1:39 Entertainment Center 3:27 Aquarium 5:33 Cooper Street / Rutgers 8:31 Walter Rand Transportation Center 14:16 36th Street 17:19 Pennsauken Transit Center 19:47 Pennsauken / Route 73 22:44 Palmyra 24:15 Riverton 26:12 Cinnaminson 30:37 Riverside 32:24 Delanco 36:41 Beverly / Edgewater Park 40:02 Burlington South 42:23 Burlington Towne Center 48:00 Florence 51:24 Roebling 56:24 Bordentown 1:02:05 Cass Street 1:03:51 Hamilton Avenue 1:06:05 Trenton Transit Center
The engine compartment is in the middle, between the passenger cars, and has very good soundproofing. There's a passage through it, whenever someone opens the door to it, it gets really loud in the train.
Electrifying the line would have been impossible on the street-running sections in Camden (and the pseudo-street-running section in Burlington) and prohibitively expensive on the rest of the line.
Shame that the DMUs are not used on the south Jersey to Glassboro. I feel like it would be more successful there. There is still some rail to the smaller suburban towns in Jersey. Maybe light rail can be used there.
I wonder if that line to Glassboro is going to extend from the end of this line (Entertainment Center station) and maybe South Camden streets, or if it will junction in mid-Camden 10:11 and also end at the same place.
It was originally a patco expansion with the one to Burlington to also with a proposed expansion to Berlin, route 73 but north and South jersey kept fighting so much so now they’re looking for other alternatives
One good thing about The river line is that it is very quiet Especially for diesel that makes it good in neighborhoods even though you have the bells and the horn
Is it true they run freight trains on this line too? If so, SEPTA should consider a similar agreement so they could run a diesel light rail service on the NS or CSX line (I forget which one specifically) from northwestern Philly to Southeastern Philly (along the Schuylkill and up Columbus Blvd.)
I'm not sure but I assume they probably don't... but the R.O.W. is still capable of holding freight. Maybe something like a single locomotive & 3 coal cars but I'm not sure
They do. Conrail has exclusive access to the line at night, which is why River Line service only runs from about 6 AM to 10 PM. There are exceptions, like for events at the Entertainment Center in Camden.
@@fermitthekrog6318 Until about the 1950s there were PRR passenger trains on this line, and Public Service trolleys in the street. 41:06 - This in Burlington, is probably the best remnant of PRR passenger service.
@@295g295 that's true. I was just referring to more recent times as the track had degraded since then and could only handle freight trains. But there's a really cool picture of a k4 running through burlington city
The one thing that is unique to the River Line is there is no fare collection anywhere. But if Inspectors come on the train (which they do at random) and you don't have ticket you get chucked off the train at that stop. I've read this line is a money pit. Passenger Revenue only accounts for 7-10% of its operating cost. that's pretty pathetic. Seems almost pointless to run it at all. the line will never pay for itself. It uses portions of the ex-PRR/PC/Conrail Bordentown Secondary.
The only problem is that Hudson-Bergen Light Rail doesn't extend into Bergen County, Bergen and Passaic Counties could use light rail along the old NYS&W (Susquehanna Railroad) right-of-way.
I’m not goin lie they do look like they move like regular street cars or at Light rail Speed but i hate the low floor and DMU design like patco could have took most of South Jersey’s which it originally intended to do like that what it job was since it knocked down the commuter rail yard in Camden when constructed knocking out most of commuter rail service in that area into South Jersey to And North and South been fighting giving money more to the highways than transit projects for patco making it more obsolete even with these light rail, vehicles taking its routes
If that line had had to have been wired, it never would have been done at at all. The rail line already existed. It was a matter of upgrading track and buying the trains. Foreign built of course. all in all it was a fast and easy way out. The worst part is it's terminal cities, Camden and Trenton.
every *15 minutes* during 'rush hour' commuting times (about 3 hours early morning, 3 hours late afternoon), every *30 minutes* other times The double-track / passing tracks are engineered for 15 minute headways.
There are some unsavory characters who ride the line. But not enough, in my opinion, to dissuade the average law abiding citizen from riding if they want.
I rode the Riverline for a decade. It's not always bad, but I've seen fights break out, lewd behavior, open drug abuse, mentally ill people arguing with people only they can see. And on a few occasions, I've seen cockroaches crawling around.
They're different train types. The weight, size and service of the train is what makes it a light rail. It's closer to a street car, and in small sections, acts like one. Commuter trains like Metro North, LIRR, or the NJT trains out of Penn Station (for example), are considered heavy rail. They're meant for longer distances, higher speeds, and never join automobile traffic.
Joel Hidalgo, 1) This train runs only 24.5 miles 2) It doesn't need more than 2 "cars" at a time because half of the day it runs with less than 40 passengers for an entire length of 1 run. Hell, even the "PATCO High Speed Line" train runs with only 2 "40 seat cars" in the middle of the day even though that train runs from Lindenwold NJ to 4 stops in downtown Philadelphia Pa. During rush hour the High Speed Line runs with 6 cars that are 100% filled by the time the train crosses the Benjamin Franklin Bridge, but during off peak hours even that train never gets more than 50 passengers at a time for one full "one direction" run. The "Riverline" is great for those that live right along its corridor, but even they have a few bus routes to take from certain towns into certain other nearby towns.
The guy wasn't doing anything wrong, wasn't bothering a soul, wasn't in the way of anyone. Some people should mind their own damned business. That will keep them too busy to bust on other people that are just minding theirs
+It's Pat! It's the equivalent of a tram and overground in retrospect. We categorize our trams as "light rail" because it carries less patrons than our heavy rails/subways (equivalent to "underground"). Our *intrastate* commuter rails would be considered "overground" if they were in the UK. This particular transport is a *light rail/tram* but it travels along a former regional commercial railway, the reason it seems more commuter rail/overground -- even with the fact that it uses diesel-fuel unlike others using overhead electric currents. They are all the same but it's just how we title or categorize it here in the Americas than in Europe.
I kinda like to think of the River Line (and the Oceanside CA Sprinter) as a weird category of their own between commuter rail and transitional light rail
0:01- He's warming up for the train ride! Great video!
Looks like he's having sex with the concrete.
OMG OMG OMG you're in Camden that's where I live in real life
@@neon_pets Yeah. Camden does have many interesting people
How many people do it?
LOL the guy doing push-ups! That's hilarious!
I never see anybody do push ups at NJ transit train stations
I never see anybody do push ups at NJ transit train stations
He still does them. 2020
Camden vibez💫⭐✨
Right. Those “Push-ups” he was doing sure had that dude prepped for the ride (oh s***, the Drill Sergeant in me just popped out 😂😂😂)
1:39 Entertainment Center
3:27 Aquarium
5:33 Cooper Street / Rutgers
8:31 Walter Rand Transportation Center
14:16 36th Street
17:19 Pennsauken Transit Center
19:47 Pennsauken / Route 73
22:44 Palmyra
24:15 Riverton
26:12 Cinnaminson
30:37 Riverside
32:24 Delanco
36:41 Beverly / Edgewater Park
40:02 Burlington South
42:23 Burlington Towne Center
48:00 Florence
51:24 Roebling
56:24 Bordentown
1:02:05 Cass Street
1:03:51 Hamilton Avenue
1:06:05 Trenton Transit Center
I’ve taken the River Line from Trenton down to Camden to get to the aquarium. It seemed pretty convenient.
> 2:41
He is not even doing push-ups right. Hahahahahahaha
Yeah his knees are supposed to be off the ground 😂
He is *TRAIN-ING* for the train! :D Get it? *TRAIN-ING* ?
11:30 - Here at Camden/Pavonia, I like to look at the CRSA freight trains.
I don't think I've ever scene a faster light rail service than this
A lot of 'big railroad' here, very little running among street traffic.
I live in teenton nj and i enjoy this train
Thanks! You made this video at a nice time of the year, with the trees in bloom alongside the track between Cinnaminson and Eiverside.
Kekoa Bradshaw yeah
21:39
that is one one the quietest diesel train I have ever heard.
The engine compartment is in the middle, between the passenger cars, and has very good soundproofing. There's a passage through it, whenever someone opens the door to it, it gets really loud in the train.
Like he said. You can dare to open that door and walk through the pathway but you'll go deaf.
+MJofLakeland1 Challenge accepted! I'll try that when I have a chance to visit NJ
For best results, do it when the train is accelerating out of a station!
Electrifying the line would have been impossible on the street-running sections in Camden (and the pseudo-street-running section in Burlington) and prohibitively expensive on the rest of the line.
Great one ! I use it everyday to my job Riverside to Florence!
Same!
Choo choo! I'm a train and I approve this video!!!!
Shame that the DMUs are not used on the south Jersey to Glassboro. I feel like it would be more successful there. There is still some rail to the smaller suburban towns in Jersey. Maybe light rail can be used there.
I know there's a proposal to have a light rail from Camden to Glassboro.
I wonder if that line to Glassboro is going to extend from the end of this line (Entertainment Center station) and maybe South Camden streets, or if it will junction in mid-Camden 10:11 and also end at the same place.
@@295g295 I was told that Conrail was opposed to the train, so I dunno.
It was originally a patco expansion with the one to Burlington to also with a proposed expansion to Berlin, route 73 but north and South jersey kept fighting so much so now they’re looking for other alternatives
One good thing about The river line is that it is very quiet Especially for diesel that makes it good in neighborhoods even though you have the bells and the horn
0:26 That train sounds like a futuristic shuttle launch computer
Is that Philadelphia on the other side of the bridge 😄?
> 4:41 < Ben Franklin Bridge
33:09 - Normally the trains should pass each other at about here. The approaching train has been delayed.
That is correct I've seen it happen before it was towards Palmrya and Pennsauken
8:44 - Below here is a PATCO train station.
10:10 - PATCO train is in this 'hole'.
I think in the white building here is the control-room for PATCO trains.
Very informative train ride. Thanks. Unfortunate you had to deal with rather loud passengers at times.
What loud passengers there were no passengers if you’re talking about kids they are expected
Is it true they run freight trains on this line too? If so, SEPTA should consider a similar agreement so they could run a diesel light rail service on the NS or CSX line (I forget which one specifically) from northwestern Philly to Southeastern Philly (along the Schuylkill and up Columbus Blvd.)
I'm not sure but I assume they probably don't... but the R.O.W. is still capable of holding freight. Maybe something like a single locomotive & 3 coal cars but I'm not sure
on some sections they do. much of the line was originally freight before they upgraded the mainline to hold the passenger trains
They do. Conrail has exclusive access to the line at night, which is why River Line service only runs from about 6 AM to 10 PM. There are exceptions, like for events at the Entertainment Center in Camden.
@@fermitthekrog6318 Until about the 1950s there were PRR passenger trains on this line, and Public Service trolleys in the street.
41:06 - This in Burlington, is probably the best remnant of PRR passenger service.
@@295g295 that's true. I was just referring to more recent times as the track had degraded since then and could only handle freight trains. But there's a really cool picture of a k4 running through burlington city
That guy don't need to do push-ups to ride the train, just step inside and enjoy the ride
Exactly!
This was a hike for me I had to pick another job.
Burlington looks nice.
> 42:00
The one thing that is unique to the River Line is there is no fare collection anywhere. But if Inspectors come on the train (which they do at random) and you don't have ticket you get chucked off the train at that stop. I've read this line is a money pit. Passenger Revenue only accounts for 7-10% of its operating cost. that's pretty pathetic. Seems almost pointless to run it at all. the line will never pay for itself. It uses portions of the ex-PRR/PC/Conrail Bordentown Secondary.
That's like most light rail lines I've been on in terms of fares, but calling it a money put seems a bit harsh more transit is always a good thing imo
Other Light-rail in New Jersey have a similar fare system.
Not everything has to turn a profit
The ratchet characters that come on this train! Lord have mercy! They need the police permanently stationed on these trains.
a true interurban
I love the guy doing pushups
Thats my stop... BEVERLY/EDGEWATER PK lol.
> 36:40 < Beverly
@@295g295 when i visit my family, i get off there.
Does this tram works on bio-diesel? Or what? Is this diesel-electric? Thanks.
Bio-Diesel I believe
1:08 - We can see the *diesel engine* in the mid-section.
That train is "fly".
0:01 He is not doing push-ups the correct way
I figured they were some new type I didn't know about 😂😂
Dude wasn't even doing a full push up. He wasn't getting any benefit out of that.
thanks
11:58 I'm assuming that's the horn 💀
I like riding that line but its just so unfortunate the number of character you encounter on it smh.....
They should have these in north jersey
They do. The Newark Light Rail and Hudson-Bergen Light Rail are the same thing but electrified.
The only problem is that Hudson-Bergen Light Rail doesn't extend into Bergen County, Bergen and Passaic Counties could use light rail along the old NYS&W (Susquehanna Railroad) right-of-way.
I’m not goin lie they do look like they move like regular street cars or at Light rail Speed but i hate the low floor and DMU design like patco could have took most of South Jersey’s which it originally intended to do like that what it job was since it knocked down the commuter rail yard in Camden when constructed knocking out most of commuter rail service in that area into South Jersey to And North and South been fighting giving money more to the highways than transit projects for patco making it more obsolete even with these light rail, vehicles taking its routes
Who made that train?
+Lennox Alexander Francis Jr Swiss rail car manufacturer known as, *Stadler*
@@MJofLakelandX I was thinking that the power car in the middle looked Stadler-y! Was going to ask :)
That don’t look like push ups! Look like he’s humping the floor.
0:01 what is he doing exerciseing?!
+Joey Radomski It's Camden what can you say. Though it's nothing new to me here in Baltimore.
+Joey Radomski It's they only way that he can get any.
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WHAT?!?! They SHOULD NOT use diesel for LRT!
If that line had had to have been wired, it never would have been done at at all. The rail line already existed. It was a matter of upgrading track and buying the trains. Foreign built of course. all in all it was a fast and easy way out. The worst part is it's terminal cities, Camden and Trenton.
I thought they couldn't electrify the line because it's time-shared with freights.
There are no more electric freight engines in the area.
I hope they buy new trains with battery instead.
ha J not worth it
Is that a DMU?
Yup
MULTIPLE .. especially when two units are coupled together a few times each day. 10:36
how frequent are trains on this service?
About every 20-minutes
Hobo G lot
every *15 minutes* during 'rush hour' commuting times (about 3 hours early morning, 3 hours late afternoon), every *30 minutes* other times
The double-track / passing tracks are engineered for 15 minute headways.
Why do you make it home
Heavy duty light rail.
How is the clientele on the riverline
There are some unsavory characters who ride the line. But not enough, in my opinion, to dissuade the average law abiding citizen from riding if they want.
@@Wingnutcaseman so it is higher quality than the bus
I rode the Riverline for a decade. It's not always bad, but I've seen fights break out, lewd behavior, open drug abuse, mentally ill people arguing with people only they can see. And on a few occasions, I've seen cockroaches crawling around.
I take it it will be much better than the bus I've read in New Jersey Transit buses before and usually it's the lowest of the low @@Tazz77
Probably meeting his girlfriends parents for the first x. Lol..
diesel light rail.....kinda speechless, it's so odd to me
Diesel light rail also runs near San Diego and in Ottawa.
We do not want those eclectic wires over the tracks, especially with freight trains here too.
cool
Di seguito il tren
Dude, how come this train is so small unlike the metro north railroad
They're different train types. The weight, size and service of the train is what makes it a light rail. It's closer to a street car, and in small sections, acts like one.
Commuter trains like Metro North, LIRR, or the NJT trains out of Penn Station (for example), are considered heavy rail. They're meant for longer distances, higher speeds, and never join automobile traffic.
Joel Hidalgo,
1) This train runs only 24.5 miles
2) It doesn't need more than 2 "cars" at a time because half of the day it runs with less than 40 passengers for an entire length of 1 run.
Hell, even the "PATCO High Speed Line" train runs with only 2 "40 seat cars" in the middle of the day even though that train runs from Lindenwold NJ to 4 stops in downtown Philadelphia Pa.
During rush hour the High Speed Line runs with 6 cars that are 100% filled by the time the train crosses the Benjamin Franklin Bridge, but during off peak hours even that train never gets more than 50 passengers at a time for one full "one direction" run.
The "Riverline" is great for those that live right along its corridor, but even they have a few bus routes to take from certain towns into certain other nearby towns.
Buford Pusser it's a bit more actually. Around 34 miles
@@bufordpusser424 10:15 - I think the white building here is the PATCO control room, 'overlooking PATCO tracks.
lol ya'll are too bored hatin on a dude doin half ass push ups..he mindin his..besides..would yall hate to his face????????
and if youre watchin this...it aint bout push ups..
The guy wasn't doing anything wrong, wasn't bothering a soul, wasn't in the way of anyone. Some people should mind their own damned business. That will keep them too busy to bust on other people that are just minding theirs
I was just thinking now that's a guy making the best out of riding a train in Camden 🤣
"Light rail", no, that's an overground
+It's Pat! It's the equivalent of a tram and overground in retrospect. We categorize our trams as "light rail" because it carries less patrons than our heavy rails/subways (equivalent to "underground"). Our *intrastate* commuter rails would be considered "overground" if they were in the UK. This particular transport is a *light rail/tram* but it travels along a former regional commercial railway, the reason it seems more commuter rail/overground -- even with the fact that it uses diesel-fuel unlike others using overhead electric currents.
They are all the same but it's just how we title or categorize it here in the Americas than in Europe.
+MJofLakeland1 this is like the interurbans of yore
I kinda like to think of the River Line (and the Oceanside CA Sprinter) as a weird category of their own between commuter rail and transitional light rail
Barney and the Backyard Gang
Was this actually filmed in 2015?
3:27 Adventure Aquarium
ACS-64 Bell?
Could be. Amtrak and NJT occasionally share equipment
Hey, that's the bell from Strasburg 90!
these are several years older then the ACS-64
That's an E bell, used on many trains in North America.
This began Spring 2004.
light rail transit 8th street west side av hoboken
The train looks like a bus.
no food and drink
nice photo
no smoking guys dont like
why is this guy doing push ups
jen falls a fire to press button
Who the H E double hockey sticks does push ups in public?
Seriously, who the hell does that?
Now why in the Hell is he doing exercise in a bloody train station like an idiot.
hey,i use to ride that train for the fun of it ,now i can't which suck's because of certain family problems i'm dealing with these days.
And people wonder why I don't use public transit
@@WaterSlideLover98 because someones doing push ups on the platform?
@@markcinque106 you should go ride it man, do what makes you happy