Reloadable 308 Cartridge for the Noodler's Ahab
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Noodler's Ink introduces its smallest bottle, with a screw on cap and seal just like any other bottle....but designed to be reloadable and to directly fill any Noodler's Ahab pen. Some customers asked repeatedly for the convenience of a small ink storage unit and/or cartridge...a biodegradable and reloadable unit is our answer. This weekend at the San Francisco Pen Show, the first reloadable 308 cartridges will be available at the table with "Pacific Dawn at the Golden Gate" ink - an ink Noodler's made specifically for the San Francisco event.
Some of the most recent Neponset pens also can utilize the 308, though the tolerances of earlier models may be too restrictive to permit its full barrel clearance. All current production Neponset pens are being made to accommodate the 308.
Eventually Noodler's will likely produce a cartridge case, but in the meantime other affordable and readily available alternatives are to be found. At the risk of offending those who dislike such freedom yet again, here are some very affordable pocket, hand bag, desk, and briefcase holders of Noodler's 308 reloadable cartridges (only use those made for the 308 size). These items are affordable due to their large market and economies of scale and it is hoped that the competitive prices can also benefit fountain pen users:
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Nathan takes such care with everything he does and really thinks these things through. You are a national treasure, sir!
Dear Nathan - you're literally the best thing to happen to fountain pens in America in the last 40 years. I always loved fountain pens but they were usually either disposable, expensive, or didn't really showcase the part that most people really care about - the inks. I bought a bottle of your black swan in aussie roses and it single handedly rekindled my love of fountain pens. Have bought a half dozen bottles, a konrad, creaper, and love my new little charlie, and will be buying everything except sheen inks (which I'd buy from you if you sold) from you for as long as you're selling them
Rock on.
I've had my Ahab since they were released. A week ago I bought these, and it's a game changer. Awesome product, I can throw a couple in my bag, and be confident I can keep on writing without the bottle, or wondering where I will be able to refill. Thanks for continuing to add to your products, even years after they've been on the market. Many other companies would have just made this for a new pen, forcing the consumer to make another purchase. Ahab and a spare Cartridge of Dark Matter are now part of my every day carry.
Hi, just wanted to know about the cartridges. Will it start leaking when the ink level is low? Thanks in advance!
@@zac5914 This cartridge is insulated from the barrel wall and I have not had any issue with expansion of the air bubble....think of a WW II Morrison Patriot, Parker 51, etc...any pen with an insulated ink chamber tends not to have that issue. The air bubble only expands more insistently from the heat of your hand if the entire ink chamber rests upon the barrel wall itself with no insulation. That is why some people with large Pelikans and Mont Blancs expel the air from a piston filler during use now and then to prevent the air from making the ink flow too generous (especially on cold winter days when the temperature changes are more dramatic). The 308 cartridge sits with air, 2 walls, and generally a breather tube to control the expansion forces of temperature and atmosphere (I have often used them right down to the very last drop...even during blizzards with odd pressure systems!).
@@InkNeedLastForever Thank you very much for the explanation.
How long does the cartridge last you? I would think a couple days. Is Ahab that wet of a writer that it uses up a whole cartridge, and requires refills, or a bottle daily??
@@chrisblanc663 Oh, they last a while , roughly same as a piston refill. The Ahab isn't necessarily a super wet with regular writing, but it can go through some ink if you were to really push the flexing a lot. I like keeping an extra cartridge in my pouch though, as it always seems to run out when I'm away from home.
Others have said it better than I can. Bravo. Brilliant. And... Thanks! I'm eager to acquire a set.
Thanks for coming up with this concept! I've been trying to come up with an effective way to carrying ink while deployed, since carrying a bottle in the field can be tricky. This will work perfectly, and can be slotted into a traditional web bullet bandolier in my ruck. Cheers!
In World War I they had rainwater and ink pellets to drop in an eyedropper filled pen...it did not work very well as many notes washed off to nothing in the trenches and their last words to loved ones were lost forever. My nightmare is a modern soldier trying to write home or for rescue during the heat of battle thinking it is his last moment...and the cell and portable device is out of range, satellite is down...if taken prisoner or worse, those portable devices are history. Some waterproof ink on a scrap of paper put under a particular black rock on white gravel in an SOS series could be the difference between rescue and a very bad experience. I wish you the best and hope you never experience that, but wanted you to know how incredibly satisfied I am in reading your comment above! Thank you for your service!
+InkNeedLastForever the pleasure is mine! Having permanent ink is always useful, and it'll be nice to have them in portable size.
I think you've managed to revolutionize the market yet again. I can't wait to get my hands on one of these!
After a VERY long time with NO vendors having these 308's in stock, I've finally received a 5-pack of these little beauties and they work with the Ahab beautifully. While my Ahab drawing pen remains eyedropper filled, my Ahab writing pen (with the non-flexible nib) writes volumes without a refill and no gushers, and my Ahab Brush flows beautifully with filled replacements standing to one side for rapid refill mid-job. These are wonderful, and Nathan deserves high praise for introducing them.
Nathan, thank you. Your products are fantastic and your videos are always wonderfully informative, on both your products and our American history.
I'll be using your pens and ink so long as you keep making them.
That really is an awesome idea. I think for someone like myself, a student, something like this can easily be brought to have some backup ink without having to lug around a bottle.
Nathan thanks for stepping up the game once again.
I know I'm late to the game but I just have to say that Nathan and Noodler's was my first real ink and good fountain pen experience and I'm so grateful for the care you take in designing your products. The "charlie" has become the coveted pen in our house as my 10yo daughter keeps asking for one even though she has a Lamy Safari. I'm so pleased with the ink and pens that we have 4 big bottles and Charlies and 2 small bottles and I just ordered an Ahab Demonstrator.
incredible. i love all the things you do with inks and pens. i really appreciate all of it.
What a great product…just bought a five pack from Goulet Pens. Very fast delivery from Brian and crew. Nathan is the King 👑 of Inks! Cheers from Nova Scotia.
What with the controversy with Goulet Co. I will no longer conduct business with the Goulets. Pure Pen-England, Stilo e Style-Italy & Dromgool's-Houston, Texas. Just down 10. All three companies are faster and cheaper than Goulet. Inky days!
Those are so good. I'm sorely missing that type of thing on all the other converter pens now...
I love this product. Just started using it a couple weeks ago and my Ahab w/ Dragon's Napalm + 1 extra cartridge is my EDC.
The 308 Cartridges make the Ahabs, Neponsets, and Triple Tails even better. Thanks!
Finally got some of those refillable cartridges as well as one Dixie, which included a Charlie. All of them are awesome, so thank you for making these!
never would have thought of using one of my ammo plastic holders to store my 308 carts!! Great. thanks.
thank you so much for designing these
My bottle of HOD came with a Charlie with a crack in the body of the pen that slowly oozed ink. I coated it with UV resin, cured and put it on my lathe to sand it. Something about the nib on my charlie. It writes so nice and the way in which the tip was ground imparts such beautiful lines but I can't explain it. Just looks different than any other pens I have.
Can not wait for these to be available. I use an Ahab and Ahab brush all the time when I'm outdoors and have gotten a few folks in the local SAR group using Ahabs as well. This will definitely make it easier
Nathan you did it again! That is an amazing looking product, it even made my roommate come in from the other room thinking I was watching a reloading video ha. I also am glad I got my 2 dixie pens when I did also my cousin got one she loves it.
Great doodling, I mean Noodling. Thank you
Your videos are always super captivating and interesting along with your commentary, keep up the work
I love these cartridges, Mr. Tardif, but I love less the apparent softness of the threads on some of them, because at least two of them have caps that no longer seal completely, or while they seal they don't stop after turning and do not seal properly on my Ahab pens. that may be my Clumsy turning or it may be a softness of the material in the threading or some quality control issues in manufacturing, but I use them, and I like them, and I bought 2 sets so far and not just because a couple of the cartridges have failed in their threading. I like them, it's a great concept and you continue to make wonderful products keep up the good work! (just take a look at the threads on some of these things)
Two people at Boston showed me this (both had tightly wound teflon tape to expand the threads and form a seal) and I gently removed almost all the teflon tape, gently heated the threads...and expanded the threads of the section by gently pushing in the cone end of a freshly sharpened pencil to expand the threads back to where they were originally (done from the rear of the section with the nib/feed removed). Part of the reason why I can drive my car over this plastic...and why it retains color so well for 80+ years...is that it has some "give" to resist cracking. I know some out there want a repair department and high end costs added to the product for issues like this...but a pencil, some teflon tape, and a little gentle heat (some use the steam from a kettle) is all that is needed if this issue ever happens.
the moment I saw this in goulet, I was sold i added it to my order.
I don't have any noodler's pens. yet. though one thing that I really get into is any product that helps get away from disposable consumables. being a college student I'll definitely have to pick up a brush pen and some highlighter ink.
I just got my cartridges! I can't wait to try them out. :D
Very cool idea! I wish a system like that would be available for standard international cartridges.
I've been looking for an inexpensive daily carry, but I didn't go with the Ahab because I switch colors frequently when I take notes in class (limited space and time) and preferred a snap cap. These cartridges really change the equation, though. I carry around several vials of ink because disposable cartridges are ludicrously expensive, and if these can replace those than Ahabs may replace the metropolitans I'm currently using.
308 cartridges look awesome Cheers
This is such a brilliant idea. Only if these reloadable cartridges were made for standard international pens or each of the proprietary manufacturers.
I was threatened with lawsuits. Those people are real nice , eh? I also gave up on that idea when the cost levels for such a cartridge exceeded my affordability targets. This cartridge holds more, is tough and durable, and fits a pen design that I personally believe to be far better. ;-)
You should have done this in two videos. I just wanted to know how to load in my Ahab.
the only improvement i can think of is designing a way to incorporate a piston mechanism, so you can expell excess air to prevent ink burps.
Awesome!!!
Received the new American Aristocracy today! I don't know what color I received, but I like it! I want all three colors, maybe someone in the resale business will start to test them so that they can be ordered according to color.
It is a very narrow range - if you were to take those three vintages from the colonial period and hold them up to the light (using modern equivalents) you'll note the colors are very close behind the glass. It is a variation of only about 6% at its greatest...but within that variation, each bottle is absolutely unique as it is bottled ONE bottle at a time...by hand. Just in case people don't know the reference...here is a quote from the first description:
"Henry Gage (3rd Viscount Gage) son of Thomas Gage (Royal Military Governor of Massachusetts) was responsible for the purchase of an estimated 19,000 bottles of wine including the most popular at the time among the aristocrats: red port, dark sherry, and Madeira… As the aristocrats surely were not giving the wine to those commoners paying the excessively punitive taxation of empire, but instead were using it to pry influence and connections from fellow aristocrats...in order to better distribute the largess and grandeur of state power and wealth amongst themselves - Noodler’s Ink has modeled “American Aristocracy” as an ink bottled individually, one bottle at a time with each bottle thus being purposefully unique…to resemble a conservative colonial semblance of the three most aristocratic colours: red port, dark sherry, and Madeira."
This is ingenious and I have been wondering why reusable cartridges didn’t seem to be a thing. But why isn’t it the standard size so other pens can use it?
I am excited about this!!!
Would be cool if you could sell a conversion kit for the ahab to make it a brush pen. I see that its the same body, cap, converter with a different section
That is really cool.
and I was thinking..... 308 is so much easier to say, than 7.62x51.
I just love the feel and writing characteristics of my new Ahab. The weird thing though is that if it sits in my hand for even thirty seconds it is dry and requires some dry scribbling to get er going again. Alternatively, and inevitably, upon starting to write, after half a page or so, the ben will kinda blurp over the page making two or three words unreadable. I am using Noodler's X-Feather and the plunger machine that came inside the pen outta the box. What am I doing wrong?????
Hello I love the look of the Charlie pens. Would you ever consider bringing them back? I mean like, even if you'd be selling them seprately from the ink bottles I'd love to pay for one.
Does the ahab brush still come with a ballpoint?? That would be awesome for those rare situations that I need to write with a ballpoint.
What do you mean flattened sides on the O Rings?
Good Morning, I'm writing you from Nice, South of France, excuse me for my bad english...Do the Noodler's Cartridge 308 fit to every Noodler's Ahab Fountain Pen or only for the one you are using in the demo ? Thank you very much for your answer, Marianne
Have these roller ball pens been discontinued?
And thank you Nathan for the 308s! I've just purchased one for every bottle ink I own, around 50, so I can have them on the ready anytime.
I have provided the following links (also below the video above) to these very affordable cartridge cases that will hold the reloadable 308 cartridge for storage in any handbag, desk, briefcase, or pocket. It might even be amusing having such a case...for of all things...a fountain pen ink cartridge that is biodegradable/reloadable and otherwise environmentally very friendly.
www.midwayusa.com/product/285636/mtm-flip-top-belt-style-ammo-box-22-250-remington-243-winchester-308-winchester-20-round-plastic-green
www.midwayusa.com/product/1564275140/mtm-slip-top-ammo-box-270-winchester-30-06-springfield-8x57mm-mauser-20-round-plastic
www.midwayusa.com/product/466584/plano-ammo-box-220-swift-243-winchester-308-winchester-20-round-plastic-olive-drab-and-clear-green
www.cabelas.com/product/MTM-Case-Guard-J-Round-Slip-Top-Rifle-Ammo-Boxes/733645.uts?productVariantId=1324230&WT.tsrc=PPC&WT.mc_id=GoogleProductAds&WT.z_mc_id1=25913112&rid=20&gclid=COGxlvnJ7s4CFQtZhgodhEEHCQ&gclsrc=aw.ds
www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=1159806&destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct.jsp%3FproductId%3D733645%26type%3Dproduct
This amuses me way too much.
I'm going to make some slots out of elasticated material so that these can slip onto my bag like spare shells.
I love this concept, I rally wish more pens had large refillable screw top cartridges like these.
But here is the weird thing; I noticed that when my ink has been in it for a day it aquires a stronger and more yellow/green colour than before but there was a pink stain around the threads dispite using a blue ink. I cleaned the cartridge well and the pink came out then I left some water in it to see what happens, surprisingly after about only 10 minutes the water had a pink tint to it as if it was reacting to the material which the cartridge is made from. This is very weird, does anyone know why this is happening and how I can prevent it? It happens with the Ahab's pump filler too.
Mr. Tariff. I love the refill. Would you be able to tell me the thread pitch where it attaches to the Ahab? I'm an amateur pen maker and would like to make a section to accept this cartridge.
HEY HUBBABYBBA, AFTER 50 YEARS I'M GETTING BACK INTO FOUNTAIN PENS.HAD A SET WHEN I WAS 8. I JUST ORDERED A JINHAO 159 TA START WITH. AND I WAS WONDERING IF THE 308 CARTRIDGE WOULD BE COMPATABLE WITH IT. IF NOT MIGHT YOU KNOW OF A INK CARTRIDGE THAT WOULD BE ?
That's a great idea, Mr. Tardif! I was sometimes reluctant to bring my Ahab with me when going to work when it started running low on ink, this will solve it. When will these be available through retailers? Will we be able to purchase them separately or only with inks/pens?
I think some retailers might offer them for sale individually, but I believe most might offer them at $10 for 10 cartridges. You should be able to soon find them in some quantity for about $1 full retail (or a dollar equivalent overseas). I could not believe how costly some of the disposable cartridges had become since I last priced them years ago. I hope this can save you a LOT of money!
InkNeedLastForever Oh wow, that is really inexpensive! I was expecting 2-5$ for each one, but this is a very nice surprise! It will indeed save me a lot of money, thank you so much for your wonderful ideas Mr. Tardif!
I bought my Konrad Galapagos Tortoise Rollerball before the brush combo was available. Will the brush pen feed become available to purchase individually like the other ebonite feeds?
Also, I recently received the Charlie pen. The colors in the cap are captivating. The nib is remarkably smooth. I want to say thank you for providing that gift in the hopes of preserving free speech and the freedom of the press.
If you bought it before, please contact Luxury Brands on the Noodler's website - if you are willing to pay postage I believe they will set you up with the extras. ;-)
Thank you kindly.
Does this concept work with other smaller pens??
Love my piston fill, but this is even better!
New Ahab colorway soon?
New Neponset colors are being worked on, and trying to keep in stock all the Ahab colors. What new Ahab color did you have in mind?
Any of the acrylics? do you have a video talking about the durability of acrylic vs standard ahab material?
The material for Ahabs, Charlies, and many of the Konrads (except those that are ebonite and acrylic) is more durable when it comes to shock/impact and color retention in strong UV light over time....but it does not shine as well as acrylic as it is not as hard (though it insulates so well that when harder plastics feel cold in the hand...it warms to the hand almost instantly - a quality similar to classic ebonite). Acrylic has a gem like quality to it and far better color retention over time than the ubiquitous discolored vintage celluloids, but that hard quality polish/shine and inherently captivating treasure like beauty comes at the cost of reduced durability. If you send any acrylic out of a 10 gauge shotgun, it WILL shatter into dust (even at only 800 feet per second)...whereas the ahab material may splinter, it will not turn entirely to dust at the speed of sound as acrylic does. That is an extreme example...yet a less extreme example is dropping your pen at a drive up ATM and having the car in back drive over it...and you then need to sign an important document with durable ink...! You might like a pen that had its material tested down the barrel of a shotgun at that particularly unique moment as it is at least more likely to have survived enough to make a needed signature. ;-)
Excellent, thank you for the response, sir! Its good to hear the Ahabs are very durable as I keep one in the chest pocket of my uniform every day! I keep her inked w/ Heart of darkness for signing paperwork, god knows the military loves paperwork....
Thank you for your service. 👍🏼👊🏼💥
Nathan...I put different inks in a bunch of these cartridges and came back a few days later to find a lot of the ink evaporated. What happened???
Thanks I will look into these cartridges. I have been using your Inks now for a while and just bought an Ahab from Pure Pens.Do the cartridges just slot onto the ebonite feed as is or do they need to be sealed with some silicone grease to prevent leakage?
All my stuff is in storage, but am getting ready to try it again. Long term right hand fine motor control problem, which is why I used soft lead or fountain men. So, will the 308 cartridge fit the Shaeffer Calligraphy set, or just the Ahab....Wow, I saw Ahab Brush pen is not expensive. I am so used to getting Fahrney's catalogue. So, I will definitely be getting a couple and the refillable cartridges you are showing. Have always wanted to go to Pen show, but my vision, etc., problems from MS makes it impossible. One of these days Maybe I can be driven to the D.C. show.
The 308 fits every Ahab ever made and SOME of the more recent production Neponset pens. As it is threaded and is screwed on to seal with the existing seal of either pen (or a wrap of teflon tape if the seal was lost or broken over the years and you can't get a replacement for some reason), yet it will NOT work on the disposable cartridge pens that pierce a cartridge "one time only".
I actually tried to make a universal design several years ago that would fit all the existing cartridge units with a reloadable/non-disposable cartridge, but was threatened with a lawsuit. I get the feeling some of those people are profoundly hostile to everything Noodler's....a few of them began their anti-Noodler's campaign before we even had the product available on a shelf for sale! With "friends" like that - who needs....?
Well I will definitely be getting an Ahab brush pen, and the refillable cartridge when I am able. I have some older pens I will probably sell, now that I am learning and seeing better on the computer.
Brilliant idea. Will the .308 cartridge also fit other Noodler's pens or just the Ahab?
Neponset pens, production as of a few months ago....if the Neponset is prior production, one can ream out the barrel if one knows how and is skilled at that. The tolerances of earlier Neponset barrels are just too tight for the 308. It was thought the extra material made the barrels stronger in case they were stepped on, driven over, or fell out of a building. If I could have predicted the future, that decision would have been different at the time. ;-(
Please let me know if you ever invent and market a reliable, working, crystal ball!! :)
i have question about the breather tube ... what happens if i damage or misplace the breather tube is it nessessary for the pen to be able to continue on or is there replacements ?
Brilliant idea Nathan! Thanks much. What is the function of the plastic tube in the Ahab?
The breather tube has two functions: to enable the second stroke of the filler to both expel the remaining air as well as to draw an additional full stroke of ink, and secondly - to permit the expulsion of air when atmospheric pressure changes drastically (such as during a thunderstorm). Filled as an eyedropper without the breather tube or filler (as some artists do before a large project of continuous drawing), the pen can eventually experience expansion of the air bubble and excessive flow (unless refilled whenever the air bubble begins to misbehave). Whereas, with the filler and breather tube installed, such forces are far more controlled and excessive flow is unlikely. It is from the WW II design era when the breather tube common in 1930s designs was integrated with the insulated chamber (Morrison Patriot, Parker 51 aerometric, etc..). Those WW II to 1960 designs remain the state of the art in fountain pens to this day, and the Ahab integrates many of their fundamental features.
I appreciate your explanation and time in educating me[and many others too] on the well designed and functioning breather tube. btw My 308's (pkg of 5) have arrived, multiple colors here I come lol. Maybe the next evolution of the 308 is the 315, universal cartridge to fit most fountain pens(just a thought). Thank you so much.
First time I saw this video, I thought: hmm that's pretty cool I just don't think I have a use for it. 2 days later: Yaaaa, I'm gonna need all the 308 stock you haveeee, thankssss. :)
Question, Is it safe to assume there are no animal products in Noodler's Inks?
There is plant material (cellulose/cotton in some biodegradable plastics, latex from rubber trees in ebonite,) involved, but NO animal matter. Even Whaleman's Sepia only mimics the whaler's squid ink of the 19th century...the original from that bygone era I do not consider as good an ink anyway as the modern. No squid are ever involved in its formation... ;-)
Great, thanks!
Does the brush pen work on whiteboards with the waterase inks? I tried to get my teachers into them a few years back, but kids playing around with eyedropper'd preppies sometimes made a mess, and this looks like the perfect solution.
The waterase inks like plexiglass and lexan.
However, many white boards are "melamine". They can bead up on some of the melamine writing surfaces that are generally used with chemical (aka, not water based) solvent inks. Once the administration installs them, chemical solvent inks become a requirement.
The goal of waterase inks was to avoid the need for those solvents and vapors - and the more costly disposable nature of those marking pens, but they still function most effectively on plexiglass and lexan. If a plexiglass window is available...it can become a re-usable writing surface with either a brush pen or felt tip eyedropper.
They've worked on the whiteboards I've tried them on, and seem to clean fine barring being left on for weeks, though ammonia still works for that. The other surfaces may be better and cheaper, but it would probably be a much harder sell to schools that already have whiteboards.
On the other hand, I have wallpapered my dorm room with these PVC presentation covers (www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KW8G7BQ) that the waterase inks do very well on. I think I'll try a brush with it sometime.
That is very interesting! Thank you for contributing that information. I did not even think to try those.
Where/when are the 308 cartridges available?
There are a few available in San Francisco right now and I believe any US Noodler's dealer will be able to order them starting tomorrow. They are also going to be available in the UK within a day or two.
carts are cool, roller tip kinda janky
Question, could I get them in 8mm mauser? I'm a little traditional.
M1A and M14 - nothing German...sorry.
Way too much information...Presenter should clean his hands thoroughly... marketing idea is good Implementation not so good
My apologies for inky fingers and not being part of the professional Madison Avenue elite.... I simply have an allergy to Corporate America.
accepted...
Thanks I will look into these cartridges. I have been using your Inks now for a while and just bought an Ahab from Pure Pens.Do the cartridges just slot onto the ebonite feed as is or do they need to be sealed with some silicone grease to prevent leakage?