Vincent Bach "STRADIVARIUS" 42B/42BO Trombone | Instrument Reviews
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
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This review has been a long time coming, especially since my slightly sub-standard review on the Bach Stradivarius model 36 medium-bore trombone, but I am glad to say I have finally done a full-length review of the awesome large-bore Strad 42! I had the opportunity through GU's music department and a close personal friend to test two variants of this design: the closed-wrap 42B and open-wrap 42BO. These are both great trombones with wonderful tones. Enjoy!
~CHAPTERS~
0:00 Opening remarks
0:42 Sound demo & B-roll
1:06 Features & specs
4:08 Announcement
4:34 More sound demos
9:13 Overall verdict: yes!
10:32 Closing remarks
~EQUIPMENT~
Vincent Bach 'Stradivarius' model 42B (closed wrap) and 42BO (open wrap) large-bore Bb/F tenor trombones made in Elkhart, IN
Denis Wick 4AL & 5BL mouthpieces
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Welcome to trombone week on Scholastic Brass Month! Hope you enjoy this slightly different review featuring two instruments!
Awesome video!!
Thank you!
Thanks for a very informative video. The Bach 42B is a fantastic trombone.
Thank you for your comment! I definitely agree there.
Loved the review, Sam! Never been a huge “Bach person” either, but I did enjoyed the video!
Thanks Brian! I’m curious, what about Bach trombones makes them “not for you?” I definitely have many reasons to feel that way on trumpet but have always found the 42 enjoyable to play.
@@SamuelPlaysBrass 42bo trigger register is really stuffy compared to other horns
great video, Sam
I have a Schiller brand trombone that is the same as a Bach 42BOG (gold brass bell, open wrap) with a lightweight slide
and it's phenomenal. I use it with Denis Wick 6BL and Kelly 51D
mouthpieces.
I use it for popular music and symphonic band.
I know that in quality it is not the same even though this Schiller is of good quality but in operation it is the same.
and thas trombone for me is a great replica of the LT42BOG
That’s good to know. I’ve never tried a Schiller and have been suspicious of their quality, but I’m glad yours worked well for you.
I play a 1981 Bach 42b, which I had fully restored/re-lacquered back in 2015. I currently use a Denis Wick 6BL mouthpiece with it,. I've considered moving to other similar horns with Edwards, Greenhoe, etc., but the cost just doesn't seem worth it, i.e., as an amateur player, so I'll just stick with my 42b (closed) for now. Many have complemented me on my tone.
interesting video from the standpoint of a devout Conn player. George, Canada...
Thanks for your comment, George. What you’ve described is a good example of diminishing returns, and I feel similarly about my 88H. I imagine there are probably trombones out there that I would like the sound and feel of more, but considering the jump in price (especially as these instruments have not hit the used market in any mainstream capacity), I can’t justify straying from the 88 that I paid comparatively little for, when I admire its tone so much as is.
Awesome video, I can definitely say the Bach 42bo is my favorite trombone I've owned so far! I've never been able to match that resonance in any other trombone, though I think Getzens are a close second. I find it interesting you prefer rose because for me it always made my sound thuddy and sloppy in comparision to yellow brass. My sound never felt as crisp or full 🤔
For me the preference for rose brass (or especially full-copper) over yellow brass is the result of me naturally having a very edgy sound on trombone. It's a combination of me being a trumpet player and doing a lot of jazz tenor/bass trombone but not a ton of classical tenor, meaning my tendency is to shove a lot of hot, fast air down the leadpipe when playing trombone.
I’ve currently got a Yamaha Xeno trombone with an open F attachment. I’m looking at trying out a Bach 42BO though. Which one do you think would be better overall?
My preference is Yamaha over Bach for trumpets but Bach over Yamaha for trombones. Totally varies from person to person though, so I can’t really give you a straight answer.
Is this what glenn miller played?
No, large bore trombones were not at all popular in Glenn Miller’s day. He played a model 6 small bore, not a 42. Even today, professional jazz trombonists will use small bore trombones in big bands.
Sam, nice, but outdated. As of 2018, the current standard for a 42 is the 42BOF & 42BOFG. The open flow valve on those models dramatically improves everything about the blow of the 42. This valve is even more open than the valve on my 88SGXCL. In fact it has the MOST natural feeling blow and evenness between Bb & F sides of any horn I’ve experienced in my 70 years of playing. I bought the Lt42BOFG. This is the first trigger horn made by anyone that doesn’t interfere with the natural blow & feel of a straight tenor. Like my beloved Mdl 34.
I’ve never gotten to play on a 42 that’s any more recent than the ‘90s, but I’ll keep an eye out. If what you say rings true for me, that’s pretty incredible.
The F-attachment on my Bach 42BO drives me ABSOLUTELY INSANE. It's so click and loud I'm always having to lube it to somewhat make it quiet... 😅
Well, that’s not a design issue on Bach’s part. That’s a sign that it hasn’t been properly serviced in a long time. Chances are the rotor collar needs to be tightened, which would require a trip down to the shop if you’ve got one near you.