I think the one thing people don't realize is the amount of effort it takes from the owners to support the leg before and after surgery. I had bought a harness and supported 80% of my Bichon's weight as we walked around the neighborhood. It was rough... but I didn't want him hurting the left worse or ruining the surgery. After three months (I can't quite remember but might have been a couple weeks later than that) I finally let him support himself 100% but was still cautious when walking him around. 10 months later and he's doing great but the other leg has shown indication of possible problems. For now, fingers crossed we don't have to go through that again. It's not fun, but a few months after, it's all a distant memory!
My 4 month old lab needed Bilateral (both legs) TPLO surgery. We had to wait until he turn 1 yr old before he could have surgery. It cost us $6000!!! But we loved him and had no choice. He is perfect now!!❤️
My beautiful girl did her left cruciate 4 years ago and now has done the other one, we thought we were so clever getting past that two year period. She is in recovery phase now but it is tougher to keep her still this time, she misses her morning walks and afternoon doggie park play. Looking hard for stimulating calm activities for her.
Our Saluki x broke his rh rear cruciate 3 weeks ago. The dog is a very lean & fit 9 year old & the vet offered three options a relatively new technique Vetlig replacement artificial ligament done either open surgery or Arthroscopy, Tplo or lateral suture. His opinion was that the vetlig was the way to go because if it goes wrong you have a plan be & can go to one of the other operations & its good to have a backup! Our dog had the op done keyhole surgery 6 days ago & is already weightbearing on it & in little apparent pain. It is literally amazing to see the improvement day by day. He is resticted in a pen for 2 weeks with toilet walks only & will be lead walks only for 4 months after that. He is a lucky dog to have a vet offering this locally. Cost comparable to tplo but far less drastic & invasive & with much faster recovery.
Hey hope u still see this... gota 2yr old gold lab mix, she's tall lanky can see all her muscle fibers she got neutered about 4months ago, and now She toar or partial tore her rear Cruciate.. it's going on 8-9 weeks since first signs ( why cant they do an mri and tell us the extent of the tear). The Dr just offered meds, no brace use needed, and offered surgery 2 days later. Now she's healing possibly... I'm massaging the area, doing a few shorter walks, and giving vitamins... Used a brace a few weeks, she didn't like it but i kept it on there tight and now were back to regular walks wwithout it, but end of the day she'll sometimes show she has lameness and toe taps that foot..? What's thoughts on time-line for braces and surgeries?? TPLO that's what is being offered here $6-8K, thankyou Doc, thanks guys ❤
Okay. Just found you. And first of all, you're really funny. Made it all the more enjoyable to learn what we did. And your list of breeds more prone to this injury make perfect sense, as we have a pit bull/rottweiler/german shepherd mix who has recently been diagnosed with this. He's 110 pounds (very trim, though) and almost 7 years old. I hope we can make things better for him. We went to a new vet for a second opinion (which we really fell in love with this new vet). The old vet had heavily inferred that if our dog needed the surgery and we couldn't afford it, then it was time to put him down. When the new vet told us the official news that his ligament was torn, (after our dog had his first xrays for this condition), I was holding back a flood of tears, and she asked why I was so upset. I thought he had to be put down. I didn't know there were ways to make this work while we saved the money for the surgery. SO long post short (too late, sorry), we're very grateful for our new vet and for vets like you who help us learn more.
Please see my response to Wendy above who asked the same. I healed my dog using a brace under a dog homeopath guidance and veterinarian supervision (who first recommended surgery as the only option and was amazed and asked me for the brace information later).
My dog tore both of her cruciate ligaments in her knees in hind legs. Within 1 or 2 weeks of each other. She just had her first surgery( left hind leg) Monday... hearing what you said in this video made everything make so much more sense now. Very informative video. Thank you. I subscribed 🩷😊
Without a doubt, this is the most enjoyable information I've received on cruciate tears. You've got another subscriber - and a question: what about braces and which, if any, would you recommend? We have a super fit 8-yr old standard poodle, not overweight, neutered at 12 months, runs, or, ran (sigh), with my husband 5 miles every other day since he was two, with a nice long walk in the woods on alternate days. Thank you, Dr. Andy, de Cone of Shame.
My dog used the Posh brace. Very good quality, they educate you on how to do conservative management and they have very good customer service. It is not the cheapest, my insurance covered (as long as the vet writes it on the note) it really supports the knee. My dog (70 lbs at ideal weight) had to use it for walks or more intense activities later in his recovery path, not for inside the house, calm time. I met another dog owner who took the surgery route because "braces don't work" and he said he used a flimsy brace for three weeks. Scar tissue takes a year to heal completely, obviously three weeks of bad quality brace wasn't enough. I'll leave you their website. I have no affiliation with Posh, except that after intense research and healing my dog, I became a satisfied customer. www.poshdogkneebrace.com
Question-my vet said my lab (mixed breed) has a partial tear but said no surgery till there is a full tear. Sounds like I should get a second opinion according to this. Thoughts?
So there's the mention of regular vet visits to catch this "early" so you can prevent it from completely tearing. But what is it you are supposed to do? If the dog is not overweight, and is not a "weekend warrior", what prevention can be done? I haven't heard of any. My dog is definitely not overweight, and is a working dog guarding livestock so his activity level is constant, and well above the average house pet. But he has injured one of his stifles, and these surgeries are absolutely not an option for this kind of dog. He could no more be kept quiet in a crate for 12 weeks afterward than a Thoroughbred racehorse could be kept in a sling and a crush for 12 weeks to fix a broken hind leg.
Hear you on that -- we've been through 2 of these situations. Check out RunAgainRover on YT. They are new and have uploaded videos that are helpful. Maybe for you too. Here's their channel. ua-cam.com/channels/cEJDn4I-54Kry0oHBAvuTQ.htmlvideos
@@MedicaBruja We've fed ours Missing Link all her life, and she is in GREAT shape. Extremely active, just had CCL surgery on her right back leg and recovered amazingly fast. She's 10 1/2 years old and there are people at the dog park that don't believe me when I tell them that. I swear by that stuff, I will feed it to every dog I own from now on. Wish I would have known about it when I had my wolf-dog. Had to put her down at 13 because of hip dysplasia. I know I could have gotten 5 more years with her if I had known about this stuff.
My 7 yrear old Kelpi girl Miss Zaide had Cruciate surgery yesterday and I am on a learning curve. With this C-19, Wu19 or what ever you choice, has caused LIMITED contact and conversation with my vet. Honestly I went into this surgery with blinders on. The vet and the office did their BEST to communicate with me/us (my husband too) but it was done over the PHONE and some print out information and instructions. We saw no ex-rays and did not have that personal touch. 100% I trust my vet and the office. This video is helping me understand what I should have know and am now learning.
There is such a thing as a phone and a computer so shame on your vet for using ko feed as an excuse for not communicating. The way veterinarians went psycho over that contagion was strange
I have just adopted a 38 kg 1 yr Bull Arab x Red Heeler (large Australian breed) & have found out he has mild hip dysplasia & Bilateral Cruciate Disease (He was neutered at nine weeks) His growth plates are still closing. He still loves to run & play but his back legs go everywhere when excited & sometimes resemble a bucking bull. I have been told he needs staged TPLO's costing around $600aus EACH LEG. I am heartbroken & conflicted on what to do.
FYI Pet Insrance covers only $2600 for crucial ligament injury in Australia. I was still out of pocket $3,000.00 + physio which isnt covered. Premium is $800 year for comprehensive for a 7 year old schitzu x maltese. I have had insurance for 7 years and never made a claim until now. I figure when she has her other one done i would have paid $6500 in premiums and would have been reimbursed $5200. Not sure if insrance is worth it?????
I live in the USA and some insurances cover certain amount a year, others certain amount per condition, etc. I picked an insurance that covers a percentage (I picked 80%) with a yearly deductible (that I picked as well). I have Healthy Paws and pay about $50 USD a month with 80% coverage and a $250 deductible a year.
I would have liked to have heard something a little more proactive about how to prevent CCL injuries. It's great to say "keep the weight off", but my dog, who just had a tear, is very lean and, before the injury, I would take her out every day to chase a ball and run. So, now that she's had the tear, I'm guessing no more ball chasing. But how much should I walk her? How often?
Towards the beginning of the video he laid out all of the potential predisposing factors that could contribute to a CCL tear. While weight is an important factor, it isn't the only factor. Sometimes they just happen. Blame humankind for selecting poor genetics in our dog breeds.
My gorgeous Patterdale terrier torn his cruciate ligament from chasing balls, I was so uneducated on not over throwing the ball! He loved chasing the ball but no more fun now 😢
My 2 year old German shepherded husky had 2 knee surgeries in 6 months. Left knee shattered after the tare In December 2020. May 2021 she tore the left CCL. She’s now 100% 🤘🏽
Hello Dr. Roark, I have a pitbull only a year old, very lean, walks frequently and exercises daily. He's been limping and putting no pressure on his back right leg any suggestions?
We are getting ready to go thru this with our pittie. She is a Staffordshire terrier. She's an amazing pup. She's helped me thru more than anyone knows and now I'm struggling to help her. We originally thought it was an issue with her hip. After x-rays our vet diagnosed her with dysplasia. So we we're treating her for that. One day she just stopped eating, walking, she acted sick. Another trip to the vet. We we're given referral to OSU veterinary clinic. After having her put to sleep to do more x-rays we learned it wasn't the dysplasia after all. She has a cruciate ligament tear. There's alot of fluid on her knee. So now to treat for that. We put her on a pain pill, along with more anti inflammatory and joint supplements. We ordered a knee brace which was a massive fail. She wouldn't even stand up with it on. Beings she is and has been in pain for so long she's become very scared of people, pets, and places. So, osu wanted us to ha e her attend some training courses to help with the kennel stage after surgery and to set a medication regimen for prior to surgery. But here's our biggest hurdle right now. After many trips to the vets, after all the x-rays, blood work and testing so far it has cost us $2700. Not to mention the medication is about $100 a month. I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas on how we can get help. We tried getting insurance for her. But it's pre-existing at this point and they won't take her. We have set up a go-fund me but in 2 months it's only earned $200. I have set up donation jars at my work. I have applied for grants but noone seems to have the funds. I have applied for care credit and got denied due to lack of credit. I have been recently reaching out to pit advocates and Facebook pages. Emails, websites. I spend 2 hours a day just researching and searching and can't find anyone to help her. The surgery is estimated at $3600 . I have almost half of it. She needs the surgery done as soon as possible. The only thing holding us back are the funds. Do you or does anyone know of any place that I can turn to for help? I'm not asking for a handout. I'm asking for help. Even if I could borrow and pay back over a couple months. She won't make it much longer thru the pain she is in. And she's hurting because now I can't afford the surgery. If anyone has any ideas on what I could possibly do please feel free to share them. I'm open minded and will accept all the support and suggestions or advice anyone wants to put out there for us. Thank you so much for whoever read this. That alone means something. Most don't take the time to hear our story. I saved this girl when she was a baby. And now I can't. She's the reason I'm alive today, and I can't return that favor. I need to be there for her. She depends on me. 😢 For anyone interested I will post the link to her gofundme me page. There's proof of all we've done there. All of her updates and our sad and painful journey. gofundme.com/helpskybeapuppyagain
Hi Janofarc, you probably won't be able to get insurance that will cover torn acl's if they are pre-existing. One I know of, PetPlan, required a vet check prior to covering my dogs, specifically acl's.
I have Healthy Paws and covers ACL everything (in my case I did conservative management with bracing but they cover the surgery too if I had picked that route -never!-) but like Wendy mentioned, it wasn't present at the physical exam done when I enrolled. They don't cover pre-existing conditions. My previous dog had Trupanion, same thing, no pre-existing conditions covered.
You're awesome. I have a female Boxer Staffordshire. What should I do at home while waiting for an appointment? Cool bath, natural anti inflammatory or a way to stabilize the leg? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thank you!
Ice the joint (cold pack is ideal, not ice directly on the leg as we don't want to damage the skin with direct intense cold). Strict rest is key. Don't let her run around and further inflame anything. Make sure NOT to give any anti-inflammatory meds for people (no advil, alleve, etc). Good luck!
My dog tore his ACL and it required surgery. At 5 weeks there I took him in for x-rays and the bone only has a callus on one side. The vet was kinda snarky and had no suggestions. I keep him kenneled at night we don't let him out unsupervised. After 5 weeks the bone is only healing on one side. I wonder if a walking splint might be the answer?
How did you make out with your pup? We've been through this twice! This channel, RunAgainRover here on YT helped a lot! Here it is. Maybe you can find out too. I subscribed to get notice too. Good luck! ua-cam.com/channels/cEJDn4I-54Kry0oHBAvuTQ.htmlvideos
My 6 yr old 10 lb morkie is having this surgery next week. I’m dreading putting her through this. What are your thoughts on one of those wheelchairs to take the weight off her hind leg while she recuperates? I imagine lots of Physio involved at home?
I hope your pup is okay. Rosie recuperated like a champ. Limped for about 4-5 weeks. I think she was so used to elevating her 4th leg she wasn’t sure she could put it down. Slowly she started to walk normally. It’s been almost 5 months and she’s good as new. May sound silly but I got her a stroller to take her on longer walks as she was limited to 5 min walks post surgery. Wishing your pup a speedy recovery!
Going to the vet tomorrow morning. Thank you for this video. I'm worried and it helped educate me. I'm so nervous fir my dog. I hope he doesn't need surgery. He is 12.5 pounds.
Literally my boy just did this. He's not over weight, not old he's only a year and a half old, and he's an indoor home dog. There's no "early detection" he went outside to go to the bathroom was walking around, screamed and boom 4k surgery!!
@@MarisolMiramontess its been a horrible process. Hes doing better day by day but hes only a year and a half old so keeping him locked in a crate is killing me. But other than that everything else has gone well
Yes, but it takes a year. Look up "conservative management" (for ACL injury) and read all you can. Also, look up for complications of ACL surgery. H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E I did conservative management for my dog.
Im wondering the same. I think it depends if its a full tear or partial? My chihuahua just had a full cruciate ligament tear & im curious how your dog ended up. Did u get surgery and if not, did your dog heal? I dont trust vets because they push things to make money. Thanks
My dog had a tplo surgery 2 years ago and over the past few weeks has been hesitant to put her other foot down. I have a horrible feeling she is going to need the other leg doing at some point, she's an 8 year old Staffordshire and was neutered early as she was from a shelter. Poor girl
Trust me just take her swimming for swimming 45 minutes 2 times a week for two months and she will be running a horse. She will be favoring injured leg after swimming but don't worry keep continuing,
If you look up "complications of ACL, or TPLO, (or any specific) surgery" you would be able to read a cascade of complications right out of a nightmare. Look up "conservative management" and stick to it for a year. It works. My dog did it, and while he hasn't been healed for a long time (adopted last year with the injury), I know other dogs who have been healed this way, didn't have the other knee injured (as always happens with surgery), and of course, didn't have any of the complications of the surgery. My dog has insurance that covered the $4,000 USD surgery, I still chose the safest path.
Look up complications for literally any procedure and I guarantee you would find a litany of potential poor outcomes. While you're at it you might also look up complications of not performing surgery. I always tell people to put themselves in their pet's position. If it were you who were diagnosed with an ACL tear I would hope you wouldn't tell your doctor, "Nah doc, I don't need the surgery. I'm just going to hobble around on crutches for a year in discomfort until my knee forms enough scar tissue to be relatively supported."
Be careful. A tear or partial tear will wreak havoc in the knee joint on the cartilage and with arthritis. If that damage happens it is too late to get a great result with TPLO. Our dog had full tear on one leg and partial tear on the other. We did bilateral TPLO after I tried 8 weeks of conservative management. After research, you will find that the surgeon's skill and experience is the major variable in ensuring a good outcome. Our surgeon does five a week - 20 years experience with this surgery.
Unfortunately my dog is about 16 pounds . She loves to jump on and off high furniture. And she jumped off the bed which is high . And she tore it. It’s not even common in her breed nor size . She’s a Maltese poodle mix . She just loves to jump
Hey how is your dog now? I have a poodle she’s the same love to jump on bed and on couch. She’s limping on right leg and vet thinks partial acl injury? He gave meds but it doesn’t seem to be getting better. I don’t know what to do. I put cone on her but she still tries to jump. Did you do surgery for your dog or she got better?
Hi there, thanks for the helpful video, my dog otis has a torn acl, : ( he is a 6 year old pit lab mix. His vet said he thinks this has happened before as well, and healed up, and now happened again. I remember when it happened a couple years ago, we thought he just pulled a muscle because he healed quickly. Anyway, just had a question, his vet said surgery isn't a huge reccomendation yet, and my dog is so finicky about anything being on his body, im worried if i spend 800 dollars on a brace he will just thrash around until it falls off. I was wondering if it would be okay if I added a little support to his leg with an ace bandage? He wouldn't try taking that off, he likes those for some reason lol. Thanks in advance! - Amanda
hi, I just found this vlog. I now it's a little late, but what did you decide to do? I hope he's well. My 8 year old 100# Lab just developed what looks like a ccl injury. There'll be no surgery for him though. Can't afford it, so I'm just gonna treat him with therapy, which will include: daily warm and cold compresses, swimming in the pond, slow walks and a daily dose of joint supplements. I will also try using ace bandages for some support as well. I know he'll never be 100% again, which saddens me very much, but it is what it is.
@@joelc7476 hey there Joel, I'm sorry to hear about your pup. I know exactly the same feeling, it's a bummer when it's time for them to slow down. I never ended up doing the ace bandage because I could never find any information on if it was okay or not, and I wasn't sure if it would be harmful to him or helpful. He is doing well now, although I have been told by his vet to never let him off his leash to run again. Which made me sad. He said all it would take is running the wrong way and he could rip it right back open. He is on meds called carprofen which is 58.00 every 2-3 months at the vet. And "cosequin" you can get at any pet store. Those help him really well. I also give him a massage behind his knee area a couple times per week which he likes alot! Lol. Yeah mainly just keep your pup away from running and JUMPING. We built stairs for him to get up to our bed (he sleeps with us lol) if your guy is allowed on the furniture you should probably do the same. He gets on the couch okay, but the bed is too high. Anyway, yeah, just minimal excersize! Let him be lazy, but not stagnant. Hope this helped a little. My guy healed 2 times without surgery, and he could barely walk, so hopefully yours will too! It takes time though! I'll be prayin for yall! Take care!
@@joelc7476 There is a brace sold in pairs called “NeoAlley” it’s like scuba material attached with Velcro It was very helpful to mine, but it’s just a band aide. No way my pup would wear a brace with a bar, cast…she’s just too small….I hope this reaches you and helps. I’m at a loss.
My dog torn her right CCL back in Feb. We did RED LIGHT treatments at home.She is doing GREAT! DO NOT be forced into surgery! Most dogs can recover without surgery. Please read more about this at tiggerpoz.com.
Jenny Wilkins hello My 6 year old pittie.has this issue and the vet is telling me surgery. But when I asked when she see a squirrel she runs like a bat out of hell ! I was told she is blocking the pain out I said ok. But if it’s truly torn she shouldn’t even be able to run. She didn’t have an answer for that. I’m not here just to bash vets! But couldn’t it be more like a sprain of sorts ? I mentioned a brace and she just bashed it!!! So to sum it up I’m ordering a custom brace and going to rest her and see where it goes.
@@Jerzeyguy yes, and...we have a pittie too. A 4 year old. He's torn both CCLs and even so, before he got his surgery he chased squirrrels squirrels, REGARDLESS! oy. I subscribed to this channel- it helped out a lot. RunAgainRover. ua-cam.com/channels/cEJDn4I-54Kry0oHBAvuTQ.htmlvideos
@@Jerzeyguy how is your dog? Cause mine is the same! I’m worried for surgery cause she is 11 year old Pitbull. But she’s active does better, runs and re injured.
My Rottweiler has just torn her cruciate ligament, we got a different vet (a last minute visit to the vets since she is sick so) who just dismissed it saying she’s a 4 year old rotty of course she will get arthritis so don’t worry, we knew it wasn’t but 2 weeks later she’s torn it and needs surgery
Anyone have to get their dog surgery due to a cruciate ligament injury? My Australian cattle puppy doesn’t have a tear but vet thinks she will need surgery because she’s had 2 injuries in just 5 months of age. She’s doing much better but on pain med so it’s probably just masking her pain
I'm just glad Cone Of Shame is back. It's been too long. Can you guys do a video on the stupid claim that vaccinating your pet can make your pet autistic? Yes, the anti-vaxxer wackjobs now want people to not vaccinate dogs and cats for things like rabies. *sighs* Also hope to see another round of "Bad Pet Advice Tweets."
Sadly people are believing it just like they believed it with children. Despite the mounds of evidence that shows vaccines do NOT cause Autism. And in fact many children are dying from bleeding in the brain because parents are now refusing vitamin K shots when their children are born. So just like with the return of measles, expect rabies to make a huge comeback.
Jami, thanks for the kind words!! It is really good to be making videos for the channel again. Honestly, I had forgotten how much I enjoy it. Vaccines would be a great topic to cover. Thanks for the idea!
It's always such a pleasure to watch you, Dr. Roark. If it wasn't for the fact I live in California I'd would be honored to have you as my vet for my pet.
The problem is not so much giving vaccines to dogs/children as is the additives (mercury and aluminum) and the "over" vaccinations. Other than Puppy and booster vaccines, titer testing should be done and vaccinate as needed. Watch Dr. John Bergman on vaccination of children: ua-cam.com/video/S8ixbGlHTTI/v-deo.html
My dog is two days out of surgery she had a ruptured ccl and my regular vets did a check and said they can't feel any issues,just gave me metacam and said keep her activity down, she is a three year old staffy and the medication did nothing. I took her to a different vets who after about 2 minutes gave a prognosis of ruptured ccl ligament two days later she was in surgery, if you are not happy with your vets get a second opinion, I was shown the xrays of both legs and told that during surgery it was found that about a quarter of the ccl was still hanging on for dear life, she had a lateral suture repair and was told that she should recover well as the ccl was still trying to stabilize the joint, pets at home are now only allowed to administer booster shots for my two girls and I have lost all faith with the company who by the way quoted £350-450 for xrays, the xrays cost £86 at the other vets and the surgery meds and aftercare came to under £1500. Would have been closer to £3200 at pets at home, when it comes to vets (if in doubt swap em out).
@@barbaracunningham8902I'm pleased to say she has recovered very well, in fact if I didn't know she had surgery I wouldn't even be able to tell, after about 3-4 months she was getting back to full stability, after six months she became a tasmanian devil and was back to her crazy self, getting a second opinion was the best decision I made and it's the last time I trust the subway and mc Donald's of vets that are just franchises, thanks for inquiring.
"Serious business" as in $$$ Vets don't even need to check. It's so common it is a default diagnosis. Any limp is a ccl. Just slice and dice and get paid! Isn't vet "science (business)" fantastic.
It does not take research to hypothesize/know that de-sexing and messing up bone, joint and ligament growth and health is BAD. Do not spay or neuter your dog. Even waiting for several years, de-sexing is the cause of obesity in pet dogs and that puts great strain on the knees and other joints. Many de-sexed dogs gain wait despite the owner cutting way back on their food. And, understand that cutting the rations by 50% cuts the nutrients by 50% and the deficiencies prevent the body from efficient repair of the tissues that has to happen continuously. Kibble fed dogs are at great risk for many health problems.
Ponie3 Plays my yorkie hopped in my lap and when she hopped down, her leg got stuck in my ear buds, and even now ,my family blames me and I would just cry till I fell asleep
Mine too, jumping off the bed like she has 10000 other times I told her Nooooooo…..I had a feeling I’ve got to give it to her…..no yelping! Unless you count mine! 😭
I'm so sorry, Steve. Dogs can heal from this type of injuries without surgery. For your next dog, look up "conservative management for ACL injuries" and read all you can. My crazy American Pitbull Terrier is healed now. No butchering and no thousands of dollars to the vet. My dog has insurance, so my decision was not made for financial reasons. Look up "complications of ACL surgery" or "complications of TPLO surgery" or any other surgery to repair this, and get ready for a shower of bad news, from the other knee blowing in a year (and that WILL happen because they change the movement dynamics), to cancer, autoimmune disease, and long, scary etcetera.
@@MedicaBruja omg this scares me how did your pit heal? Mine hurt hers too about 2 months ago she was starting to do better then she chased a cat and now she’s holding her leg up again 🥹
I was very interested in watching this video but really can’t stand the yelling at the beginning…..I stopped listening ….. your information may be the very best but the loud opening is a big turn off. Humor is good/fine but loud/screaming….just a turnoff. If you could re-record it may reach more listeners that really need JT get your message….I’m not hyper sensitive but a concerned pet owner is probably upset and the beginning of your video made me want to keep moving ti other doctor….I’m sure your an excellent vet
Have a nine month old Saluki-Malinois mix, 35 lbs, was super-loose and lean, super athletic - and sadly cried out in pain 8 days ago during puppy play group - hasn't wanted to put hind right leg down since - still sits square - we iced knee and applied moist heat to groin first few days - knee doesn't look swollen - had x-rays which only ruled out broken bones (feel like we were rolled in that scenario) and were inconclusive for knee ligament damage or tear - we're of course scared and sad over this injury to such a young dog with so much energy. We're seeing another vet for a second opinion and have sedated x-rays scheduled next Wednesday to get angles on the knee which should reveal knee ligament damage/tear if it exists. Technically we can't afford surgery (or even these sedated x-rays) but I guess anyone who has good enough credit to accumulate debt can 'technically' afford anything :/ What questions should we be asking these veterinary professionals? Could this be something other than a knee or severe groin pull? Any thoughts appreciated, Thank you.
Hello, it's a year after your dogs injury.... Is their leg better? My pup tore her CL end of November so about 6 weeks ago, she still walking lame and lifting her leg but does walk on it a few steps... I'm thinking of getting a brace to support it... Hope ur dog fully recovered
I think the one thing people don't realize is the amount of effort it takes from the owners to support the leg before and after surgery. I had bought a harness and supported 80% of my Bichon's weight as we walked around the neighborhood. It was rough... but I didn't want him hurting the left worse or ruining the surgery. After three months (I can't quite remember but might have been a couple weeks later than that) I finally let him support himself 100% but was still cautious when walking him around. 10 months later and he's doing great but the other leg has shown indication of possible problems. For now, fingers crossed we don't have to go through that again. It's not fun, but a few months after, it's all a distant memory!
My 4 month old lab needed Bilateral (both legs) TPLO surgery. We had to wait until he turn 1 yr old before he could have surgery. It cost us $6000!!! But we loved him and had no choice. He is perfect now!!❤️
My beautiful girl did her left cruciate 4 years ago and now has done the other one, we thought we were so clever getting past that two year period. She is in recovery phase now but it is tougher to keep her still this time, she misses her morning walks and afternoon doggie park play. Looking hard for stimulating calm activities for her.
How did it go?
Our Saluki x broke his rh rear cruciate 3 weeks ago. The dog is a very lean & fit 9 year old & the vet offered three options a relatively new technique Vetlig replacement artificial ligament done either open surgery or Arthroscopy, Tplo or lateral suture.
His opinion was that the vetlig was the way to go because if it goes wrong you have a plan be & can go to one of the other operations & its good to have a backup!
Our dog had the op done keyhole surgery 6 days ago & is already weightbearing on it & in little apparent pain. It is literally amazing to see the improvement day by day. He is resticted in a pen for 2 weeks with toilet walks only & will be lead walks only for 4 months after that.
He is a lucky dog to have a vet offering this locally. Cost comparable to tplo but far less drastic & invasive & with much faster recovery.
Hey hope u still see this... gota 2yr old gold lab mix, she's tall lanky can see all her muscle fibers she got neutered about 4months ago, and now She toar or partial tore her rear Cruciate.. it's going on 8-9 weeks since first signs ( why cant they do an mri and tell us the extent of the tear). The Dr just offered meds, no brace use needed, and offered surgery 2 days later. Now she's healing possibly... I'm massaging the area, doing a few shorter walks, and giving vitamins... Used a brace a few weeks, she didn't like it but i kept it on there tight and now were back to regular walks wwithout it, but end of the day she'll sometimes show she has lameness and toe taps that foot..?
What's thoughts on time-line for braces and surgeries?? TPLO that's what is being offered here $6-8K, thankyou Doc, thanks guys ❤
Okay. Just found you. And first of all, you're really funny. Made it all the more enjoyable to learn what we did.
And your list of breeds more prone to this injury make perfect sense, as we have a pit bull/rottweiler/german shepherd mix who has recently been diagnosed with this. He's 110 pounds (very trim, though) and almost 7 years old. I hope we can make things better for him.
We went to a new vet for a second opinion (which we really fell in love with this new vet). The old vet had heavily inferred that if our dog needed the surgery and we couldn't afford it, then it was time to put him down. When the new vet told us the official news that his ligament was torn, (after our dog had his first xrays for this condition), I was holding back a flood of tears, and she asked why I was so upset. I thought he had to be put down. I didn't know there were ways to make this work while we saved the money for the surgery.
SO long post short (too late, sorry), we're very grateful for our new vet and for vets like you who help us learn more.
Do hock braces work in any way?
Thanks for your valuable time
Steven Cole
Thank you … very helpful.
I hope you are still replying to comments on this video! What are your thoughts on bracing for cruciate ligaments?
Please see my response to Wendy above who asked the same. I healed my dog using a brace under a dog homeopath guidance and veterinarian supervision (who first recommended surgery as the only option and was amazed and asked me for the brace information later).
What’s the brace you are using?
@@MedicaBruja Your reply to Wendy appears to have been removed. Can you please reply here regarding the brace and homepathic treatment?
Do braces help? If so, which do you recommend?
This is not a question that can be answered through a comment thread.
My dog tore both of her cruciate ligaments in her knees in hind legs. Within 1 or 2 weeks of each other. She just had her first surgery( left hind leg) Monday... hearing what you said in this video made everything make so much more sense now. Very informative video. Thank you. I subscribed 🩷😊
And if anyone is curious she is a Pitbull mix with Lab. 3years old.
Without a doubt, this is the most enjoyable information I've received on cruciate tears. You've got another subscriber - and a question: what about braces and which, if any, would you recommend? We have a super fit 8-yr old standard poodle, not overweight, neutered at 12 months, runs, or, ran (sigh), with my husband 5 miles every other day since he was two, with a nice long walk in the woods on alternate days. Thank you, Dr. Andy, de Cone of Shame.
My dog used the Posh brace. Very good quality, they educate you on how to do conservative management and they have very good customer service. It is not the cheapest, my insurance covered (as long as the vet writes it on the note) it really supports the knee. My dog (70 lbs at ideal weight) had to use it for walks or more intense activities later in his recovery path, not for inside the house, calm time.
I met another dog owner who took the surgery route because "braces don't work" and he said he used a flimsy brace for three weeks. Scar tissue takes a year to heal completely, obviously three weeks of bad quality brace wasn't enough.
I'll leave you their website.
I have no affiliation with Posh, except that after intense research and healing my dog, I became a satisfied customer.
www.poshdogkneebrace.com
Question-my vet said my lab (mixed breed) has a partial tear but said no surgery till there is a full tear. Sounds like I should get a second opinion according to this. Thoughts?
So there's the mention of regular vet visits to catch this "early" so you can prevent it from completely tearing. But what is it you are supposed to do? If the dog is not overweight, and is not a "weekend warrior", what prevention can be done? I haven't heard of any. My dog is definitely not overweight, and is a working dog guarding livestock so his activity level is constant, and well above the average house pet. But he has injured one of his stifles, and these surgeries are absolutely not an option for this kind of dog. He could no more be kept quiet in a crate for 12 weeks afterward than a Thoroughbred racehorse could be kept in a sling and a crush for 12 weeks to fix a broken hind leg.
Hear you on that -- we've been through 2 of these situations. Check out RunAgainRover on YT. They are new and have uploaded videos that are helpful. Maybe for you too. Here's their channel. ua-cam.com/channels/cEJDn4I-54Kry0oHBAvuTQ.htmlvideos
@@LisaByrneMove Thanks, Lisa. I'll definitely check them out!
On the same boat. Not overweight, always active (not as active as yours), and now hurt. 😪
@@MedicaBruja We've fed ours Missing Link all her life, and she is in GREAT shape. Extremely active, just had CCL surgery on her right back leg and recovered amazingly fast. She's 10 1/2 years old and there are people at the dog park that don't believe me when I tell them that. I swear by that stuff, I will feed it to every dog I own from now on. Wish I would have known about it when I had my wolf-dog. Had to put her down at 13 because of hip dysplasia. I know I could have gotten 5 more years with her if I had known about this stuff.
@@dienekes4364 What is CCL?
My 7 yrear old Kelpi girl Miss Zaide had Cruciate surgery yesterday and I am on a learning curve. With this C-19, Wu19 or what ever you choice, has caused LIMITED contact and conversation with my vet. Honestly I went into this surgery with blinders on. The vet and the office did their BEST to communicate with me/us (my husband too) but it was done over the PHONE and some print out information and instructions. We saw no ex-rays and did not have that personal touch. 100% I trust my vet and the office. This video is helping me understand what I should have know and am now learning.
There is such a thing as a phone and a computer so shame on your vet for using ko feed as an excuse for not communicating. The way veterinarians went psycho over that contagion was strange
I have just adopted a 38 kg 1 yr Bull Arab x Red Heeler (large Australian breed) & have found out he has mild hip dysplasia & Bilateral Cruciate Disease (He was neutered at nine weeks) His growth plates are still closing. He still loves to run & play but his back legs go everywhere when excited & sometimes resemble a bucking bull. I have been told he needs staged TPLO's costing around $600aus EACH LEG. I am heartbroken & conflicted on what to do.
Yes! I wasn't sure the show would come back. I'm glad it has
Thank you!! I'm glad to be back to making episodes. I hope to get things back on track for more regular episodes before long.
FYI Pet Insrance covers only $2600 for crucial ligament injury in Australia. I was still out of pocket $3,000.00 + physio which isnt covered. Premium is $800 year for comprehensive for a 7 year old schitzu x maltese. I have had insurance for 7 years and never made a claim until now. I figure when she has her other one done i would have paid $6500 in premiums and would have been reimbursed $5200. Not sure if insrance is worth it?????
The discussion Channel Insurance isn't worth it ! They will use you in many different way to leave your money in their own pocket...
I live in the USA and some insurances cover certain amount a year, others certain amount per condition, etc.
I picked an insurance that covers a percentage (I picked 80%) with a yearly deductible (that I picked as well).
I have Healthy Paws and pay about $50 USD a month with 80% coverage and a $250 deductible a year.
I would have liked to have heard something a little more proactive about how to prevent CCL injuries. It's great to say "keep the weight off", but my dog, who just had a tear, is very lean and, before the injury, I would take her out every day to chase a ball and run. So, now that she's had the tear, I'm guessing no more ball chasing. But how much should I walk her? How often?
Towards the beginning of the video he laid out all of the potential predisposing factors that could contribute to a CCL tear. While weight is an important factor, it isn't the only factor. Sometimes they just happen. Blame humankind for selecting poor genetics in our dog breeds.
My gorgeous Patterdale terrier torn his cruciate ligament from chasing balls, I was so uneducated on not over throwing the ball! He loved chasing the ball but no more fun now 😢
Going through it now. Can't see a vet till the end of the month. So we are (both) treating with Mary Jane😳
My vet wants 6500 for the surgery looking for an alternative 😩
My dog has just had his surgery. How is your dog now?
@@audreyjohnston1386 using her leg well. Just worked up to 3 mile walks!
@@gusgus8134 did she have surgery?
My 2 year old German shepherded husky had 2 knee surgeries in 6 months. Left knee shattered after the tare In December 2020. May 2021 she tore the left CCL. She’s now 100% 🤘🏽
Hello Dr. Roark, I have a pitbull only a year old, very lean, walks frequently and exercises daily. He's been limping and putting no pressure on his back right leg any suggestions?
We are getting ready to go thru this with our pittie. She is a Staffordshire terrier. She's an amazing pup. She's helped me thru more than anyone knows and now I'm struggling to help her. We originally thought it was an issue with her hip. After x-rays our vet diagnosed her with dysplasia. So we we're treating her for that. One day she just stopped eating, walking, she acted sick. Another trip to the vet. We we're given referral to OSU veterinary clinic. After having her put to sleep to do more x-rays we learned it wasn't the dysplasia after all. She has a cruciate ligament tear. There's alot of fluid on her knee. So now to treat for that. We put her on a pain pill, along with more anti inflammatory and joint supplements. We ordered a knee brace which was a massive fail. She wouldn't even stand up with it on. Beings she is and has been in pain for so long she's become very scared of people, pets, and places. So, osu wanted us to ha e her attend some training courses to help with the kennel stage after surgery and to set a medication regimen for prior to surgery. But here's our biggest hurdle right now. After many trips to the vets, after all the x-rays, blood work and testing so far it has cost us $2700. Not to mention the medication is about $100 a month. I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas on how we can get help. We tried getting insurance for her. But it's pre-existing at this point and they won't take her. We have set up a go-fund me but in 2 months it's only earned $200. I have set up donation jars at my work. I have applied for grants but noone seems to have the funds. I have applied for care credit and got denied due to lack of credit. I have been recently reaching out to pit advocates and Facebook pages. Emails, websites. I spend 2 hours a day just researching and searching and can't find anyone to help her. The surgery is estimated at $3600 . I have almost half of it. She needs the surgery done as soon as possible. The only thing holding us back are the funds. Do you or does anyone know of any place that I can turn to for help? I'm not asking for a handout. I'm asking for help. Even if I could borrow and pay back over a couple months. She won't make it much longer thru the pain she is in. And she's hurting because now I can't afford the surgery. If anyone has any ideas on what I could possibly do please feel free to share them. I'm open minded and will accept all the support and suggestions or advice anyone wants to put out there for us. Thank you so much for whoever read this. That alone means something. Most don't take the time to hear our story. I saved this girl when she was a baby. And now I can't. She's the reason I'm alive today, and I can't return that favor. I need to be there for her. She depends on me. 😢 For anyone interested I will post the link to her gofundme me page. There's proof of all we've done there. All of her updates and our sad and painful journey.
gofundme.com/helpskybeapuppyagain
You made Me cry ! How did everything go? I hope some good news!
Thank you for this info, what pet insurance would you reccommend or suggest, my 12 yr old , overweight, beagle has 1 and possibly both acl toren
Hi Janofarc, you probably won't be able to get insurance that will cover torn acl's if they are pre-existing. One I know of, PetPlan, required a vet check prior to covering my dogs, specifically acl's.
I have Healthy Paws and covers ACL everything (in my case I did conservative management with bracing but they cover the surgery too if I had picked that route -never!-) but like Wendy mentioned, it wasn't present at the physical exam done when I enrolled. They don't cover pre-existing conditions. My previous dog had Trupanion, same thing, no pre-existing conditions covered.
Does legs sweels??
Would have been a better video if you included a photo or diagram showing which joint you are talking about.
my dog ripped her cct from an accident. what to do in this case?
You're awesome. I have a female Boxer Staffordshire. What should I do at home while waiting for an appointment? Cool bath, natural anti inflammatory or a way to stabilize the leg? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thank you!
Ice the joint (cold pack is ideal, not ice directly on the leg as we don't want to damage the skin with direct intense cold). Strict rest is key. Don't let her run around and further inflame anything. Make sure NOT to give any anti-inflammatory meds for people (no advil, alleve, etc). Good luck!
My dog tore his ACL and it required surgery. At 5 weeks there I took him in for x-rays and the bone only has a callus on one side. The vet was kinda snarky and had no suggestions. I keep him kenneled at night we don't let him out unsupervised. After 5 weeks the bone is only healing on one side. I wonder if a walking splint might be the answer?
How did you make out with your pup? We've been through this twice! This channel, RunAgainRover here on YT helped a lot! Here it is. Maybe you can find out too. I subscribed to get notice too. Good luck! ua-cam.com/channels/cEJDn4I-54Kry0oHBAvuTQ.htmlvideos
My 6 yr old 10 lb morkie is having this surgery next week. I’m dreading putting her through this. What are your thoughts on one of those wheelchairs to take the weight off her hind leg while she recuperates? I imagine lots of Physio involved at home?
Hello how did the surgery go? My chihuahua just got a full cruciate ligament tear and im looking for feedback from people who dealt with it 🙏🏻
I hope your pup is okay. Rosie recuperated like a champ. Limped for about 4-5 weeks. I think she was so used to elevating her 4th leg she wasn’t sure she could put it down. Slowly she started to walk normally. It’s been almost 5 months and she’s good as new. May sound silly but I got her a stroller to take her on longer walks as she was limited to 5 min walks post surgery. Wishing your pup a speedy recovery!
@@lisamariereilly9080 good to hear! thank you so much!
Can ccl be detected with X-rays, since they are soft tissue I’ve heard. Is the suture repair for a nine year old, 38lb whippet viable? -Thank You
This is what I was told.
No, but do the x-rays to make sure is not something else (like cancer).
Going to the vet tomorrow morning. Thank you for this video. I'm worried and it helped educate me. I'm so nervous fir my dog. I hope he doesn't need surgery. He is 12.5 pounds.
How did your dog do? My little dog is 2 days post surgery and its breaking my heart to see him like this :(
Thank you, great info !
I can't afford the surgery for my big baby Rhodesian ridgeback
Literally my boy just did this. He's not over weight, not old he's only a year and a half old, and he's an indoor home dog. There's no "early detection" he went outside to go to the bathroom was walking around, screamed and boom 4k surgery!!
TPLO?
@@lisadillon7301 yes
6k here, with vet assessment and surgery. Does not include physical therapy and medications.
How did your puppy make out?
@@MarisolMiramontess its been a horrible process. Hes doing better day by day but hes only a year and a half old so keeping him locked in a crate is killing me. But other than that everything else has gone well
Is it true that this kind of tear resolves on its own after about three months in a leg brace, lots of rest, and anti-inflamatories in 80% of dogs?
Did you ever find out an answer to your question?
Yes, but it takes a year. Look up "conservative management" (for ACL injury) and read all you can. Also, look up for complications of ACL surgery. H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E
I did conservative management for my dog.
@@kerrioverstreet1776 please see my reply.
@@MedicaBruja where is it?
Im wondering the same. I think it depends if its a full tear or partial? My chihuahua just had a full cruciate ligament tear & im curious how your dog ended up. Did u get surgery and if not, did your dog heal? I dont trust vets because they push things to make money. Thanks
What do you mean dogs don't have careers, what about service dogs? They have a job to do.
My dog had a tplo surgery 2 years ago and over the past few weeks has been hesitant to put her other foot down. I have a horrible feeling she is going to need the other leg doing at some point, she's an 8 year old Staffordshire and was neutered early as she was from a shelter. Poor girl
Trust me just take her swimming for swimming 45 minutes 2 times a week for two months and she will be running a horse. She will be favoring injured leg after swimming but don't worry keep continuing,
If you look up "complications of ACL, or TPLO, (or any specific) surgery" you would be able to read a cascade of complications right out of a nightmare.
Look up "conservative management" and stick to it for a year. It works. My dog did it, and while he hasn't been healed for a long time (adopted last year with the injury), I know other dogs who have been healed this way, didn't have the other knee injured (as always happens with surgery), and of course, didn't have any of the complications of the surgery.
My dog has insurance that covered the $4,000 USD surgery, I still chose the safest path.
Look up complications for literally any procedure and I guarantee you would find a litany of potential poor outcomes. While you're at it you might also look up complications of not performing surgery.
I always tell people to put themselves in their pet's position. If it were you who were diagnosed with an ACL tear I would hope you wouldn't tell your doctor, "Nah doc, I don't need the surgery. I'm just going to hobble around on crutches for a year in discomfort until my knee forms enough scar tissue to be relatively supported."
Be careful. A tear or partial tear will wreak havoc in the knee joint on the cartilage and with arthritis. If that damage happens it is too late to get a great result with TPLO. Our dog had full tear on one leg and partial tear on the other. We did bilateral TPLO after I tried 8 weeks of conservative management. After research, you will find that the surgeon's skill and experience is the major variable in ensuring a good outcome. Our surgeon does five a week - 20 years experience with this surgery.
Such an important problem and great advice. Single biggest take home - prevent your dog getting fat
Unfortunately my dog is about 16 pounds . She loves to jump on and off high furniture. And she jumped off the bed which is high . And she tore it. It’s not even common in her breed nor size . She’s a Maltese poodle mix . She just loves to jump
Hey how is your dog now? I have a poodle she’s the same love to jump on bed and on couch. She’s limping on right leg and vet thinks partial acl injury? He gave meds but it doesn’t seem to be getting better. I don’t know what to do. I put cone on her but she still tries to jump. Did you do surgery for your dog or she got better?
Hi there, thanks for the helpful video, my dog otis has a torn acl, : ( he is a 6 year old pit lab mix. His vet said he thinks this has happened before as well, and healed up, and now happened again. I remember when it happened a couple years ago, we thought he just pulled a muscle because he healed quickly. Anyway, just had a question, his vet said surgery isn't a huge reccomendation yet, and my dog is so finicky about anything being on his body, im worried if i spend 800 dollars on a brace he will just thrash around until it falls off. I was wondering if it would be okay if I added a little support to his leg with an ace bandage? He wouldn't try taking that off, he likes those for some reason lol. Thanks in advance! - Amanda
hi, I just found this vlog. I now it's a little late, but what did you decide to do? I hope he's well. My 8 year old 100# Lab just developed what looks like a ccl injury. There'll be no surgery for him though. Can't afford it, so I'm just gonna treat him with therapy, which will include: daily warm and cold compresses, swimming in the pond, slow walks and a daily dose of joint supplements. I will also try using ace bandages for some support as well. I know he'll never be 100% again, which saddens me very much, but it is what it is.
@@joelc7476 hey there Joel, I'm sorry to hear about your pup. I know exactly the same feeling, it's a bummer when it's time for them to slow down. I never ended up doing the ace bandage because I could never find any information on if it was okay or not, and I wasn't sure if it would be harmful to him or helpful. He is doing well now, although I have been told by his vet to never let him off his leash to run again. Which made me sad. He said all it would take is running the wrong way and he could rip it right back open. He is on meds called carprofen which is 58.00 every 2-3 months at the vet. And "cosequin" you can get at any pet store. Those help him really well. I also give him a massage behind his knee area a couple times per week which he likes alot! Lol. Yeah mainly just keep your pup away from running and JUMPING. We built stairs for him to get up to our bed (he sleeps with us lol) if your guy is allowed on the furniture you should probably do the same. He gets on the couch okay, but the bed is too high. Anyway, yeah, just minimal excersize! Let him be lazy, but not stagnant. Hope this helped a little. My guy healed 2 times without surgery, and he could barely walk, so hopefully yours will too! It takes time though! I'll be prayin for yall! Take care!
@@joelc7476 There is a brace sold in pairs called “NeoAlley” it’s like scuba material attached with Velcro It was very helpful to mine, but it’s just a band aide. No way my pup would wear a brace with a bar, cast…she’s just too small….I hope this reaches you and helps. I’m at a loss.
Welcome back, cone of shame!
Thanks Alyssa! It's great to be back at it! I hope you're well. :-)
Great info brought to you by the Eli Manning of canine orthopedic care! 😂
My dog torn her right CCL back in Feb. We did RED LIGHT treatments at home.She is doing GREAT! DO NOT be forced into surgery! Most dogs can recover without surgery. Please read more about this at tiggerpoz.com.
Yes I know that. But the scar tissue forms regardless of surgery. Surgery isn’t always necessary and people need to know that. Vets want $$$$$
Jenny Wilkins hello
My 6 year old pittie.has this issue and the vet is telling me surgery. But when I asked when she see a squirrel she runs like a bat out of hell !
I was told she is blocking the pain out I said ok. But if it’s truly torn she shouldn’t even be able to run.
She didn’t have an answer for that.
I’m not here just to bash vets!
But couldn’t it be more like a sprain of sorts ?
I mentioned a brace and she just bashed it!!!
So to sum it up
I’m ordering a custom brace and going to rest her and see where it goes.
@Samuel Rodriguez You bet! that is so right. This channel, RunAgainRover, helped us out a LOT! ua-cam.com/channels/cEJDn4I-54Kry0oHBAvuTQ.htmlvideos
@@Jerzeyguy yes, and...we have a pittie too. A 4 year old. He's torn both CCLs and even so, before he got his surgery he chased squirrrels squirrels, REGARDLESS! oy. I subscribed to this channel- it helped out a lot. RunAgainRover. ua-cam.com/channels/cEJDn4I-54Kry0oHBAvuTQ.htmlvideos
@@Jerzeyguy how is your dog? Cause mine is the same! I’m worried for surgery cause she is 11 year old Pitbull. But she’s active does better, runs and re injured.
Yea cone of shame welcome back!
Thank you!
My Rottweiler has just torn her cruciate ligament, we got a different vet (a last minute visit to the vets since she is sick so) who just dismissed it saying she’s a 4 year old rotty of course she will get arthritis so don’t worry, we knew it wasn’t but 2 weeks later she’s torn it and needs surgery
jade gibbo did you get the surgery? My Rottweiler is the same age and needs the surgery too
@@that_90s_chic21 check out the channel RunAgainRover. It helped us, twice! ua-cam.com/channels/cEJDn4I-54Kry0oHBAvuTQ.htmlvideos
Anyone have to get their dog surgery due to a cruciate ligament injury? My Australian cattle puppy doesn’t have a tear but vet thinks she will need surgery because she’s had 2 injuries in just 5 months of age. She’s doing much better but on pain med so it’s probably just masking her pain
I have a 5 year old Maremma, he is booked in for surgery next Tuesday
Just take her for swimming 2 times a week for 2 months, she will favour injured leg after swimming but don't worry she will become alright
I'm just glad Cone Of Shame is back. It's been too long. Can you guys do a video on the stupid claim that vaccinating your pet can make your pet autistic? Yes, the anti-vaxxer wackjobs now want people to not vaccinate dogs and cats for things like rabies. *sighs*
Also hope to see another round of "Bad Pet Advice Tweets."
you can't fix stupid! Hopefully most people see these claims for what they really are
Sadly people are believing it just like they believed it with children. Despite the mounds of evidence that shows vaccines do NOT cause Autism. And in fact many children are dying from bleeding in the brain because parents are now refusing vitamin K shots when their children are born. So just like with the return of measles, expect rabies to make a huge comeback.
Jami, thanks for the kind words!! It is really good to be making videos for the channel again. Honestly, I had forgotten how much I enjoy it. Vaccines would be a great topic to cover. Thanks for the idea!
It's always such a pleasure to watch you, Dr. Roark. If it wasn't for the fact I live in California I'd would be honored to have you as my vet for my pet.
The problem is not so much giving vaccines to dogs/children as is the additives (mercury and aluminum) and the "over" vaccinations. Other than Puppy and booster vaccines, titer testing should be done and vaccinate as needed. Watch Dr. John Bergman on vaccination of children: ua-cam.com/video/S8ixbGlHTTI/v-deo.html
forgot to say that regardless of treatment arthritis is always in the future.
My dog is two days out of surgery she had a ruptured ccl and my regular vets did a check and said they can't feel any issues,just gave me metacam and said keep her activity down, she is a three year old staffy and the medication did nothing. I took her to a different vets who after about 2 minutes gave a prognosis of ruptured ccl ligament two days later she was in surgery, if you are not happy with your vets get a second opinion, I was shown the xrays of both legs and told that during surgery it was found that about a quarter of the ccl was still hanging on for dear life, she had a lateral suture repair and was told that she should recover well as the ccl was still trying to stabilize the joint, pets at home are now only allowed to administer booster shots for my two girls and I have lost all faith with the company who by the way quoted £350-450 for xrays, the xrays cost £86 at the other vets and the surgery meds and aftercare came to under £1500.
Would have been closer to £3200 at pets at home, when it comes to vets (if in doubt swap em out).
Where did you do the operation for your dog ?
family friends vets in Chippenham Slough
@@dtwistrewind7361 how is your dog now?
@@barbaracunningham8902I'm pleased to say she has recovered very well, in fact if I didn't know she had surgery I wouldn't even be able to tell, after about 3-4 months she was getting back to full stability, after six months she became a tasmanian devil and was back to her crazy self, getting a second opinion was the best decision I made and it's the last time I trust the subway and mc Donald's of vets that are just franchises, thanks for inquiring.
"Serious business" as in $$$
Vets don't even need to check. It's so common it is a default diagnosis. Any limp is a ccl. Just slice and dice and get paid!
Isn't vet "science (business)" fantastic.
It does not take research to hypothesize/know that de-sexing and messing up bone, joint and ligament growth and health is BAD. Do not spay or neuter your dog. Even waiting for several years, de-sexing is the cause of obesity in pet dogs and that puts great strain on the knees and other joints. Many de-sexed dogs gain wait despite the owner cutting way back on their food. And, understand that cutting the rations by 50% cuts the nutrients by 50% and the deficiencies prevent the body from efficient repair of the tissues that has to happen continuously. Kibble fed dogs are at great risk for many health problems.
My dog just got this because she jumped off my bunk bed
Ponie3 Plays my yorkie hopped in my lap and when she hopped down, her leg got stuck in my ear buds, and even now ,my family blames me and I would just cry till I fell asleep
Poor puppy... it’s not your fault. Just dumb luck
@@calebspears8180 the ccl is stronger than a set of headphone cables, it's not your fault.
Mine too, jumping off the bed like she has 10000 other times I told her Nooooooo…..I had a feeling I’ve got to give it to her…..no yelping! Unless you count mine! 😭
My dog tore her ACL so I put her down. turns out it wasnt even a life threatening injury?
That sucks, man. Did the vet encourage that decision?
Wtf??
What Vet would do that?
I'm so sorry, Steve.
Dogs can heal from this type of injuries without surgery.
For your next dog, look up "conservative management for ACL injuries" and read all you can.
My crazy American Pitbull Terrier is healed now. No butchering and no thousands of dollars to the vet. My dog has insurance, so my decision was not made for financial reasons. Look up "complications of ACL surgery" or "complications of TPLO surgery" or any other surgery to repair this, and get ready for a shower of bad news, from the other knee blowing in a year (and that WILL happen because they change the movement dynamics), to cancer, autoimmune disease, and long, scary etcetera.
@@MedicaBruja omg this scares me how did your pit heal? Mine hurt hers too about 2 months ago she was starting to do better then she chased a cat and now she’s holding her leg up again 🥹
I was very interested in watching this video but really can’t stand the yelling at the beginning…..I stopped listening ….. your information may be the very best but the loud opening is a big turn off. Humor is good/fine but loud/screaming….just a turnoff. If you could re-record it may reach more listeners that really need JT get your message….I’m not hyper sensitive but a concerned pet owner is probably upset and the beginning of your video made me want to keep moving ti other doctor….I’m sure your an excellent vet
Humor with concerned pet parents is annoying. Bad approach
Have a nine month old Saluki-Malinois mix, 35 lbs, was super-loose and lean, super athletic - and sadly cried out in pain 8 days ago during puppy play group - hasn't wanted to put hind right leg down since - still sits square - we iced knee and applied moist heat to groin first few days - knee doesn't look swollen - had x-rays which only ruled out broken bones (feel like we were rolled in that scenario) and were inconclusive for knee ligament damage or tear - we're of course scared and sad over this injury to such a young dog with so much energy. We're seeing another vet for a second opinion and have sedated x-rays scheduled next Wednesday to get angles on the knee which should reveal knee ligament damage/tear if it exists. Technically we can't afford surgery (or even these sedated x-rays) but I guess anyone who has good enough credit to accumulate debt can 'technically' afford anything :/ What questions should we be asking these veterinary professionals? Could this be something other than a knee or severe groin pull? Any thoughts appreciated, Thank you.
Hello, it's a year after your dogs injury.... Is their leg better? My pup tore her CL end of November so about 6 weeks ago, she still walking lame and lifting her leg but does walk on it a few steps... I'm thinking of getting a brace to support it... Hope ur dog fully recovered