"the academy didn't like this painting because it was 'terribly executed' and 'too romantic'" that painting is one of the most beautiful things I've ever SEEN what
Back then, if things weren’t done in a PRECISE and particular way, the end product was not seen as having any worth at all. It was a very binary art world, dominated by the academy and with a very “our way or the highway” mindset. To even be entered into consideration for whether a piece of art was “beautiful” or not, it had to meet their criteria. If it didn’t, it was discarded and immediately branded as amateurish and trash. And speaking out against that dismissal branded you as an enemy of the academy in equal measure.
Nah he butchered the anatomy pretty bad, you know jackshit about paintings so you wouldn't know.he fucked up the anatomy but its still pretty beautiful
beauty is in the eye of the beholder and art is whatever we make of it, for the standards of said Academy this wasn't crafted flawlessly and that's the reason they didn't approved it...I agree with you, it's extremely beautiful and a classic
@@BBWahoo there are many talented art kids out there like Akiane she started painting at the age of 8 while I started at the age of 14 doing portraits anatomy and nature. People are slowly evolving
i fell in love with cabanel's fallen angel piece the first time i saw it, the attention to detail and the anatomy is amazing, the angel's expression and the history it stems from was definitely an addition to my love for it plus its so aesthetically pleasing. needless to say it really took my breath away.
I felt the exact same way when I first saw it, the painting was a huge inspiration for my style at one point, now it’s formed into something different but a lot of his work really helped in my understanding of anatomy and posing of figures Also, really love your pfp of Venti ^^ I’m Genshin fan myself lol
The fallen angel may be my favourite piece of art out there, the expression on his face is so immersive, it sucks you into the painting and makes you feel for this angel, someone you have no connection to, but cabanel still makes you relate to him, makes him real for the time you're looking at him, its absolutely beautiful!!
I think you summed this up quite well. It's unfortunate that so many 'academic' artists are no longer as well known as they once were, and while I reject any rigid notions of 'this is what art is, and nothing else'; I also understand the importance of craftsmanship, technique, training - but, above all, talent and creativity. I love Cabanel and Bourguereau, but I also love the Symbolists and the Expressionists. Art is whatever moves you - excites, saddens, pleases and especially, challenges.
So true what you wrote. Something that bothers me is some modern "artists" that do not actually make art, not even work... That is a total exageration and abuse of the earned freedom in art.
@@Malik-Ibi This is just my opinion, and should be taken as such, but I think art should be a sort of dialogue between the artist and the viewer. Sometimes, I feel like much modern art is simply the artist talking to him/her self. And that's fine, I suppose, but I would prefer to be engaged by art - not simply nonplussed by it.
@@curiousworld7912 - Bingo! Dialogue is the key word. The onanistic impulses that consumed the production of art in the 50s and onward were boring, unengaging, woefully self-reflective. What calls itself "art" today is too often vapid nonsense. Take the human out of art and what's left is a mere thing.
The fact that the fallen angel is now one of the most famous painting is so great since it was rejected in Cabanel’s life time but is now more famous then some of the art works that were academically accepted back then.
To me it's always kinda looked like that frustrated feeling you would get as a young child when things didn't turn out the way you want, but you know you just simply can't do anything about it.
The lack of autonomy. Every child feels that! Especially when being admonished from a parent like Lucifer being banished from heaven for being an ass. He wasn't even trying to rebel against God (he is now). He wanted to have his own kingdom and be his own god. Like a petulant child, he is frustrated at his lack of autonomy, and he is indignant because he knows he's wrong but has to double down to save face. He has no chance for redemption either so that's the ultimate frustration. He's stuck and doomed.
i wouldn't say i'm into the fine arts much aside from admiring the mind boggling skill these painters have, but the Fallen Angel has always stuck to the back of my mind. the expression is so raw and human. rarely do i see the emotion of "so angry that you cry" depicted in any media, which to me this is depicting first and foremost. the fact that he half hides his face but doesn't use his wings to cover himself, or curl up into a more protected position, gives this such an energy of "i may have lost the battle, but i haven't lost the war". it seems to admit defeat in the moment while not being beaten down for good.
“You may not find these paintings as enthralling as modern art.” Are you kidding? Every single ‘academic’ painting shown in this video is absolutely stunning and beautiful. The realism and detail given to every single person and place in those paintings are amazing and are a demonstration of pure talent. In my humble opinion, all of the older academic paintings are so much more engaging and gorgeous compared to the, again in my opinion, ugly, rushed messes that some modern day art is.
Thanks for uploading this video! Cabanel’s Fallen Angel always reminds me of Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader in ROTS. They look alike and share similar subject matter.
Absolutely! They're both pretty tragic characters filled with bitterness, hate, but also sadness. Thank you for leaving a comment Hugo! It's super appreciated!
In church yesterday, in reading some OT, from Numbers and Joshua, the name Anak is mentioned. He was the father of the race of giants known as the Anakim. Anakin. Skywalker. Fallen angels. Nephilim - the abominations created from the offspring of demons and women. Any way! Thought that was an interesting spin, a deeper spin, into the depths of who Anakin is, or how he got his name, especially since he never knew his father.
I've seen many of these paintings many times online, but never knew who did them. Thanks for the great video and for putting the title and artist names.
I think my favorite part about the piece Fallen Angel is how Cabanel used the expression, pose and imagery combine to tell a story that transcends time. Even if you don’t know the full biblical context, just knowing about fallen angels is enough and the painting does the rest. It masterfully displays all the layered emotions that can only come from a complex, deep personal history. It can play into the idea of the sympathetic villain because seeing the extreme pain and hurt of this character makes us understand why they became so dark. A trope that’s only become more popular since then. For example I see this and I immediately think of Anakin Skywalker. Partially because of the likeness, but I think the story Cabanel was trying to tell lines up well. The dark fallen paragon, who’s rejection by those who are supposed to be the “good guy” almost seems as evil as anything the angel might go on to do. It shows he understood the subject matter and told a story that reached from hundreds of years in his past and still connects with the stories we tell hundreds of years later
One of my favorite paintings! When I come to Montpellier to study, my friend here told me that this painting is at Musée Fabre which is in Montpellier! I was so glad when I heard about it, but due to COVID-19, I still can not visit the museum to see it with my eyes. I hope all these problems will end soon and we'll be able to visit museums again because we really need them. Thanks for the video!
It's really a shame that there are no high-resolution reproductions of this painting online. So many people could benefit from being able to look into the details of this amazing artwork. I envy you for being able to see it in person and have access to these details (once Covid is over). Thanks for the comment!
Funny how the tables have turned, now schools impose the boring modern styles of the 20th century onto students and classical art is the insurgent. I guess people never learn.
I feel like the same thing is happening with cinema. Back in the day gritty realism was new, subversive and exciting, now anything other than that is dismissed as sugary crap when that couldn’t be further from the truth.
I'd caution against calling all 20th century styles "boring" just for the sake of discussion -- I think some pieces definitely have their own value. The work of Escher primarily comes to mind for me.
they don't "impose" anything, they encourage. because they encourage unique individual expression. and artists themselves explore alternative expressions, because that's part of their journey. technical perfection leads to uniformity. do we want artists to make a statement, challenge us, make us question or consider new ideas? do we want them to inspire us, offer unique perspective on the world, give us insight into their psyche or would we rather they create decorative poster art? an artist's expression ought to add another layer on top of technical mastery. realistic reproduction of the real world on the canvas simply isn't enough.
This painting has always been one of my all-time favourites, but I had only ever seen it digitally and I never knew where it was being held. That was, until I moved to Montpellier and visited the Musee Fabre. I can still remember the moment like it was yesterday- I was walking from hall to hall, admiring each painting, until I walked into a room and the first thing I saw was the Fallen Angel. I had never rushed towards a painting like that ever in my life. I remember just standing in front of the work for minutes, drinking in every detail, in complete awe. I still get excited to see it whenever I visit the museum
Something I really really love about this painting is his flexed arms. Its something young kids do when they’re throwing a tantrum - they clench their arms and throw them around. Or it could be trying to release that anger or holding himself back from lashing out or throwing a tantrum. It makes the subject of the painting seem all the more innocent and young as they utilise these childish ways of calming themselves down, and it makes us feel sorry for them as it maybe suggest that they were just too young to know what they did wrong to result in their banishment
2:59 The Execution of Lady Jane Grey has got to be one of the most 4k looking paintings I have ever seen! It looks like a picture taken by a digital camera. That said, I am obsessed with the Fallen Angel painting and wanted to know more about the artist. Something about the eyes, the emotions and how he was able to capture it so well pulled me in the second my eyes landed on the art.
I always enjoy art that feels both open and inviting - conceptually or stylistically - rather than closed and didactic. I think I’m probably not alone with that. There’s probably another tension in this painting which is challenging which is that the viewer is forced to empathise with Satan’s very human and relatable position. He is vulnerable and indignant. Seeing an icon of evil portrayed as something a little more grey, a little more akin to ourselves, is more challenging for me, than the style or technique. Great video, thoughts and considerations as always.
You're absolutely right! I didn't even talk about how relatable and nuanced Satan is and how that might be even more important than technique. Thank you for the super interesting insight!
I am a 17 yo dude who doesnt exactly care about the paintings of the old masters, they look as good to me as any other painting... But this? From the first moment my eyes fell on this, i felt something. Idk what it was that i felt, but it was something that resonated within me, and struck a little chord of wonder and fear... I like this painting.
I especially love this painting because for some reason this is exactly what I pictured Satan to look like, I've always imagined him with messy, curly, ginger hair for some reason lol
My first thought when I saw this painting was, oddly enough, Anakin Skywalker from Revenge of the Sith. He has the same emotions in his eyes, the sadness, the intense rage, the betrayal. To portray that so well in just a static pair of eyes is genius
The Fallen Angel radiates such emotion to me. I feel like if the academy was'nt so restrictive, we would see more works like the Dallen Angel fom Cabanel. He clearly had a great talent for expressing such vivid depiction of emotions. Like you already mentioned, the complexity in the angels face is astonishing.
Cabanel’s Birth of Venus is one of my favorites. Fallen Angel is also one that I’ve bookmarked mentally, I just love this style. It’s amazing to me that someone can come along, live their life, and capture images + feelings that I resonate w./enjoy, (even if not exact) and put them on a canvas.. for me to admire. Even if, hundreds, to thousands of years later. what a time to be alive.
The way people exert creativity within constraints - or even constraints giving birth to creativity - has been one of the most inspiring & encouraging aspects of art history for me. (Like Matisse making cutouts as a response to being confined to a wheelchair.) To be honest, I used to find stuff like Renaissance art boring, but started to educate myself about art styles/movements like Mannerism and Baroque where people, while conforming to boundaries to some degree, transgress and break rules - because we’re humans and it’s in our nature
My mother bought a book about Bouguereau's work from the DIA, Detroit Institute of Art's, giftshop. He has been one of my favourite artists ever since. I remember going to the DIA myself back in college when my campus was just across the street, and I sat at the Nut Gatherer's painting of his for maybe 30 minutes straight. At least two different tour groups came and went as I just stared at every detail.
his rebellion against the academy, knowing that the fallen angel piece wouldn't be favored well, only shows me a painter that believed so heavily in his talents that he can follow both the norms and standards of the academy but also commit to his own narrative of self expression....that's beautiful to me, he just became my favorite painter!!
Well It's quite the coincidence that I had to write a small essay on Cabanel's Cleopatra Testing Poisons on Condemned Prisoners for my exams this morning ! Also great video !
Ever since the almighty algorithm landed this channel on my feed, I've been exposed to the most fascinating pieces of art I could imagine. Even pieces I'm familiar with manage to surprise me in this space. Excellent work, and thank you for this series!
i wouldn't exactly say that the birth of venus is his most popular work because i swear to you if you show all of cabanel's work to a person, they'd go "oh, the fallen angel guy"
Oh, thank you for this amazing video! I have never heard about Cabanel before, and I absolutely love it - the Fallen Angel and the Birth of Venus as well. I will for sure search for more information and I am curious to see more of your videos. Thank you once again!
I am so grateful for the modern art movement and the endless range of subject, style, and creativity that was liberated for the art world from it. However, I think there’s a tragedy lost in the death of Academicism. We went from it being everything that is art to basically not being a part of it. I took several art electives during my college major, and not one gave the time of day to it. To go and learn how to master the brush in the way pre-modern artists had to feels like a near entirely self-guided and almost impossible endeavor. I’m glad with where art is now, but just wish Academicism didn’t have to die to get us there.
I remember seeing this piece around this time in 2020, it haunted me, it got into my brain and all I could think of was that tear in that furious face. I ended up recreating it as practice when I started to get into oil paintings for the first time, I spent two months studying the painting as best as I could, and every time I got more in love with it... I think I spent two weeks alone trying to recreate the feeling on the face. I've done more oil paintings since then, but this one is still my favorite.
very instructive... having majored in French, I along w/ my classmates always heaved a collective ho-hum whenever l'Academie was brought up. you've succeeded in drawing a very insightful point that lifts the mundane to a place of admiration for the hard-fought exceptionalism among some of them.
I think the story behind the Fallen Angel is really simple. And the painting is really simple, too. But nothing beats that expression in the eyes. It's that powerful; it pushes the piece into value for me all on its own.
I've had the honour of seen this painting on the Montpellier museum 2 years ago, and as much as I was moved and touched by paintings "back then", these great works can only make one want to go there again and again, stare at every inch of the piece and never leave. It's weird to always feel you could have appreciated more, looked at it for just one more minute. These are the works that you can be sure are timeless. The painting next to it on the museum, The Death of Moses, for me, is even more beautiful.
I understand your point of view. It's clear that you are much into modern art then into classical, academic art. But I find it kinda ironic that people who say they like meaning, they like expression of ideas, sensibility, humanity in art, fail to apreciate such deep and beautiful concepts with a said "boring painting". The way they capture light, the beautiful machine that is our body, how we humans capture the world, how a range of different colors can create an impression of living flesh. You can't just "look" at things and sprinkle your concept and philosophys on top of that to make the audience feel something dramatic. You have to observe, you have to really pay attention to the world around you to be able to paint with such precision and technique. Be humble, and look around. Be humble and look at a hand for 10 hours do understand it's form, how the light slides trough it. And I am only talking about the more technical aspects. Of course it's sad that there was a time where academys would be so strict, but it has happened with modern art too. It's "cool" and it's "edgy" and "expensive" to make provocative, and fast artwork, and galleries love it. You can make more pieces in a shorter period, that's more money, and sell it at skyrocking prices because it's so "unique and artistic". Every art shcool around the globe will teach you to "paint like a kid", "do expressive work" and won't give you the tools to learn your craft, and have whatever voice you wanna have as a painter, isn't that strict too? Isn't that some form of authority? To deprive a whole generation from knowledge?
Eu pensei em comentar algo nesse vídeo, mas você disse tudo o que eu tinha pra dizer e ainda mais (I thought about let something in the comments, but you said everything i had to say and even more)
academic art is absolutely soulless most of the times, I assume you people just watched a bunch of paintings online, congrats, those are the best of the best, most are forgettable landscapes for your dining room, also a lot of you people seem to confuse academicism with figurative art, there's modern figurative art, a lot, not everything is abstract expressionism, Goya was a figurative painter, and he's probably the fiercest painter ever, nothing to do with photo-realistic dross
you are so right, people overlook the attention to detail and dont look into the painting and the meaning behind it. such a simole painting at first glance is easy for us to admire the skill however if u look closely theres so kuch more. the fineness andshadows and brush work is breathtaking. aswell as thinking back to the access to resources they had back then. now mordern art can be beautiful but now theres obviosuly more types and abstract art is welcomed but as a the modern workd develops, the art developed with it and looses the smartness behind it
For years I saw this painting on the internet and always had a thing for it. Much to my surprise, after watching your video I decide to look it up where it was currently exposed and happens to be on my city! Thanks so much for showing some light to this absolute masterpiece.
Yeah I agree. This painting stuck with me the first time i saw it. Freedom of expression is important, but in my opinion a great artist and make something great regardless of limitations.
Great video! The salons are most famous these days for the work their rejection inspired in the Impressionists, but the academy's training sure did help create some wonderful art on purpose as well, even if it was more limited in scope.
Thank you! When your channel first showed up in my feed, I thought, "Why would YT think I want to watch a snob talk about snobs?" Soooo mistakenly prejudiced on my part. I can't stop listening to your mind-blowing insights into the painting world, and teaching me how to appreciate it. My mom is a painter. I like that she focuses on technical skill and has no patience with total freedom. Your sympathetic videos on Rockwell gave voice to my overall criticism of the art world. But this video right here... Absolutely perfect. It has the power to bridge the divide between old fuddy duddies like me an the younger generations.
I've never really valued or viewed these types of paintings, I would look at them as "pretty pictures" that I was forced to look at during art class when I was younger and try to extract some deeper meaning. However, this painting, I find myself just staring at it in awe, how beautiful it is, just the anger in his eyes, the single tear and how much emotion is being expressed with that piercing gaze. The dark blonde hair, the fading wings, and godly physique. This is a masterpiece in my eyes
Great painting, the first time I saw that face it brought tears to my eyes and felt a really strange emotion. Only music has made me feel that way, never thought a painting could do it.
Thanks for the video on AC. It is nice to hear an other pov, (not necessarily nouveau, as there is no parthenogenesis left, but) a fresh voice emerging, discovering old pieces of fine(r) art, fragile canvasses and such things. Art appreciation is not a fashion to be copied or a trend to follow like sheep do, but an elevating demanding habit, so tough to acquire.
I randomly stumbled upon this video on Twitter but I really loved the style of it, it was really simple yet interesting, I found myself interested in many paintings showed in the video. Looks like I'll be coming back to your channel often.
Great video. I just discovered this painting/Cabanel's work and I love it so I'm looking to learn more about him, so this was so informative. Will definitely check out your other videos
as an art history major, the movement i spent the most time studying and analyzing was modernism, but academicism was always visually my favorite and a huge guilty pleasure. what you said in the defense of academicism chapter is exactly why i enjoy it!! and i also find it funny that these people tried so hard to pass off their art of sexy ladies as "academic" just because they're supposed to depict venus or whatever ((mythological, therefore an academic subject!!!))
It's sad that appreciation for the work of great masters is called a "guilty pleasure" these days. Beauty is a better judge of art -- and harder to make -- than crap made for shock value. "Beautiful" is a much better adjective than "edgy" or "transgressive" or "irreverent." I'm sick of that crap, and don't feel any guilt whatsoever in loving Academic art.
After this video I went back to all my art history books and could find only like three to five sentences for Cabanel (haven't heard of him before). This guy was a genius and I find it extremely unfortunate for him to not be more well known. I know Academic art could be stiff but Napolean bought his work and Cabanel was his preferred artist. Extremely underrated. As you said - his ability to adapt to the situation is amazing. The Fallen Angel is a masterpiece but for me his "Birth of Venus" is mindblowing. Academicism or not I can feel the softness of her skin and hair, the gentle waves of the water and the overall serenity of the moment. Great video and content - already subscribed.
"The literature on creativity strongly suggests that when you impose restrictions on people, it actually makes them more creative rather than less. Because part of what creativity is is overcoming of obstacles. Imagine someone who write poetry in Haiku format. It's very restrictive and obviously arbitrarily so, but the fact of restriction is part of what makes the poetic form possible. The same thing is True when you're playing a game - there's far more things that you can't do, when you play chess, than there are things that you can do, but there's still an infinite variations of chess games. So this idea that there is a dichonomy between structure and rules and creativity is perniciously false and contradicted by the evidence." - Jordan Peterson I think that we shouldn't compare modern and academic art at all, both of them have their own problems. I love early modern art - where they still applied their skills and made their art look absolutely beautiful to most people, including average people. Nowadays art is often used just for making a statement, for propaganda. Art is meant to be more like a search for meaning rather than for saying what is True. As long as these things are included in an artwork - we shouldn't care about the movement.
What I interpret what the fallen angel is feeling and doing, is the bottling of his emotions and trying to act tough in spite of the situation he is currently in. In doing so, his anger and frustration condenses and manifests into a single tear drop, running down the corner of his eye.
Was lucky enough to see this in person this summer in Musée Fabre, Montpellier. Amazing painting and I didn't even know it was in the museum until I stumbled upon it.
I love this painting. I never forget how intense I feel upon seeing the eye. And also the body structure is so accurate especially with the angle of the arms.
this video helped me a lot for one of my assignments in uni, so thank you for making this,. You explained everything in a really helpful and understanding way
The part about artists being forced to do something unique despite being forced down the same narrow path as everyone else reminds me of modern horror movies vs older horror movies; back in the 70s, 80s, and even 90s you were sort of forced to 'hide' the monster for most of the film, as well as limited on what you can or can't do with said monster as a result, which made movies like The Thing, Alien, and The Predator all radically different yet equally unnerving, they simply didn't have as much to work with quite like we do now (in terms of SFX), while today we can CGI in hundreds of thousands of monsters on screen at once for pennies which simply results in boring films that rely on jumpscares. Without some kind of restriction, self-imposed or otherwise, art (in any form) can suffer from being 'too open'
"the academy didn't like this painting because it was 'terribly executed' and 'too romantic'"
that painting is one of the most beautiful things I've ever SEEN what
Back then, if things weren’t done in a PRECISE and particular way, the end product was not seen as having any worth at all. It was a very binary art world, dominated by the academy and with a very “our way or the highway” mindset. To even be entered into consideration for whether a piece of art was “beautiful” or not, it had to meet their criteria. If it didn’t, it was discarded and immediately branded as amateurish and trash. And speaking out against that dismissal branded you as an enemy of the academy in equal measure.
Nah he butchered the anatomy pretty bad, you know jackshit about paintings so you wouldn't know.he fucked up the anatomy but its still pretty beautiful
beauty is in the eye of the beholder and art is whatever we make of it, for the standards of said Academy this wasn't crafted flawlessly and that's the reason they didn't approved it...I agree with you, it's extremely beautiful and a classic
@@christianurena510 hm yes.. i love it, but there is something wrong with the position of the head
i think thats why the academy hated it in the first place, its shows way too much emotion for their tastes
he was 24 years old when he painted the Fallen Angel, that's mind blowing
You weren't impressed when he started at 13!? THAT is mind blowing!
@@BBWahoo there are many talented art kids out there like Akiane she started painting at the age of 8 while I started at the age of 14 doing portraits anatomy and nature. People are slowly evolving
Imagine what we could of accomplished if we didn't stare on screens all day.
24 is kind of old to go through an emo phase.
@@dragoon260Or didn’t have to study many random subjects in school instead on focusing what you want to learn
i fell in love with cabanel's fallen angel piece the first time i saw it, the attention to detail and the anatomy is amazing, the angel's expression and the history it stems from was definitely an addition to my love for it plus its so aesthetically pleasing. needless to say it really took my breath away.
I felt the exact same way when I first saw it, the painting was a huge inspiration for my style at one point, now it’s formed into something different but a lot of his work really helped in my understanding of anatomy and posing of figures
Also, really love your pfp of Venti ^^ I’m Genshin fan myself lol
I know right it's such a beautiful painting with aot of emotion
The fallen angel may be my favourite piece of art out there, the expression on his face is so immersive, it sucks you into the painting and makes you feel for this angel, someone you have no connection to, but cabanel still makes you relate to him, makes him real for the time you're looking at him, its absolutely beautiful!!
It reminds me of anakin crying with his yellow eyes
@@thrilloasis Anakin is a religious reference to Lucifer
yea....
I think you summed this up quite well. It's unfortunate that so many 'academic' artists are no longer as well known as they once were, and while I reject any rigid notions of 'this is what art is, and nothing else'; I also understand the importance of craftsmanship, technique, training - but, above all, talent and creativity. I love Cabanel and Bourguereau, but I also love the Symbolists and the Expressionists. Art is whatever moves you - excites, saddens, pleases and especially, challenges.
So true what you wrote.
Something that bothers me is some modern "artists" that do not actually make art, not even work... That is a total exageration and abuse of the earned freedom in art.
@@Malik-Ibi This is just my opinion, and should be taken as such, but I think art should be a sort of dialogue between the artist and the viewer. Sometimes, I feel like much modern art is simply the artist talking to him/her self. And that's fine, I suppose, but I would prefer to be engaged by art - not simply nonplussed by it.
@@curiousworld7912 - Bingo! Dialogue is the key word. The onanistic impulses that consumed the production of art in the 50s and onward were boring, unengaging, woefully self-reflective. What calls itself "art" today is too often vapid nonsense. Take the human out of art and what's left is a mere thing.
@@jamesrobiscoe1174 Thank you, and I must say; this is the first time I've seen the use of the word 'onanistic' in a UA-cam post. Well-put. :)
art is beauty and nothing else
The fact that the fallen angel is now one of the most famous painting is so great since it was rejected in Cabanel’s life time but is now more famous then some of the art works that were academically accepted back then.
To me it's always kinda looked like that frustrated feeling you would get as a young child when things didn't turn out the way you want, but you know you just simply can't do anything about it.
The lack of autonomy. Every child feels that! Especially when being admonished from a parent like Lucifer being banished from heaven for being an ass. He wasn't even trying to rebel against God (he is now). He wanted to have his own kingdom and be his own god. Like a petulant child, he is frustrated at his lack of autonomy, and he is indignant because he knows he's wrong but has to double down to save face. He has no chance for redemption either so that's the ultimate frustration. He's stuck and doomed.
My thought exactly. The tense musculature and the angel's seething, semi-hidden face all speak to a childlike anger and impotence.
It looks like dude is about to shred the whole universe down to atoms
@@lonnacamacho4383 wow. you couldn't have said it better. do you mind if i save your comment?
@@cursed6368 Absolutely. Thank you for the compliment!
I feel like the emotion that’s portrayed the most in the painting Fallen Angel, is frustration
Jojo is good you hater
is that really the best word you can come up with lol
i can recognize that floch joker profile picture anywhere...
Bro it's more than frustration lol
i see “jealousy” in his eyes
You have introduced a world of art to me that I honestly would of never dove into without your videos. Keep up the great work!
Awww! This means the world to me! It makes me very happy! Thank you so much!
i wouldn't say i'm into the fine arts much aside from admiring the mind boggling skill these painters have, but the Fallen Angel has always stuck to the back of my mind. the expression is so raw and human. rarely do i see the emotion of "so angry that you cry" depicted in any media, which to me this is depicting first and foremost. the fact that he half hides his face but doesn't use his wings to cover himself, or curl up into a more protected position, gives this such an energy of "i may have lost the battle, but i haven't lost the war". it seems to admit defeat in the moment while not being beaten down for good.
Weirdly inspiring for a depiction of a “demon”! Can’t help rooting for the guy
@@Camel_P_oxI thought Lucifer was a non canon name for satan?
@@Camel_P_ox Oh wasn't trying to be rude. It was a genuine question
“You may not find these paintings as enthralling as modern art.” Are you kidding? Every single ‘academic’ painting shown in this video is absolutely stunning and beautiful. The realism and detail given to every single person and place in those paintings are amazing and are a demonstration of pure talent.
In my humble opinion, all of the older academic paintings are so much more engaging and gorgeous compared to the, again in my opinion, ugly, rushed messes that some modern day art is.
Thanks for uploading this video! Cabanel’s Fallen Angel always reminds me of Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader in ROTS. They look alike and share similar subject matter.
Absolutely! They're both pretty tragic characters filled with bitterness, hate, but also sadness.
Thank you for leaving a comment Hugo! It's super appreciated!
@@Shawn.GrenierThank you for responding to my comment and giving your take on it! I really love your videos and keep doing what you’re doing!
Yeah me too, and I‘ve never even watched all of the films fully lmao
Only you can understand the context of the Fallen Angel, whereas the other guy is a puny psychopath that kills kids for no reason.
In church yesterday, in reading some OT, from Numbers and Joshua, the name Anak is mentioned. He was the father of the race of giants known as the Anakim. Anakin. Skywalker. Fallen angels. Nephilim - the abominations created from the offspring of demons and women. Any way! Thought that was an interesting spin, a deeper spin, into the depths of who Anakin is, or how he got his name, especially since he never knew his father.
I've seen many of these paintings many times online, but never knew who did them. Thanks for the great video and for putting the title and artist names.
I think my favorite part about the piece Fallen Angel is how Cabanel used the expression, pose and imagery combine to tell a story that transcends time. Even if you don’t know the full biblical context, just knowing about fallen angels is enough and the painting does the rest. It masterfully displays all the layered emotions that can only come from a complex, deep personal history. It can play into the idea of the sympathetic villain because seeing the extreme pain and hurt of this character makes us understand why they became so dark. A trope that’s only become more popular since then. For example I see this and I immediately think of Anakin Skywalker. Partially because of the likeness, but I think the story Cabanel was trying to tell lines up well. The dark fallen paragon, who’s rejection by those who are supposed to be the “good guy” almost seems as evil as anything the angel might go on to do. It shows he understood the subject matter and told a story that reached from hundreds of years in his past and still connects with the stories we tell hundreds of years later
Excellent analysis
One of my favorite paintings! When I come to Montpellier to study, my friend here told me that this painting is at Musée Fabre which is in Montpellier! I was so glad when I heard about it, but due to COVID-19, I still can not visit the museum to see it with my eyes. I hope all these problems will end soon and we'll be able to visit museums again because we really need them.
Thanks for the video!
It's really a shame that there are no high-resolution reproductions of this painting online. So many people could benefit from being able to look into the details of this amazing artwork. I envy you for being able to see it in person and have access to these details (once Covid is over).
Thanks for the comment!
This brought tears to my eyes. Loved this video
That's very nice to hear! Thank you Eli
Funny how the tables have turned, now schools impose the boring modern styles of the 20th century onto students and classical art is the insurgent. I guess people never learn.
I feel like the same thing is happening with cinema. Back in the day gritty realism was new, subversive and exciting, now anything other than that is dismissed as sugary crap when that couldn’t be further from the truth.
Trying to join in what art is and can be has never worked. It by definition defies all boundaries of self expression if done genuinely
Skill talent always did more for me then modern Art
I'd caution against calling all 20th century styles "boring" just for the sake of discussion -- I think some pieces definitely have their own value. The work of Escher primarily comes to mind for me.
they don't "impose" anything, they encourage. because they encourage unique individual expression. and artists themselves explore alternative expressions, because that's part of their journey. technical perfection leads to uniformity. do we want artists to make a statement, challenge us, make us question or consider new ideas? do we want them to inspire us, offer unique perspective on the world, give us insight into their psyche or would we rather they create decorative poster art? an artist's expression ought to add another layer on top of technical mastery. realistic reproduction of the real world on the canvas simply isn't enough.
i’m so happy i found this channel in 2020. it reinvigorated my love of art. another fantastic vid as always, hope to see so much more in 2021
Thank you so much Ethan for such a sweet comment! I'm very excited for what's in store for 2021!
@@Shawn.Grenier do you still reply to comments ?
I'm not really a painting specialist but The Fallen Angel is magnificient art. Those eyes contain everything. Incredible work!
This painting has always been one of my all-time favourites, but I had only ever seen it digitally and I never knew where it was being held. That was, until I moved to Montpellier and visited the Musee Fabre. I can still remember the moment like it was yesterday- I was walking from hall to hall, admiring each painting, until I walked into a room and the first thing I saw was the Fallen Angel. I had never rushed towards a painting like that ever in my life. I remember just standing in front of the work for minutes, drinking in every detail, in complete awe. I still get excited to see it whenever I visit the museum
Something I really really love about this painting is his flexed arms. Its something young kids do when they’re throwing a tantrum - they clench their arms and throw them around. Or it could be trying to release that anger or holding himself back from lashing out or throwing a tantrum. It makes the subject of the painting seem all the more innocent and young as they utilise these childish ways of calming themselves down, and it makes us feel sorry for them as it maybe suggest that they were just too young to know what they did wrong to result in their banishment
2:59 The Execution of Lady Jane Grey has got to be one of the most 4k looking paintings I have ever seen! It looks like a picture taken by a digital camera. That said, I am obsessed with the Fallen Angel painting and wanted to know more about the artist. Something about the eyes, the emotions and how he was able to capture it so well pulled me in the second my eyes landed on the art.
I always enjoy art that feels both open and inviting - conceptually or stylistically - rather than closed and didactic. I think I’m probably not alone with that. There’s probably another tension in this painting which is challenging which is that the viewer is forced to empathise with Satan’s very human and relatable position. He is vulnerable and indignant. Seeing an icon of evil portrayed as something a little more grey, a little more akin to ourselves, is more challenging for me, than the style or technique.
Great video, thoughts and considerations as always.
You're absolutely right! I didn't even talk about how relatable and nuanced Satan is and how that might be even more important than technique. Thank you for the super interesting insight!
I am a 17 yo dude who doesnt exactly care about the paintings of the old masters, they look as good to me as any other painting... But this? From the first moment my eyes fell on this, i felt something. Idk what it was that i felt, but it was something that resonated within me, and struck a little chord of wonder and fear... I like this painting.
It made me aroused
Its funny because im 17 rn and im in the same exact position as you were 2 years ago, i can relate to every single word you’ve said
I especially love this painting because for some reason this is exactly what I pictured Satan to look like, I've always imagined him with messy, curly, ginger hair for some reason lol
My first thought when I saw this painting was, oddly enough, Anakin Skywalker from Revenge of the Sith. He has the same emotions in his eyes, the sadness, the intense rage, the betrayal. To portray that so well in just a static pair of eyes is genius
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Omg I thought the exact same thing 😮
Lucas placed a reference to The Fallen Angel in Revenge of the sith when Obi-Wan and Anakin are fighting on Mustafar
Christensen is a great actor I hate how he was treated back then
The Fallen Angel radiates such emotion to me. I feel like if the academy was'nt so restrictive, we would see more works like the Dallen Angel fom Cabanel. He clearly had a great talent for expressing such vivid depiction of emotions.
Like you already mentioned, the complexity in the angels face is astonishing.
Cabanel’s Birth of Venus is one of my favorites. Fallen Angel is also one that I’ve bookmarked mentally, I just love this style.
It’s amazing to me that someone can come along, live their life, and capture images + feelings that I resonate w./enjoy, (even if not exact) and put them on a canvas.. for me to admire. Even if, hundreds, to thousands of years later. what a time to be alive.
"Bookmarked mentally" i wish i could do that
The way people exert creativity within constraints - or even constraints giving birth to creativity - has been one of the most inspiring & encouraging aspects of art history for me. (Like Matisse making cutouts as a response to being confined to a wheelchair.)
To be honest, I used to find stuff like Renaissance art boring, but started to educate myself about art styles/movements like Mannerism and Baroque where people, while conforming to boundaries to some degree, transgress and break rules - because we’re humans and it’s in our nature
My mother bought a book about Bouguereau's work from the DIA, Detroit Institute of Art's, giftshop. He has been one of my favourite artists ever since. I remember going to the DIA myself back in college when my campus was just across the street, and I sat at the Nut Gatherer's painting of his for maybe 30 minutes straight. At least two different tour groups came and went as I just stared at every detail.
his rebellion against the academy, knowing that the fallen angel piece wouldn't be favored well, only shows me a painter that believed so heavily in his talents that he can follow both the norms and standards of the academy but also commit to his own narrative of self expression....that's beautiful to me, he just became my favorite painter!!
Well It's quite the coincidence that I had to write a small essay on Cabanel's Cleopatra Testing Poisons on Condemned Prisoners for my exams this morning ! Also great video !
What are the odds? That's a crazy coincidence! I really hope you did well on your exam!
Thank you for the compliment and thank you for commenting!
Ever since the almighty algorithm landed this channel on my feed, I've been exposed to the most fascinating pieces of art I could imagine. Even pieces I'm familiar with manage to surprise me in this space. Excellent work, and thank you for this series!
@Leonhard Euler haha Too true
i wouldn't exactly say that the birth of venus is his most popular work because i swear to you if you show all of cabanel's work to a person, they'd go "oh, the fallen angel guy"
Oh, thank you for this amazing video! I have never heard about Cabanel before, and I absolutely love it - the Fallen Angel and the Birth of Venus as well. I will for sure search for more information and I am curious to see more of your videos. Thank you once again!
I'm so happy to read this. Thank you so much Jaroslava! Your comment made my day :)
That face is exactly why I clicked on this video. Its astonishing and mesmerizing. Interested in more of Cabanel's work.
I am so grateful for the modern art movement and the endless range of subject, style, and creativity that was liberated for the art world from it. However, I think there’s a tragedy lost in the death of Academicism. We went from it being everything that is art to basically not being a part of it. I took several art electives during my college major, and not one gave the time of day to it. To go and learn how to master the brush in the way pre-modern artists had to feels like a near entirely self-guided and almost impossible endeavor. I’m glad with where art is now, but just wish Academicism didn’t have to die to get us there.
These videos are stunning and truly deserve more shine. Please keep up all of your hard work
I remember seeing this piece around this time in 2020, it haunted me, it got into my brain and all I could think of was that tear in that furious face. I ended up recreating it as practice when I started to get into oil paintings for the first time, I spent two months studying the painting as best as I could, and every time I got more in love with it... I think I spent two weeks alone trying to recreate the feeling on the face.
I've done more oil paintings since then, but this one is still my favorite.
Every time I see tat painting I just think
“it’s over Anakin I have the high ground!”
“YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY POWER”
Frrrr
very instructive... having majored in French, I along w/ my classmates always heaved a collective ho-hum whenever l'Academie was brought up. you've succeeded in drawing a very insightful point that lifts the mundane to a place of admiration for the hard-fought exceptionalism among some of them.
i'm reminded of the often quoted "limitations foster creativity", there is a lot to be said for having limits sometimes
I think the story behind the Fallen Angel is really simple. And the painting is really simple, too. But nothing beats that expression in the eyes. It's that powerful; it pushes the piece into value for me all on its own.
Hear, hear.
I've had the honour of seen this painting on the Montpellier museum 2 years ago, and as much as I was moved and touched by paintings "back then", these great works can only make one want to go there again and again, stare at every inch of the piece and never leave. It's weird to always feel you could have appreciated more, looked at it for just one more minute. These are the works that you can be sure are timeless.
The painting next to it on the museum, The Death of Moses, for me, is even more beautiful.
I understand your point of view. It's clear that you are much into modern art then into classical, academic art. But I find it kinda ironic that people who say they like meaning, they like expression of ideas, sensibility, humanity in art, fail to apreciate such deep and beautiful concepts with a said "boring painting". The way they capture light, the beautiful machine that is our body, how we humans capture the world, how a range of different colors can create an impression of living flesh. You can't just "look" at things and sprinkle your concept and philosophys on top of that to make the audience feel something dramatic. You have to observe, you have to really pay attention to the world around you to be able to paint with such precision and technique. Be humble, and look around. Be humble and look at a hand for 10 hours do understand it's form, how the light slides trough it. And I am only talking about the more technical aspects.
Of course it's sad that there was a time where academys would be so strict, but it has happened with modern art too. It's "cool" and it's "edgy" and "expensive" to make provocative, and fast artwork, and galleries love it. You can make more pieces in a shorter period, that's more money, and sell it at skyrocking prices because it's so "unique and artistic". Every art shcool around the globe will teach you to "paint like a kid", "do expressive work" and won't give you the tools to learn your craft, and have whatever voice you wanna have as a painter, isn't that strict too? Isn't that some form of authority? To deprive a whole generation from knowledge?
You summed it up so well. The "defense of academic art despite its inferiority to modern art" was certainly a little grating lol.
Eu pensei em comentar algo nesse vídeo, mas você disse tudo o que eu tinha pra dizer e ainda mais (I thought about let something in the comments, but you said everything i had to say and even more)
academic art is absolutely soulless most of the times, I assume you people just watched a bunch of paintings online, congrats, those are the best of the best, most are forgettable landscapes for your dining room, also a lot of you people seem to confuse academicism with figurative art, there's modern figurative art, a lot, not everything is abstract expressionism, Goya was a figurative painter, and he's probably the fiercest painter ever, nothing to do with photo-realistic dross
Modern art is a money laundering scheme, not art
you are so right, people overlook the attention to detail and dont look into the painting and the meaning behind it. such a simole painting at first glance is easy for us to admire the skill however if u look closely theres so kuch more. the fineness andshadows and brush work is breathtaking. aswell as thinking back to the access to resources they had back then. now mordern art can be beautiful but now theres obviosuly more types and abstract art is welcomed but as a the modern workd develops, the art developed with it and looses the smartness behind it
For years I saw this painting on the internet and always had a thing for it. Much to my surprise, after watching your video I decide to look it up where it was currently exposed and happens to be on my city! Thanks so much for showing some light to this absolute masterpiece.
Thanks for an illuminating video on this fascinating corner of Art History. Informative & enjoyable. Agree that "Fallen Angel" is a stand-out piece.
Yeah I agree. This painting stuck with me the first time i saw it. Freedom of expression is important, but in my opinion a great artist and make something great regardless of limitations.
Great video! The salons are most famous these days for the work their rejection inspired in the Impressionists, but the academy's training sure did help create some wonderful art on purpose as well, even if it was more limited in scope.
Bro i just came across your channel half an hour ago and it's one of my favorites now , dont ever stop , you deserve so much more recognition
I just stumbled upon this channel a few days ago, it’s a real hidden gem. Keep up the good work! I hope you get the recognition you deserve!!
Thank you so much! Those are some incredibly kind words and they make me want to keep up with the good work even more!
Thanks again!
I love that Lucifer in this painting is pictured a lot like Anakin Skywalker, whereas he fell to the dark side
Thank you! When your channel first showed up in my feed, I thought, "Why would YT think I want to watch a snob talk about snobs?" Soooo mistakenly prejudiced on my part. I can't stop listening to your mind-blowing insights into the painting world, and teaching me how to appreciate it.
My mom is a painter. I like that she focuses on technical skill and has no patience with total freedom. Your sympathetic videos on Rockwell gave voice to my overall criticism of the art world. But this video right here... Absolutely perfect. It has the power to bridge the divide between old fuddy duddies like me an the younger generations.
you know the video is guna be good when the most replayed part is the beginning of the video
I think if I saw this in real life I’d cry, it’s breathtaking.
I've never really valued or viewed these types of paintings, I would look at them as "pretty pictures" that I was forced to look at during art class when I was younger and try to extract some deeper meaning. However, this painting, I find myself just staring at it in awe, how beautiful it is, just the anger in his eyes, the single tear and how much emotion is being expressed with that piercing gaze. The dark blonde hair, the fading wings, and godly physique. This is a masterpiece in my eyes
the last sentences gave me chills to the bone, you did such a nice job wording how I felt about the under appreciation of his paintings, great work.❤️
Great painting, the first time I saw that face it brought tears to my eyes and felt a really strange emotion. Only music has made me feel that way, never thought a painting could do it.
Thanks for the video on AC.
It is nice to hear an other pov, (not necessarily nouveau, as there is no parthenogenesis left, but) a fresh voice emerging, discovering old pieces of fine(r) art, fragile canvasses and such things. Art appreciation is not a fashion to be copied or a trend to follow like sheep do, but an elevating demanding habit, so tough to acquire.
I appreciate both modern and academic artist. Thank you for educating me
The most beautiful painting I've ever seen
I absolutely love this painting- was introduced to it bc people were redrawing the pose he was in, it's so unbelievably good.
What a beautiful piece, how could anyone reject the raw emotion in those eyes
This beautiful painting of the Fallen Angel is in my home town, i saw it one day, without knowing it was in the museum i was visiting!
The Canvas: MOVING!
Only recently did I discover this painting exists, and I absolutely fell in love with it...
Those. Damn. Eyes.
This painting is gorgeous. I'm in love with it.
I love how I just discovered this feed while I'm super busy. Looks like I'm binge watching tonight
Oh wow! That's great to read! I hope you enjoy :)
didn't truly understand how much i loved and appreciated Cabanel's work until i watched this video. man he was astonishing
Genuinely one of the most beautiful pieces of art ever. It's been a favorite of mine for years
I randomly stumbled upon this video on Twitter but I really loved the style of it, it was really simple yet interesting, I found myself interested in many paintings showed in the video. Looks like I'll be coming back to your channel often.
restriction and creativity can absolutely go together. Great video!
i found your videos by chance and i love them , thank you for great videos and effort you put! I wish you had many more subscribers
Wow! Thank you so much! I'm very happy you enjoy my videos and the subscriber count keeps going up. thanks to people like you!
Thank you!!
about a week ago, i got The Fallen Angel tattooed on my back. such a beautiful painting with so much emotion.
when you said he was 13 when he made that self portrait i literally yelled “WHAT?!” my dad had to come check on me lol
Those eyes really are astounding. I won't forget this painting in a hurry.
Another Banger video
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Thank you so much! It feels amazing to read this!
Great video. I just discovered this painting/Cabanel's work and I love it so I'm looking to learn more about him, so this was so informative. Will definitely check out your other videos
Beautifully said. Important to consider. Thank you.
as an art history major, the movement i spent the most time studying and analyzing was modernism, but academicism was always visually my favorite and a huge guilty pleasure. what you said in the defense of academicism chapter is exactly why i enjoy it!! and i also find it funny that these people tried so hard to pass off their art of sexy ladies as "academic" just because they're supposed to depict venus or whatever ((mythological, therefore an academic subject!!!))
It's sad that appreciation for the work of great masters is called a "guilty pleasure" these days. Beauty is a better judge of art -- and harder to make -- than crap made for shock value. "Beautiful" is a much better adjective than "edgy" or "transgressive" or "irreverent." I'm sick of that crap, and don't feel any guilt whatsoever in loving Academic art.
Absolutely Luved this - you’re so informative and have enjoyed all your information on famous or not so well known artists thankmuou
After this video I went back to all my art history books and could find only like three to five sentences for Cabanel (haven't heard of him before). This guy was a genius and I find it extremely unfortunate for him to not be more well known. I know Academic art could be stiff but Napolean bought his work and Cabanel was his preferred artist. Extremely underrated. As you said - his ability to adapt to the situation is amazing. The Fallen Angel is a masterpiece but for me his "Birth of Venus" is mindblowing. Academicism or not I can feel the softness of her skin and hair, the gentle waves of the water and the overall serenity of the moment. Great video and content - already subscribed.
Baldomero Romero Ressendi, another artist.
@@Mel-so2pn Will definitely check him! Thank you for the suggestion.
Había visto esa pintura, más no sabía el autor. Esa mirada generalmente la ponen los niños cuando lloran de impotencia.
I've probably never commented on a youtube video, but I absolutely love your channel!
"The literature on creativity strongly suggests that when you impose restrictions on people, it actually makes them more creative rather than less. Because part of what creativity is is overcoming of obstacles. Imagine someone who write poetry in Haiku format. It's very restrictive and obviously arbitrarily so, but the fact of restriction is part of what makes the poetic form possible. The same thing is True when you're playing a game - there's far more things that you can't do, when you play chess, than there are things that you can do, but there's still an infinite variations of chess games.
So this idea that there is a dichonomy between structure and rules and creativity is perniciously false and contradicted by the evidence." - Jordan Peterson
I think that we shouldn't compare modern and academic art at all, both of them have their own problems. I love early modern art - where they still applied their skills and made their art look absolutely beautiful to most people, including average people. Nowadays art is often used just for making a statement, for propaganda. Art is meant to be more like a search for meaning rather than for saying what is True. As long as these things are included in an artwork - we shouldn't care about the movement.
Imagine if cabarnal had access to modern day filmmaking equipment.. he would be a world class cinematographer and set director. He's genius. Love it.
I LOVE ART PIECES THAT EXPRESS STRONG RAW EMOTIONS AND FALLEN ANGEL IS ONE OF THEM RAAAHHHHHH
thank you so much for this precious genre,
UA-cam is really doing a great job this day they keep recommending me art videos, yours was quite interesting
What I interpret what the fallen angel is feeling and doing, is the bottling of his emotions and trying to act tough in spite of the situation he is currently in. In doing so, his anger and frustration condenses and manifests into a single tear drop, running down the corner of his eye.
i have been obsessed over this piece since the first time i saw it, i adore it so much.
the fallen angel painting has always been my favorite art piece and will continue to be the greatest in my opinion
Your videos really help me sleep
Was lucky enough to see this in person this summer in Musée Fabre, Montpellier. Amazing painting and I didn't even know it was in the museum until I stumbled upon it.
This painting is the only reason why i have to go to Montpellier 😂
I love this painting. I never forget how intense I feel upon seeing the eye. And also the body structure is so accurate especially with the angle of the arms.
Possibly the coldest painting ever. Bro looks so fucking fresh in that pose. 🥶🥶
absolutely amazing
this video helped me a lot for one of my assignments in uni, so thank you for making this,. You explained everything in a really helpful and understanding way
Aww thank you so much! I'm glad I could help! I really hope you do great on your assignment! :)
The part about artists being forced to do something unique despite being forced down the same narrow path as everyone else reminds me of modern horror movies vs older horror movies; back in the 70s, 80s, and even 90s you were sort of forced to 'hide' the monster for most of the film, as well as limited on what you can or can't do with said monster as a result, which made movies like The Thing, Alien, and The Predator all radically different yet equally unnerving, they simply didn't have as much to work with quite like we do now (in terms of SFX), while today we can CGI in hundreds of thousands of monsters on screen at once for pennies which simply results in boring films that rely on jumpscares. Without some kind of restriction, self-imposed or otherwise, art (in any form) can suffer from being 'too open'
Sin dudas uno de mis pintores favoritos!!!
I love this channel already