John Cleese: The British press are completely unscrupulous
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2022
- John Cleese has branded the British press "completely unscrupulous". This video clip has been taken from James O'Brien's exchange with John Cleese on the Full Disclosure podcast. You can listen to the full exchange on Global Player here - l-bc.co/3TmeiuA
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That put down of Piers Morgan was a classic 👏👏👏👏👏
not to mention 100% deserved
It was...it really was! 😁
Any put down of Piers Morgan is well deserved.
Agreed 😂😂😂
Loved it.
He's right about the British press 💯
Of course 👍
Absolutely. They're trash.
@@prideofdurham4776 no, cause they're specifically calling out the tabloids. don't get me wrong, LBC likes to dabble in hypocrisy but this is specifically regarding the Rags.
I was working as a media analyst from 2019 until April this year and had to deal with a lot of different media from many European countries. The British press is definitely among the worst in Central/Western/Northern Europe. It's actually quite sad to see, really.
@jcorb Because they all have the wankers number.
As a media person, did you encounter the ESG rating mandated by BlackRock as being something you had to fulfill or was it more mandated in general by your coworkers?
@Luna Azulis I agree. Our British press is evil incarnate. They criticised Princess Diana with increasing degrees of brutality, and the moment she died their malice instantly turned into 12-page pull-outs of the 'People's Princess.'
Likewise, on the same day one thoughtless newspaper ran a headline calling for The Queen's abdication because she was 'too old' to attend functions - so she died a few hours later.
Then barely is she in the ground when our papers start up a load of nastiness about a feud between Charles and Andrew, and the Sussex's. They hadn't even been allowed their time to grieve properly before it all started.
And that's just The Royal Family - never mind celebrities and countless ordinary people who've had their lives ruined by biased, exaggerated and downright inaccurate headlines.
😢🥺😭
@@debbiehenri345 Best not to read the papers or look a social media….read stuff where people behave ethically.
I live in Australia and I thought the Australian press was bad. I looked at the UK press and omg! How do you people tolerate this? These are some of the worst people imaginable writing this stuff.
That's why only really old people who don't know how to internet search for truth watch that bs
Well nowadays anyone with a brain doesn't read or watch it.
@@TashHag108 I disagree I'm old but I can't stand any of the MSM channels dont judge us all
The untested truths spun by different interests continue to churn and accumulate in the sandbox of political correctness and value systems.
When I take a look on Daily Mirror or The Sun I know German press isn't that bad.
Some years ago, i was working as a PA in an office in London. My boss asked me to ring John Cleese and ask him for his address. I called the number, that was on file and this brilliant man's familiar voice picked up the phone..I explained from where i was calling and asked if I could have his address and he said, in a Yorkshire accent "shoe box int middle of road".... hilarious 🤣
The only information 100% correct in any newspaper is the date.
100% factually wrong
There might be a donation line and the web site info…. Content? Not so much…
Aren't they about 60 to 70 years off? 😉
They print the paper the day before the correct date
@@Fastvoice What does that mean?
He is absolutely right, too many adults have forgotten to be child-like. This stayed with me for some reason; and thank goodness for that.
The Tory Cabinet haven't, and look at the mess they have left for adults to clean up.
@@brusselssprouts560 Being child-like has nothing to do with childishness; and self-centered mind-set.
Child like but not childish. Adults now days are childish not child like.
no thanks , there's too many children running the world as it is, thats the problem.
Possibly even as children they were never child like, but serious and straight laced due to overbearing parents....overbearing parents include liberal parents too....
Some people do realise how awful our papers are
I know them both !
All british media is awful.... tv news is the worst.
What a refreshingly interesting interview, Just two intelligent, decent human beings enjoying conversation.
Well, one decent human being anyway
@@sn4831 Here Trolly, Trolly, Trolly.
Join ukip.
@@richjones4956 Hey, then it would have a whole THREE members! They're literally just a party now so that they can scam donations from dipshits, but you have fun.
One decent
Mr. Cleese is a true Legend, and therefore worthy to be news
You can listen to the full exchange on Global Player here - l-bc.co/3TmeiuA
He is right, though. Our press is awful.
Although I have to say it is somewhat interesting to hear that from Cleese in particular.
name that awful press, please?
There's a video, from a few year's ago, can't recall who interviewed him. He was very critical about the British press then. He produced facts too. See if you can find it. Learn, so you can keep growing.
@@czarekp3552 most of it
@@czarekp3552 What disingenuous pea brain you are.
@@czarekp3552 The Daily Mail, Telegraph, Express, Sun, Spectator
It's a shame that people like John cleese get old.......we need wise people like him for longer than they're here with us.
You are correct. It has been a year or two since I've watched/heard Cleese, and he has definitely aged.
He is wise as a result of growing older
It says 5 replies but only three are visible to me. They are trying to duct tape/erase paleface men like John Cleese. A warning to those who like to feed copiously at the welfare trough (those who are also, seemingly, lacking in foresight): "Be careful what you wish for, you may just get it." The welfare trough doesn't fill itself; bite the hand that feeds you and you might just land up going hungry!
John Cleese is a role model for us all on how to get old. With a smile and laughter, not frowning and bitterness. Sure, he may be old. But he'll never stop having fun.
@@Eiind No, he's wise as a result of his experiences and perception.
I stopped buying papers in the 1970's and now got to the point of stopped watching the news.
I got rid of the TV … still not enough time in the day .. love it
But isn’t this news?
I have not bought a daily newspaper since 1964, by which you will deduce that I agree with much of what has been said here! There is also a consensus of agreement of about the press that has been written in this column, which makes me wonder why so many people still keep on buying the wretched things! Could it be that a lot of people still go on doing so out of habit, rather than conviction!
They love the matrix
Any media can be used to discern the facts, by cross-referencing. You just have to ignore the interpretation.That's why any source is useful, especially a concise one.
Any of the rags are useful, as long as you can do basic critical reasoning. You have to get information from someewhere.
It can also be useful, to discern what the elite see as the most threatening topic
Saves them having to have their own thoughts. Easier to get them served up on a daily basis. Only rich people can afford to run a newspaper, so printing the truth for the betterment of society is not the purpose.
Not everyone has Internet (reason I stopped buying papers)
Not enough people buy newspapers to boost profits anymore. They're advertising-funded plus they make money from clicks, hence the countless 'stories' featuring salacious headlines!
I absolutely agree with him. I am 55 and people always say how young I look and am. Keep the heart of a child. Keeps me fresh. And exciting.
DONT buy effing papers, save yourself at least £300 a year , no papers no advertising revenue, no more lying reporters
John Cleese is an international treasure. First movie I saw him in was the first live action Jungle Book when I was a kid and I've loved him ever since.
A national treasure
Absolutely wonderful to listen too, 🙏🙏
What a delightful interview! Reminds me never to become cynical.
This reminds me of how, when Stephen Sondheim died earlier this year, I saw a video of a British news report on his death which, in summarizing his career, sought to put it in an entirely negative light as much as possible. It struck me as, indeed, cynical and unscrupulous.
AWESOME. 100% GOLD. Love what you do James. Thank You 😁😁😁
One of the things that made Harry Potter so amazing is how Rowling nailed the behaviour of the British press in Rita Skeeter and her Quick Quote Quill. I really like the Dutch translation of that quill: The "Fantasiteer-veer", the Fantasi-cite quill.
And one of the things that killed it was Rowling being a TURF and negatively Objectifying trans women by attempting to undermine their authenticity in the public sphere.
@@danielleisabellabanyard9968 Rowling pointed out valid worries & warnings against being overly quick to accommodate trans women, without thinking through the consequences for people with two X-chromosomes. She is pro-women, not against trans.
And I do not blame her, as she has been abused and knows women need protection from (biological) men.
As you may not know, men have gained access to some women prisons by claiming to be trans women, only to then start violating the defenseless female inmates. That example clearly demonstrates how right Rowling is.
It may take some time, but I am sure society will come to this conclusion that as long as you have a functional male member, you are a man, and if you went through puberty as a man, you have no business in women's competitions.
@@danielleisabellabanyard9968 it's TERF - Trans. Exclusionary. Radical. Feminist. Not tryna be a pedant but the acronym doesn't make sense with a U.
@@danielleisabellabanyard9968 such a childish outburst
@@tomwilko7841 🤣🤣🤣
I seem to remember him announcing he would leave the UK because of Brexit.
Explains his house in Los Angeles then.
@@bigmattesq lol
He did. He buggered off to some Caribbean island.
He did. He lives in the Caribbean
He was for Brexit, he said London isn't British anymore.
Why do some think they can go around abusing people? They’re crazy imo. John Cleese is a living legend. Don’t agree with everything he says but he does well and I wish him all the best. About time the media stopped dehumanising people just because it fits in a narrative. It’s unintelligent and doesn’t demonstrate a very well rounded point at times.
Have to also wonder why people read or listen to the media.
The corporate media is unscrupulous indeed. Consider who and what owns the various outlets and it's easy to work out their agenda, how and why they manipulate the way they do. Who owns the corporate media? The financial elite, sometimes referred to as oligarchs.
Start your own newspaper then - there you go, problem solved.
Oh yeah, that's cheap and easy!
Agreed 👍
@@101cheekie and also true.
@@handbags4948 Give you a column... Ask A Village Idiot.
The UK media is basically an Oxbridge social club.... Journalism used to be a working class occupation.
Really? You sure?
Really? You sure?
When was that?
@@smith5796 yeah- all those builders turned newspaper magnates and News room editors. Legal and financial reporters- all former plumbers.
I definitely agree on that human tendency in some people to reach a stage in life where they convince themselves that they know all that they need to know and that all they know is perfectly correct. It is essentially an acknowledgement of giving up on life, IMO.
My favorite British actor and comedian of all time..he was absolutely brilliant
He is!
James never did return to the subjects of woke and Brexit with Cleese which is a shame as I would love to hear Cleese’s thoughts on those.
FRIT!
He thinks people go too far on "woke," but anyone who uses that term unironically is a numbskull. You can be edgy and offensive without punching down all the time. The right wing tries to use his arguments about comedy to push their social views of oppression.
Cleese supported brexit not sure how he feels about it now
Well Cleese does heavily hint that he probably feels very differently about Brexit now.
I'm not English nor do i live in England but even i know the British media is unscrupulous. I think it's known world wide that it's on it's own level of shamelessness.
We thank you for the compliment:))))
Wow …a proper conversation. Thank you !
He is right and Morgan is at the bottom of the gutter.
Oh, some of us have known about the British media for years. Decades even. News has come to mean very different things to different people. The fact and relivence dimensions became occluded by opinion and socioculturally charged political hegemony. I think this will only change once the the News becomes more important than the people reading or publishing that News.
When any entity becomes to enamoured with itself to the point of losing its objectivity through inflated subjectivity , the sense of decency and fairness becomes lost to unreasonableness .. !
What a joy. Mr. Cleese is a wonderful human.
Where do I watch in full?
What a brilliant guy! He has given me so many laughs over the years that I am forever in his debt.
How do I watch the full video podcast? I can only find the audio version
two lovely, intelligent people, having a chat about things.
refreshing to see.
kind regards.
Lovely intelligent ? James O'Brien 😂😂😂
@@muttley5958 I know right haha
I think James O'Brien is the most arrogant, obnoxious, self-opinionated hypocrite I have ever heard! He slates people about their attitudes and behaviour whilst he delights in tearing them to shreds based purely on his own opinions! Shame he doesn't put himself under the microscope like he does everyone else or hold himself to the same standards of perfection that he expects from others. Total hypocrite!
@@muttley5958 not intelligent?
What a joy! Simply to listen to those two great men having a discussion together.
@@boz2201 I suspect we may look back later and realise just how much James has done for society in this country. You may disagree.
Who is the other great man besides Mr Cleese?
@@i_wouldprefer_not_to1196
I've answered that already. You may disagree with me. That's a prerogative I wouldn't deny you, but I believe James to be making very important contributions to the future of our country.
@@adrianbell6041 I would say his contribution is belittling people who are less intelligent than him on a radio phone in and then putting the clips online for clicks. Personally I don't think it's tremendously helpful.
@@sratus I'm happy for you. I've seen videos of people who do that & it's not my understanding of his work. I'm also comfortable conceding you have your right to interpret things how they make sense to you - as well as to express that.
I believe his work is very helpful, and clearly he's intelligent, but the difference is the work he puts in to prepare his informed opinions. That's the crux in my view.
Where can I find the whole interview?
While I disagree with him about Brexit, I have an incredible amount of respect for Mr. Cleese. The man has brought me a lot of joy over the years.
Can’t forgive him for Brexit
@@uhtredragnorson9930 He was 100% correct on Brexit....
@@uhtredragnorson9930 can’t forgive him 🤣 get over yourself!
@@uhtredragnorson9930 he must be heartbroken 😂😂😂 wally!
@@raymurphy9749 🤣❤️🤣
Have you asked him why he hates Scottish people so much yet? Genuinely interested.
It’s hard to like people that hate you ?
@@nathanfurnival8724 You confuse cause and effect.
@@nathanfurnival8724 Huh?
Apologies in advance for the crass oversimplification. I’m English. I lived in Scotland for 5 years. Scottish people, are straightforward, passionate and egalitarian, instinctively stick up for the underdog and are unflinchingly loyal should they choose to be in your corner. I tell this to everyone I meet - providing they are not Scottish. As an English person, you just can’t say that to a Scottish person without unleashing a tirade of preening smugness and arrogance. So I prefer most Scots people think I’m ambivalent about them - it just brings out their best. And the best of a Scot is very fine thing indeed. Maybe John was doing the same.
The class system holds sway in the press as it it does in politics.
Well James knows how hard we have things, he spent a fortnight on a building site!
Journalism has almost entirely disappeared. Replaced by Politburo communiques. We passed Orwell some years ago.
"People don't realise how awful our papers are".
Which is why he supported Brexit, a personal project of the worst of the British media. I love his work, but this man seems like a weathervane. One moment we need to be out of the EU, next moment it's all the media's fault. I wonder which party he supports, because it seems like he's avoiding discussing failings of government.
They are obviously more comic than literature but if people don't trust them why does it matter?
Hang on didn’t he say he would leave the UK because of Brexit?
He didn’t support Brexit because it’s what the media wanted. The media weren’t the only people in Britain who believed in Brexit. That’s like saying Cleese writes books which are published on paper, just like the Sun and Express.
@@charliecampbell197 because propaganda and mass manipulation WORKS
@@martinwatson9615 Actually he did. He said it a few times after the referendum... then he got very annoy with how big of a mess it became sometime before the 2019 General Election, so he decides to leave. Not sure what he thinks of it now. Wasn't particularly impress by his reasoning for his views on the matter. He is not much different for Dyson, likely more ignorant.
James Obrien talking to John Cleese!!! Ive heard it all now!
Anyone know how to watch the whole thing?
He’s absolutely right
Is there access to the full version without the need to subscribe ?
Better off reading VIZ than the British press. Its much more accurate and truthful.-Said Jenny Tulls, 69 from Cockermouth.
@@boz2201 🤣😂😂
We live in a world where absurdist comedians make the most sense.
Let that sink in for a minute.
What a brilliant exchange! I love LBC!
That statement after James interrupted John to ask if he had worked with the Dali Lama 😂
Could James have got any further up John's backside?
Excellent interview. More like this please.
As an Australian I disavow any association Rupert Murdoch may have had with this country. Murdoch realised that profits are far more important than quality journalism many years ago but politicians on both sides of the Atlantic seem fine with that.
Having known the inside information behind many stories, it's shocking the drivel published in most British newspapers. Worse than that, they vindictively continue to publish material about individuals who have had some misfortune, and even when the information is long expired, they pathetically claim it's in the public interest to keep it there. The mechanisms to deal with them are pathetic and inaccessible to most, particularly those burdened by the very event(s) published.
I have to listen to the whole podcast as from this clip it will be thoroughly entertaining.
Pity he embraced Brexit then left the country when it went wrong Like many including Jim Radcliffe Dyson and no doubt Boris when he becomes a French citizen
Brexit didn’t go wrong. We just didn’t get the Brexit we voted for … it was incomplete (Norhern Ireland), it was late (4 years in its implementation) and it was wrongly blamed for all kinds of spurious failures of government both in the U.K. and in the EU. Our political establishment were institutionally Europhile and our civil service remains so.
@@Jack-bs6zb ‘we’ had a straight choice of stay or leave, with no details. The vote went in favour of leave, and we left, so we got what ‘we’ voted for.. it’s nonsense to say otherwise..
@@Jack-bs6zb Brexit dint go wrong - so collapse in our currency, FTSE 100 worst performing index in the G7, Lowest export market in 38 years, City of London loosing 10,000 plus jobs, the arts world cut off from Europe, Sewage spilling into our beaches and rivers. highest inflation in the G7, huge lines at our ports and airports, NHS struggling even more, our oversees reputation trashed, the so called US trade deal utterly failed and they are now going with the EU (what a surprise) no chance of any trade deals to replace the massive loss in costs and tariffs to Europe our largest tradiing partner Caught between Europe and the US against Russia and now India and China You are a clown
@@Jack-bs6zb There is none so blind as those that will not see. You voted to leave based on complete and utter lies. Keep telling yourself Brexit didn't go wrong as Britain collapses around your ears.
Fantastic stuff
big beaming grin on his face.
what a moment to have a legend like john cleese to chat with!
I like John Cleese.
James, your 'Full Disclosure' podcast is completely broken through a PC browser, any other way we can listen to this?
How do I see this full interview?
Link in the description
@@martinwatson9615 cheers
Quite true about the British press, I can remember a quote from Kelvin McKenzie, when he was editing a red-top, that it was his job as editor to sort the wheat from the chaff and print the chaff.
That’s because of the readers , not the journalists
" If you're out to get the honey, don't go killing all the bees"
From a man who lives in Nevis, the world's most secretive tax haven, somewhat dulls the Cleese more worthy choices in life.
I think you'll find that he is no longer a resident there
He doesn’t live there anymore but so what if he did? Why should he give his money to a government who wants to use that money to destroy all he holds dear?
Are you some kind of boot licker?
Apparently he did this for a while as he’d lost so much money with his divorces……..
This needs to be two seperate clips. The second half was amazing.
I look up to him because I am working class.
Wow , pleased to meet you , not many of us remain ..
Mr Intelligence Limited... Working class men don't generally spend bank holiday catching up on UA-cam in my experience. 😁
@@danielleisabellabanyard9968 It's a reference to one of his sketches, you silly goose.
I completely agree, especially after having seen their "reporting" on a charity event involving the then-Duchess of Cornwall.
2 very intelligent guys , lovely to listen to
Finally two living legends together, James and John! Nothing better then to see them together. I'm not with John Cleese on Brexit, but that is just his opinion.
When you make your career from being someone who says whatever he feels like, making fun of just about any and all subjects including race, racism, religion, atheism, and even death, you achieve a position where you can just say whatever you want and don't care what people think
Thank you for changing the term from childish to childlike. People often confuse the two.
that Dali Lama joke was low-key brilliant. "he's not used to being interrupted" some may take at face value as a reference to conversation, but it's a double entendre in that the Dali Lama is supposed to be a reincarnate being who's yet to be interrupted in his cycle of mystical hocus pocus and such silly things as that.
Love it when they keep commenting on a country he doesn't live in!
The right say he has left Britain. No…he is just visiting the rest of the world and living in hotels.
Is view of Britain is it as gone down the toilet because of immigrants and woke.
Genius can only be born never taught ……. 💥🗝 👀 ⚖️ 🎯 …
What a man! Still funny with dignity!
John Cleese who said London is too diverse then set up sticks in another country. Priceless.
Another country would only have 1 race of people.
But not in one completely demographically replaced like London. The Cockney has gone the same way as the Dodo.
@@garethmurray5901 Well. No. For a start another country would have one nationality, not race necessarily.
Second, it would immediately become 2 nationalities/races (at least) as soon as this hypocrite rocks up.
Immigration is capitalism importing an over supply of labour in, its a race to the bottom, particularly for the working class.
Oligarchs love immigration. Reduces us all to just economic units.
@@foehammer5047 is 2 diverse? DIVERSITY means variety.
The 2 Cleese/Skynner books are well worth reading.
John Cleese is solid gold, turned human.
It used to be that every one criticized News of the World type of journalism now all British press is comparable
Don't mention the Brexit.
You can never hope to bribe nor twist,
thank you the british journalist
but seeing what the man will do
unbribed there’s no occasion to!
Trouble is John, they will always get the last word… obituaries.
Dame seeing John Cleese that old reminds me of how old I’ve become.
"I don't know if people realise it"
The irony... it's too much.
Absolutely true
John has total control and as much as I disagree with the host on so many things it's a fantastic Interview. That loss of fear about media and press. Brilliant 👏
Including O'Brien.
My only problem with "...Flying Circus' was it was too defuse. But Fawlty Towers was great.
I worry about comments that denigrate an entire profession. Many reporters are doing day-to-day jobs of telling you about the fire up the street or about the latest situation with regard to the NHS or what the delays on the M25 are. What's so unscrupulous about that?
JC our Lord ( Not the Nine O Clock News ) , Great to see him
Whatever you make of Cleese's politics or life-take, his comedy is red belt.
Forty years after first seeing Fawlty Towers as a kid I still laugh as hard and as often. And his Monty Python stuff is like The Beatles of comedy.
Never forget this.
I agree. Unfortunately the press is also used as a political weapon to split opinion or opposition. The news should always be available without opinion .
John Cleese could of made a heap of stuff about brexit failure, like ocelot noses never caught on 🤪
probably cos he's pro brexit
Lovely
As soon as someone says that disagree with James you can see the disgust in his face