Okay so they are saying black Piet is black because of chimney soot, but from the tradition I just saw the toys are left outside and no one comes down a chimney. So, makes no sense or did I miss something?
@@galadriel4017 I think I’ll leave it up to the POC in their country to decide whether it is racist or not. It’s easy to make snap judgements from a different perspective. To me, it is. However I don’t live there. And can’t presume to understand what POC there feel about it.
@@jamesgavern2084 The black people in the Netherlands are migrants so they have no say in this. Some like it, some hate it, their opinion is not important.
Man when I was young, as Indonesia adopts a lot of Dutch's culture, this Sinterklaas and Zwarte Piet brought nothing but horror 🤣🤣🤣 well Sinterklaas was the good cop with present tho. But those Zwarte Piet, man oh man hahahaha
I'm black and I believe 99% of the Dutch intend no harm when wearing Schwartz Pete costume. This tradition should be celebrated and used to teach White and Black children about the dark history
Sophia Fortuin - She says to teach the children about the dark history. What is the dark history? The dark history is the racism and slavery reflected in the Dutch Zwarte Piet tradition! Dark history means bad things that happened in the past that hopefully we can all learn to never repeat!
@@soof4609 Words and customs that portray one set of people poorly affect the people being portrayed poorly. What is 'racism' anyway? Some people think of it only as something overt like someone phisically hitting another but it goes far deeper than that.
@@hellokitty524 I think most people think of history of colonial exploitation of colored people with nostalgia and do not want to see the dark side to it. If the intention was to teach, they would have been doing that a long time ago.
@@saulcontrerasOfficial because he goes trough a chimney to deliver presents. Chimneys are filthy so thats why. But most times it was just to stay anonymous. For example, an old friend of mine his dad was a black pete. If he didn't have the black face, he would be recognized
@@saulcontrerasOfficial I must add that I grew up without the redlips and earrings and hair. Btw, dont suddenly put blame on me for any of this im only 15. And nowadays we only have black pete's in those weird nazi village's that are more racist than russia.
@Caramel Queen No, your racism is directly, not hidden, straight in the face. And can be publicly seen all over the USA in the form of segregation, worse than in SA during Apartheid.
@@sheeptards097 not realy you just make it racist no one thought of it as racist until people screamed about it they are black becasue of the chimmney now there are also color petes to satisfie the people. just becasue something is black doesnt make it racist stop making victims out of everything. and if youj think salvery is something only black people exsprienced then you are a idiot. its a world wide thing and every color has exsprienced and are still exspriencing it but you dont hear people about that fucking hypocrits
I am British, and I love the tradition of SintaarKlass and Black Pete. It is tradition for Dutch children who know nothing of racism. Our traditions in the UK don't have such 'helpers' but don't assume that young children are racists....
This tradition is offensive to the people of color in Holland. I saw this visiting my girlfriend in the Netherlands. Blackface is now banned throughout Holland. As for Saint Nicolas he was born in Myra, Turkey and became a Bishop, was Canonized and of Greek heritage. Saint Nicolas spread throughout the world. The European Dutch brought Saint Nicolas, SinterKlass to America. Saint Nicolas’ name morphed in to different names through Children’s books and stories. Xmas a beloved holiday steeped in tradition. Christmas on Dec 25, came about during Constantine’s Reign 3rd Century. AD.
It’s not banned completely, only in the major cities in the western part of the country where PEOPLE OF COLAH live. Thankfully we can maintain this wonderful tradition in most areas
Je schrijft of Nederlands, of Engels. Niet Sinterklaas en Black Pete. Het is Saint Nicholaus and Bogeyman, hoewel ik ook een voorstander ben van Black Pete. Maar ja, de dikke van Dale weet het beter. En als je Sinteklaas vertaald wordt het Santa Claus, en dat is de Kerstman.
You are right, so? It is still up to the native Dutch to decide over what they do with it. If they want to do this than you have the right to feel offended but not to intervene.
I don’t know what’s being taught to the majority of these people protesting, I think the truth needs to be told about who is “Swarthy Pete”. From everything I’ve gather from it up to this point, swarthy Pete is a Moor from Spain. According to Wikipedia he’s also a page. one historical definition of Page is a boy in training for Knighthood rank before a squire in personal attendance to a Knight. A page can also be an attendant of a person of rank. So with me finding out just that bit of information about Swarthy Pete, I can’t get mad in any way shape or form about any dressing this way and celebrating Sinteerklass. I think it’s more offensive to say they are that color because they are going down chimneys and their clothes are not sooty.
Funny thing is that in our official national tourism campaign its called Holland aswell. Guess our poorly educated tourism industry folks just send people to touristic places but dont know our history.. Its pretty laughable🙈
Thank you for your opinion. You have the freedom to express it like the Dutch have the freedom to not consider your opinion and celebrate this anyway. it is their country. You have therefor no seat at the negotiation table. Fascinating, all these people who don't even live in the Netherlands and who aren't even Dutch but who think they have the right to decide over this because of their feelings and their arrogance. ...speaking of neo-colonial attitudes, the pot sure calls the kettle black.
@PSV Fan Your Zwarte Pete and Goliwog candies and dolls are offensive, denigrating, demoralizing caricatures of the phenotypes of people with African descent. It is pure white supremacist racism. Your colonial hangover is showing.
@@sailormoon9885 wy if something is black its a bad thing?? wy cant something be black and at the same time not be linked to slavery. you know slavery is not tied to the colonial past it happend to every color every race in every time period. there were times it was mutch bigger like in the roman empire or the mongols or the chinese.
@@sailormoon9885 Why can’t Pete be black? What’s wrong with that? Your silly words are the result of severe mental abuse and perfectly fit the profile of a cult member. It stems from the obsolete and degenerate marxist ideology. Furthermore, the nowadays Sinterklaas narrative is a mix of a variety of historical facts and myths that don’t matter at all for the event as it is celebrated today. The kidnapping of children by black Pete comes from the history of African slave traders that kidnapped European Mediterranean people for their business. And the bishop of Mira is known for freeing black people from slavery. So, it’s not at all a one sided history. But you probably don’t give a flying F, because you’re a commie. They don’t care about facts.
Here cuz of Atlanta season 3
King: dear santa, my wish to this christmas is to have a free labor force.
lmao
I'm not Anti-Blackface Black Pete, but I admit I do like the Purple Face variant.
I like black
are they black face because of the soot? because they are climbing chimneys etc?
Please visit www.hollandholiday.net. The site contains all the information about this subject.
Okay so they are saying black Piet is black because of chimney soot, but from the tradition I just saw the toys are left outside and no one comes down a chimney. So, makes no sense or did I miss something?
You are right. still it doesn't matter. they celebrate this in their country so only they deserve a seat at the negotiation table.
It’s racist
@@galadriel4017 I think I’ll leave it up to the POC in their country to decide whether it is racist or not. It’s easy to make snap judgements from a different perspective. To me, it is. However I don’t live there. And can’t presume to understand what POC there feel about it.
I’m from there and I’m telling you it’s racist, plus it’s self explanatory when you look at the features
@@jamesgavern2084 The black people in the Netherlands are migrants so they have no say in this. Some like it, some hate it, their opinion is not important.
“They all have the Same name” nooooo we have “paardenpiet” “hoofdpiet” etc HAHAHA
Ah en Danspiet, coole piet, profpiet, etc xD (En natuurlijk, Party Piet Pablo hé)
@@belgicain5283 hij ia engels
And racisme Pete!!!!
@@transqueen3551 and stop making everyone and everything a problem pete
@@transqueen3551 please chill ua-cam.com/video/6MQ_XtsrRkQ/v-deo.html
Black Peet. I love this
Truth tad weird lol I love how people playing it off like it's not lol 😆 😂 😅 🤣
Man when I was young, as Indonesia adopts a lot of Dutch's culture, this Sinterklaas and Zwarte Piet brought nothing but horror 🤣🤣🤣 well Sinterklaas was the good cop with present tho. But those Zwarte Piet, man oh man hahahaha
I'm black and I believe 99% of the Dutch intend no harm when wearing Schwartz Pete costume. This tradition should be celebrated and used to teach White and Black children about the dark history
Run Run Shaw thank you finally someone who thinks we arent racist
Sophia Fortuin - She says to teach the children about the dark history. What is the dark history? The dark history is the racism and slavery reflected in the Dutch Zwarte Piet tradition! Dark history means bad things that happened in the past that hopefully we can all learn to never repeat!
@@soof4609 Words and customs that portray one set of people poorly affect the people being portrayed poorly. What is 'racism' anyway? Some people think of it only as something overt like someone phisically hitting another but it goes far deeper than that.
@@hellokitty524 I think most people think of history of colonial exploitation of colored people with nostalgia and do not want to see the dark side to it. If the intention was to teach, they would have been doing that a long time ago.
@@hellokitty524 ua-cam.com/video/6MQ_XtsrRkQ/v-deo.html
Very nice tradition
RASISME tradition
Its still my favorite holiday
Okay, but why have a blackface guy?
@@saulcontrerasOfficial because he goes trough a chimney to deliver presents. Chimneys are filthy so thats why. But most times it was just to stay anonymous. For example, an old friend of mine his dad was a black pete. If he didn't have the black face, he would be recognized
@@jurmobile9747 his hair gets curly and he gets red lips through the chiminney too? It's obviously based on blackface.
@@saulcontrerasOfficial I must add that I grew up without the redlips and earrings and hair. Btw, dont suddenly put blame on me for any of this im only 15. And nowadays we only have black pete's in those weird nazi village's that are more racist than russia.
@@jurmobile9747 I'm not blaming you for anything
6 december is st nicholas day, not because of his birthday but it is the day of his death.
Dutch Man what day the the boat come in is it in November or December
@@nahilltop The second week of November
@Caramel Queen Now you are being racist!
@Caramel Queen No, your racism is directly, not hidden, straight in the face.
And can be publicly seen all over the USA in the form of segregation, worse than in SA during Apartheid.
It is Holland's business and their culture, others should leave them alone!!!
Fuck there holiday bitch
This some racist ass shit
@@sheeptards097 not realy you just make it racist no one thought of it as racist until people screamed about it they are black becasue of the chimmney now there are also color petes to satisfie the people. just becasue something is black doesnt make it racist stop making victims out of everything. and if youj think salvery is something only black people exsprienced then you are a idiot. its a world wide thing and every color has exsprienced and are still exspriencing it but you dont hear people about that fucking hypocrits
@@mardtdevisser1189 RACIST CONFIRMED 💯💯
@@sheeptards097 my god can you just scream?? you have zero subtance.
IDIOT CONFIRMED!!!
There face is not painted black they are black
Karen Denne nopee Paint in muslim and live in netherlands i know better Sinterklaas is a muslim turk
@@berdekoc5974 He was black.
I just love the idea of this, that Black Netherlanders have genuinely sharpie marker black skin and stop sign red lips.
Bagus banget ya .....
I am British, and I love the tradition of SintaarKlass and Black Pete. It is tradition for Dutch children who know nothing of racism. Our traditions in the UK don't have such 'helpers' but don't assume that young children are racists....
Clearly, you are white
Datang ke Indonesia juga dong
Black Pete is some one dressed up so it's just sinterklaas
Bagus ya di holland
This tradition is offensive to the people of color in Holland. I saw this visiting my girlfriend in the Netherlands. Blackface is now banned throughout Holland.
As for Saint Nicolas he was born in Myra, Turkey and became a Bishop, was Canonized and of Greek heritage. Saint Nicolas spread throughout the world. The European Dutch brought Saint Nicolas, SinterKlass to America. Saint Nicolas’ name morphed in to different names through Children’s books and stories. Xmas a beloved holiday steeped in tradition. Christmas on Dec 25, came about during Constantine’s Reign 3rd Century. AD.
Also before St Niklas was used for this holiday it was Odin and his horse Sleipnir
It’s not banned completely, only in the major cities in the western part of the country where PEOPLE OF COLAH live. Thankfully we can maintain this wonderful tradition in most areas
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Stop by visiting and getting easily offended then ?
yes it is offensive. so? it is still up to the native Dutch to decide over what they do with it.
Day 6 our 6 month 6 July is lion of juda .
He is a good black man
The real history behind this is sick and to celebrate it like it’s a jolly Holliday is crazy
You misunderstood and are complaining about something you don't understand.
Bagus banget ya
Je schrijft of Nederlands, of Engels. Niet Sinterklaas en Black Pete. Het is Saint Nicholaus and Bogeyman, hoewel ik ook een voorstander ben van Black Pete. Maar ja, de dikke van Dale weet het beter. En als je Sinteklaas vertaald wordt het Santa Claus, en dat is de Kerstman.
I m spanish and had No idea about this xD
Im Dutch: ik hou van sinterklaas! Im not English.
👍 Black Pete 👍
wtf does a carrot do in the fucking boot
Shit my kid just watched this
Sinter Klaus big deal in Holland! Happy st. Nicklias day everyone. Which I could be there !
This is racist af man and highly offense and not to mention cringey
You are right, so?
It is still up to the native Dutch to decide over what they do with it. If they want to do this than you have the right to feel offended but not to intervene.
@@spraakkanon based. black people are talkign shit about white poeple on amercan media all day and nobdy gives a shit
I love this.. ❤
Look who is demonstrating against it. Leave the culture alone.
Sinterklaas was black too. Not just black Pete....
I don’t know what’s being taught to the majority of these people protesting, I think the truth needs to be told about who is “Swarthy Pete”.
From everything I’ve gather from it up to this point, swarthy Pete is a Moor from Spain. According to Wikipedia he’s also a page. one historical definition of Page is a boy in training for Knighthood rank before a squire in personal attendance to a Knight. A page can also be an attendant of a person of rank.
So with me finding out just that bit of information about Swarthy Pete, I can’t get mad in any way shape or form about any dressing this way and celebrating Sinteerklass. I think it’s more offensive to say they are that color because they are going down chimneys and their clothes are not sooty.
Zwarte*
@@marilynschipper7272 Doesn’t Matter. Means the same thing in a dictionary.
This some racist chit
Yes, so? It is also not your business. it's not you country, your street or home.
It’s still racist, that’s a fact hahahah
wrong toe ahandala wer are you
Wrong: They all have the same name: Black Pete.
Zwartepiet or Père Fouettard here in Belgium
They dont there is hoofd piet, paniek piet, malle piet they al have a different name
@@soof4609 Yeah but they are all black pieten
Patriote Belge well you are right
EN GEWOON ZWARTE MELKPIET
Never give up your national traditions! Do not cave to PC/Woke!
Holland , the country doesn't even exist........................It's a bit like saying Bavaria, when you actually meant Germany.
Funny thing is that in our official national tourism campaign its called Holland aswell. Guess our poorly educated tourism industry folks just send people to touristic places but dont know our history.. Its pretty laughable🙈
Bro yoo crazy ... wtf
Bitch you crazy i come from Holland and trust me its a real country😂😂😂
You Just denied our whole existence
Thank you for your opinion. You have the freedom to express it like the Dutch have the freedom to not consider your opinion and celebrate this anyway. it is their country. You have therefor no seat at the negotiation table.
Fascinating, all these people who don't even live in the Netherlands and who aren't even Dutch but who think they have the right to decide over this because of their feelings and their arrogance. ...speaking of neo-colonial attitudes, the pot sure calls the kettle black.
Black people are too sensitive.. just chill it's not that deep
Zwarta Pete is disgusting caricature.
@PSV Fan Your Zwarte Pete and Goliwog candies and dolls are offensive, denigrating, demoralizing caricatures of the phenotypes of people with African descent. It is pure white supremacist racism. Your colonial hangover is showing.
@@sailormoon9885 wy if something is black its a bad thing?? wy cant something be black and at the same time not be linked to slavery. you know slavery is not tied to the colonial past it happend to every color every race in every time period. there were times it was mutch bigger like in the roman empire or the mongols or the chinese.
@@mardtdevisser1189 Are you serious right now. What part of Black Face Caricature don't you understand?
@@sailormoon9885
Bla bla bla.
Commie.
@@sailormoon9885
Why can’t Pete be black? What’s wrong with that?
Your silly words are the result of severe mental abuse and perfectly fit the profile of a cult member.
It stems from the obsolete and degenerate marxist ideology.
Furthermore, the nowadays Sinterklaas narrative is a mix of a variety of historical facts and myths that don’t matter at all for the event as it is celebrated today.
The kidnapping of children by black Pete comes from the history of African slave traders that kidnapped European Mediterranean people for their business.
And the bishop of Mira is known for freeing black people from slavery.
So, it’s not at all a one sided history.
But you probably don’t give a flying F, because you’re a commie.
They don’t care about facts.