you Are The Man! Mike and I loved the video
Thanks and keep up the good work over there!
Thanks man for the organized details. U answered all of my questions in this single video. Much appreciated 🤛🏼
Happy to help!
Love it bro 🤘
Thanks 🔥
Learned a lot from that one. Thx
Thanks for watching!
Once again Alvin great great stuff. Strike indicator nymph rigs. Your giggle after that is infectious. Very practical and aplicable knowledge here!
Thanks so much for watching. Yeah I try to have fun with this stuff.
Alvin I'm glad I found your channel. Great advice and helpful. Keep it up.
Thanks for watching!
I love how you laughed at the strike indicator/nymph rig 😂😂😂😂
Glad I’m not the only one
😅
It’s effective for browns and native Brookie’s in my area.
Nicely done. Everything you need, nothing you don’t.
Yeah keep it simple.
Easily the most comprehensive and quality guide for starting to chase bass on the fly. Alvin I’m a huge supporter keep up the amazing videos man!! Much love and positivity from here in KY!!
I appreciate that!
Alvin...thanks a million man. Great video and exactly everything I needed to hear. I’m trying to get this fly fishing thing figured out.
Glad it was helpful!
Just found your channel. Great stuff man
Welcome aboard!
Great video man! Click, watch, learn...it's that easy!!!
Question for you: do you have a particular brand and/or model drift/raft boat you use??? Really looking at all the brands and manufacturers out there but want expert opinions please.
Thanks again, and keep them videos coming!!!
Dude, I watched your 1st episode that I came across by coincidence,,,the whole video was full of great info for beginners like me but one thing i took and implemented right away while testing my new fly rod and real combo this morning. I hooked a 16 incher bass and instead of pulling my rod up, I pulled the line…..I wish I can post the pics here. dude, thank you so much for the knowledge and the tips you have provided. I am watching your 2nd episode now lol!
Aw man thanks for letting me know! Good luck out there.
Got myself a fly rod and looking forward to catching some bass this year with the help of your videos. Thanks for posting great content!
Good luck! Thanks for watching.
This is great Alvin, I'm a total gear fishing geek & really enjoyed your presentation, good material! I'm sharing this with my fly fishing club Fly Fishing Women of Minnesota!
Awesome, thank you!
Great video series!. I'm just starting on bass fishing on a fly this year. I'm in NJ and there's some good river water to SM.
Good luck!
Finally someone with great audio thank you!
Still working on it, but thanks for noticing.
Id love to see you do some Pan fishing videos with the fly set up
Slabs and dinner plates on the fly
Thanks for giving folks the heads up with the advice about reels and getting a spare spool now when you buy a reel, 8wts in particular. I found out the hard way recently buying an older 8wt reel. I can not find a spare spool for it. 🤦🏻♂️ LOL
I have been there as well 😂
Hey Alvin, awesome videos man! I heard you mention your leader for your bass setup if 50# butt, 35# mid and 20# tippet, what is the approximate length of the leader you typically tie and what are the lengths of the component sections? Thanks a ton!
Hey man loved the video
Glad you liked it!
Hi Alvin
Have you thought about doing a video on reading bass waters? I'm new to FF for smallmouth. I'm in NJ and the rivers are small to medium size, not many big boulders, some down trees and bends. Can wade just about any of them which I like.
Hi Alvin thanks for the great info. I'm just learning how to fish for SMB in rivers during the summer. Seems I've had more success fishing edges of current like I would for trout. Can you talk about where to find them. Should I avoid slow water? Where to use poppers on rivers?
Enjoyed the video! I would like to see a video on how you make your own leaders for bass someday, if you get a chance.
That is one I have on the list. Thanks for watching!
Fly patterns I have caught a ton of bass on crayfish, mouse, and just recently on a San Juan worm. I just tied a bunch of your flip flop pattern poppers and will be using them next week on one of my favorite bass lakes here in Kansas. Love the channel man!
Thanks for watching!
I have caught more bass on the following flies . A brown diving muddler , white or chartreuse long tail poppers, the classic mouse , frog fly with legs . and finally, a sinking fly that mimics a salamander for mid spawn .
Great video! I need to try out one of those flip flop poppers
You should!
Just posted a video on how to tie them. ua-cam.com/video/PS7V-IIUaRg/v-deo.html
🙌🙌
Nice set up the Helios 3D with the Nautilus reel , I also use the 3D 8wt super versatile , bass , bonefish , red fish , permit , roosters etc . The other rod ii use is the TFO BVK another great rod . Like your leader set up , like you I tie my own much cheaper and you can do it all in fluorocarbon. What don’t you like about the Nautilus reels ? I have been looking at them , I see a lot of salt water guys with them . Another informative video , keep them coming .
Oh man nothing wrong with the Nautilus reels.
We seem to have the same attitude toward strike indicators. Good solid info here.
Yeah they catch fish, but It's not my favorite way for sure.😂
@@AlvinDedeauxFlyFishing You might like this. I hate itty bitty flies of any kind. I don't mind that I can't see them on the water. That goes with the territory. But I do mind tiny hooks and gossamer-thin tippets.
A few years ago I said the hell with it, got a bunch of size 18 blue wing olive wet flies, and tied a piece of 5x to the hook of a Stimulator. Stimmie stops or disappears, fish has taken the BWO.
But the Stimmie eventually gets soaked. So I started using a small panfish popper, white or orange. The kind you get in a pack of 12 at a big box store.
I get some funny looks from the die-hard trout guys -- who are still trying to tie on their size 48 BWO on 17X tippet.
@@plsullivan62 That's awesome. Might have to try that next time I go trout fishing.
As an age 77 senior, I wade fish for trout, but want to step up to a 7 or 8 weight fly rod system for bass. I do not own a boat, so shore and wade fishing will be my presentation method. Having fly fished for decades, I am wondering if on of my 9 foot bamboo three piece rods would work for bass. These rods are generally 3-piece 7 weights, cast well, and have good reserve power. The down side can be that the guides may be small to accommodate today's fly lines. The classic bamboo rods were designed for silk fly lines which are smaller in diameter, so I may have to remove the original guides and whip finish larger stripper, snake, and tip guides on one of these rods. The bamboo rods are heavier than the graphite fly rods these days, so a full day of casting requires some conditioning which I am up for. I will also get a 9 - 10 foot bass 4 piece bass fly rod in case the cane proves too much to handle. What weight and length graphite bass fly rod may I consider for large mouth bass in lakes and small mouth bass in smaller rivers, keeping in mind that I wade using breathable chest waders? I tie my own flies and make leader systems. Ron, NE Iowa.
I’m gonna make my own liter I had the bass of a life time destroy the leader I was using 12lb one quick jerk he was gone and took my lucky lure
What about rod action, say for a popper and a streamer...how important is it in regards to Hookset, casting etc....fast vs moderate vs slow/glass etc...or does it not matter other than whatever you like best or are proficient with...thanks
Can you do a fly tying video on the flipflop fly Thank You
Yes I will get one up soon.
ua-cam.com/video/PS7V-IIUaRg/v-deo.html
Love these bass on fly videos! Please show us how to tie that popper 🙏
I have gotten so many requests, gonna start working on that here in the next couple of days.
Alvin Dedeaux thanks Looking forward to it.
Just posted that tying video for the popper. ua-cam.com/video/PS7V-IIUaRg/v-deo.html
Great video, how often do you use a sink tip line when bass fishing streams in the hill country?
We use them quite a bit during the winter. In the bigger rivers especially it helps to get down in the deeper holes.
Thank you Alvin for this informative and well presented series! Question about using your popper fly when blind casting - is there any benefit to attaching a small unweighted streamer a couple of feet behind the dry, similar to a a dry dropper rig for trout? Seems like it might increase the odds of inducing a strike but maybe not worth the chance of getting a tangle?
That is a common technique, we use it sometimes, does increase snags though.
@@AlvinDedeauxFlyFishing thank you!
I'll be the odd man out and say that a 5wt rod can work for bass fishing. I use my 5wt on rivers while wading to fish for bass, usually with a sink tip line and streamers but if I get onto any calmer water I have a floating line and poppers to use. The only thing is (and you mentioned this) is that I can't really throw any super large flies. But I've still caught some decent sized bass on a 5wt, the fight is super fun too. Might look into a 7wt rod tho, would be nice to try and target some bigger fish that I might be missing out on.
I use my 5 for small creeks, but really like a 7 for tossing bigger more wind resistant flies
@@profpigeon5441 since posting that comment I've picked up an 8wt rod, just so i could cast big streamers. It's a lot of fun to fish with lol
I have all weights but I enjoy my 6 wt
My go to in freshwater.
Thank You! Nice and simple. I have a 8 wt sage with a 6 wt nautilus X. I know its not ideal based on your video but will that help me cast a lighter line further?
It may, as long as you can load the rod with the line. Shouldn't be a problem getting an 8 weight on that reel though. Might have to take off a little backing.
Alvin, what fly line do you have rigged up on this rod?
Watching from Kentucky The Bluegrass State ,.... get Information
Great work my man. I just messaged you about getting out on a trip soon.
Got it!
Hey Alvin.....Great Video. A quick question...at the end you showed your set up, and then talked about the line you have on specifically your leader. Do you have your tapered leader, then tippet then your fly you showed, or are you just tying that fly to the end of your tapered leader. I am not 100% clear on the leader tippet process.. Thanks and great video.
You can do it either way. Add tippet to the tapered leader or just tie to the tapered leader and add tippet after you change flies a few times.
Nevermind! I watched the video again, got it!
What's your thought on using swivels on your leader? Does it help much with the twisting that might occur when fishing streamers? Great video!
I haven't used them myself, but I have seen a few people use them and the seem to help. We do have to deal with twisted lines a lot so I will have to give them a shot. Seems like a good way to add tippet as well.
There are some fluorocarbon swivels that are light and clear. Very strong. We use for run and gun predator fishing here in AZ.
Thanks Alvin - do you ever use weedless flies? I fish a pond that is loaded with lillypads. Thanks
Yes I posted a tying video of my popper and I put a weedguard on it here is the link: ua-cam.com/video/PS7V-IIUaRg/v-deo.html
What's your opinion on fiberglass rods for bass fishing? I got a great deal on a 7/8 fiberglass rod, but I'm finding the 7ft 6in length a bit limiting for casting bigger flies and getting much distance. Now I'm thinking I should have gone with a 9ft graphite. Enjoyed your video. Thanks, Jeremy
I know a few guys who love fishing for bass with glass rods. Depending on the weight you may have to scale down the flies or adjust your casting for the slower action.
This is a great series! Perfect timing as I am trying to give trout fishing a rest, been looking into bass and other species. What line are you using for your bass rig?
Not sure, weight for ward floater of some sort. I may have a redfish line on the 8 weight.
@@AlvinDedeauxFlyFishing Thanks! Figured it was some type of weight forward line. Cant wait for the next part!
Which Helios do you recommend for large water bass + redfish? I know 8wt 9ft (thats what we normally use with you, correct? But 3d or 3f?
I like the 3D.
could you do a video on just explaining leaders?
For sure 👍
Alvin Dedeaux thank you man. i really appreciate it
that geen popper looks like Q-bert, that old video game, call it the Q-bert
Hey man, can you clarify your leader setup? Are you attaching tippet material to Tippet material? So 40lbs tied to 30lbs tied to 20lbs?
Love the videos, keep them coming!
Not asking me, but I figured I'd help out. Yes. You can use any monofilament line. The tippet is simply the last part of the leader. But tippet material can be used as the leader itself. He goes a little heavier than I do, but that's personal preference. I use 30#mono to 20#, then 15#, then depending on fly size usually 0x or 1x tippet.
Yes and yes
Thanks for the input. I would use that leader as well.
So do you fish top water all day? Concentrate topwater around the dawn and dusk timeframe, and streamers in the heat of the day? Depends on the season? Thanks for the videos!
Yeah it depends on the season. Prime time is topwater all day. Mostly spring and fall. Winter is pretty much all sinking lines. Heat if summer topwater early and late.
Alvin Dedeaux thanks man moving to a more bass heavy area and soaking up all I can.
What rod holder is that inside your vehicle at the 2:52 mark?
Sorry for the delay, it's an ancient version of the rod loft.
Does everything you’re saying about leaders and tipper and tying your own stay the same if it’s a 5 wt rod or how is it different maybe is a better question? I’m still mostly catching panfish and some bass but it’s the setup I have right now.
Yeah, pretty much. Just might want to scale it down a bit.
@@AlvinDedeauxFlyFishing cool thanks man! Appreciate the content too btw especially the fly tying!
When timing your leaders what lengths do you use?
For floating lines, 6 to 9 foot. For sinking lines 3 to 5 foot.
@@AlvinDedeauxFlyFishing yeah I fly but alot or rivers . I want to get into flying for bass and larger fish like northerns here in Colorado. I euro also so i was wondering if you tie your leaders like euro. Bigger backing like 8ft 20lb then 15lb to 10lb.
Hi Alvin , hope all's good. I was curious if you would mind telling us your favorite brand of flyline?
Lately I have been using Orvis and Scientific Anglers.
Thank you!
So what you think if a guy was fishing both redfish and bass a 8 weight?
I do it all the time.
What line to line knot do you use to make your leaders????
Blood knots.
Thank you.
If you were mostly catching 10-12" bass in a river (Brazos, Colorado, etc.), would you take a 6wt too or just do everything with an 8wt?
My thoughts are the fish would be more fun on the 6wt but the 8wt makes it easier to cast something like a size 6 popper for distance.
Just curious what you think.
Yeah I always take the 6 weight. I'll throw a big popper on the 8 weight some days even though I know I will catch less fish for the chance at a few big ones. Just depends on what kind of mood I'm in.
What do you do if your gear is terrible and you can’t upgrade?
Fish what you have, Anything is better than nothing.
I TELL THE GOOOOD JOKESSSS
You know it!
How long is each section of leader?
I usually just eyeball it, but I shoot for 3' for the but section, 3' for the mid section and 2' for the tippet.
Alvin Dedeaux thanks Alvin!
What's wrong with a Nymph rig? Best way to catch Trout.
Nothing wrong with it, just not the way I like to do it.
Who else is here after watching Meat Eater?
Ha ha, seems like a trend. Thanks for stopping by! 😀