Wheel of time Review Amazon BURNS The LORE! Season 2 Episode 3
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
- Wheel of Time Review for Season 2 Episode 3 created for Amazon Prime Video. The live action adaptation of the Wheel of Time Books, this episode features Nynaeve undergoing her accepted test. Rand meets Mazrim Taim. Matt escapes his cell he was never in and Perrin fights the Seanchan. But given The Wheel of Time lore changes that Amazon have done, is The Wheel of Time worth watching?
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Wheel of Time Review of Series 2 episode 3, where Nynaeve goes through some rings that don't make any sense. Rand spends months getting to a man only to decide, I don't want to talk to you anymore. Perrin loses a friend because he couldn't be bothered to say 6 words. And Matt escapes a cell he should never have been in, only to forget about Min. Which is understandable, because it's nothing like Min. So in a show that's nothing like the books, we should probably not be too surprised, this is nothing like the books. But what did you think of what you saw? Let me know your thoughts down below and as always, thanks for watching :)
On the evidence of your reviews (and Shad's) I ordered the compete book set. Needless to say that I was NOT disappointed. I'm already 1/3 of the way through the series and completely hooked. I wish that Amazon had made a series that was faithful to the books but sadly this is the way of things these days. Hopefully once the 'current thing' craze has passed perhaps some studio interested in making good quality entertainment will pick up the baton and grant us fans a faithful adaptation.
46:41
I can see the arms of the dude wearing the monster suit ffs
I'm begining to want to see the cast spontaneously break out into the Alice Cooper song Only Women Bleed.
If only to have 'em just cut to the damn chase. The dreary sacred woman ceremonies and tests need a slumber party pillow fight to lighten the mood.
13:33 Literary talent of a Dung Beetle. At least Dung Beetles can build things up. It's shit but they could roll it across the page and write something better by accident.
The USA didn't borrow or squat on these lands - we won each one fairly by voluntary annexation, or by Right of Conquest, of the rules of the age. To say less is both ignorant of history and diminishing of 18th and 19th century US military might.
If it wasnt for Disparu I wouldn't know this show exists.
Shame, you'd have been better off not knowing about it at all!
@@ReiverBlue1971👏
He tortures himself to spare the rest of us lol
Lol I could only stomach that "Velma kaling" shitshow through this fellas reviews.
Poor fella had to watch that garbage so we didn't have to.
I do like the hate watching. These shows deserve a dose of reality. And a dollop of hate.
I have not seen a single episode, only these videos
Ahhh yes, Selene, the woman who despised being in proximity to people she saw as beneath her, owns a bar in foregate. 🙄🙄🙄
Least she is the best looking woman in the series I'm pulling for her....
@@ShawnGilbert1967still way to old to be book accurate
@@ShawnGilbert1967 yeah, but she has rather poor competition here, wouldn't you say so? what happened to the ageless beauty of aes sedai lol
Welcome to another episode of "Disparu trying to retain his sanity..."
Trying to analyze this show has been the most stressful critique project I've taken on in years.... Willow was the only thing that was worse, but that was, somehow, easier to handle because it was so bonkers.
He’s doing the lord’s work!
Idk sometimes I feel like he enjoys trashing crappy shows like this one or ahsoka otherwise it'd be kinda boring for him to review a competent tv show with serious characters
@@TheSwordAndThePenREFLECTIONSno one asked😊
@@mmaboxingclips2407 my viewers asked.
"Picard" was torture for Gary. I thought "She-Hulk" was Disparu's ultimate nemesis... but this... For a huge WOT fan, like myself, this here is medieval torture!
I'm a new fan of the books thanks to Disparu and yeah this is torture
This is next-level.
I feel like az can sum up all these shows for us with his iconic line:
“IT’S SHIT!!!!”
It's nothing more than racist and misandrist pornography.
Watching Amazon's waste of time is like being put to the question
Omg these people in Hollywood are the worst. Robert Jordan would never have allowed someone to do this to his work. He freaking had another writer complete his story to ensure the fans got an ending. I hope future authors still alive ensure there work cannot be twisted and defiled like this. Its infuriating i will never watch season two or any future ones after watching these reviews and having watched season one.
Dont worry, nobody likes these. There is no 'intended audience.' Theyre losing money on it. Indies will rise, and Hollywood will be crushed. Just give it ten years, twenty tops
Question posed to Robert Jordan about fan fiction from a 2002 signing: answers saying he has to protect his copyright but in particular, " if you write erotica using my characters and post it, I WILL find you, and I will come down on you like the Hammer of God. I've found some very raunchy, and very badly written, examples of that, and I don't like it a bit."
I love the way that Disparu has now resorted to using 100% sarcasm to describe the events, it's the only way to stay sane while talking about these farcical shows for 50 minutes.
It might help Shad from Knight's Watch...it sounds as if he still tries to take this show seriously!
Did they have a casting call for 50 year old women with chiseled jaws?!😂
Its a K.D. Lang/Rachel Maddow off.
That one woman looks like a female Johnny Bravo 😂😂
When I ready the books description of they looked ageless because their features were of a 22 year old woman but their eyes and mannerisms of a wise, mature woman, I thought 50 year old woman with a square jaw
@@sayLeotardbutsayitChinese i spat my fucking drink out laughing at that
The last time I saw a jaw like that... it was spitting poison in Nedry's face...
Remember when the Aes Sedai were about discipline and self control? The whole point of the arches is to test discipline by making to novice choose between their wants and the mission objective. Now the arches is basically a hazing designed to torture without purpose. Alanna has shown she lacks the self control to even lock the door before her threesomes, (also bangs her warders while on a mission to escort a dangerous male channeler). The Aes Sedai are meant to carry respect and authority, but the women depicted in this show have the emotional maturity of a teenager. Please let them cancel the show before Cadsuane is introduced, I weep at the thought of what these fools would do to her character
So youre telling me you don't like all your favorite characters being made into whores?
Next in RoP we'll have sexy Eowyn in a skimpy metal bikini, because "feminism" or some dumb bullshit
'Cadsuane and the 3 Amigos'
...Bad Boys Beatings Began Before Dawn
~on the afterhours adult network
Finally,realistic female depiction.
The show is not the book, but if taken as a separate body of work, i think it’s fine. What’s wrong with having sex on someone’s off time when they are not proactively shielding or guarding? There have been countless movies and books where the powerful men get to accomplish things AND enjoy some earthly pleasures
@@theworldneedsmorelol The point of movies made to respect the books they were based off of is the attempt to honor them, not to PARODY them.
I am not interest is watching:
Pulp Friction,
Schindler's Fist or
Shaving Ryan's Privates
if I'm interested in seeing a movie made about a book I enjoyed reading.
Perceived respect for, not
perceived mockery of.
I might have watched 'The Wheels of Time (go round and round)' if I was feeling like watching a parody movie.
In the books, Nynaeve's personality was so OTT that I found it rather entertaining, heh. But my goodness, they couldn't have gotten an actress that was further opposite from that. Barely any facial expressions except for stressed/worried, and she seems so dull overall.
I have a friend who was massively into Wheel of Time, when we were teenagers he was reading the books and all he could do was talk about them. I'd never read them, my brother had and loved them and so I enjoyed listening to my friend talk about the world. It was fascinating.
He is now your standard consumer. He tried justifying how in season one they claim that women can be the dragon reborn. He is enjoying this show, but I know he is viewing it through rose tinted glasses.
You cannot deviate so far from the lore of a world and still use the same name. Amazons Wheel of Time is not Robert Jordans Wheel of Time.
How can Amazon, what started out as an online book store, be so bad at adapting fantasy novels? I would assume Bezos to have read LoTR and WoT and yet he gives us literary tripe.
He can enjoy it, but he can't claim it is The Wheel of Time. Anyone who believes this is an adaptation of the books hates the books. There's no middle ground or justification or reasoning. Even ignoring the ridiculous divergence from the novels, the show is objectively bad. The acting ranges from flat to hammy, the magic system in season 1 doesn't make sense, the dialog is rushed, the show spends HOURS on characters who have absolutely nothing to do with the plot or moving the plot forward, and the costuming is extremely generic.
I'm sorry your friend lost his mind. That's unfortunate.
It is so utterly ridiculous how many hoops this show tries to jump through just to bring things back around to where they should be at some of the key moments of the series, but also constantly makes new shit up to get in their own way. It really feels like a child was asked to give a book report and just skimmed it while making up a bunch of details.
Exactly! If you're going to twist everything around, just go all in. I am speed-watching the episodes (scanning for scenes I think I could tolerate) and reading reviews. They are still loosely sticking to the outlines of the books! Why bother?
They're rushing though everything to get to the cool bits, completely misunderstanding that the stuff they're rushing through MAKES the cool bits. For something that wants to be GoT, they've missed the key mark of GoT, everything is cause and effect.
It's pretty much how she was the first two books
I like how the armor looks like a metal screen door. With handy gaps to allow arrows and daggers to get through.
Disparu: "now the stupid thing is"
Everyone: "how can you choose just one???"
Book Spoilers: Jordan uses Moiraine sparingly in the Great Hunt. Every time he uses her, though, it is important to the story. It advances plot or characterization. In the books, there is a beautifully theatrical scene of Moiraine and Liandron in Fal Dara. Moraine is being polite and making friends with everyone. She is extending her eyes and ears. Liandron is being condescending (because Liandron is stupid.) Later on, Liandron attempts to use the One Power to torture information out of Rand. Moiraine walks in, and Liandron tries (badly) to make it look like she was just questioning him. Moiraine finds Mat wounded and the dagger stolen. Liandron tries to take Mat. And Moiraine lets the silk over iron fall. She lets Liandron what she thinks about her, the Red Ajah, and lets her know that Mat is under her protection. Jordan does this with just a couple quick lines. Moiraine returns to acting like herself right afterward. Moiraine sends Mat to hunt Pedan Fain and the dagger, because he is the only one who can safely touch it. Moiraine, knowing that she is in danger if she stays in the White Tower, leaves with Lan in a mission to find information on the Forsaken in general and Lanfear in specific. A mission that gives her proof that the Black Ajah exists and is actively helping the Dark One. Moiraine's chapters are important to the plot of the Great Hunt and to the Wheel of Time series as a whole. I don't know if Rafe is just as dumb as Liandron and doesn't understand Moiraine has an important role in the story or if he just actively hates the books and created a completely different Moriaine.
They gave her a more prominent role in the show because she's a big name and can't afford it to not have her in the series. So, why not cut to her once an episode while she's going through books, learning new revelations?
Even reading that summary is 10 times more engrossing than the show, and I haven't read the books in like 12 years.
I read the books, years and years ago. I would never dare sully that experience by watching the show.
Don't bother. Just read the books again.
Why? The original books were shit too for exactly the same reasons we're loosing all our best IPS to these fuckwits.
I really dont like that they make me feel good about not knowing the lore - Since it spares me the pain of watching it burn this time...
Are the books worth it?
@@deathsdoor07Usually the complaint is that they are too long. If you have read books like “Dune” or “The Name of the Wind,” and enjoyed them, then you will probably like these. After book 6 some folks think there is a “slog” between 7-9/10, but honesty I just think the plot started to require multiple books to wrap up plot points, when before it could be done in a single book. Robert Jordan did a great job giving instructions on the last books, wrote the very important parts he wanted to do himself, and Sanderson did a great job filling in the blanks. The payoffs you get upon completing the series imo are totally worth it. Best of luck and happy reading!
I was genuinely confused to the point of the test. As Disparu pointed out it should be the test of temptations; the show just comes up with something of very muddled plot that is very hard to decipher
The test is to leave behind who you were, who you are, and who you would be to become Aes Sedai
@@Shiatanful yes, but the show does not make it very clear and that is what I wanted to point out. And the the temptations I am referring to are those which will want you to make decisions that will lead you farther from becoming Aes sedai. And in the end it all felt quite rushed.
@@Shiatanful Btw Thank you, I have not read the books so it gets a bit confusing in the show sometimes. And these insights really help clear things up
@@TheDetectiveEngineer np, I was talking about what the tests were supposed to be, not how the show did them. I'm stuck, I my entire teenage and young 20s was spent reading and waiting for the next book to come out. I understand some of the story has to change to make it fit on the screen, but the part I have trouble getting past is them massacring the characters and changing a lot of the main premise of the stories. But for some reason I hate watch it every week to see what new thing they have screwed up.
@@TheDetectiveEngineeramazon destroyed the entire world Jordan created by deciding a woman could be the Dragon in S1 Ep1
Read the books. Much better
Amazon - "You are late"
Rafe- "A Thousand apologies oh patient one"
Amazon - You have it then?"
Rafe - "I had to slit a few throats...but I got it.."
I don't get it
@@TheDetectiveEngineerAladdin reference
@@rachaelbrugmans4309 thanks👍
Perfect timing, considering I just saw Aladdin a few days ago!
Amazon’s next shows will be Rings of Time and Wheels of Power, just to be accurate.
Followed by: 'The Ringwheel of Timepower',
Highlander Style...
Marsupials of Reckoning
It never ceases to astound that Disparu can single-handedly release episode-length videos exhibiting orders of magnitude more sense and logic than the entirety of the writer teams the monolithic entertainment companies put together. I patiently await the day he gets to write his own show, or at least faithfully adapt an IP for the screen.
I don't even bother to watch these "adaptations" anymore, I just watch your reviews, and it is far more enjoyable! 👍🏼👍🏼
This show enrages me so much that I can only watch through Disparu or Shad… their disgust with what’s been done makes me feel saner.
There are times where I'm sad I know some of my favourite stories will never see a multi-million adaptation until I watch adaptations like this and end being thankful for that fact. What is wrong with these writers not understanding that fantasy worldbuilding is often constructed in a way that certain plot points/characters and their arcs within them are often hugely important for future events. It's not that an adaptation can't remove certain plot points or other things but you have to be so careful with it. It's like being a surgeon you have to be precise with what you cut as one wrong cut and you might just end up with a corpse for a patient.
Which stories have not been done?
Roger's Zelazny's Amber Series. Thank all things merciful, it remains untainted. @@skaetur1
No they want Lifetime fantasy with sluts
I'm a retired mortician you rang
@@skaetur1 Amazon hasn't ruined Warhammer 40K... yet
One thing I liked about Nynaeve and the arches in the book was that she was the only woman to ever force an exit from them, so when she does, it's a real show-stopper. But I guess they didn't get to the end of that chapter before they started re-writing and filming randomly based on preconceptions of how this stuff normally plays out.
They had a 6 year old read the Wikipedia summary to them over a walkie-talkie while being high on meth.
The one benefit of this horrendous show is that your descriptions of what actually happens in the books make me want to read them again.
Also, in the "red is dead" scene her basket has red berries in it which presumably were good to eat. Even the prop team didn't know what scene they were working on.
nicely spotted, that gave me a good laugh.
One other benefit is that number of audience members in support of WGA strike are dwindling
Logain was able to see a glow around Rand, I think it was meant to be a gift... my best guess is, he could see Ta'veren (a power Nicola? displays much later on). When he talks about the event he speaks about knowing that Rand would cast the world into chaos, far more than he had. That was why he was laughing as they dragged him in to face Elayne's mother Morgase (in book 1).
I do disagree that nynaeve (from the books) is a 'irrelevant character', though she is certainly damn annoying at times. The problem is the show is trying to make her relevant about three or four books too early. It cannot allow her the time to grow organically and learn from her mistakes. It isn't just her power that is required, it is her connection to Rand, and ultimately her having faith in him sufficient to reject the Aes Sedai dogma. Aging up all the character's has had so many brutal implications, along with stealing every significant moment from the main trio... at this point the only reason for anyone to watch it is to point and laugh.
Yeah, I really disagree with him saying that Egwene and Nynaeve are irrelevant side characters.
@@multitimmytiger2 To be fair, they are at the moment. Yes, they were set up to be main characters during that time, but the major events revolved around others. Nothing would have changed to the current main plot if they hadn't been there.
@@multitimmytiger2 Their time in the White Tower is pretty boring. They advance in classes, get raised, and are sent to hunt the Black Ajah. The most interesting part is Mat regaining his strength and beating the snot out of Galad and Gawain.
Egwene doesn't really take off until book 4 when she goes to the Waste and comes into her own.
@@booshmcfadden7638 fair enough.
@@multitimmytiger2 The problem is, these books are ~30 years old now, so the 'irrelevant' aspects were fixed in the later novels, sic. Especially since the Ending cemented off a lot of plot ambiguity and dead ends, dropped ideas and forgotten threads.
I can guess that they decided to make Nynaeve and Egwene Ta'Veren because it was more equal.
This does not make the story better. It makes it much, much worse to make Nynaeve, the "Ugly" Braid-Tugging Mary Sue character... Tied to the core of the story. This means that Nynaeve ... IS more important to events than ANY OTHER CHARACTER at this point, because she does not have a pre-destined role to fulfill. i.e. Until there's something for her to do, she cannot be stopped. Mostly because she does not yet have a persona granted from the Pattern / Wheel itself. Once she has an imprint ... maybe she will be less of a Mary Sue. But until then, she's insufferable and unlikely to face consequences or repercussions.
Because, shit writing. This is why the "Upgraded" Wonder Girl Team is bankrupt, i.e. until she has a Ta'Veren imprint from the past, she's irrelevant. Her actions will bend towards what the story needs to happen, not because she understands or wants things to happen.
Being Ta'Veren isn't a good thing. It removes agency, and it creates knowledge gaps/writing problems, i.e. Whose knowledge/Experience will they inherit. Perrin inherits an entirely different set of genes when he becomes a wolf-brother, Matt becomes a General, Rand becomes the Mad Dragon Lews Therin Telamon, the man who broke the world by using balefire, erasing mountains and cities from the map as he went mad.
You can argue that it was always going to happen ... but that's Fate Magic. The Pattern needs someone to exist, so that the result is the same. This is a very time-travel oriented situation, i.e. It's probable that Egwene will become a former Amyrlin, but it's probably better for the story if Egwene inherits the 'redeemed' forsaken's knowledge of the era, in order to solve the problems of creating the seals and creating Magic Tools / Sa'Angreal and Quendilar, by having the knowledge of the Forsaken of the past.
Except, I think they'll pull a Rand Ex Machina and make her Persona , a female Aes Sedai/Witch/Wise One, sic. that created the Bore/Seal of the Dark One, and knows how to create the Binding Rod and other Ter'Angreal(s). i.e. to Save the Day.
Because they can save a lot of story writing if they Make Egwene the Ultimate Mary Sue Sedai.
The problems of the show tend to be magnified because they don't have the cast available. So instead of delaying or pre-filming scenes ... which would be normal in a show this complicated with 20-30 side characters, they decided to pair off characters to reduce the budget/co-ordination and consolidate characters into singular roles. A normal show would delay filming or film scenes in A/B/C location shoots so they could work in post-production, but I guess they filmed this during 2021/22 so ... they didn't plan ahead or delay the show. Which is telling.
IMO, what they did to Elayne/Min/Aviendha and Rand, they are aliens. 30 to 40 year old teenagers. It's going to get worse when Faile shows up, or Tuon, et al, because they're also going to want to be Special. The Wonder Girl Army, instead of the Wonder Girls.
It probably means Faile will turn into a 55 year old Scandinavian Fishwife, and Tuon will be a 400 pound angry black woman in her 40s, holding white slaves. Nynaeve and Rand are in their 30s Min, is late 30s, Aviendha/Elayne are late 20s, early 30s. By the time rand gets married... Min is going to be Rosamund Pike's age (sic) and the rest will be 30+.
Because it seems like they wanted to balance the story with Girl Bosses, the Girls who are the Key to Everything ... but for that to happen, since RJ is dead, they felt like it could be changed up. All problems exist in this conversion, because of what it means to be Ta'veren. They are Plot Armor characters, based off heroes of the past. Except for Nynaeve/Egwene, who are they inheriting ? The combining of characters just resembles vomiting plot out at this point, instead of reconstitution.
Nynaeve is kind of a consequence of that design/principle. Aging her up from ~24 to ... what is apparently 32, doesn't really work when Moiraine is ~40 ish. They also don't really articulate or show the ageless quality of the Aes Sedai.
I guess that's a problem of the casting process, that they only have Californians to choose from (sic). I suppose if you don't think about it, Lan is ~42, Nynaeve is 35 instead of 25 ... the problem of the show really is, making Nynaeve an intolerable, aggressive, beligerent, narcissistic know-it-all... she has nowhere to improve. She is a Girl Boss, so her actions cannot be questioned.
While I can understand that the casting creates significant book changes, the real issue is that the story doesn't work if you put the plot's heavy lifting on the girls. They aren't special enough. Their Plot armor is enough to keep them alive despite the Forsaken and the Darkfriends. While it's convenient in the beginning that Moiraine finds them through the spy network we never see ... (sic).
To a degree, they are Ta'veren adjacent, because, like all Aes Sedai, they are pawns of Fate, the Wheel of Time puts them where they are needed, or where they have to be, and to some extent, they have to live despite that fate, or they die and the pattern changes to reinsert others in that path. That's the consequence of having the one power. And, it's supposed to be a lesson taught by the Arches, that their Past, Present and Future isn't theirs anymore. If they fight against Fate, if they pursue their interests and refute the order, they can become separated from the pattern. The purpose of the Arches was to create reliable Pawns to Fate, not to create a matriarchal Tyrrany, the Ebou Dar society writ large.
That's the cost of using the power, i.e. it's Order Magic versus Chaos Magic.
The fact that you can wield Saidin/Saidar also puts you into the path of Chaos and Order Magic, writ large, because the Divinity, the source of Magic in the WoT'verse is a God of Order. The Pattern is tied to creation and order, hence why Balefire is something profound but exploitative, i.e. magic that destroys time, space and creation, cannot exist in a magic system unless the system is purposefully built on top of something else, likely Void or Chaos or a primal energy. (which you later find out in the books is the True Power, which may or may not be fully understood, sic.)
The visions in the Arches wasn't always intended to tempt people to stay there by being nice, they were designed to get the Novice to be engaged with the world they're presented, to accept it as their own -- for the good _and_ the bad -- because the bad can motivate them to try and change it, thereby adhering them more to that world, so they might not go back to their own.
That's about seven layers of complexity deeper than Raginor and Co. are capable of understanding...
But, yeah, you're absolutely right. The test for Accepted is to test the Novice's dedication to becoming an Aes Sedai. The test for Aes Sedai forces Accepted to channel while enduring extreme physical and mental challenges. So, I guess it makes sense that Raginor and Co. screwed it up.
I really don't get amazon.....this never works, they always lose money....why continue?
When I see a show filled with a "diverse cast" and "strong female characters" I know, it is a show where I'll only watch Disparu's reviews, but keep the hell away from the actual "show", as watching it would be close to self-mutilation.
That's not actually because of the (typically randomly unknown and unskilled) cast, but because of the woke incompetent show runners which never fail to deliver a story ChatGPT would have written better.
15:05 - The Lord of the Rings - "it's essentially a group of thieves that spend years trying to avoid the rightful owner in an attempt to commit criminal damage."
Yep, that's a good plot summary.
Nope. At best, you could consider Isildur a thief but he is betrayed by the Ring itself which is then lost for a very long time, randomly found, then lost again, before being fortuitously found again by Bilbo. In fact, Tolkien even hints through character conversations that a power outside of the world may have played a role in Bilbo’s luck there.
Also, the Ring isn’t just jewelry but also a weapon. So it would be like finding a drug dealer’s dropped Nine that had been used in a dozen shootings. Would you seek to return it or take it to authorities to be destroyed?
@@knotengajin7359 In the Hobbit it says:
"That's right," said Gandalf. "Let's have no more argument. I have chosen Mr. Baggins and that ought to be enough for all of you. If I say he is a Burglar, a Burglar he is, or will be when the time comes."
Then later:
His small hand would not close about it for it was a large and heavy gem; but he lifted it, shut his eyes, and put it in his deepest pocket. "Now I am a burglar indeed!" thought he.
Gollum is a reasonably reliable source, and says:
“Thief, thief, thief! Baggins!”
Still don't understand how book followers can enjoy this... it actively goes out of the way to destroy and subvert the book's material. Some of the changes are to support Judkins woke vision... others are just absolutely stupid...??? Thanks for the run downs Disapru! Always enjoy you "...taking the piss" out of this.
If you're actually interested in asking how people can enjoy this series, I recommend getting out of these Bookcloak echo chamber channels and actually listening to hear us instead of listening to reply with how wrong we are.
Most non-bookcloakers are reasonable people.
@@Adanu191 nobody who has read the books can possibly enjoy this series. and for people who havent read the books, its just a bad fantasy show with bad world building and boring characters. like the withcher tv show.
@@TheSuperappelflap I've read all the books, and I love the series, so have fun being wrong, I suppose?
@@Adanu191 yes, that is not allowed. you have to donate the books to charity now, hopefully they will end up with some kid that has taste.
@@TheSuperappelflap I'll get you a C for effort with that trolling attempt.
Amazon took down all my WoT reviews and my Rings of Power ones after being up for a year. Lol.
They think that removing bad reviews somehow makes the show better.
Amazon: Lore was never option
*Magneto theme intensifies*
I just started reading the first Wheel of Time book. I'm a few chapters in, but I'm hooked! So thanks, Disparu, for introducing me to this world, even though it came through the creation of this mess of a show :P
Same here disparus review of this awful show made me read the books too. I am currently on the second book. And honestly the first book is sooooo wonderful believe me you are in for a ride. Mat and rands are such good friends that it makes you cry in a certain chapter in the first book. Believe me you will laugh and be tense for the characters in the first book
@@winxclubflora8446 I'm now about to start chapter 16 (as I said, I'm hooked!), and you're right- I care about the characters and so far it's been a really, REALLY great read :D
Same here mate
I feel I should point out that book-Nynaeve was actually quite crucial to the story. Not for any reasons given in the show tho.
She’s crucial for many small things along the story and 1 large act. Just give it to someone else. The small acts aren’t going to happen.
"These rings will cause unimaginable suffering."
...
...
"GET SABINE OVER HERE NOW!"
I refused to watch the show because I knew they were going to destroy it. I have reread the series multiple times because it’s such a good story.
Aaahh, finally we get back to destroying any remaining hope Disparu may have had left.
As someone who's never read the books, I've been watching this series trying to figure out who the main character is supposed to be. Rand obviously should be more important as he's the man/boy who's the key to everything but I don't understand how Mat and Perrin are supposed to fit in. In the mean time, the femmes seem to have been imported from a different tv series (Game of Drones?). Oddly, Disparu's attention to book details has made me interested in reading the books.
Do it. The audiobooks are also excellent (I can't speak for the new iteration that Rosamund Pike did) if that is more your thing.
Now, I have not seen the show - my exposure to it is purely from watching and reading reviews but that alone is enough to indicate that all it seems to have in common with the books are character and location names.
Me, too. I dropped off the series around Book 6 or 7 but I heard another author completed the series after Robert Jordan passed away and wrapped things up really well. So Disparu and Shad have made me want to re-read and finish the books.
lets jusy say that in the books, Rand, Mat and Perrin all three have very important roles to play in different places to make certain events happen a certain way.
In this tv show Perrin and Mat are treated like side characters that are only used to introduce new plot points to the viewer, like the Seanchan.
If they had followed the books, there was some question as to who the Dragon was (though it was obviously Rand to the reader), as Rand, Mat and Perrin were born very close together. They are also ta'veren themselves which indicates an importance to events possibly in confluence with the Dragon. Min's visions eventually show them to be vital to Rand's success somehow. Given the constraints necessitated by an adaptation, the story should heavily focus on the three of them, with the primary three women, Moiraine and Lan and cut out a great deal of the secondary content. I don't know exactly what the proper balance should be, but I'm not a writer. I do know that simply rewriting the story to downplay the men and build up the women was a terrible idea. Diversifying a remote backwater was also asinine. I only watched the first ten minutes of episode one, but the feel of everything was so off, I knew it was going to be terrible.
I loved the arches part of the books, and I felt the books spent about as much time as they needed to on the arches. It invited questions and then moved on because what happens on the other side of the arches is cool but fundamentally irrelevant. It's kinda the point; to do what you want and need to do you have to prove you have the gumption to do it even without your memories and surrounded by distractions.
Please address the fanfic-ification of big budget media. Why did Tumblr-ites actually get big writing jobs?!
Possibly they're the only people willing to live in LA?
I read the books, not watching the show. But ill check out these reviews to laugh at Amazon.
If it wasn't for Disparu, some of us wouldn't even survive shows like this and Ahsoka. He sacrifices his sanity for our sake. He is keeping us sane one video at a time
Willow of Time
I remember shaking my head in disbelief at the rings trials. Every single time Nynaeve passes through a ring, it's not because she's choosing to return from a better life, it's because the illusion gives her nothing to stay for. Every time, the illusion shows her her world falling apart, the people she loves dying, etc. There is NO TRIAL.
The only time where there is an actual trial (the first return ring of the third trial), SHE IMMEDIATELY FAILS.
SHE ONLY RETURNS BECAUSE SHE GETS A SECOND RING AFTER EVERYTHING SHE LIVES FOR HAS COLLAPSED, GIVING HER NOTHING TO STAY FOR.
THERE IS NO TRIAL.
Wheel of time still has better costumes then Rings of Power
To be fair, Rings of Power sets the bar so low that not even the dwarves could dig it up.
Both have dogshit stories thou.
@@waylander9265 yeah. but Wheel of Time could make the costumes in more then one layer xD
@disparu the worst bit about the matt/Min in jail scene is that matt has to hide his hole all the time, yet mins side is never covered up when matt looks in, so how on earth did min survive since obviously the captors never fed her cos if they did they'd of seen the gaping hole :|
as for the tavern fire i thought it as typical man falling asleep after sex trope then the dream
When nynaeve gets traped in the test (in the show) and the trollics show up, i think that is supposed to be the part from the books where the trollocs attack the two rivers and shen she sees the gate she is supposed to walk twords it, but she instead decides to fight, unleashing balefire. When she finnally does leave through the gate and arives back in the real world, the ades sadi are all pissed because she nearly destroyed the device and almost killed everyone in the room.
So i can kinda see where this scene was supposed to come from, though it it sad to see it come off the rails like that....
It's been a very long time since I read that book. Was that the bit where the ter'angreal (the dreamer's ring maybe?) reacted with the arches, even though the Aes Sedai in the room didn't realize that was what caused the test to go wonky? Or was that something to do with Egwene's test later?
"Let me know what you thought of what you saw down below?". It's hairy, is as much detail I'm willing to go into in public!
There wasn't a "test" exactly for the Seanchan to find channelers. They just put the collars on every woman they run across. Anyone who would be or is channeling actively (accidental, Wilding, Aes Sedai, etc) becomes Damane because the collar activates and anyone who could learn to channel but hasn't actively touched the Power reacts to the bracelet and becomes Sul'Dam.
There are more POC's in this European medieval fantasy show than in Africa and India combined.
5:30 I love the idea that she goes to tackle him, and just bounces off like a piece of paper while he gets riddled lol....femedia is hilariously bad 😂😂😂
I'm just counting the days until the musical episode. Rafe once said in an interview that he loved Buffy the Vampire Slayer to the point that he wished he could put Buffy in the Wheel of Time, and that "Once More With Feeling" is his favorite episode.
I haven't watched the series or read the books. Based on these reviews, it's probably better not to watch the series to better enjoy the books if I every read them.
Just gotta help you remember a bit. 1) Nynaeve is supposed to forget the way back exist each time, but the repeating words “the way back will come but once” remind her of a desperate need to return.
2) in the books the archway DOES actually appear more then once for her despite hearing it should only happen once.
But great review all the same xD
I think Disparu is craving strawberries 😂
I just read the first book and now I am about 1/2 way through the second. That being said I couldn’t even make it through the 2nd episode of season 1, and was disgusted by how amazon treated the story, it was almost as bad as rings of power
Disparu just kicking a corpse now 😂
This show is impressively bad. To be honest this bothers more than Rings of Power. A lot of the things in Rings of Power are wrong, but we don't have the exact details so to me the offense is less. This we know exactly what is supposed to happen and what it means to the greater story, and they still screw everything up. Their failure is so complete it feels like an intentional insult to fans of the source material.
Also, why is Logain so... devious? Logain was... broken, unable to find meaning or purpose in his life, especially post-Gentling.
He was never devious, or cruel-seeming. He was a broken shadow of a man, who was yet still destined to be great, to LEAD, INSPIRE.
Random thing wrong #5,789: The Seanchan armor is supposed to be very dark green, not gold.
The only reason I look forward to new episodes of Wheel of Time, is to watch you shred them to ribbons. I gave up watching the show long ago, but I never miss one of your reviews. Congratulations…you are far more entertaining, at the fraction of the cost. No wonder Hollywood hates you. Keep it up good sir. 👏
Lisandro’s jawline reminds me so much of those cow catchers they put on trains 🤷🏻♂
The Reels of Time
Or
What do you mean THIS Breaks Canon?
Is she related to Robert Z'Dar (the guy with the huge jaw in Tango and Cash)... she looks like she's his little sister...
Those Seanchan helmets absolutely suck. They're described as looking like enormous insect heads...these things look like poorly 3d printed Joker masks.
"It's why nobody eats strawberries." 😂
Oh great!
Another breakdown of another episode of the *Wheel of Feminism*
I stopped watching this series as soon as they tried to pull the whole "the Dragon could be male or female" crap in the first couple episodes. I am so glad I didn't try to stick with it.
Also, "red is dead" is a saying in The Sword of Truth by Terry Goodkind, my second favorite fantasy series, where the villain actually cursed red fruit as a way to try to kill as many people opposing him as possible. How dare they try to pull that into this absolute shitshow.
However, I have to say, the whole "unless it comes twice" thing about "the way back will appear only once" did actually happen in the books, however, it happened for Egwene much later in the series. Which, again, was a bastardization of the series as there was a *reason* for it coming twice at that point.
That was thoroughly entertaining. I enjoy watching Disparu's reviews more than I enjoy actual telly. Correction: I dont even bother watching actual telly.
LIterally Aes Sedai means "Servant of All". Doing the trials for yourself is the antithesis of everything the group stands for!
This plays like a fan fiction. But you know... One where the author clearly didn't understand what happened, why, moral lessons, characters' motivations, or things like setting... plot...
I don't necessarily think the person should be fired, but a metaphorical smack upside the head, and some tutoring is clearly necessary. Because it's like it has all of the thought and artistic vision of an 8 year old (and that's me being favourable).
The First of Mayene is a descendent of Arther Hawkwing, but none of the other rulers of the kingdoms that formed on that continent after his empire collapsed are.
Tbf Sheriam is of the Black Ajah so her showing zero remorse and sympathy to Egwene does make some kind of sense if you squint at it real hard.
4:26 "Red is dead".
And so, show Nynaeve spent her whole life avoiding tomatoes, apples, cranberries, strawberries, raspberries, radishes, cherries, red grapes, pomegranates etc.
These writers are geniuses 🙏
And raw meat
and fish.
And gingers
What there's a season 2 already?
I love your "rands". But regarding the scene where Logain sees Rands aura, you're wrong. That is exactly from the books. Logain does not see him channeling or him being a user of the one power in that scene. He can see that he is ta'veren. And he does so exactly like it is described in the books, as a light that is glowing around Rand. That is his special ability. Siuan Sanche has this ability, too, for example.
Book spoilers: I just re-read this scene. Gate One: Nynaeve walks into a past life and fights a Forsaken with the One Power. Discovery: Nynaeve realizes just how powerful the enemies are, and she is going to be have to become an Aes Sedai to fight them. Temptation: Nynaeve discovers that the Forsaken are not sealed properly. Decision: Nynaeve goes back to the White Tower to learn how to properly seal the Forsaken permanently even though it means that they might escape in the short term. It's important to remember that short sightedness, overconfidence, and single mindedness are Nynaeve's weaknesses. She had to think more than one step ahead. That scene feels like it was made to be dramatized. Rafe's choice undermines not only the message but Nynaeve's character.
When I read the books I always pictured Nynaeve as looking like Christina Ricci and the WOT CCG artwork reinforced that image. To see her being played by that actress they chose really annoys me.
I honestly don’t mind any of the castings. Except for Perrin, Aviendha, and Min. Perrin and Aviendha because how they look is narratively important, and the showrunner just doesn’t care. And Min because she honestly looks 20 years too old.
I think that casting is one of the most annoying ones, tbh. Just because they obviously didn't cast her for her acting ability. And she doesn't look or even seem like the character either...so why *did* they cast her?
the only character that might be cast semi decently is Mat, but i cant tell because he hasnt really done anything yet.
all the others including Rand look confused all the time.
which tbh i probably would be as well if i was them.
I ate strawberries while watching this. Not sure how long I have before I shed the mortal coil.
One thing that pisses me off is the "locked and loaded" stance archers in TV make. Anyone who has drawn a bow knows how idiotic it is to hold it for a long period when there is no target. Nock the arrow and wait. Doesn't take long to draw and release.
Me too. Drives me mad. The orcs do it in the LotR films too. It's like the filmmakers think that archers are like musketeers who level the piece and fire a volley to order. As you say an archer draws and looses in one movement, especially one drawing a heavy war bow. I also get annoyed when people talk about firing a bow, you loose an arrow or shoot a bow
Tf is happening with Rand lol He works at an asylum and now he's a lord all of a sudden? 😂 In the books he got mistaken for a lord in Shienar because of his name A'l which is a title. Then Moiraine gave him fancy clothes and threw away all his old clothes... he stays at an Inn Cairhien and gets mistaken for playing the game of houses when he lied and would not tell anyone who and what he was really doing there. In fact he was just waiting for the others to show up in Cairhien too. He got invitation from Nobles who thought he was someone so important.
And we also missed the off screen revenge of Thom killing the king of Cairhien.
IQ test for hollywood writers would leave like three... you know the 3 old guys about to be forced retired...
Disparu's brand of hilarious anarchy... I don't understand why the world's armies don't employ tiny little girls
Could they have at LEAST tried a LITTLE?? Those gals look like they're wearing bed sheets as COSTUMES! Maybe if they had a million dollars an episode they could have added in a piece of plastic armor lol.........
Men cannot see when another man can channel, but it is possible that Logain does not realize this. He has a talent to see Ta'veren, and might be confusing that glow with some sign of channeling. Of course, that would lead him to assume Matt and Perrin are also powerful channelers.
I still can't believe they ruined books that could not be ruined. Amazon must be stopped.
How are the books ruined?
Also, it wasn’t that you couldn’t channel or it wasn’t against the rules for you to channel, but you were supposed to not remember that you could channel once you went through the arches. They were amazed that she not only did channel but that she even remembered that she could and that she remembered any weaves.
34:42 "Well... I am fairly sure you are not capable of flight..."
They obviously hate RJ. Truly trying their best to ruin a masterpiece
What they did here does not make sense... in the book Nynaeve was so strong in the one power they didn't want to let her wander off so they immediately made her accepted. Here they made her do nothing for weeks then decide to make her accepted... after what? After she got bored out of her mind doing nothing but chores? 😅 It makes sense to make her accepted immediately and have her do some real training since they didn't want her running away...
It was also because she was too old to be a novice by Aes Sedai custom, so making her Accepted immediately was an easy bypass to that problem. All of this is a really efficient way to highlight how much the Aes Sedai valued Nynaeve, rather than the constant sitting around talking
I agree with the show that Borderlanders wouldn't be able to swear false oaths. And the Seanchan damane are weak with Earth, so "roiling the entire ground" is not something they could do. Only Egwene could do that, which is why Egwene is such a valuable damane.
But well done spotting that men who can channel don't glow in the books. I missed that part when I watched the scene.
"Everybody survives for their entire life."
Hard to argue with that...
''Tis show is Another example of why many current "writers" have no work.
Let the strike continue! Purge them all!
I've taken up bint in my catalog of insults thanks to you 😊
What about "cow" and "pissing" too? 😂
😂 can’t wait to see what they do with the Black Tower, that should be…. Interesting 😂😂😂😂😂
For some reason I can't see this video, resolution options only
Alright, let me get my blankie. This is gonna be a long one 😅
The power of fallopian tubes!
This show could even be a whole lot funnier if Ezra Miller aka Ezmerelda joined the cast.
The Wokier the Wackier.