Lufthansa Is Now Only Committed To Withdrawing 3 Airbus A380s From Storage
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- Опубліковано 9 гру 2022
- It looks as though Lufthansa may be quietly downsizing its Airbus A380 plans for next summer. The airline had previously said that it would withdraw four to five of the giants from storage, but in early December a Lufthansa spokesperson told Simple Flying that the current plan is to quote “reactivate at least three A380s to be ready for operation early next summer”. Let’s look at this change of plans in today’s video…
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If Lufthansa can reactive 5 A380s, that would be great! But 3 is a good starting point. I am unsure if they are going to stick with 3, or add 2 more.
I think, it depends strongly on the booking numbers in premium classes for the summer season. The economic downturn in Germany (inflation, high energy prices) will certainly affect the airlinebusiness.
I think they are revising the numbers returned exactly for that reason. We had this huge surge in travel post covid from pent up demand, but now the new economic realities will start kicking in.
With his 6 A380s are going back to Airbus by the end of this year, I think Lufthansa can still make it to reactivate 8 A380s but Mr Spohr decision to reactivate at least 3 A380s by early summer of 2023 is good enough.
I believe they will bring a total of at least 6 a380s by late next year until they see rise in popularity flights then add few more
This behemoth is monstrous. Very scary 😨 !! Greed rules!
I'm so excited I'm knocking-one-off as we speak!
Either way, LH is definitely retaining the A380 longer then expected. 3 makes a good entry level mix for the summer, but mid 23 could see international bookings and flights skyrocket, and several A380s are known to tackle this problem. I’d say quickly return the 3 and stay vigilant for a change in demand for 2023. ie. 5 or 6 A380s.
Lufthansa will never be a 5 Star Airline without the A380 in regular schedules. Period.
LOL..that's funny. Their interiors on the 380 are WAY outdated and dont' even have direct access to the isles in all seats in business class.
Given the economic uncertanty and incredibly restrictive "Covid Zero" policy in China, I doubt Beijing & Hong Kong would be destinations in the foreseeable future. So activating 3 for the LAX route would be right.
Zero Covid is over here in China!
Well, of course it's really not...just yet~
Still, quarantine times for foreign arrivals are constantly being lowered.
@RF Parsley It "may be over" but the damage has been done. Then again, I doubt it has truly been eliminated.
Hong Kong has started their tourism recovery plan, and actually China's Covid Zero policy has gone in the past few days. Well, I agree with ur opinion, cuz it must takes time.
Another negative is the loss of Russian airspace for east Asian flights.
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Lufthansa seems inscrutable with their use of large airplanes, and unusually profligate with their jet fuel use! So it's hard to know!
replacing the 340's ??
No. It's a stop gap until the 777-9s get delivered.
Yeah… I noticed LH has quite a mix of two engine, four engine and double deckers in its international fleet. Like how they use quad jets, gives a retro touch to a Modern airline.
@@0ne-6right40 That's mostly because LH has a policy of keeping it's widebody aircraft till 25 years. They would get rid of all the quads tomorrow if they could but have to wait for new deliveries and manage capital spend.
Nope. There will be even more A340-600s returning. The A346 fleet will consist of 10 aircraft by summer 2023 compared to 5 this summer.
And unlike others say, the A380 will not fill the 779 gap, the A340-600 will.
Once 777-9 are delivered, A340-600 will be replaced with the 789 on the other hand replacing A343 and A333 in Frankfurt.
Long story short:
A380 is fully back, A346 filling the 779 gap, will be replaced by 779, 744 is in the same situation like the A346. A333 and A343 in FRA will be replaced by 789, ex PAL A359 MUC will be replaced by brand new A359 and the brand new A359 will also replace the A346 in some way as the A346 base is MUC and the 779 will be based at FRA.
Fleet in long term, just like you can take from Lufthansa official documents:
A359, A388, B748, B779 and B789. Airbusses based at Munich, Boeings based at Frankfurt.
Not sure why they would bring them back at all. Lufthansa bleeds money as it is.
They’re not bleeding money at all. In fact they make huge profits currently.
And they bring them back because they need them to cover the 777X delays.
Perhaps Lufthansa are being cautious starting with perhaps 4 then increasing the number over the next 12 months as we enter the 2024 season, it seems as though BA have been operating their 380s reasonably successfully, Lufthansa perhaps could start Frankfurt operations to JFK late 2023. I hope Lufthansa will be successful with the 380, they are far to young to be grounded forever.
Lufthansa will not start Frankfurt to JFK with the A380 as all A380s will be based in Munich. Further LH A380 operations at Frankfurt have been ruled out right by the start of the fleet´s grounding.
It is a crime retiring the A-380s from any fleet.
LOL. yeah no
same for the 747 but nothing can change retiring aircraft
LH only has 8 380s left. 6 were sold back to Airbus, probably part of other deals with the 350 and 320NEO series. I'm not sure how much sense it really makes to bring back such a small number. Is it really with the expense of reactivation and added complexity? Also extremely outdated interiors by this point in the premium cabins.
It doesn’t make much sense, but since the 777X is delayed for forever they don’t have many options
@@MrSchwabentier forever? then why does it still exist? you mean until 2025 which is not forever
@@nickolliver3021 well considering it was originally meant to be delivered in 2019, 2025 is quite close to forever. Also I have my doubts about the 2025 date considering Boeings routine of announcing a new delay every 12 month. And since the whole testing has been haltetd for 3 months now i expect another delay to be announced soon...
@@MrSchwabentier That wasn't Boeings fault. The pandemic stopped it from getting certified. Forever means beyond the year 2100 as a guess. So then I think everyone has their doubts about the 2025 date too with Boeings routine of delaying the jet because of engine issues which are not Boeings fault. Ho would you know there will be another delay very soon?
@@nickolliver3021 It was very much Boings fault. The pandemic is only a minor factor in that. And yes, there might be a delay to engine issues now, but the previous delays were not on the engine but on the aircraft itself. ANd the delay due to the current engine issues is yet to be announced, thats why I expect a delay announcement soon
Don’t forget that flight paths over Ukraine and Russia are not possible at the moment, thus will impact flight times and aircraft requirements
Won't really effect LH 380s use much. Most likely they will used to UA hubs in the US given the JV where there is volume there. LH has never been that big in Asia. Demand to China is way down and not coming back anytime soon given all the controversy.
@@johniii8147 this is all true, I was just thinking of those flight paths that took aircraft over Russia.
3 a380s is better than none
I think 5, and they will add Frankfurt too on the schedule
They won´t. Frankfurt has been ruled out. And even if they reactivated all 8, the number of units would be too little to justify operations from both airports.
"withdraw from storage" is a really, *really* weird thing to say. Could have used an editor on that one.
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At least 3 Obama are still good to be around the other one probably srap
Lufthansa is a low class airline/cheapskate airline. It reflects in its policies, amenities, and attitudes.