The Expanse 5x09 Reaction

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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2024

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  • @Rembreiker_lychec9257
    @Rembreiker_lychec9257 2 роки тому +31

    To explain why a firefight was a bad idea when the guards first came, the book author pointed out that Clarissa, Erich and Amos were all at the front, so pretty much guaranteed they get caught in crossfire. If any of them go down, the shuttle is a no go anyway. So yeah, letting them walk was better.

    • @CaesiusX
      @CaesiusX 2 роки тому +2

      Hey, thanks for that. 😎👍

  • @daffyduck3773
    @daffyduck3773 2 роки тому +42

    Don't forget to watch post credit tease after episode 10 . There is one after 6x06 as well and reminder to watch 5 mini episodes in bonus x rays for season 6 . First 5 episodes each have one . You will enjoy them . I could bet 3 and 4 will be your favorite .

  • @michaelthorsen5354
    @michaelthorsen5354 2 роки тому +21

    "I will NOT be a party to this!" In rapid succession every nonmilitary individual stands up and walks out on Paster and his intransigent one-track mind. Sometimes it just takes one person to quit the herd.

  • @tylerboyce4081
    @tylerboyce4081 2 роки тому +19

    "We're growing the tribe." I mean, that's basically what civilization is, yes.

    • @Mansplainer2099-jy8ps
      @Mansplainer2099-jy8ps 2 роки тому

      No, you're thinking of society. Civilization is when you bring lies into it.

    • @fakecubed
      @fakecubed 2 роки тому +2

      Beware of any ideology that keeps wanting to divide the tribe into smaller and smaller pieces. Like, you know, intersectionality.

  • @pgreen0001
    @pgreen0001 2 роки тому +14

    I found this on screen rant as to why he calls her Peaches. I knew the first part but not the second.
    Amos' source of inspiration for this nickname and his reason for using it are two entirely separate things. "Peaches" is a play on Clarissa's alias in The Expanse season 3. Before being outed as the vengeful daughter of Jules Pierre Mao, Clarissa went undercover as Melba Koh in order to exact her revenge on Holden. When she later contacts Amos from jail, he answers with "Melba?" and she corrects him, saying "please, Clarissa." Of course, Amos ignores her request and opts for Peaches instead. This is inspired by Clarissa's former pseudonym, with peach melba being a famous dessert comprised of peaches and ice cream.
    However, the Clarissa's new moniker is far more than just a simple pet name for someone Amos is fond of. Amos wants Clarissa to let go of her past, stop punishing herself for past crimes, and find a way to move on. Once Amos decides to be Clarissa's knight in shining armor, he begins calling her Peaches to help her disassociate from the past of "Clarissa." A new name for a new start. Amos did exactly the same many years prior. On Earth, Amos was known as Timothy, but switched to "Amos Burton" when escaping for a new life in space. Now he wants Clarissa to have the same fresh start by washing away her old name and coming up with something new for the future.

  • @mella4376
    @mella4376 2 роки тому +35

    Not only was Clarissa morally right to defuse the situation (which is the main point, of course), she was also tactically right: Amos was out in front with no protection whatsoever, they would have won the shootout but he would have died for sure. Good luck getting off planet then. Plus they didn't know whether there were already snipers in the trees. Things went to shit, sure, but she wasn't being foolish by trying to delay the fight.

    • @SonicBoyster
      @SonicBoyster 2 роки тому +2

      Was she morally right? You've got a group of murderous raiders who are exploiting and murdering people struggling to survive, and you have the position and firepower to stop them while protecting yourself from the inevitable assault. Is doing "nothing" and running away really the moral action to take?

    • @AL-fl4jk
      @AL-fl4jk 2 роки тому

      @@SonicBoyster the reality was her group was giving her one other option, being killing theme all so take your pick.

    • @remliqa
      @remliqa 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@SonicBoyster
      If shoot out happened right there and then the best they would have done was kill those few guys that came to "negotiate", pretty pointless . As we can see from the night assault they have plenty of men back where they came from so it wouldn't' change anything, except getting a few of their own people (including Amos) injured or killed earlier .

    • @CaesiusX
      @CaesiusX 2 роки тому

      @@SonicBoyster I suppose that could be seen as subjective, sure. However, Clarissa has seen first hand what it means to not kill someone that you wanted dead. Not just Holden, but herself. She could have been killed for what she did. But allowing her to live gave her an opportunity to turn her life around. So perhaps when she sees an opportunity to give that same chance to others, she wants to give it to them. So, in that sense, I'd say it was the _moral_ choice. How others use the chance she gives them, is up to them.

    • @fakecubed
      @fakecubed 2 роки тому +3

      Morally she was right, but tactically they should have shot all those guys in the back when they turned around and started walking away. No one would have died in the crossfire because all the fire would've been in one direction. Perhaps they suspected there were other security nearby waiting, and later we know they had at least one sniper. But at that point in the story there was no real reason to expect that and it's probably likely the security were spread out around the island going to all the other houses at that time.

  • @jamesholland5761
    @jamesholland5761 2 роки тому +10

    I have checked several times every day waiting for your Expanse reaction! You two got me so hooked on your journey!!
    Another great reaction ladies!
    Cara Gee playing Drummer absolutely deserves an Emmy as well as Dominique Tipper for this season! Absolutely beautiful performance!
    Next one is a very difficult one, I know you two have already seen by this time. But please try to remember that it takes a whole team to bring a character to life, and separate that from the actor. As I am looking forward to your reaction to the season five finale! It will be difficult. 💔

  • @jfu6413
    @jfu6413 2 роки тому +7

    About the Drummer - Naomi dynamic, even the writers said Naomi is not a “sharing” kind of lover. Where as we see in this season Drummer isn’t down with monogamy. They never would of have worked out long.

  • @NewAeonWarlord
    @NewAeonWarlord 2 роки тому +4

    The thing about Chrisjen inviting Admiral Delgado into her Cabinet is: She knows him, he is very competent and he is someone with a different viewpoint than herself AND now she is in charge (as opposed when Paster was in charge) so he doesn't just get his way. Instead she will be able to profit from his skillset.

  • @billross7245
    @billross7245 2 роки тому +5

    Amos: "The way I see it, there’s only three kinds of people in this world. Bad ones, ones you follow, and ones you need to protect." I believe some of Amos rubbed off on Clarissa.

  • @libarax
    @libarax Рік тому +1

    This truly is a fantastic show, always great to see your freactions!

  • @Pandaemoni
    @Pandaemoni 2 роки тому +4

    Drummer is not protecting just a "crew", as that is her family. They are in effect all married to each other. As for why Marco was sending ships to attach the Rocinante, it's because he doesn't know that Naomi hasn't defused the bomb...Marco has, I think, faith that Naomi will foil his plan because he knows her.

  • @IanHillan
    @IanHillan 2 роки тому +3

    Fun fact. The Expanse won a Hugo award for S5E10. 😁

  • @rememberthecant7692
    @rememberthecant7692 2 роки тому +4

    Her previous fake name was melba , that's why amos call her peaches... " Peach Melba "

  • @Dj2xP
    @Dj2xP 2 роки тому +5

    Do you really believe nobody would notify Avasarala if her husband was in a hospital? Or even if they had a fight that Arjun would not let her know he is alive? Or even that her daughters would let her know, since we know they made it out alive..? Arjun is most definitely dead.

    • @fakecubed
      @fakecubed 2 роки тому +2

      Enough time had passed. If he was alive he would've been found. Even unconscious he would have been identified. He probably drowned, and his body washed away. He might be buried under rubble, but any voids would have also been flooded.

  • @pgreen0001
    @pgreen0001 2 роки тому +3

    Great reaction. Here is what you girls are missing as far as Marco’s intentions. It would make no sense for him to go through the ring and close it because there is nothing on that side other than resources he can sell to Earth and Mars. Trying to restart a civilization with planets you can’t live on isn’t a good idea. And trying to restart a spaced civilization with a few ships makes no sense.
    Everything he needs is already created in the Sol system so he just wants the belt with him as leader controlling that. It’s much easier to take something that already exist than to start over from scratch. The logistics alone.
    Also, I don’t if you noticed the marks on the wall is her calculating how many times she has opened the door. She has calculated the volume of air left in the pressurized cockpit and everytime she opens the door she loses oxygen so she knows she can only go out so many times before she has no oxygen left in the cockpit. Amazing!

  • @mehlev
    @mehlev 2 роки тому +10

    I haaaate Oksana. Her throwing out that "do you love her more than us" bullshit is such emotional blackmail and is so manipulative. Drummer deserves a partner who is ride or die like Naomi & James are for eachother, I feel so sad for her in these episodes.

  • @bartschaap6236
    @bartschaap6236 2 роки тому +1

    "If life trancends death, I will seek you there. If not, then there too"

  • @danbadd
    @danbadd 2 роки тому +2

    You said Amos led the pack because he's the bravest one, but bravery is action in the face of fear, and Amos doesn't feel fear. Amos isn't brave.. he's fearless.

  • @SciFiCatGuy
    @SciFiCatGuy 2 роки тому +2

    “If life transcends death. Then I will seek for you there. If not, then there too." 《《《♡》》》
    ~James S. A. Corey

  • @SciFiCatGuy
    @SciFiCatGuy 2 роки тому +1

    ***BOOK SPOILER***
    Minor spoiler, just in case you don't read the books.....
    Erich, and what's left of his crew, go through the ring and end up on a planet called Auberon, being colonized by Inners, where he becomes the most powerful crime lord on the planet.

  • @StuartGreenley
    @StuartGreenley 2 роки тому +2

    Intro got a little heated 🔥… great work Gals!

  • @sebastiansierrajaramillo9872
    @sebastiansierrajaramillo9872 2 роки тому +1

    Yes! The Guns N Roses shirt is back! 😎

  • @richb313
    @richb313 2 роки тому

    Thanks for posting this.

  • @suny6427
    @suny6427 2 роки тому

    Where are you from?

  • @saviourself687
    @saviourself687 2 роки тому +10

    "I hate the point of this"
    I sympathise, but you're sitting in a comfortable room watching a tv show rather than on a planet that has been bombed with an near extinction level event. Billions are going to die from starvation/cold etc and help isn't coming.
    The tribal story is basically accurate, when your tribe is on the verge of death, you will do things you never thought possible in times of peace to survive.
    "We're not supposed to be killing people, but... oh well"
    Yup... The people you identify with (your tribe) kill a bunch of people in self defense, and it's acceptable. Charity is one of the first things that goes away in a survival situation.
    Oh yeah, Naomi isn't amazing because she's a woman. She's amazing because she's intelligent, savvy, adaptable and most importantly, she never gives up. The actress playing her does an amazing job of course.
    Avasarala refusing to attack Ceres isn't because she's a good person, it's because she assesses the situation and comes to the conclusion that it won't pay off. Remember she used gravity torture in the first season on the belter courier? Her being a woman has nothing to do with her decision, she's a brutal pragmatist who puts Earth first and has a lot of blood on her hands. You are kidding yourself if you think she wouldn't sacrifice civilians if it worked in her favour.

    • @remliqa
      @remliqa 2 роки тому +4

      She used to be this brutal pragmatist that does not value the lives of ANY non Earther above Earth's interest, not anymore. I doubt Season 5 Avisarala would have stoop to gravity torture anymore than Season 5 Bobbie wanting an all out war with Earth.

    • @androkguz
      @androkguz 2 роки тому +1

      After thinking about it for months after the events, I realized that Earth *did* had to nuke some important or relevant belter spot and kill a bunch of innocents
      The idea that killing an innocent gave inaros 10 loyals wasn't exactly the whole truth. There's many other belters who were using the "earth is gonna kill us" reasoning to reject Marco. If the most savage massacre on human history is not responded with some level of terrifying strength, then the message that earth is broke and weak becomes transparently clear
      I think avasaralla's take was the correct one *after* bombing pallas, though. Destroy Pallas and then spin it as a localized event. Destroying Pallas *is* strangely enough still descalation

  • @Luke_uppx
    @Luke_uppx 2 роки тому

    Have you ever seen the TV series "Normal People"?

  • @remliqa
    @remliqa 2 роки тому +1

    42:12 If we didn't listen to opinion of former Nazi member , we would not have many of current tech especially in regard to space exploration. Lets not forget that bothy the Allies and Soviet mass recruited form Nazi scientist (Wernher von Braun eg ) after the end of the war.

    • @macattackmicmac
      @macattackmicmac 2 роки тому +2

      It's one thing to ask for technical details, it's another to ask Nazis for their opinion on political strategy. Von Braun and co certainly accelerated the US space program, but we would still have achieved regular spaceflight without them.

    • @remliqa
      @remliqa 2 роки тому +1

      @@macattackmicmac
      Technical details such as military strategy/tactics are exactly the type of thing where Delgado's inputs could been very useful. His position on the council would be of military importance rather than a political one (though any position of power is political in nature)
      While is is true that spaceflight is an eventuality even without the Nazi scientist's contribution, we (not just the US but the entire world) would be decades (if not almost a century) behind without them. That would also apply for tech that piggyback on them such as satellites, solar power, electronic miniaturisation etc.

    • @macattackmicmac
      @macattackmicmac 2 роки тому

      The strike in discussion shows exactly why Delgado should not be making the call. He's not intelligence or some expert in human behavior. He might be able to lead a fleet to battle, but that's not expertise which is relevant in that situation.
      We would not be anywhere near a century behind in spaceflight. At most the moon landing would have been delayed a decade, but even then the other advances in the mean time, mean we would probably be largely in the same position today.

    • @remliqa
      @remliqa 2 роки тому +1

      @@macattackmicmac Being in the council doesn't man Delgado will be makin that call, that authority lies solely on the Sec Gen( which would be Avisarala) . What he would instead was offer tactical and strategical insight and suggestion , all that can be overruled by the civilian leadership ( remember when Admiral Souther's own suggestion was overruled in favour of destroying one of the Martian moons?)
      This is where you are wrong. The manned moon landing was a "panic" response to how successful the Soviet space program was at that time. Just like the American they too decided to snatch as many Nazi scientist and expertise as they can. While they were less successful at gathering scientists (for obvious reasons) they manage to acquire most of the blueprint , test and documentation (as well as prototypes) of German space technology. They used them to jumpstart their on space industry which forced the Americans to also ramped up (and suing Von Braun an other German scientist more extensively. So you see the space race would not have even started if not for those Nazi scientist and tech that both he sides acquired .
      Another thing you need to remember that they was actually very little public and pollical support for space exploration in the US at that time. Just few decades earlier prominent publication were shaming and denouncing Robert H. Goddard's "pseudoscience" 9 they claim rockets can't travel in space and would break the lase of physics). Even at the time of the Apollo , the pubic support was actually low. The high funding (relative to today) and emphasis was only possible due to the threat of Soviet Rocketry . Both this perceived threat and US response would not be possible without those German scientist and tech.
      So no, I stand by what I said about how we would be decades behind . Heck, we probably would not have landed a person on the moon today is that alternate timeline.

    • @macattackmicmac
      @macattackmicmac 2 роки тому

      @@remliqa So what your saying is that the space race and the key reason for the development had nothing to do with von Braun and all to do with some no name scientist the Soviet's capture? You're forgetting the fact that the Soviets already had rocket artillery and there's no reason to suggest they wouldn't have tried to develop that further into ballistic missiles.
      As for Delgado vs Souther, Souther quits because he sees the strike as an escalation that will lead to more death, Delgado is calling for strikes not because of some tactical or to save lives, he does it for revenge.

  • @Chris-Lynch
    @Chris-Lynch 2 роки тому

    If you want a couple of suggestions of shows you can’t go wrong with and make for great reactions:
    Fortitude (especially series 1) - (only problem is it might be tricky to find so you may have to buy it {or torrent it!})
    Altered Carbon (again, especially series 1, and it’s on Netflix)
    They’re both some of the best TV I’ve ever seen!

  • @ghostnote-6
    @ghostnote-6 2 роки тому

    18:38 Noooooooo, not possible 😂

  • @thebigboo5
    @thebigboo5 Місяць тому

    Amazing episode, amazing reaction... I need to go to bed... But... One... More... Episode...

  • @suvrojit2004
    @suvrojit2004 2 роки тому +1

    Why the hell did you guys stopped reacting to the boys

  • @tomiselepe7066
    @tomiselepe7066 2 роки тому

    I am gonna miss these two Amos/Peaches homicidal squad. The many persons these girls wanna maime and murder keep increasing in every episode.

  • @icholas1527
    @icholas1527 2 роки тому +5

    I found Drummer's girlfriend to be the least likeable character of season 5.

    • @Pandaemoni
      @Pandaemoni 2 роки тому +1

      Technically they are all married to one another, so Michio is one of Drummer's wives.

    • @mella4376
      @mella4376 2 роки тому +6

      @@Pandaemoni I assume they are referring to Oksana and not Best Girl Michio, but you are not wrong

    • @ghostnote-6
      @ghostnote-6 2 роки тому +3

      Would you want your, in effect, spouse, to risk your family's life to save their ex? I don't love her character, but I understand her. And if we were following her story instead, we'd likely be on her side completely.

    • @Demi_Purple
      @Demi_Purple 2 роки тому +3

      @@ghostnote-6 perhaps this would be a question with more narrative weight if Drummer's polyamory crew got any more focus besides what we got. Besides the occasional moment, they were mostly just annoying (imo).
      They weren't developed enough to make us believe they deserved to mean more to Drummer than Naomi, when Naomi goes much farther back.

    • @ghostnote-6
      @ghostnote-6 2 роки тому

      @@Demi_Purple For sure they could have spent more time on developing that aspect of the story. But I think there was enough legwork done that the viewers can at least understand where they're coming from. In Oksana's eyes, Drummer was putting the lives of Naomi's friends (Earthers and Martians at that!) over that of her own family. She chose to commit to a path that not only killed Belters, but that would certainly lead to the death of Serge, and put targets on all their backs. I'm glad that she did it, but it's not hard to see why Oksana isn't. When it's that clearcut, I find it hard to fault a character just because they're at cross-purposes to our protagonists.
      As far as unlikeable characters this season, I'd have to put Marco, Fillip, Paster, Gao, Delgado, Karal, and Erich (just really disliked the performance) ahead of Oksana. But what's great about this show is that I can still find things about each of them to empathize with as well. Up until this moment I hadn't even considered who I liked least. That would have to be Karal. She was just too one-note. Spite.

  • @marcB420
    @marcB420 2 роки тому

    🥰🥰

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    @karlkarl7856 2 роки тому

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    @yoarnahuellazarosangama8593 2 роки тому

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    @ralphrusllamiel7461 2 роки тому

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  • @martensjd
    @martensjd 2 роки тому

    That shuttle has an unrealistically tough airlock door.

    • @Pandaemoni
      @Pandaemoni 2 роки тому +10

      I don't know, it has to be designed to potentially survive micrometeorite strikes, and those generally travel faster than bullets (even 80+ times as fast).

    • @remliqa
      @remliqa 2 роки тому +4

      Based on what we know of current (2022) space craft design: not really , it seem rather realistic.

    • @garethking5322
      @garethking5322 2 роки тому +7

      I mean it's not a car door. It's a door that has to keep out meteorites, and radiation. Today we would make it out of lead. They probably have a high performing composite.

    • @michaelthorsen5354
      @michaelthorsen5354 2 роки тому +3

      Plus it's a double layer pane. The outer took the damage while the inner stayed tight.
      In the end, though, Erich taught the security guards a valuable lesson: Never bring a gun to a nuke fight.

  • @SystemError62
    @SystemError62 2 роки тому

    DJ Khaled - Another one 😜

  • @JDMunoz-ct9xn
    @JDMunoz-ct9xn 8 місяців тому

    Y'all really need sh tws on every video.

  • @jasondolph2785
    @jasondolph2785 2 роки тому

    It is so strange seeing people not in suits wearing a watch.

  • @karlkarl7856
    @karlkarl7856 2 роки тому

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