Taiwan has huge tool making factories, chip factories, they have great steel composition formulas. But they have different levels of production, 20 years ago Snap On made Kobalt tools for Lowes, same factories, but different steel and tolerance levels.
I’ve been using ADV since 2014 and honestly couldn’t care less where it’s made or if it’s rebranded. It’s cheap, it works and the Matco guy shows up around here. In 8 years of using ADV professionally I’ve had to warranty one socket and it was my fault that it broke. I’m gonna keep using ADV and I’ll buy more as I need it because it works
I feel the same about my sunex. I've only ruined 2 sockets in 6-7 years of working in automotive. 1 8mm 1/4 gear socket. I kept putting on 7mm and rounded it off. And I cracked my gear wrench 10mm 1/4. That was after 2 year of impact abuse on a non-impact rated socket. My sunex impact sockets have never given me issues though. My 10mm 1/4 going on nearly 4 years of constantly daily abuse. Still works just as good as it did out the box. And I got it with the master 1/4 set on sale for like $200. Came with almost every 1/4 socket yould would need for baisc cars.
From a Matco dealer. He told me straight up that the gearwrench ratchets are the same internals as the Matco soft grip ratchets. Back in the day they were owned by the same company, had the same patent number and all. After researching for myself it was true. So I get where you're coming from that tools are misleading and one comparison doesn't mean it's all true across the board
The guts are not the same hate to break it to you same design gearwrench made in Taiwan the matco made in usa seen them made at sparks Maryland facility now aj mnfg makes the ratchets in usa for matco now
@doctordiesel5467 the soft handle matco wrenches are made overseas and the parts do fit... hate to break it to you ive check for myself since posting the comment
@crazysvt03 huh you say the soft handle matco ratchets are made in Taiwan is that what your saying but why did I see them made by aj manufacturing in usa 4 months ago on a little plant tour 🤔
I have a 3/8 impact socket set and impact swivel socket set and I absolutely love them. I have been beating the piss out of them and they hold no problem. For a fraction of the price of Matco I’ll keep going with Sunex
There are many tire brands, but only a few or so manufacturers. The fuels coming out of the refineries are the same, but the additive packages make it different for the fueling stations. There are white-label parts for vehicles. There is a handful of vehicle battery manufacturers, but a ton of brands. It all comes down to the specs. Is there SOME of the stuff that is the same? Absolutely. But don't confuse it as being the case for ALL things. Great comparison on the sockets. This really shows how close manufacturers can get, but still be just different enough if you pay attention. Do your research. Purchase what is best for your needs and fits your budget. Have a good one!
Another thing they can do is bin by tolerance. The tools can be exactly the same, except the ones that have the best dimensional accuracy will be binned as the premium brand and the ones furthest out of spec will be the lesser brand. The tooling used to manufacture eventually wears out and loses accuracy. There are also lots of adjustments required to maintain high tolerances on all dimensions. Rather than scrapping the rejects and retooling the machine as soon as parts start going out of spec, they can keep running the machine to produce the lower quality brand. Both tools/parts might look identical upon close inspection, but they will not be. The only way to tell would be to take precision measurements and know the bin cutoff specs. A good example of this is coin minting. The first coins that come off of new dies will be binned “first strike”. These have the highest level of detail which is considered premium.
Good video, I would like to see more wright tool on the channel, IMO that’s one of the last great legacy brands still out here with their nose to the grindstone releasing USA made tools and they make phenomenal impact sockets….speaking of rebrands they’ve manufactured quite extensively for company’s that were slapping their logo on wright tools
Great job & information..I realized as you stated made to specs for each company..started understanding this awhile back..items set at a price point..vs special features/design..👍
Years ago I worked in a beef jerky factory. Many different brands, all made differently. Even though the same machines made the jerky. They didn't taste the same.
Great video Cp! Stopped in yesterday and was b/sing with Dominic Provenzano and the crew at the store, bought a pair of those cool Williams locking pliers. Great people there, and great to deal with.
Ares makes lots of these sockets products for every one, Matco, Mac tools, Snap on, Harbour Freight, as well as all Auto parts stores. The big one is Apex.
The UPS guy just dropped off a Wright socket I had on backorder today. They are made 30 minutes away from where I live. I'm a home DIY guy that races cars so I don't want tool truck stuff that I could never warranty. If I ever break a Wright socket I can just walk in the front door of their headquarters/plant and get a new one. lol
Very informative video! THANKS! I'd like a video showing/listing what's made in Taiwan and what are the best/better one's. Just in the overall quality. I'm sure one guy has a better 18mm than someone else. Just list THE BEST OVERALL QUALITY KNOWING they might have a dud #6 slotted screw driver. Hell. Snap-On never had ALL great tools. They had duds too. Thanks CP!
Always leave a like and an comment helps too and I knew to really look at package to see where made sure has some things made in India which is lesser quality than China be care what you buy off a truck especially matco ask about the warranty on them they vary tool to tool
CP! I’m trying to decide between spending big bucks for max precision torque combination wrenches, or craftsman v series which are 99% identical to the precision torques. I’ve been told they’re coming from the same factory off of the same assembly line. Should I spend more on the Max precision torques? Or save cash for almost the same thing with craftsman’s v series? Anyone else feel free to chime in on this, I appreciate all the advice!
@@CPthetooladdict damn I didn’t realize that. I haven’t been able to see them side-by-side. I just want a set of professional wrenches that I can trust to not round off critical fasteners, something that is pro grade but not going to break the bank. Any suggestions for me?
@@CPthetooladdict Mine does that even when it’s in a temp controlled environment with a good new battery. When I press on the battery cover, then it gets full power and works how it should. Had it warrantied by the Mac guy and the new one still does it sometimes.
Good videotape CP! The problem is matco is 70% the cost of Snap-On but the Matco tools are made in Taiwan vs the US made Snap-On. Snap-On is my first choice but I try to never buy rebrands. I do like the Matco pro line sockets though and I like Matco ratchets.
@@Thecrazyvaclav I hate adjustable wrenches and don't own one. I'd rather use an actual combination wrench or as a last resort a pair of knipex pliers.
@@Thecrazyvaclav not the best exemple as the only differences between the two are finish, markings, price and warranty. same steel, same forgings, same heat treatment. when the Irega factory makes adjustable wrenches for other, non Snap-on owned, brands, it's another matter. 😉
Great content CP. There is so much rebranding these days it is near impossible to tell who makes what. As you know I like my SK, Wright, Mayhew etc. Many of my favorites rebrand others tools to the point where it is hard to tell. Then you get a bunch of companies that don't make anything, but rebrand everything. I know you took measurements etc, but even at that how can you tell the difference???
@@CPthetooladdict I know I was considering buying some pliers from Lang , I saw very similar pliers from Wilde. I contacted Both companies and the sales company to try to find out who actually made them. About 3 emails of doublespeak, I still don't know. I bought them from Wilde, but who the heck knows who actually made them
Started buying tools in 1976, MATCO which I started buying in 1981 was originally owned by MAC, as it was the tool box manufacturing and private labeled tool buying side of MAC. When the family who owned MAC had a dispute one side took MATCO and left, to then start having Wright tool and Bonney Tool start producing sockets, ratchets private labeled from Wright and wrenches from Bonney. In the early 90's when MATCO was bought by the same company who owned Armstrong, that is when Armstrong started producing the sockets and ratchets for MATCO. Having US made Craftsman from the 60's (was my father`s), 70's, 80's and 90's, Armstrong from the same time frame and MATCO tools from the 90's I'll state a lot of similar features but small differences such as tolerances, finish - better chrome on Armstrong and even better on MATCO. For reference MAC and Marcos toolboxes in the late 70's and 80's even had the same part numbers and series names. Also from a metallurgical standpoint Armstrong and MATCO used better steel alloys, used better breaching- which can be seen by the tooling marks. So saying Sunex doesn't produce ADV maybe misleading as they just may not be made to identical specs. Same as how Chevy, Buick and Cadillac are building cars on common chassis but better options as you move up the GM line.
It's not misleading its called facts something matco likes to do to there customers is lie not that any company really cares anymore they are all mostly crooks looking to take your money and lack customer support
I used to buy crappy steel toe boots for a long time, they chew your feet up for 2 weeks but then they're golden. After a while you realise just pay for comfortable boots. Same thing with crap tools. When you break stuff all the time and you've replaced the same crap over and over you'll realise pretty fast a lifetime warranty is worth it's weight.
My old cornwell guy was always pushing the blue power same metallurgy and same specs as usa made 1/2 price. No matter what tho some keyboard warrior will know more tho
I have a couple of sets of CW impact sockets. Made in USA. They are way too soft. They wear out in a few months. I took them home and bought another brand and those are holding up much better..
All good points. Just because a tool looks similar, does not make it a rebrand. In some cases, these tools may very well come from the same manufacturer. But at the end of the day, the Brands are giving them the specs. In many cases, brands can't even produce some of these tools on their own if they wanted too, because of patents. Even if you can license the patents, it's often not worth re-tooling their own plants after royalties. There are many variables to consider when it come to manufacturing tools. Most people cannot wrap their head around this. Even if a tool looks identical to the naked eye aside from branding, doesn't mean it's the same tool. You can also have two tools come out of the same facility that look vastly different, yet have compatible performance and reliability.
Excellent video CP! I have sunex sockets and adv sockets, and it is funny how often people will say they are the same but they have some obvious differences even at a glance.
I just got 2 matco 3/8 deep swivel sockets from a pawn shop, they are usa made i think. They say matco usa and have that silly x core design but they are still in good shape, who made these? BDUP106Bis the part number on the 10mm, they are deeps too. Cause i know adv isnt American and i dont think their newer higher end stuff is either. Found them on their website now, says nothing of being USA made though
Most of the usa matco sockets in their usa line may not say made in usa on them due to the fact some materials in them are not usa sourced those sockets mostly made by national machine in Ohio
Exactly. Matco makes almost all of their tools in Taiwan but is the same or higher price as snap on. If you have the money why buy Matco and not snap on that’s U.S.A. made
Could be made in the exact same factory. As im typing you just said it lol. Hook up with Codyslab do a video together when it comes to the material made from. Just like wallfart and great value. HDMI cable costs walldaet $1.00 cost and 19.00 retail
You need to scream like the video in the beginning as well as WUDDUP GUYS!!!! usually by the end im on my next video but you mentioned it so I liked in the beginning
Yeah will stick to Snap-On if I'm buying off a tool truck. If I want good Taiwan made tools I can just buy NAPA Carlyle or Gear Wrench stuff and not pay the tool truck price.
Ya bud do your research you are the one that just made a false statement its because of clowns like you they put directions on shampoo bottles. I don't care what corner you pan handle on when you speak something better have some proof I can beat you down with the truth all day so pack a lunch.
I love watching your tool videos! They are a very thorough description of the product. But I have just one question. You have all these impact sockets and other products you show in these videos and say they are awesome. But what i see is 98% of them show no wear on them, and the ones that do have allittle dirt on them and thats all. I have been a mechanic for over 20 years. and the first couple of times, you use an impact socket they start showing wear. Either in the very slight rounding on the square end, or they start losing their color inside the hex end. And after about a month they deffently show they have been used, and in no way look like a new socket no matter what brand it is. Every video i see with all your sockets shows very very low wear on almost all of the sockets. If its just to show new sockets to say what you think about them, i completely understand. I am not doubting you work on cars/trucks at all and your capabilities. I just see ALLOT of brand new tools with no wear and thats it. Sorry if im wrong.
We have a good snap on rep in my area now but theyve been horrible the last 15+ years. The mac rep was excellent until he retired a couple years ago. The rep we have now is terrible.
Wright Cornwell (Each owned and manufactured in Ohio, Barberton & Wadsworth) S&K (Until recently sold to great star... was made in colorado, office in Indiana) Mac Proto (made in texas) Cresent Channellock Elkhind Klein Starret Mayhew Martin Ingersol rand Chicago pneumatic Last but not least , Snap-on tools . 🇺🇲🇺🇸🇺🇲🇺🇸🇺🇲🇺🇸🇺🇲🇺🇸 all made here .
@@CPthetooladdict Nope ... but they had offices in Chicago Illinois , I know cause I saw where S&K manufacturing took place in Colorado Springs , Colorado . If you look at their website they still have the plans posted to move manufacturing to Pensylvania from CO .
Thats great stars office in PA yes they had a plant and headquarters in Chicago because I live 5hrs away and have been there two plants to be correct also ideal is in Chicago.
@@CPthetooladdict I bought the x-frame ratchet wrenches just before they sold out . I heard they were going under and maybe every little bit helps ... grew up with hammered green socket trays 😀. Great brand , shame to see it go .
@@CPthetooladdict Dude , I thought maybe I should sell tools cause I believe so strongly in buying American Made if at all possible. It's expensive to be a tool truck . And people don't believe in buying American anymore . So I'll just stay a mechanic . Reality hit me one day I went shopping for Levi's ... did you know that the last American Cotton textile closed its doors forever in 2017 ... floored me .
Chad I apprreciate the info And I hope these techs and body guys don't take your valuable info for granted I wish this info was around in 1995 when I was getting started there was a lot of smoke and mirrors a lot of truth in advertising was not true although I miss the cool MAC Gator Nationals catolog that would come out at this time every year. If it eats like a duck and has a bowel movement like a duck its probably Daffey anyway I like to keep my hands dirty and my money clean. but the teenager in the stall next to me wearing those pretty blue and purple pastic gloves i have never seen him use cash either??? oh do a video do you pay with cash or credit card or debit card when you pay the tool truck guys????? It seems Like I get more perks using cash with my Mac guy. my snap on guy is fresh he took over this route for a vetern snap-on guy that started in 1981 but he seems to favor cards and payment apps course things have changed with all the finacial fees i can remember tool guys and my barber getting charged like 3.00 for every $25 trans action for visa or mastercard. back in the late 80's Keep up the Awesome vids and truth and show up wearing plastic gloves
@@CPthetooladdict I'm not sure.. the ones I've seen all say USA on them. Even when I go on the matco website they sell TWO different impact sockets. They sell matco/ADV and then ones with the shinier black color. Not sure if they are usa or not but they look identical to the usa ones that were on the truck last time I was on it, been a few months since then though.
Im well aware of the difference pretty sure ive done multiple vids on them so thats hilarious!!! Lol let me tell you a little secret they are not usa made those were opti torque sockets brand new lol
@@CPthetooladdict they were on a plastic blue rail.. wrapped in plastic.. said "made in USA" on the sticker. Same with there were many chrome sets that were on blue or red plastic rails wrapped in plastic that said made in USA. Im not telling you you're wrong, I'm just stating that I saw many sets of USA matco sockets the last time I was on the truck.
Hi CP just watching a few of your videos, nice work. What drives me crazy is paying top dollar for a socket set and they cheap out and laser etch them instead of stamping the sizing.
A Toyota f86 is a Subaru BRZ. Just because the badge is different and subtle trim or seat differences doesn't count. They're the same. Just because matco put a little recess doesn't make it their own. Same metal same factory. Different sticker.
... so you all know and who manufactures "Hardline" and "Tool Boxes" ... Snap-On, Cornwell and S&K forge their own hand tools (Sockets - Wrenches - Ratchets and so on ...) The only companies that manufacture Tool Boxes are Snap-On, Matco and now Cornwell ...
@@CPthetooladdict ... Nope MAC Tools does not have a forging plant they use to have one tied up to Proto and Stanley Tools, but as of now they don't, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not up to date but been in the mobile tool business since 1992 . Craftsman use to me manufactured by KD which disappeared and where part of the Danaher Group, I don't know who makes them know ( I think maybe overseas) ... S&K was purchased by Ideal and last year sold to a "Chinese" company ... other than that you do have great videos, keep it up !!!
What people typically don't get is the fact just because something is produced at the same factory does not mean it's the same. Hell Harbor Freight Pittsburgh Professional sockets "could" be very well made at the same factory as Matco ADV. Each brand has engineers visiting the manufacturer to ensure quality for their products built to said brands specifications. Higher end brands go through stricter QC too.
These sockets have a hexagonal (6 pointed shape). They are not octagonal (8-pointed shape). …but you confusing the names of geometric shapes isn’t enough for me to not like your video. Keep teaching me about tools I don’t already know!
Taiwan has huge tool making factories, chip factories, they have great steel composition formulas. But they have different levels of production, 20 years ago Snap On made Kobalt tools for Lowes, same factories, but different steel and tolerance levels.
Thank you
@@shawnthomas7404correct
@@shawnthomas7404 Williams first, danaher second, then chinesium.
I’ve been using ADV since 2014 and honestly couldn’t care less where it’s made or if it’s rebranded. It’s cheap, it works and the Matco guy shows up around here. In 8 years of using ADV professionally I’ve had to warranty one socket and it was my fault that it broke. I’m gonna keep using ADV and I’ll buy more as I need it because it works
I feel the same about my sunex. I've only ruined 2 sockets in 6-7 years of working in automotive. 1 8mm 1/4 gear socket. I kept putting on 7mm and rounded it off. And I cracked my gear wrench 10mm 1/4. That was after 2 year of impact abuse on a non-impact rated socket. My sunex impact sockets have never given me issues though. My 10mm 1/4 going on nearly 4 years of constantly daily abuse. Still works just as good as it did out the box. And I got it with the master 1/4 set on sale for like $200. Came with almost every 1/4 socket yould would need for baisc cars.
From a Matco dealer. He told me straight up that the gearwrench ratchets are the same internals as the Matco soft grip ratchets. Back in the day they were owned by the same company, had the same patent number and all. After researching for myself it was true. So I get where you're coming from that tools are misleading and one comparison doesn't mean it's all true across the board
You win the internet man finally someone gets it!!
The guts are not the same hate to break it to you same design gearwrench made in Taiwan the matco made in usa seen them made at sparks Maryland facility now aj mnfg makes the ratchets in usa for matco now
@doctordiesel5467 the soft handle matco wrenches are made overseas and the parts do fit... hate to break it to you ive check for myself since posting the comment
You are 100% correct @crazysvt103
@crazysvt03 huh you say the soft handle matco ratchets are made in Taiwan is that what your saying but why did I see them made by aj manufacturing in usa 4 months ago on a little plant tour 🤔
Bro. Your energy is infectious. I really dig your attitude and your content, keep it up brother
I have a 3/8 impact socket set and impact swivel socket set and I absolutely love them. I have been beating the piss out of them and they hold no problem. For a fraction of the price of Matco I’ll keep going with Sunex
Cool, I will stick to using the better ones! 👍
There are many tire brands, but only a few or so manufacturers. The fuels coming out of the refineries are the same, but the additive packages make it different for the fueling stations. There are white-label parts for vehicles. There is a handful of vehicle battery manufacturers, but a ton of brands. It all comes down to the specs. Is there SOME of the stuff that is the same? Absolutely. But don't confuse it as being the case for ALL things. Great comparison on the sockets. This really shows how close manufacturers can get, but still be just different enough if you pay attention. Do your research. Purchase what is best for your needs and fits your budget. Have a good one!
Excellent video CP I had some of my better Snapon tools stolen so now I’ve been bringing NAPA Carlyle to workplace.
Hello again CP
Thank you for another Great Video.
Be been using some Grey Pneumatic impact sockets at work. Have 1/2 and 3/8 drive sets. For the price they hold up to heavy daily use very well.
GP have top notch sockets, been using same 3/8 set for almost 10yrs now. Never cracked one
Been looking for a realistic comparison of the clearance outside diameter between Brenda but this is interesting
Another thing they can do is bin by tolerance. The tools can be exactly the same, except the ones that have the best dimensional accuracy will be binned as the premium brand and the ones furthest out of spec will be the lesser brand. The tooling used to manufacture eventually wears out and loses accuracy. There are also lots of adjustments required to maintain high tolerances on all dimensions. Rather than scrapping the rejects and retooling the machine as soon as parts start going out of spec, they can keep running the machine to produce the lower quality brand. Both tools/parts might look identical upon close inspection, but they will not be. The only way to tell would be to take precision measurements and know the bin cutoff specs.
A good example of this is coin minting. The first coins that come off of new dies will be binned “first strike”. These have the highest level of detail which is considered premium.
Good video, I would like to see more wright tool on the channel, IMO that’s one of the last great legacy brands still out here with their nose to the grindstone releasing USA made tools and they make phenomenal impact sockets….speaking of rebrands they’ve manufactured quite extensively for company’s that were slapping their logo on wright tools
Noted!
Great job & information..I realized as you stated made to specs for each company..started understanding this awhile back..items set at a price point..vs special features/design..👍
Years ago I worked in a beef jerky factory. Many different brands, all made differently. Even though the same machines made the jerky. They didn't taste the same.
Exactly!!! Glad you get it!!
Dream job
Great video Cp! Stopped in yesterday and was b/sing with Dominic Provenzano and the crew at the store, bought a pair of those cool Williams locking pliers. Great people there, and great to deal with.
Thsts awesome glad to hear a great experience!!
Ares makes lots of these sockets products for every one, Matco, Mac tools, Snap on, Harbour Freight, as well as all Auto parts stores. The big one is Apex.
CP!!! I have been telling people this for years and so many tell me im an idiot.. thank you for clearifying this issue and bring in facts.
sometimes you cannot have an idiot understand he's an idiot because he is an idiot. and those idiots are the worst. 😑
The UPS guy just dropped off a Wright socket I had on backorder today. They are made 30 minutes away from where I live. I'm a home DIY guy that races cars so I don't want tool truck stuff that I could never warranty. If I ever break a Wright socket I can just walk in the front door of their headquarters/plant and get a new one. lol
Wright tools are awesome. Cp, should make a video on Wright tools. USA baby!!
CP YOU'RE at 13.6K subscribers! You've grown so much since last year!
Thanks man you been around for a while buddy!!
@@CPthetooladdict for sure CP, I think it’s been around 3 years or so!
Yep
Very informative video! THANKS! I'd like a video showing/listing what's made in Taiwan and what are the best/better one's. Just in the overall quality. I'm sure one guy has a better 18mm than someone else. Just list THE BEST OVERALL QUALITY KNOWING they might have a dud #6 slotted screw driver. Hell. Snap-On never had ALL great tools. They had duds too. Thanks CP!
Love the videos mate cheers mate from Australia keep em coming. Very informative
Thank you 🙏
You’re welcome 😊
Thank you .
Always leave a like and an comment helps too and I knew to really look at package to see where made sure has some things made in India which is lesser quality than China be care what you buy off a truck especially matco ask about the warranty on them they vary tool to tool
Thanks larry I know you always do!!
CP! I’m trying to decide between spending big bucks for max precision torque combination wrenches, or craftsman v series which are 99% identical to the precision torques. I’ve been told they’re coming from the same factory off of the same assembly line. Should I spend more on the Max precision torques? Or save cash for almost the same thing with craftsman’s v series? Anyone else feel free to chime in on this, I appreciate all the advice!
They aren't 99% identical they are much shorter lol buy what makes you happy I don't make a dime off them either way
@@CPthetooladdict damn I didn’t realize that. I haven’t been able to see them side-by-side. I just want a set of professional wrenches that I can trust to not round off critical fasteners, something that is pro grade but not going to break the bank. Any suggestions for me?
@@tooltimewiththomas713 have a look at Wright wrenches. and look around for the best deal. 😏
I’m glad I’m not the only one having issues with dim displays on my Mac digital caliper.
Battery is dead and it was 35 not terribly uncommon in these neck of the woods
@@CPthetooladdict Mine does that even when it’s in a temp controlled environment with a good new battery. When I press on the battery cover, then it gets full power and works how it should. Had it warrantied by the Mac guy and the new one still does it sometimes.
I come back and watch your videos all the time thank you CP I appreciate your knowledge and all you do 👍😎👍 9/22/24
I appreciate that
Good videotape CP! The problem is matco is 70% the cost of Snap-On but the Matco tools are made in Taiwan vs the US made Snap-On. Snap-On is my first choice but I try to never buy rebrands. I do like the Matco pro line sockets though and I like Matco ratchets.
Your snap on adjustable wrenchs are made in Spain, alongside Bahco adjustables, and tbh the Bahco ones are better quality
@@Thecrazyvaclav I hate adjustable wrenches and don't own one. I'd rather use an actual combination wrench or as a last resort a pair of knipex pliers.
@@Thecrazyvaclav not the best exemple as the only differences between the two are finish, markings, price and warranty. same steel, same forgings, same heat treatment. when the Irega factory makes adjustable wrenches for other, non Snap-on owned, brands, it's another matter. 😉
Great content CP. There is so much rebranding these days it is near impossible to tell who makes what. As you know I like my SK, Wright, Mayhew etc. Many of my favorites rebrand others tools to the point where it is hard to tell. Then you get a bunch of companies that don't make anything, but rebrand everything. I know you took measurements etc, but even at that how can you tell the difference???
Lots of research digging some times you can ask most companies won't tell you but it's a little complicated at times no good way to be honest!
@@CPthetooladdict
I know I was considering buying some pliers from Lang , I saw very similar pliers from Wilde. I contacted Both companies and the sales company to try to find out who actually made them. About 3 emails of doublespeak, I still don't know. I bought them from Wilde, but who the heck knows who actually made them
for old chrome sockets at swap meets etc, Look for craftsman with a date staming of G2 or higher, supposed to be flank drive clones. work great.
Started buying tools in 1976, MATCO which I started buying in 1981 was originally owned by MAC, as it was the tool box manufacturing and private labeled tool buying side of MAC. When the family who owned MAC had a dispute one side took MATCO and left, to then start having Wright tool and Bonney Tool start producing sockets, ratchets private labeled from Wright and wrenches from Bonney.
In the early 90's when MATCO was bought by the same company who owned Armstrong, that is when Armstrong started producing the sockets and ratchets for MATCO. Having US made Craftsman from the 60's (was my father`s), 70's, 80's and 90's, Armstrong from the same time frame and MATCO tools from the 90's I'll state a lot of similar features but small differences such as tolerances, finish - better chrome on Armstrong and even better on MATCO. For reference MAC and Marcos toolboxes in the late 70's and 80's even had the same part numbers and series names.
Also from a metallurgical standpoint Armstrong and MATCO used better steel alloys, used better breaching- which can be seen by the tooling marks. So saying Sunex doesn't produce ADV maybe misleading as they just may not be made to identical specs. Same as how Chevy, Buick and Cadillac are building cars on common chassis but better options as you move up the GM line.
It's not misleading its called facts something matco likes to do to there customers is lie not that any company really cares anymore they are all mostly crooks looking to take your money and lack customer support
Simply put. Buy a pair of $20 boots get $20 in comfort and wear. Buy good quality which cost more you get the quality with it
I used to buy crappy steel toe boots for a long time, they chew your feet up for 2 weeks but then they're golden. After a while you realise just pay for comfortable boots. Same thing with crap tools. When you break stuff all the time and you've replaced the same crap over and over you'll realise pretty fast a lifetime warranty is worth it's weight.
CP, please make a video on Matco sockets compared to Armstrong sockets soon! I’m a psycho for Armstrong USA tools(r.i.p)(fuq apex!)
Great, I only have crappy sunex sockets
If you were going to get one set of deep impact sockets what brand would you get?
Mac usa impact sockets hands down my favorite
My old cornwell guy was always pushing the blue power same metallurgy and same specs as usa made 1/2 price. No matter what tho some keyboard warrior will know more tho
I personally love my blue power sockets. They are primary now for 3/8" and 1/4" impacts. For one year theyve held up well so far in daily use
I have a couple of sets of CW impact sockets. Made in USA. They are way too soft. They wear out in a few months. I took them home and bought another brand and those are holding up much better..
All good points. Just because a tool looks similar, does not make it a rebrand. In some cases, these tools may very well come from the same manufacturer. But at the end of the day, the Brands are giving them the specs.
In many cases, brands can't even produce some of these tools on their own if they wanted too, because of patents. Even if you can license the patents, it's often not worth re-tooling their own plants after royalties.
There are many variables to consider when it come to manufacturing tools. Most people cannot wrap their head around this. Even if a tool looks identical to the naked eye aside from branding, doesn't mean it's the same tool. You can also have two tools come out of the same facility that look vastly different, yet have compatible performance and reliability.
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CP got to watch the sizes when comparing apples to apples. The ADV is 21 mm, where the Sunex is 22mm.
Yes I showed that.
Lol I posted the same thing you beat me to it
It's also about service and warranty.
Excellent video CP! I have sunex sockets and adv sockets, and it is funny how often people will say they are the same but they have some obvious differences even at a glance.
Excellent breakdown, guarantee your making some TECHNICIAN's WAKE UP !
I appreciate that!
The Sunex are Awsome for the money. Adv are good as well. If I have a cool Matco dealer why not.
Thank you Chad for the video.
My pleasure!!
I just got 2 matco 3/8 deep swivel sockets from a pawn shop, they are usa made i think. They say matco usa and have that silly x core design but they are still in good shape, who made these? BDUP106Bis the part number on the 10mm, they are deeps too. Cause i know adv isnt American and i dont think their newer higher end stuff is either. Found them on their website now, says nothing of being USA made though
Older ones used to be usa made that's very cool you found some!!
@@CPthetooladdict well damn, who makes their current more expensive non adv sockets and where at?
Most of the usa matco sockets in their usa line may not say made in usa on them due to the fact some materials in them are not usa sourced those sockets mostly made by national machine in Ohio
Funny my, the dealer tells me their system shows coming from ptp, which is a known broker for sunex
@@CPthetooladdict adv sockets are ptp not their usa line of sockets
The problem now is Matco is as high or higher than snap on.
Exactly. Matco makes almost all of their tools in Taiwan but is the same or higher price as snap on. If you have the money why buy Matco and not snap on that’s U.S.A. made
Have any Willams in your collection?
Really like your videos CP keep up the content please sir.
Right on Brother! Let the like button up Big fella!👍
Sunex was a 22mm the adv was a 21 makes sense why they would have different measurements
Yes I showed the sizes indeed they are different
Could be made in the exact same factory. As im typing you just said it lol.
Hook up with Codyslab do a video together when it comes to the material made from.
Just like wallfart and great value.
HDMI cable costs walldaet $1.00 cost and 19.00 retail
I love my ADV sockets! I don't think u can beat them for quality to price off any of the trucks
Cp, what's your opinion on capri tools and the grey pneumatic dup sockets? Which would you choose, I love that capri offers a semi deep.
They are awesome capri has pro grade stuff
I always give you a like might not comment on all but all I watch old and new if I haven’t already liked I do.
I appreciate it my man!!
Good tool review Broski!
So the Matco branded sockets are made by Armstrong? I’m wanting a semi deep metric impact socket set and wanted the Matco vs the ADV
No not anymore I'd get the adv and save the money
@@CPthetooladdict what about the Capri tools set? It’s more sockets for about half the price of the ADV, do you like the Capri stuff?
Absolutely 1000% do the capri just buy the whole set shallow mids and deeps with a nice Westinghouse tray you will be very satisfied
@@CPthetooladdict I was thinking about the semi deep set and the stubby set. That’s combined about the price of the semi deep ADV set
Well thats the way to go for sure
I like the toptul spinning t handle
Who makes Matco's Chrome Sockets?
Ptp being made in Taiwan now also
There's a snap on factor in carson city nevada
You need to scream like the video in the beginning as well as WUDDUP GUYS!!!! usually by the end im on my next video but you mentioned it so I liked in the beginning
My matco dealer still has usa made sockets?
Must be leftover stock
You bought that sumbich brother, that is CP’s funnel 😁
Yeah will stick to Snap-On if I'm buying off a tool truck. If I want good Taiwan made tools I can just buy NAPA Carlyle or Gear Wrench stuff and not pay the tool truck price.
Hammers are made by snap-on not trusty cook...matco cornwell eastwood and sk all use trusty cook fantastic hammers if I do say so though!!!
Ya bud do your research you are the one that just made a false statement its because of clowns like you they put directions on shampoo bottles. I don't care what corner you pan handle on when you speak something better have some proof I can beat you down with the truth all day so pack a lunch.
Have you looked into sonic tools
The snap-on brushless 3\8 is here pre orders on the truck today
Ya not very impressive on the power
@@CPthetooladdict really IV always thought the old one is pretty good but who knows the new one might be week as water
I'm sure we will all know I was a little disappointed that it wasn't rated for 250ftlbs
@@CPthetooladdict yeah not many will do 250, the one I have I dont really use it on big dolts and stuff
@@CPthetooladdict IV got the new ct9050 and it's pretty powerful 1000ftlbs but it's 18 volt tho
I hit the like button 👍😊.
Thanks David long time no see!!
Those adv sockets definitely don't hold up the finish my most common sockets none of them you can read what size they are anymore
My Advs are chromoly are the sun x?
Yes
I love watching your tool videos! They are a very thorough description of the product. But I have just one question. You have all these impact sockets and other products you show in these videos and say they are awesome. But what i see is 98% of them show no wear on them, and the ones that do have allittle dirt on them and thats all. I have been a mechanic for over 20 years. and the first couple of times, you use an impact socket they start showing wear. Either in the very slight rounding on the square end, or they start losing their color inside the hex end. And after about a month they deffently show they have been used, and in no way look like a new socket no matter what brand it is. Every video i see with all your sockets shows very very low wear on almost all of the sockets. If its just to show new sockets to say what you think about them, i completely understand. I am not doubting you work on cars/trucks at all and your capabilities. I just see ALLOT of brand new tools with no wear and thats it. Sorry if im wrong.
I thought Mac never manufactured tools only tool boxes?
They manufacture in the same factory as proto in Dallas tx
i thumbs up everyone CP
they are all well deserved.
Thansk my man!!
Hey cp how did that new craftsman ratchet that was on your Instagram preformed
Very good for me!!
@@CPthetooladdict thought so everyone dont like the new stuff because of country origin but buy harbor freight
I'm going to buy premium tools. I'm going to support the United States. Snap-on is extremely professional and that truck always shows up
Amen!!
We have a good snap on rep in my area now but theyve been horrible the last 15+ years. The mac rep was excellent until he retired a couple years ago. The rep we have now is terrible.
I wonder what tools Taiwanese mechanics like ??
They are pretty good most of the time
Just liked, I’m # 948!
Compare them to grey pneumatics.
Matco is makes sockets in the USA…. The adv sockets is their economy line
Wright
Cornwell
(Each owned and manufactured in Ohio, Barberton & Wadsworth)
S&K
(Until recently sold to great star... was made in colorado, office in Indiana)
Mac
Proto
(made in texas)
Cresent
Channellock
Elkhind
Klein
Starret
Mayhew
Martin
Ingersol rand
Chicago pneumatic
Last but not least , Snap-on tools .
🇺🇲🇺🇸🇺🇲🇺🇸🇺🇲🇺🇸🇺🇲🇺🇸 all made here .
Sk was manufactured in Chicago
@@CPthetooladdict Nope ... but they had offices in Chicago Illinois , I know cause I saw where S&K manufacturing took place in Colorado Springs , Colorado . If you look at their website they still have the plans posted to move manufacturing to Pensylvania from CO .
Thats great stars office in PA yes they had a plant and headquarters in Chicago because I live 5hrs away and have been there two plants to be correct also ideal is in Chicago.
@@CPthetooladdict I bought the x-frame ratchet wrenches just before they sold out . I heard they were going under and maybe every little bit helps ... grew up with hammered green socket trays 😀. Great brand , shame to see it go .
@@CPthetooladdict Dude , I thought maybe I should sell tools cause I believe so strongly in buying American Made if at all possible. It's expensive to be a tool truck . And people don't believe in buying American anymore . So I'll just stay a mechanic . Reality hit me one day I went shopping for Levi's ... did you know that the last American Cotton textile closed its doors forever in 2017 ... floored me .
Mullets looking pimpin
Hell ya its a foot longer now lol
Chad I apprreciate the info And I hope these techs and body guys don't take your valuable info for granted I wish this info was around in 1995 when I was getting started there was a lot of smoke and mirrors a lot of truth in advertising was not true although I miss the cool MAC Gator Nationals catolog that would come out at this time every year. If it eats like a duck and has a bowel movement like a duck its probably Daffey anyway I like to keep my hands dirty and my money clean. but the teenager in the stall next to me wearing those pretty blue and purple pastic gloves i have never seen him use cash either??? oh do a video do you pay with cash or credit card or debit card when you pay the tool truck guys????? It seems Like I get more perks using cash with my Mac guy. my snap on guy is fresh he took over this route for a vetern snap-on guy that started in 1981 but he seems to favor cards and payment apps course things have changed with all the finacial fees i can remember tool guys and my barber getting charged like 3.00 for every $25 trans action for visa or mastercard. back in the late 80's Keep up the Awesome vids and truth and show up wearing plastic gloves
Just bought the adv 3/8 stubbys and im pissed because I forgot I have the makitas they sell at home depot. But then I realized matco>makita
hey cp can you make a video on ratchet wrench organization? tia keep up the good work man.
I did
They woyluld be exactly the same if you used the same socked you compared a 22 to a 21
Adv is matcos brand so they should be the considered same
80% of all Snapon tools are made in the US all hardline tools are and made in Snapon factories
After Armstrong went down they went to a different distributor in the USA, that's what my dealer said.
Oh ya so why aren't they stamped usa?
@@CPthetooladdict I'm not sure.. the ones I've seen all say USA on them. Even when I go on the matco website they sell TWO different impact sockets. They sell matco/ADV and then ones with the shinier black color. Not sure if they are usa or not but they look identical to the usa ones that were on the truck last time I was on it, been a few months since then though.
@@CPthetooladdict theyre called opti-torque or some bull shit if I remember correctly.
Im well aware of the difference pretty sure ive done multiple vids on them so thats hilarious!!! Lol let me tell you a little secret they are not usa made those were opti torque sockets brand new lol
@@CPthetooladdict they were on a plastic blue rail.. wrapped in plastic.. said "made in USA" on the sticker. Same with there were many chrome sets that were on blue or red plastic rails wrapped in plastic that said made in USA. Im not telling you you're wrong, I'm just stating that I saw many sets of USA matco sockets the last time I was on the truck.
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Hi CP just watching a few of your videos, nice work. What drives me crazy is paying top dollar for a socket set and they cheap out and laser etch them instead of stamping the sizing.
I totally agree should be standard
Jus think you need a huskers sticker or magnet haha always watch tho
Lmao husker need some help I wish they would have made it to a bowl game!
@5:03 it shows one is a 22mm and the ADV IS A 21MM. WTF BRO
It was a simple comparison not to be taken as a sizing reference so calm down keyboard warrior
@@CPthetooladdict woah woah woah. I'm a keyboard gladiator, get it right next time fuck face 😭
Sorry gladiator my mistake lol
@@CPthetooladdict lmao 😊 thanks!
Anytime my friend a man thats honest is a good man in my opinion!!
I hate to say it now even Snap On is now made off shore,I bought my tools late 80s early 90s.when most things where made here.
No they are not the hardline is made in 9 different locations here in the usa still smh
A Toyota f86 is a Subaru BRZ. Just because the badge is different and subtle trim or seat differences doesn't count. They're the same. Just because matco put a little recess doesn't make it their own. Same metal same factory. Different sticker.
Wrong there are over 500 different metal recipes, but you keep thinking you know everything about tools, smart guy.
Ones a 22mm and the other a 21mm
Yes it is
yeah it sucks these tools aren't made in the USA right now but at least its not China and Taiwan hates China so that helps a little
Hit that like button!
... so you all know and who manufactures "Hardline" and "Tool Boxes" ...
Snap-On, Cornwell and S&K forge their own hand tools (Sockets - Wrenches - Ratchets and so on ...) The only companies that manufacture Tool Boxes are Snap-On, Matco and now Cornwell ...
Mac does also as well as craftsman in the usa.
@@CPthetooladdict ... Nope MAC Tools does not have a forging plant they use to have one tied up to Proto and Stanley Tools, but as of now they don't, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not up to date but been in the mobile tool business since 1992 . Craftsman use to me manufactured by KD which disappeared and where part of the Danaher Group, I don't know who makes them know ( I think maybe overseas) ... S&K was purchased by Ideal and last year sold to a "Chinese" company ... other than that you do have great videos, keep it up !!!
@@CPthetooladdict ... and btw if you can send me some details on
ADV I'll like to know more about them as well, thanks CP
What people typically don't get is the fact just because something is produced at the same factory does not mean it's the same. Hell Harbor Freight Pittsburgh Professional sockets "could" be very well made at the same factory as Matco ADV. Each brand has engineers visiting the manufacturer to ensure quality for their products built to said brands specifications. Higher end brands go through stricter QC too.
AVD is sunex/gp. Sunex is cheaper gp.
I rang that damned bell!
These sockets have a hexagonal (6 pointed shape). They are not octagonal (8-pointed shape).
…but you confusing the names of geometric shapes isn’t enough for me to not like your video. Keep teaching me about tools I don’t already know!