I had the album of "Kal ho na ho". The cover clearly mentioned Roy Orbison's name and the "Pretty woman" song was a licensed version of the original. A licensed version is not a copied version.
@@spotifyloverpk aap aise hi baat karte hai kya stranger se? Sahi hai, maine trivia bata diya jo kahi pe suna tha.. maine wahi kaha jo suna hai is gaane k bare me😜
Starting ki dhun hi to main hoti h yarrr,woi se gana shuru hota h,or sbse jyda mehnat startng me hi hoti h badke lyrics or beat to apne ap baith jati h,or humare bollywood wale bhaiyo ne israel ki national anthem tk nai chodi,wo gana hana,""""mera mulk mera desh mera ye watan shanti ka unnati ka pyar ka chaman""""ye sunna or israel ki national anthem,rd burman ko me pehle bht respct krta ta,rd burman,rajesh roshan,evn kuch kishor kumar ke b songs fully copied h,in logo ke ye lagta ta india ki janta chutiya h 90% logo tk to ye baat kabi pahucegi hi nai,par ye to bhala ho modiji ka sasta net dediya to inki chori chakari bahr agai,itni purani histry,geography sangeet ky nai h is desh ke pass,par bollywood propoganda or chori pe hi banayega,my name is khan,main hoon na bas yei dikhao ke hindustan pura kharab h,indian army se leke polic,hindu sb harami h,or bichare shanti priye majhub pr hamla krta h hindu,jbki actual ky h wo sb dekh hi rae h shaheen baug se leke rajasthan,bengal tk ky hora h hinduo ka haal,ye kaisi vidambna h ki hanuman chalisa bolne wale ko jail hoti h,or allah ho akbar jiska litral meaning ye h ki there is srf allah nothng else,usko iphone diya jata h
My mom used to say that people can not make so many different songs. It's not always possible to make different songs with different beats. Sometimes newer songs need inspiration from older songs.
U were wrong in many things. Some times if the base line is similar to another song, they'll sue. I think it also depends on how many chords are similar, if both songs are in the same key or tempo, etc. Even if the clip seeming seeming to be copied just a few seconds the original creator can sue them
Didi is a very famous arabic song from 1991 by khaled. There have been various adaptations of it in different languages including milk and honey. Dedi was adaptation of that song.
@@ankitjoshi90 Exactly. That's the soul and the defining part of that song. If that is copied then whole song u can call copied. This guys contradicts himself when says that "Dhoom Machale ka main tune toh copy nahi tha na" and then for " Tip Tip he says "sirf main tune hi copy thi na pura gaana toh nahi"... 😜
@@gauravgandi1398 just the hook cannot be equated with the whole song. Sure, it's the most recognisable part of the song, but to say that "hook copied = whole song copied" is reaching. If that was the case, music directors should just compose the hook and leave the rest of the song to their unpaid interns.
@@scientia.veritas Tanishq Bagchi will be very happy with your logic. He copies the mains parts of the original and beech me rap and karcha bhar deta hai.
This was so needed. The label of "copy paste" has been rotting a lot of heads. The way you explained every song with humour, honesty and logic. Appreciate your work, man.
Starting ki dhun hi to main hoti h yarrr,woi se gana shuru hota h,or sbse jyda mehnat startng me hi hoti h badke lyrics or beat to apne ap baith jati h,or humare bollywood wale bhaiyo ne israel ki national anthem tk nai chodi,wo gana hana,""""mera mulk mera desh mera ye watan shanti ka unnati ka pyar ka chaman""""ye sunna or israel ki national anthem,rd burman ko me pehle bht respct krta ta,rd burman,rajesh roshan,evn kuch kishor kumar ke b songs fully copied h,in logo ke ye lagta ta india ki janta chutiya h 90% logo tk to ye baat kabi pahucegi hi nai,par ye to bhala ho modiji ka sasta net dediya to inki chori chakari bahr agai,itni purani histry,geography sangeet ky nai h is desh ke pass,par bollywood propoganda or chori pe hi banayega,my name is khan,main hoon na bas yei dikhao ke hindustan pura kharab h,indian army se leke polic,hindu sb harami h,or bichare shanti priye majhub pr hamla krta h hindu,jbki actual ky h wo sb dekh hi rae h shaheen baug se leke rajasthan,bengal tk ky hora h hinduo ka haal,ye kaisi vidambna h ki hanuman chalisa bolne wale ko jail hoti h,or allah ho akbar jiska litral meaning ye h ki there is srf allah nothng else,usko iphone diya jata h
@@damn3876 I understand but plagiarism is crime and people must hate those music director like pritam, annu Malik and viju Shah cuz our country reputation on the line
Pretty Woman by Shankar Ehsaan Loy was officially declared even before the film released. I think they even took the copyright of the original and I think it was also mentioned in the audio cassette.
About "Pretty Women", if we check the credits of the album, it was mentioned there that this song is inspired by the American Song "Oh Pretty Women". They have given the credits for it properly. I think this was mentioned on their Wikipedia page as well. Infact, even if you check the credits of the official song on UA-cam, they have very clearly mentioned Roy Obrinson's name as the music composer as well as the lyricist. So no, "Pretty Women" from Kal Ho Naa Ho is not copied, instead is rightfully inspired. And besides, Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy are just so true to their art and are sooo amazing with their work, it would be absolutely unbelievable if they ever did any such thing. The songs they have given to the industry are just pure gold. It would have been better if Schoop Whoop did their research properly.
@@HaBeeV It would have been better if you would have paid attention to the title of article properly. And it would have been even better if you knew English properly. Perhaps, then you could understand the concept of vaguely related words used as synonyms in a particular context. Unnecessarily rude hone hi zaroorat nhi h. If you can't be respectful, the least you can do is keep mum and ignore and walk ahead. Now please don't bother replying.
An entire song's structure doesn't need to be 'sampled' for it to have the title of 'copied'. Ice Ice Baby by Vanilla Ice had sampled just the bassline of Queen & David Bowie's hit song "Under Pressure", and also changed a note in the baseline. But still, considering the significance of the bassline(maybe), Queen sued Vanilla Ice and the court passed the judgment in their favor.
@@navinsharma1443 the odds of successive notes matching coincidentally is extremely unlikely. 1 in millions, I think. It's possible only in standard riffs and scales.
One thing I want to add, These songs sounds similar cause when a music producer listens to many music pieces that music mixes with other pieces unconsciously and gives new music. This factor happens to me.
True Try writing a song, most of the words come in mind which you have already listened. Also our brain actively tries to match the songs and find similarities.
@@b.k5991 Bhai tum bhi thode fancy ho jao. Sampling and copying are two very different things; without sampling, music wouldn't have evolved to where it is today. It's like saying "uski recipe pe aloo boil kiye the, main apni recipe me aloo boil karuga to copy ho jaega"
Defaming only Pritam is always what they do since 2 decades... Definitely he copied but his music arrangement and choice is way more than others. Pritam is major part of bollywood music's revolution which you love but still they are hating him with considering Tanishk Bagchi as their legend 😉
You can never find a person in the whole universe who " hates on pritam and consider Tanishk Bagchi as their legend" . None of them make originals , Pritam's remakes are just better
As a K-content fan I'm heart broken about "Paheli Nazar main" , I'm die heart fan of this song and I was so proud of creativity of an Indian artist... But my heart shank
Basically it is not about copyied or inspired , its about where u get the initial idea of composition of the song which is the most important and difficult thing in the first place. When you get the initial push rest of the song making is easy. Also most of the song is written after composition, lyricist write the song by listening to the composition.
I would disagree with your take on "inspired songs". If a director lifts even a single tune or a section as it is without giving the original creator any credit, then the song shouldn't be considered as his/her "original work" even if the rest of the song is originally composed or another instrument is used. I would call it an "inspiration" only when a director makes at least some alterations to the tune he/she is inspired from. If a composer wants to lift the tune as it is, then he/she should do so by giving credits or obtaining permission (as Shankar- Ehsaan - Loy and Vishal-Shekhar did for Pretty Woman and Dildaara, respectively). I think the main issue is not blatantly lifting the songs or sections, but not giving credits to the original creator. On the other hand, some people do get carried away and call similar sounding lines or sections as "copied" even though they're not blatant lifts. Love your content though...
Does "Chandni Raat Hai" from Baaghi (1990) count as an inspiration? Many have claimed it to be ripped off from the Tamil song "Kelladi Kanmani" from the 1989 film Pudhu Pudhu Arthangal, but if you listen to both songs, there is barely any resemblance between the songs, aside from the rhythm and a few instruments like the flute.
@@gentlekannada ain't that the case with all famous musicians? They got plenty of arrangers, very rarely they sit and arrange stuff. The hardest part is saying no and cutting out parts and giving us the best final track.
@@talkswithvigy7860 m sory that's not d hardest part. Creating a track takes like 4 continious days. Saying no takes few mins. So no. Nd if arranger creates then composr only does the tune which is stolen so watbus his combination
I tried to convince myself that you were right... but bro... as an architect i can say that even similar concepts and ideas can be called (not claimed) copying, if the creator specifically mention he is inspired.
1. The dedi song was inspired by Khalid's didi...it was a 90's hit! But the sequence in that movie justified it...they were in the 90's. 2. Shankar Ehshaan Loy had taken official rights for pretty woman. That appears prominently in the album label.
The culture thing you mentioned for "Pretty women" is valid for "dedi" song as well, main character based in middle east and didi song by cheb khalid was massive in Arab countries
A very true fact Copying and being inspired are 2 very different things Like my favourite Music Composer Jatin-Lalit were also inspired from some tunes which they used in their songs like the piano piece from Pehla Nasha or Guitar piece from Jab kisi ki taraf or even Woh toh hai albela was inspired from the song 'Rimjhim gire Sawan' by RD Burman
Yes, the guy is being too literal with the word copy here. It's very obvious that many songs in this list were the base on which the Bollywood versions were composed. As a composer myself, I can see how one can copy the first couple of melodies and change the next two to avoid copyright issues. Video uploader is acting super naive.
@@dharmiksamani8258 Anyone associated with art field knows how invaluable the original idea is. Copying others art and tweaking it a bit is thousand times easier than creating your own unique art.
I agree there have been numerous examples in Western music. the opening of Iron Maiden's Two minutes to Midnight is similar to Rory Gallagher's Moonchild. Sam Smith's Stay with me is a bit similar to tom Petty's 'I Wont back down' and the list goes on..
@@virajgupte3357 Yep. If you're into Anime / J - Pop music, you'd see that a lot of those songs sound similar at some instances because of frequent use of some chord progressions
Rahul, the issue is not the chord progression but the blatant theft of melodies. There can be hundreds of songs with the same chord progression and each can have a different melody built on it. So copying melodies is still copying. All the examples highlighted in the video were melodies and not chord progressions. Of course there's only a limited number of scales and chord progressions. Melodies on the other hand can be endless
The issue is Bollywood composers not giving any credit to the sample used, you need to take permission from the original record label. Bollywood has also copied from South composers like Illayaraja.
Hypocrisy is when you have to distort even a single line of any music for fear of copyright strike and you say copying 2 lines is not enough to call it copy😂
Pretty Woman’s rights were officially bought by Dharma Productions for Kal Ho Naa Ho…and it’s antara melody is same as the original with a few melodic changes in Mukhda.
Actually dil cheez tujhe dedi is inspired from Arabic song dedi by khalid, and that song was played in the movie hadh krdi aapne also, during that TV sequence of Govinda
3:48 No. You cant call that sampling . Sampling is when you take am original piece of audio , turn it into something else or build another track on that original audio by creating a loop .
I agree with your distinction of Copy v Inspired but at the same time, have to admit a lot of songs have been sued for even less than this. Two incidents that come to my mind are 'Bittersweet Symphony' for it's prelude orchestra sued by Rolling Stones, Verve lost the battle and now all the royalty from that song goes to Rolling Stones rather than Verve and they never had a similar success ever. Second is Ice Ice Baby by Vanilla Ice which uses the same hook tune in the beginning as that of Under Pressure by Queen ft David Bowie, rest of the songs are very different but that starting was straight up lifted by Vanilla Ice (there is a hilarious interview where he tries to prove that the tunes are different because he changed the key in one note)
I didn't know this fact about bittersweet symphony, I mean it's one of my all time favorite songs. I have also followed Stones a bit, but i doubt any song of theirs has a similarity to the Verve song in question.
Exactly! He says he comes from music background and still says like its not copied just inspired. If these songs are taken to court almost all of these will loose the lawsuit.
The rolling stones one is weird.They had the license to use it but they used more of it.Also Ashcroft did a stupid decision of selling the song to Allan Klein that fucked upt he whole thing apart
Regarding Pretty Woman, Dharma Productions actually bought rights of the original song so that they could use the tune. Nothing wrong there and the context is bang on what you said. It seems like SRK's character took Pretty WOman as an inspiration and remoulded a hindi song around it, comes off much more realistic. Regarding Dedi, the song you heard is not the original, this song or rather that hook part has been used and reused multiple times and is a common trope to establish an Arabic theme. It was used in a Govinda film as well, where he was changing his disguise behind a TV monitor (hilarious scene btw)
When ARR took inspiration from Choli Ke Piche, he actually mentioned that. If he hadn't mentioned that, no one would have even realised it. That's called inspired songs, and yes if the initial tunes are copied it's copied.
Nope I dont agree with you brother sometimes artists unknowingly “copy” songs because they listen to world music and it gets embeded into their subconscious. Even Tarantino blatantly steals the scenes of other movies and not from a single source and he has accepted it but he will not go around to mention each filmmaker’s name because he adds his creativity to it and takes the “copied “scene to another level. People like you will call that creativity but when some cues and tunes are “copied” from other songs but the arrangement, instrumentation and singing is different then too people will disregard the artists completely. Also I am not justifying blatant plagiarism of songs in Bollywood and I am not naive to the fact that this happens but the whole point of the video was to say that not all the songs that sound a bit similar are copied.
there's a site called splice where creators make their tracks and put them for use by other artists nowadays. i believe it's possible that more than one artist can choose a particular track for their songs and the songs would then end up having some slight similarities. Just because a certain piece of the song ends up having the same rhythm/groove/arpeggios, doesn't mean it's 'copied'. this is what happens when u try to become cool in front of ur friends by throwing some unchecked factssssss in front😂
Much needed video, I am from a background of Literature student, there is a theory given by Aristotle and Plato which was called MIMESIS that means Imitation and its an important thing in an art, whether Literature or music Even great poets like Chaucher who is considered as father of English Poetry at first copied much from Italian renessaince poets but still he used something of his own that was his excellent narrative skill, then later he produced his own Masterpiece "Canterbury Tales" which was his original idea even in that too somethings are taken, Even Shakespeare got inspired by many but he made it his own, thats called Art, you can take a thing but to make it an original is on yours. Sau baat ki ek baat Even Imitation actually helps an artist so he can learn and explore and discover, hnn it should not be copied just as it like pritam did with Paheli nazar me song but still there is much thing in music like Composition, choosing of instruments, Arrangements, beat patterns or percussions, so I agree you can't say this one is copied, it certainly shows you are a layman if you say so.
Unfortunately, in spite of having a background in literature, you seem to be misguided about the entire purport of Mimesis. When Aristotle mentioned it, he did not mean that art is an imitation of other art, he meant that art is an imitation of life, meaning art is a mimetic representation of reality, truth, fact, etc. A more refined version of the same is from the domain of design, when someone like Bruno Munari says 'form follows function'. Secondly, Plato is in fact criticized for the theory of Mimesis as it fails to account for the originality that adds a distinct flavour to the art that is missing in reality itself. It's quite rich to call others ignorant when you may not have properly looked at the subject of discussion yourself. :)
@@museruse1 i guess you are not able to understand what i said anything there, and just started giving unnecessary Textual readings of Mimesis here, also I ll suggest you first talk in context and instead of finding faults in others, first try to comprehend something. Plato was the one who introduced the word Mimesis but havent you used your mind how Aristotle replied to it Whatever you stated about mimesis is right and FYI I know that but first read my comment carefully here i am using of Mimesis in different context, that how it helps a new artist as GB shaw said Imitation is the sincerest form of Learning. Art is certainly not an Imitation of other art, when did I say that, Aristotle firstly say by defending mimesis that It's feel a great pleasure in Imitation and this is the reason why babies love to imitate and this Imitation is the way of Learning new things. my argument is limited to this only, i haven't started talking about Other things cuz its not much familiar here about how Art is a representation of life,reality etc. I am more interested it how Mimesis helps an artist to understand Art and then explore it , i guess you haven't read chaucer, how he used the techniques of Boccaccio,petrarch, dante in his early works, even look at all those earlier works of him. This is why great poets and dramatist have used Imitation to learn first. In literature that Imitation can be of Narrative style, meters, but as i have said, it shouldn't be as similar as simply like copying it, there is something like honest imitation and I guess you haven't read the later part of my comment, and ya Aristotle was saying this that Imitation gives pleasure but I haven't said his arguments or analysis of mimises Not only Aristotle, many great thinkers came and talked about Imitation. dude use your mind, Its Imitation that makes us to learn new things. If you have had read the history of literature, you would not have given such a layman reply starting with ad hominem, Grow up
@@rishabhrockstar5739 And there you go again calling people names... Interesting that you mention 'ad hominem'. Well, calling people names to prove yourself right, or giving angry word ejaculations devoid of meaning in the answers is a textbook example of 'argumentum ad lapidem' or 'ad lapidem' arguments. Secondly, by talking about Aristotle and Plato, and later about George Bernard Shaw, you are the one who is giving ad hominem arguments, man. Your accusations to me don't even make sense. Let me explain it to you simply now, for you to understand easily. In the context of this video, (as you asked for context (though it should have been abundantly clear) I submit that imitation of smaller parts doesn't mean it's not imitation. Imitating someone else's creation without attribution is called plagiarism. The quantum of imitation is irrelevant. Just because imitation has been done in the past, or it gives pleasure, or some renowned philosophers think it's ok doesn't automatically make it right. Honest imitation would include citations of sources. If you really believed you could argue with logic and rationality, you wouldn't have gotten so triggered at someone's disagreement. I'd urge you to please understand the ingredients of a healthy discussion. :) Finally, please don't ask me to grow up, I'm happy as I am. :)
Bhool bhulaiya title track is also often blamed for plagiarism while I find the background tune only being copied. The official remake of that song was just released today and for the first time, I found a Baghchi remake nostalgic…
@@raja-jl9os bhojpuri movie ko gaali dene keliye pehle usey dekhna toh padega 😂😂 kisi ke paas itna time nahi hai ki woh ek bhojpuri movie pe barbaad kare
bahot accha lagta hai jb apke jaise youtuber ko appriciation milta hai...because you are the rare one who actually have sence of humour and pure touch of sangeet...you are not the person who serve other things under the garb of some classy or catchy channel name....you are the true sangeetartist... I was not very found of music..but since i started watching your videos I actully started following music in more cautious way....rest your channel is contegious...thats it😇
Man I love ur videos. And I have personally recommended it to a lot a people. But akhir wo din aa hi gayaa when I don't agree with ur views on something. I do agree that to say the whole song is copied in these scenarios will be wrong , bt to leave them saying they were just inspired will be wrong too. Specially when 90% of those songs had copied the best part of those songs from somewhere else. For example the theme tone of Tip Tip , that's the best thing about it and it's copied. Didi song was one of my most fav songs from my childhood , and I was really heartbroken when they copied it. but chalo agree to disagree this time once. Will be waiting for you next video to get back to the path of agreement again 😁
I disagree with him on this one as well, even without reading any article, first time listening to the "dedi" song I quickly recalled "didi" from my childhood, this can't just be a coincidence. Although the whole song is not copied, but copying the hook is no less. But boy, yours is the most respectful disagreement I've ever seen yet.
Copied Songs nahi hone chahiye jb original Compostion ni ho paa rahi bollywood se to vo new freshers ko mauka de ! In logo ki wajah se real talent kabhi bhi front pr ni aa pata🥺🥺😭😭
True and these people dont know the concept of sampling...tbh if we go by their concept of plagiarism even levitating by dua lipa is copied which fyi has been cleared by the court that it is not copied. I can name thousands of songs in kpop which are sampled from other artists' work. Also Ariana grande and taylor swift songs also sample.
Almost all of the songs on this list are indeed copied. It would even classify as a copy even if directors are picking parts of the song. Most of the directors would take a catchy tune from a famous song and then build a song around it or change the tempo, change instruments or arrange musix slightly differently but having original parts in a song doesn't change the fact the copied parts were blatantly used without giving credits. Also it's not just rhythm that is common between these songs. Most of the chords progression are exactly the same.
Exactly All those songs are either inspired or may be copied in some ways.Director took a part and then add some of creativity of his own and then make it a whole new song .
@@bipra6032 If that's the hook of the song, or the most prominent portion, then the song is identified based on that. Of course, the whole song is not copied exactly, but that may have been the first part of the song to be made. The law is also clear on the same. Even if a part of the song is copied, it's illegal. When someone uploads a video saying that if some portions are copied it shouldn't be a big deal, it's an insult to the original creator who isn't credited with it. Plagiarism is the worst thing that can happen to an artist.
Whole heartedly agree. Inspite of I like him for analysis; sometimes it is flawed. For example he says that only two lines of Pal Pal appears copied. But it is ditto same, and for majority of listeners those lines are the identifier. And If out of 100; if 90 feels that it is copied, and then it is copied. second example. I have grown up with Didi of Khaled. When I heard Didi of Airlift; the first thing strike me was Khaled. And these are big musician [who has copied or got inspired], with this one flick of inspiration; they can make the whole song.
11:31 it was a very good movie. Even our favourite movies such as Notebook, Do lafzo ki baatein,etc are also copied from old Korean movies. Recently Tiger Shroff's album with Shraddha also copied the whole song Peaches by Kai and the audacity to not even give a small thanks. It's an insult to an artistic soul.!
13:41 Bro Sangeetarist... Pretty Woman song was Legally remade with permissions of the original creators & the label. It's not inspired... It's just a re-make. SEL has no song which can be labelled as copied in their Career. But still... Our SEL are not Tanishq Baghchi who re-make song by just few lyrics adding 😂😂... It's SEL and so they re-made it like it's an Indian Party song.
Many basic listener also said these for the Legendary R.D.Burman . without having sny knowledge on recreation or musical arrangements....R.D.Burman saab's instrumental part was very much rich and There hundreds of Original tune of R.D.Burman...
Original? They are all copied like it or not. If the original artists ever sue non of these songs would survive the judgement!!. preety woman had to pay leagal fees that my friend is borrowing without approval!!.. if international artists did that with bollywood song everyone will say they stole.
It's always better we stand with original composers rather than guys like Pritam because, by the end of the day, I'm sure, everyone will realize that: "Chori choti ho ya bari, chori chori hi hoti hai."
The Godfather Theme resembles "Tum kya jaano dil karta" from Aashiq, not Raja ko Rani se pyaar ho gaya, although composition is different the tune is the same
From a legal perspective, sampling original art without reproduction rights, agreement, or any sort of attribution, is a form of copyright infringement. It remains fully punishable by law if found guilty. Any original song should have its own copyright rights declared as evidence, to begin with. Else court will assume no verifiable proof of originality and dismiss the case.
I have a question, what do you think of 'Bhool bhulaiya theme song' and 'my lecon' by jtl? The basic tune is similar but rest of the song isn't. Bhool bhulaiya was released in 2007 and my lecon came out in 2001. Please comment your opinion
Obviously it's not copying, as he says in the video. Just picking the opening tune doesn't mean a song is copied. In American music, every catchy intro tune could be found in half a dozen other songs. It's called sampling.
@@scientia.veritas but for even sampling you have to take rights from original... That's why T series taken down many american songs who are just using hook tune of sanam re, tum hi ho etc in repetition.
Yes, the music-arrangement of 'Hare Ram' is ditto copied from 'My Lecon', and the main tune of the line 'Hare Ram Hare Ram' is also inspired (not ditto copied) from the Arabic folk-song 'Streets of Cairo'.
Bill Halley made a rock and roll version of 'Streets of Cairo' which is famous as 'Oriental Rock'. Most probably Pritam has taken the inspiration from 'Oriental Rock'.
@@ArjunSingh-tt3mi ua-cam.com/video/tTcnIYYeZI8/v-deo.html Bro you did exactly what Scoop whoop did. How does it feel to be a 🤡 with so much confidence?
Nice bro ekdam sahi ❤😊 .aisa hi hua tha bengali song soniye tu janiye tu je saath jinko caller tune song ka copy bataya gaya jabki dono gaane ekdam alag hai aagar thik se suno toh😢
As someone that composes, arranges, produces music, there's a difference between copying and sampling or taking inspiration from a certain song.....music is very limited, there are only 12 notes. Most non-music people are just ignorant of this fact.
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I had the album of "Kal ho na ho". The cover clearly mentioned Roy Orbison's name and the "Pretty woman" song was a licensed version of the original. A licensed version is not a copied version.
They copied it after legal warning from original owner they brought the rights..
@@gurunandi721 bsdk video dekh ke tujhe akal nhi aayi kya..its inspired not copied 😂😂
@@spotifyloverpk aap aise hi baat karte hai kya stranger se? Sahi hai, maine trivia bata diya jo kahi pe suna tha.. maine wahi kaha jo suna hai is gaane k bare me😜
@@gurunandi721 Sampling is not copying
In sampling the owner buys the song and then make the changes accordingly and yes it's leagal
Starting ki dhun hi to main hoti h yarrr,woi se gana shuru hota h,or sbse jyda mehnat startng me hi hoti h badke lyrics or beat to apne ap baith jati h,or humare bollywood wale bhaiyo ne israel ki national anthem tk nai chodi,wo gana hana,""""mera mulk mera desh mera ye watan shanti ka unnati ka pyar ka chaman""""ye sunna or israel ki national anthem,rd burman ko me pehle bht respct krta ta,rd burman,rajesh roshan,evn kuch kishor kumar ke b songs fully copied h,in logo ke ye lagta ta india ki janta chutiya h 90% logo tk to ye baat kabi pahucegi hi nai,par ye to bhala ho modiji ka sasta net dediya to inki chori chakari bahr agai,itni purani histry,geography sangeet ky nai h is desh ke pass,par bollywood propoganda or chori pe hi banayega,my name is khan,main hoon na bas yei dikhao ke hindustan pura kharab h,indian army se leke polic,hindu sb harami h,or bichare shanti priye majhub pr hamla krta h hindu,jbki actual ky h wo sb dekh hi rae h shaheen baug se leke rajasthan,bengal tk ky hora h hinduo ka haal,ye kaisi vidambna h ki hanuman chalisa bolne wale ko jail hoti h,or allah ho akbar jiska litral meaning ye h ki there is srf allah nothng else,usko iphone diya jata h
Fact : The 'Didi' song by milk and honey is further inspired from 'Didi' by Khaled. 🙂✌️
There is also a Bengali version of it sung by Usha Uthup ji.
Yes...bhai....Didi was a very famous song and also in bengali we have the song
Didi was remade in many languages.
Bro it was Sajjad ali s song bebiya
@@muhammadifham9404 babiya was also a remake of Didi. Khaled's song Didi is the O.G.
@@sshakababy ohh kk dint know it
But i loved that song!
My mom used to say that people can not make so many different songs. It's not always possible to make different songs with different beats. Sometimes newer songs need inspiration from older songs.
Chhapa factory part 1..and 2.3 dekho
Bollywood ne kitne hi hit song Pakistan se chhori Kiye Hain
U were wrong in many things. Some times if the base line is similar to another song, they'll sue. I think it also depends on how many chords are similar, if both songs are in the same key or tempo, etc. Even if the clip seeming seeming to be copied just a few seconds the original creator can sue them
He's just basically trying to whitewash our beloved thief bollywood
Are you a lawyer or music creator?
Bande ka confidence toh dekho. 😂
Just because they can sue doesn't mean they're right. They sue because they want attention and money.
@@zelda7059 The original creator has always the right to sue anyone who copies his work partially or fully without his consent.
Didi is a very famous arabic song from 1991 by khaled. There have been various adaptations of it in different languages including milk and honey. Dedi was adaptation of that song.
I was surprised this guy didn't know. Didi by Khaled was popular worldwide hit, just like Gangnam style
@@gauravgandi1398 right and it is the hookline that they copied which is the addictive part.
@@ankitjoshi90 Exactly. That's the soul and the defining part of that song. If that is copied then whole song u can call copied.
This guys contradicts himself when says that "Dhoom Machale ka main tune toh copy nahi tha na" and then for " Tip Tip he says "sirf main tune hi copy thi na pura gaana toh nahi"... 😜
@@gauravgandi1398 just the hook cannot be equated with the whole song. Sure, it's the most recognisable part of the song, but to say that "hook copied = whole song copied" is reaching. If that was the case, music directors should just compose the hook and leave the rest of the song to their unpaid interns.
@@scientia.veritas Tanishq Bagchi will be very happy with your logic. He copies the mains parts of the original and beech me rap and karcha bhar deta hai.
This was so needed. The label of "copy paste" has been rotting a lot of heads. The way you explained every song with humour, honesty and logic. Appreciate your work, man.
It's called palagarisim not copy
Starting ki dhun hi to main hoti h yarrr,woi se gana shuru hota h,or sbse jyda mehnat startng me hi hoti h badke lyrics or beat to apne ap baith jati h,or humare bollywood wale bhaiyo ne israel ki national anthem tk nai chodi,wo gana hana,""""mera mulk mera desh mera ye watan shanti ka unnati ka pyar ka chaman""""ye sunna or israel ki national anthem,rd burman ko me pehle bht respct krta ta,rd burman,rajesh roshan,evn kuch kishor kumar ke b songs fully copied h,in logo ke ye lagta ta india ki janta chutiya h 90% logo tk to ye baat kabi pahucegi hi nai,par ye to bhala ho modiji ka sasta net dediya to inki chori chakari bahr agai,itni purani histry,geography sangeet ky nai h is desh ke pass,par bollywood propoganda or chori pe hi banayega,my name is khan,main hoon na bas yei dikhao ke hindustan pura kharab h,indian army se leke polic,hindu sb harami h,or bichare shanti priye majhub pr hamla krta h hindu,jbki actual ky h wo sb dekh hi rae h shaheen baug se leke rajasthan,bengal tk ky hora h hinduo ka haal,ye kaisi vidambna h ki hanuman chalisa bolne wale ko jail hoti h,or allah ho akbar jiska litral meaning ye h ki there is srf allah nothng else,usko iphone diya jata h
@@varunsharma5397 i said it with the intention of how people "put" it. You saw the quotations right?
@@damn3876 I understand but plagiarism is crime and people must hate those music director like pritam, annu Malik and viju Shah cuz our country reputation on the line
@@varunsharma5397 yes exactly. that is why i appreciated the video as he talked about it really well.
Pretty woman from kal ho na Ho was not copied it officially bought from makers
What will you say about "Jab koi baat bigad Jaye" and "A Hundred Miles"?? Antara change kar diya but Mukhda same hai to kya copied nhi kahenge???
Ultimately I understood that u r the solo defender of all the Indian music directors…. Keep it up..They will be inspired by u
Pretty Woman by Shankar Ehsaan Loy was officially declared even before the film released. I think they even took the copyright of the original and I think it was also mentioned in the audio cassette.
About "Pretty Women", if we check the credits of the album, it was mentioned there that this song is inspired by the American Song "Oh Pretty Women". They have given the credits for it properly. I think this was mentioned on their Wikipedia page as well. Infact, even if you check the credits of the official song on UA-cam, they have very clearly mentioned Roy Obrinson's name as the music composer as well as the lyricist. So no, "Pretty Women" from Kal Ho Naa Ho is not copied, instead is rightfully inspired. And besides, Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy are just so true to their art and are sooo amazing with their work, it would be absolutely unbelievable if they ever did any such thing. The songs they have given to the industry are just pure gold. It would have been better if Schoop Whoop did their research properly.
You are right. The producers of the film had paid the original artist and acquired a proper license.
Actually ScoopWhoop said Borrowed, not copied for this song. It would have been better if you could read properly.
@@HaBeeV It would have been better if you would have paid attention to the title of article properly. And it would have been even better if you knew English properly. Perhaps, then you could understand the concept of vaguely related words used as synonyms in a particular context.
Unnecessarily rude hone hi zaroorat nhi h. If you can't be respectful, the least you can do is keep mum and ignore and walk ahead. Now please don't bother replying.
@@sanghmitrachoudary TL;DR
@@HaBeeV Hahaha. In that case, pehle wala bhi nhi padhna tha.
An entire song's structure doesn't need to be 'sampled' for it to have the title of 'copied'. Ice Ice Baby by Vanilla Ice had sampled just the bassline of Queen & David Bowie's hit song "Under Pressure", and also changed a note in the baseline. But still, considering the significance of the bassline(maybe), Queen sued Vanilla Ice and the court passed the judgment in their favor.
Exactly!
Agreed ! You just can not justify it no matter how much you try to.
Sampling involves licensing. The royalties still go to the original creator
But if one tune matches you can't say copied , it may be unintentionally matching from another song
@@navinsharma1443 the odds of successive notes matching coincidentally is extremely unlikely. 1 in millions, I think. It's possible only in standard riffs and scales.
For your kind information, Dedi was officially taken DIDI song by Cheb Khalid....!!!!
The second line of dhoom song also matches...how can one miss that!
One thing I want to add,
These songs sounds similar cause when a music producer listens to many music pieces that music mixes with other pieces unconsciously and gives new music. This factor happens to me.
True
Try writing a song, most of the words come in mind which you have already listened.
Also our brain actively tries to match the songs and find similarities.
Totally agreed..it happens many times
this is called sampling right??
@@pratishtha5740 I this case repetition of few words or music is subliminal but in case of sampling, it is intentional I guess.
@@b.k5991 Bhai tum bhi thode fancy ho jao. Sampling and copying are two very different things; without sampling, music wouldn't have evolved to where it is today. It's like saying "uski recipe pe aloo boil kiye the, main apni recipe me aloo boil karuga to copy ho jaega"
Defaming only Pritam is always what they do since 2 decades... Definitely he copied but his music arrangement and choice is way more than others. Pritam is major part of bollywood music's revolution which you love but still they are hating him with considering Tanishk Bagchi as their legend 😉
You can never find a person in the whole universe who " hates on pritam and consider Tanishk Bagchi as their legend" . None of them make originals , Pritam's remakes are just better
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Yes you are right 👍
Pritam da ko farak nahi padta 🤣🤣🤣😅
Unke Originals v Dusre Composers k Originals se Better Hote Hain... ❤️
Dharma actually gave credit to Roy Orbison for pretty woman . You can see that in the description of the song
Credit dene mein aur poora copy mein farak hota hai bhai
@@techmania5957 he means ki shankar ehsaan ne credit deke clear kardiya ki track hamne copy kiya tha.mtlb unhone accept kiya iss baat ko......
@@techmania5957 abe to bewkuf agle koi dikkt nhi h tabhi to usne permission di hai na? 😂
@@techmania5957 Bhsdk right krada hua tha pretty woman ka
Yaar 1 billion log ek Naya gana bhi nahi bana sakte. Hadd hai
As a K-content fan I'm heart broken about "Paheli Nazar main" , I'm die heart fan of this song and I was so proud of creativity of an Indian artist... But my heart shank
Basically it is not about copyied or inspired , its about where u get the initial idea of composition of the song which is the most important and difficult thing in the first place. When you get the initial push rest of the song making is easy. Also most of the song is written after composition, lyricist write the song by listening to the composition.
I would disagree with your take on "inspired songs". If a director lifts even a single tune or a section as it is without giving the original creator any credit, then the song shouldn't be considered as his/her "original work" even if the rest of the song is originally composed or another instrument is used. I would call it an "inspiration" only when a director makes at least some alterations to the tune he/she is inspired from. If a composer wants to lift the tune as it is, then he/she should do so by giving credits or obtaining permission (as Shankar- Ehsaan - Loy and Vishal-Shekhar did for Pretty Woman and Dildaara, respectively). I think the main issue is not blatantly lifting the songs or sections, but not giving credits to the original creator.
On the other hand, some people do get carried away and call similar sounding lines or sections as "copied" even though they're not blatant lifts.
Love your content though...
Does "Chandni Raat Hai" from Baaghi (1990) count as an inspiration? Many have claimed it to be ripped off from the Tamil song "Kelladi Kanmani" from the 1989 film Pudhu Pudhu Arthangal, but if you listen to both songs, there is barely any resemblance between the songs, aside from the rhythm and a few instruments like the flute.
Exactly
Exactly , he is giving reasons that the instrument used is different for the same tune. This is ridiculous!
Vro there thousands Of music directors in the world it can be a co incident there music may miss match
all art is inspired
Pritam used the same power chords from kya mujhe pyar hai original 😂 but the fact is pritam can arrange song well.
But remebr pritam doesn't arange d song. He has three or more arangers who do it for him so there also he doesn't get credit
@@gentlekannada ain't that the case with all famous musicians? They got plenty of arrangers, very rarely they sit and arrange stuff. The hardest part is saying no and cutting out parts and giving us the best final track.
@@talkswithvigy7860 m sory that's not d hardest part. Creating a track takes like 4 continious days. Saying no takes few mins. So no. Nd if arranger creates then composr only does the tune which is stolen so watbus his combination
@Anime yokai Moral : He hates Pritam 😎
jitne passion se ye banda pritam ko hate krta hai utne passion se agar main padhai krta to sayad abtak IAS ban jata 😂😂
Finally he remembered that he's having a utube channel 🙌
I tried to convince myself that you were right... but bro... as an architect i can say that even similar concepts and ideas can be called (not claimed) copying, if the creator specifically mention he is inspired.
Dhoom machale- is inspired copied or sampled from two songs
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Enta Ma Oltesh Leih
1. The dedi song was inspired by Khalid's didi...it was a 90's hit! But the sequence in that movie justified it...they were in the 90's.
2. Shankar Ehshaan Loy had taken official rights for pretty woman. That appears prominently in the album label.
The culture thing you mentioned for "Pretty women" is valid for "dedi" song as well, main character based in middle east and didi song by cheb khalid was massive in Arab countries
Chhapa factory part 1..and 2.3 dekho
Bollywood ne kitne hi hit song Pakistan se chhori Kiye Hain
A very true fact
Copying and being inspired are 2 very different things
Like my favourite Music Composer Jatin-Lalit were also inspired from some tunes which they used in their songs like the piano piece from Pehla Nasha or Guitar piece from Jab kisi ki taraf or even Woh toh hai albela was inspired from the song 'Rimjhim gire Sawan' by RD Burman
13:11 pretty woman me credit dia hai youtube description me. Ab ye ni pata ki pol khulne ke baad "$inspired by" likha ya pehle se likha tha
Surprised to see your take on this. That is like saying if someone paint Monalisa in green robe, it's not a copy.
Well if that green robe is best robe in world ever drawn
It's more like if someone draws a girl portrait it can't be called a copy.
Absolutely. Nailed it
Yes, the guy is being too literal with the word copy here. It's very obvious that many songs in this list were the base on which the Bollywood versions were composed. As a composer myself, I can see how one can copy the first couple of melodies and change the next two to avoid copyright issues. Video uploader is acting super naive.
@@dharmiksamani8258 Anyone associated with art field knows how invaluable the original idea is. Copying others art and tweaking it a bit is thousand times easier than creating your own unique art.
Again waiting for RRR music review 😂...and if you will review movie dekhne k baad karna, nahi to maja nahi aayega❤️
Bhaiya is multitalented 😳🤣🤣I was eating orange .... Almost the comedy part made the 🍊 orange juice split from my mouth 😂😂
Some chord progressions ( e.g. I - V - VI - IV ) & beats are so common & frequently used that when an amateur listens to it, they call it copied.
I agree there have been numerous examples in Western music. the opening of Iron Maiden's Two minutes to Midnight is similar to Rory Gallagher's Moonchild. Sam Smith's Stay with me is a bit similar to tom Petty's 'I Wont back down' and the list goes on..
@@virajgupte3357 Yep. If you're into Anime / J - Pop music, you'd see that a lot of those songs sound similar at some instances because of frequent use of some chord progressions
@@rahuldhere4093 Will surely explore that form. Thanks for recommending, friend.
Rahul, the issue is not the chord progression but the blatant theft of melodies. There can be hundreds of songs with the same chord progression and each can have a different melody built on it.
So copying melodies is still copying. All the examples highlighted in the video were melodies and not chord progressions. Of course there's only a limited number of scales and chord progressions. Melodies on the other hand can be endless
Chhapa factory part 1..and 2.3 dekho
Bollywood ne kitne hi hit song Pakistan se chhori Kiye Hain
Dedi is actually an interpolation of the Arabic/Algarian song Didi. That song has been rerendered into many different languages.
The issue is Bollywood composers not giving any credit to the sample used, you need to take permission from the original record label. Bollywood has also copied from South composers like Illayaraja.
Hypocrisy is when you have to distort even a single line of any music for fear of copyright strike and you say copying 2 lines is not enough to call it copy😂
true
Exactly
Sampling a tune or a piece of music is also a talent
Not everyone can do this.
Yes, but it is important to give credit to the original.
@@loveshell007 You don't have to if you are modifying a piece of music
You are taking an inspiration not copying it.
@@realmsmalvi lol justifying plagiarism by saying it inspiration😂
@@nutellaaa7086 yes same as your every word is plagiarism you are using same words that someone used 500 years ago. Yet essays are creative
@@nutellaaa7086 many producers sample music without giving credits and it is very obvious nowadays
Thanks for this video many village idiots spamming "copy" with laughing emojis is irritating, nothing can be 100% original.
Inspire hona bhi copy hi hota hei bhai..
Khud kaa dimag nahi hota composers ka , to dusro se inspire hote hei
Kuch change kar lete hei or ho gaya
Pretty Woman’s rights were officially bought by Dharma Productions for Kal Ho Naa Ho…and it’s antara melody is same as the original with a few melodic changes in Mukhda.
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@@SANGEETARIST Logo ki mummiyan bhi dekh rahi hain,ab se aise waise Jokes zara sambhal ke maarna. 😂
Best thing he didn't abused
@@mistiyadav5070 nahi hasi nahi ayi
Who noticed vimal ad with Akshay in that website 😂
Bolo zubha caseri 😂
the tip tip barsa pani moment and you waiting for the songs to start was outright hilarious🤣🤣🤣
Bhai isse naa ho payega.. seems like abhi abhi music sunna shuru kiya hai isne 🤣🤣🤣
Copying and Inspiring(Sampling) is not very different from each other. A musicians mettle is only proved when he creates an all new different track
Actually dil cheez tujhe dedi is inspired from Arabic song dedi by khalid, and that song was played in the movie hadh krdi aapne also, during that TV sequence of Govinda
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No. You cant call that sampling . Sampling is when you take am original piece of audio , turn it into something else or build another track on that original audio by creating a loop .
Exactly 😂. I can't take this you tuber seriously. The guy is being ultra defensive for the Bollywood composers.
Yeah just like one more time by daft punk
I think I read Karan Johar mentioning that he bought the rights of the song 'Pretty Woman'
Anyhow, I completely agree with your analysis brother 👍
I agree with your distinction of Copy v Inspired but at the same time, have to admit a lot of songs have been sued for even less than this. Two incidents that come to my mind are 'Bittersweet Symphony' for it's prelude orchestra sued by Rolling Stones, Verve lost the battle and now all the royalty from that song goes to Rolling Stones rather than Verve and they never had a similar success ever. Second is Ice Ice Baby by Vanilla Ice which uses the same hook tune in the beginning as that of Under Pressure by Queen ft David Bowie, rest of the songs are very different but that starting was straight up lifted by Vanilla Ice (there is a hilarious interview where he tries to prove that the tunes are different because he changed the key in one note)
I didn't know this fact about bittersweet symphony, I mean it's one of my all time favorite songs. I have also followed Stones a bit, but i doubt any song of theirs has a similarity to the Verve song in question.
@@sauravdagaSDaga1984 go through this video: ua-cam.com/video/I_s90-Hi2ZY/v-deo.html
Exactly! He says he comes from music background and still says like its not copied just inspired. If these songs are taken to court almost all of these will loose the lawsuit.
The rolling stones one is weird.They had the license to use it but they used more of it.Also Ashcroft did a stupid decision of selling the song to Allan Klein that fucked upt he whole thing apart
@@srvbhmk265 I mean yeah you could say that but again music copyright lawsuits are screwed up these days(look at Blurred Lines lawsuit)
Copied borrowed or resembled or just inspiration! Which term suits case to case ???
Like the way you are appraising Indrusty!!..good work..
Regarding Pretty Woman, Dharma Productions actually bought rights of the original song so that they could use the tune. Nothing wrong there and the context is bang on what you said. It seems like SRK's character took Pretty WOman as an inspiration and remoulded a hindi song around it, comes off much more realistic.
Regarding Dedi, the song you heard is not the original, this song or rather that hook part has been used and reused multiple times and is a common trope to establish an Arabic theme. It was used in a Govinda film as well, where he was changing his disguise behind a TV monitor (hilarious scene btw)
Dharma productions paid ₹8 Lakh - I remember that from Sony Max trivia they used to add just before commercial.
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When ARR took inspiration from Choli Ke Piche, he actually mentioned that.
If he hadn't mentioned that, no one would have even realised it.
That's called inspired songs, and yes if the initial tunes are copied it's copied.
Nope I dont agree with you brother sometimes artists unknowingly “copy” songs because they listen to world music and it gets embeded into their subconscious. Even Tarantino blatantly steals the scenes of other movies and not from a single source and he has accepted it but he will not go around to mention each filmmaker’s name because he adds his creativity to it and takes the “copied “scene to another level. People like you will call that creativity but when some cues and tunes are “copied” from other songs but the arrangement, instrumentation and singing is different then too people will disregard the artists completely. Also I am not justifying blatant plagiarism of songs in Bollywood and I am not naive to the fact that this happens but the whole point of the video was to say that not all the songs that sound a bit similar are copied.
Agree
Chhapa factory part 1..and 2.3 dekho
Bollywood ne kitne hi hit song Pakistan se chhori Kiye Hain
there's a site called splice where creators make their tracks and put them for use by other artists nowadays. i believe it's possible that more than one artist can choose a particular track for their songs and the songs would then end up having some slight similarities. Just because a certain piece of the song ends up having the same rhythm/groove/arpeggios, doesn't mean it's 'copied'.
this is what happens when u try to become cool in front of ur friends by throwing some unchecked factssssss in front😂
The legend of Tarzan - Mere sath gaoge
And
Middle of the road - Chirpy chirpy Cheep
Chorus sounds is also similar.
The composition of the song jab koi baat also resambles with an english song 500 miles
People actually don't know the difference between plagiarism and sampling.
Sampling ke liye rights buy karne padte hai
@@Executor8 Yes. People should know that.
@@forzer7334 bollywood credit bhi nahi deta
@@imranriazkhanpakistani Samples pe credit dete hain kya? I don't know. International artists toh nhi dete hain shayad.
@@Executor8 20 seconds tak koi rights buy krne ki zarurat nhi hoti
Thanks for sharing this...There is always something to learn in and about music😇✨
Defending Bollywood..!!! Raajajjii...😂😁😂
Didi is an older song from Khaled..listen that and revisit your opinion.
Also Raja ko Rani se pyaar ho gaya had a fast paced tempo and it was played at major scale.
0:08 that BGM is majorly heard in PJ explained videos😅
Much needed video, I am from a background of Literature student, there is a theory given by Aristotle and Plato which was called MIMESIS that means Imitation and its an important thing in an art, whether Literature or music
Even great poets like Chaucher who is considered as father of English Poetry at first copied much from Italian renessaince poets but still he used something of his own that was his excellent narrative skill, then later he produced his own Masterpiece "Canterbury Tales" which was his original idea even in that too somethings are taken, Even Shakespeare got inspired by many but he made it his own, thats called Art, you can take a thing but to make it an original is on yours.
Sau baat ki ek baat
Even Imitation actually helps an artist so he can learn and explore and discover, hnn it should not be copied just as it like pritam did with Paheli nazar me song but still there is much thing in music like Composition, choosing of instruments, Arrangements, beat patterns or percussions, so I agree you can't say this one is copied, it certainly shows you are a layman if you say so.
English literature?
Unfortunately, in spite of having a background in literature, you seem to be misguided about the entire purport of Mimesis.
When Aristotle mentioned it, he did not mean that art is an imitation of other art, he meant that art is an imitation of life, meaning art is a mimetic representation of reality, truth, fact, etc. A more refined version of the same is from the domain of design, when someone like Bruno Munari says 'form follows function'.
Secondly, Plato is in fact criticized for the theory of Mimesis as it fails to account for the originality that adds a distinct flavour to the art that is missing in reality itself.
It's quite rich to call others ignorant when you may not have properly looked at the subject of discussion yourself. :)
@@museruse1 i guess you are not able to understand what i said anything there, and just started giving unnecessary Textual readings of Mimesis here, also I ll suggest you first talk in context and instead of finding faults in others, first try to comprehend something.
Plato was the one who introduced the word Mimesis but havent you used your mind how Aristotle replied to it
Whatever you stated about mimesis is right and FYI I know that but first read my comment carefully here i am using of Mimesis in different context, that how it helps a new artist as GB shaw said Imitation is the sincerest form of Learning.
Art is certainly not an Imitation of other art, when did I say that,
Aristotle firstly say by defending mimesis that It's feel a great pleasure in Imitation and this is the reason why babies love to imitate and this Imitation is the way of Learning new things. my argument is limited to this only, i haven't started talking about Other things cuz its not much familiar here about how Art is a representation of life,reality etc.
I am more interested it how Mimesis helps an artist to understand Art and then explore it , i guess you haven't read chaucer, how he used the techniques of Boccaccio,petrarch, dante in his early works, even look at all those earlier works of him.
This is why great poets and dramatist have used Imitation to learn first.
In literature that Imitation can be of Narrative style, meters, but as i have said, it shouldn't be as similar as simply like copying it, there is something like honest imitation
and I guess you haven't read the later part of my comment, and ya Aristotle was saying this that Imitation gives pleasure but I haven't said his arguments or analysis of mimises
Not only Aristotle, many great thinkers came and talked about Imitation.
dude use your mind, Its Imitation that makes us to learn new things.
If you have had read the history of literature, you would not have given such a layman reply starting with ad hominem, Grow up
@@abhinavsinghal947 ya but it doesn't matter, applies to all Literatures even Art
@@rishabhrockstar5739 And there you go again calling people names...
Interesting that you mention 'ad hominem'. Well, calling people names to prove yourself right, or giving angry word ejaculations devoid of meaning in the answers is a textbook example of 'argumentum ad lapidem' or 'ad lapidem' arguments.
Secondly, by talking about Aristotle and Plato, and later about George Bernard Shaw, you are the one who is giving ad hominem arguments, man. Your accusations to me don't even make sense.
Let me explain it to you simply now, for you to understand easily. In the context of this video, (as you asked for context (though it should have been abundantly clear) I submit that imitation of smaller parts doesn't mean it's not imitation. Imitating someone else's creation without attribution is called plagiarism. The quantum of imitation is irrelevant. Just because imitation has been done in the past, or it gives pleasure, or some renowned philosophers think it's ok doesn't automatically make it right.
Honest imitation would include citations of sources.
If you really believed you could argue with logic and rationality, you wouldn't have gotten so triggered at someone's disagreement. I'd urge you to please understand the ingredients of a healthy discussion. :)
Finally, please don't ask me to grow up, I'm happy as I am. :)
14:04 : Godfather theme :
song - tum kya jano dil karta tumse kitna pyar... movie - aashiq...
'Nind churayi meri kisne wo sanam tune tune' copied (inspired) by 'sending all my love to you' song 1993 🙃🙂
I'm not sure, but I think tune/bgm of Mehabooba song (KGF2) is inspired from other song ....
If anyone know plz...say it 🙂
Tell me please ☺️
Bhool bhulaiya title track is also often blamed for plagiarism while I find the background tune only being copied. The official remake of that song was just released today and for the first time, I found a Baghchi remake nostalgic…
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@@raja-jl9os 🤣🤣 kya baat hai
@@raja-jl9os bhojpuri movie ko gaali dene keliye pehle usey dekhna toh padega 😂😂 kisi ke paas itna time nahi hai ki woh ek bhojpuri movie pe barbaad kare
Chhapa factory part 1..and 2.3 dekho
Bollywood ne kitne hi hit song Pakistan se chhori Kiye Hain
bahot accha lagta hai jb apke jaise youtuber ko appriciation milta hai...because you are the rare one who actually have sence of humour and pure touch of sangeet...you are not the person who serve other things under the garb of some classy or catchy channel name....you are the true sangeetartist...
I was not very found of music..but since i started watching your videos I actully started following music in more cautious way....rest your channel is contegious...thats it😇
Chhapa factory part 1..and 2.3 dekho
Bollywood ne kitne hi hit song Pakistan se chhori Kiye Hain
i even heard the tune in "mere rang mein rangne wali" and "the final countdown" by London Symphony Orchestra is the same
inspired= copied! Bollywood the name copied/inspired by Hollywood.
Man I love ur videos. And I have personally recommended it to a lot a people. But akhir wo din aa hi gayaa when I don't agree with ur views on something. I do agree that to say the whole song is copied in these scenarios will be wrong , bt to leave them saying they were just inspired will be wrong too. Specially when 90% of those songs had copied the best part of those songs from somewhere else. For example the theme tone of Tip Tip , that's the best thing about it and it's copied. Didi song was one of my most fav songs from my childhood , and I was really heartbroken when they copied it.
but chalo agree to disagree this time once. Will be waiting for you next video to get back to the path of agreement again 😁
I disagree with him on this one as well, even without reading any article, first time listening to the "dedi" song I quickly recalled "didi" from my childhood, this can't just be a coincidence. Although the whole song is not copied, but copying the hook is no less.
But boy, yours is the most respectful disagreement I've ever seen yet.
Chhapa factory part 1..and 2.3 dekho
Bollywood ne kitne hi hit song Pakistan se chhori Kiye Hain
That 69 km distance between c and p was lit!! 🤣🤣🔥🔥
One suggestion would be YA ALI which is actually completely Dhapofied from Ya Ghali....would love to hear your take
Woh toh pura copy hai
Kaho na kaho also Copy from tamali Mark
Deewana Kar raha hain(Raaz 3) copied from ana law azoteh by mohammed hamaki
Mujhe sir dard ho gaya tumhari commentary sunke 🤯
Copied Songs nahi hone chahiye jb original Compostion ni ho paa rahi bollywood se to vo new freshers ko mauka de ! In logo ki wajah se real talent kabhi bhi front pr ni aa pata🥺🥺😭😭
True and these people dont know the concept of sampling...tbh if we go by their concept of plagiarism even levitating by dua lipa is copied which fyi has been cleared by the court that it is not copied.
I can name thousands of songs in kpop which are sampled from other artists' work.
Also Ariana grande and taylor swift songs also sample.
You're telling this guy's efforts average and you're showing his content on your channel...so nice
Almost all of the songs on this list are indeed copied. It would even classify as a copy even if directors are picking parts of the song. Most of the directors would take a catchy tune from a famous song and then build a song around it or change the tempo, change instruments or arrange musix slightly differently but having original parts in a song doesn't change the fact the copied parts were blatantly used without giving credits. Also it's not just rhythm that is common between these songs. Most of the chords progression are exactly the same.
Exactly
All those songs are either inspired or may be copied in some ways.Director took a part and then add some of creativity of his own and then make it a whole new song .
I was looking for a sensible comment, thanks!
you can't say the whole song is copied.Songs aren't made with one or two lines.If the whole song tune matches then you can say it’s copied.
@@bipra6032 If that's the hook of the song, or the most prominent portion, then the song is identified based on that. Of course, the whole song is not copied exactly, but that may have been the first part of the song to be made. The law is also clear on the same. Even if a part of the song is copied, it's illegal.
When someone uploads a video saying that if some portions are copied it shouldn't be a big deal, it's an insult to the original creator who isn't credited with it. Plagiarism is the worst thing that can happen to an artist.
Whole heartedly agree. Inspite of I like him for analysis; sometimes it is flawed. For example he says that only two lines of Pal Pal appears copied. But it is ditto same, and for majority of listeners those lines are the identifier. And If out of 100; if 90 feels that it is copied, and then it is copied. second example. I have grown up with Didi of Khaled. When I heard Didi of Airlift; the first thing strike me was Khaled. And these are big musician [who has copied or got inspired], with this one flick of inspiration; they can make the whole song.
irony is the guitar in Sarang Hae is somewhat inspired from "Shape of my heart- Stings"
11:31 it was a very good movie. Even our favourite movies such as Notebook, Do lafzo ki baatein,etc are also copied from old Korean movies. Recently Tiger Shroff's album with Shraddha also copied the whole song Peaches by Kai and the audacity to not even give a small thanks. It's an insult to an artistic soul.!
Didi to Daddy.. That was funny😂😂
12:39 That borrowed reminded me of Mr. Bean 😂😂
13:41 Bro Sangeetarist... Pretty Woman song was Legally remade with permissions of the original creators & the label. It's not inspired... It's just a re-make. SEL has no song which can be labelled as copied in their Career.
But still... Our SEL are not Tanishq Baghchi who re-make song by just few lyrics adding 😂😂... It's SEL and so they re-made it like it's an Indian Party song.
Many basic listener also said these for the Legendary R.D.Burman . without having sny knowledge on recreation or musical arrangements....R.D.Burman saab's instrumental part was very much rich and There hundreds of Original tune of R.D.Burman...
Original? They are all copied like it or not. If the original artists ever sue non of these songs would survive the judgement!!. preety woman had to pay leagal fees that my friend is borrowing without approval!!.. if international artists did that with bollywood song everyone will say they stole.
It's always better we stand with original composers rather than guys like Pritam because, by the end of the day, I'm sure, everyone will realize that: "Chori choti ho ya bari, chori chori hi hoti hai."
starting!
that "hey" is emotion yrr
The Godfather Theme resembles "Tum kya jaano dil karta" from Aashiq, not Raja ko Rani se pyaar ho gaya, although composition is different the tune is the same
Bro these clearly copied tunes. you cant just justify things by saying 'bas thoda sa inspired ho gaya to kya hua'
Didi by Khaled was the original, i heard it way back in 90s in MTV..then it was taken by Usha Uthup with the Bengali song Didi.. search in UA-cam
From a legal perspective, sampling original art without reproduction rights, agreement, or any sort of attribution, is a form of copyright infringement. It remains fully punishable by law if found guilty. Any original song should have its own copyright rights declared as evidence, to begin with. Else court will assume no verifiable proof of originality and dismiss the case.
I have a question, what do you think of 'Bhool bhulaiya theme song' and 'my lecon' by jtl? The basic tune is similar but rest of the song isn't. Bhool bhulaiya was released in 2007 and my lecon came out in 2001. Please comment your opinion
Obviously it's not copying, as he says in the video. Just picking the opening tune doesn't mean a song is copied. In American music, every catchy intro tune could be found in half a dozen other songs. It's called sampling.
@@scientia.veritas but for even sampling you have to take rights from original... That's why T series taken down many american songs who are just using hook tune of sanam re, tum hi ho etc in repetition.
Yes, the music-arrangement of 'Hare Ram' is ditto copied from 'My Lecon', and the main tune of the line 'Hare Ram Hare Ram' is also inspired (not ditto copied) from the Arabic folk-song 'Streets of Cairo'.
Bill Halley made a rock and roll version of 'Streets of Cairo' which is famous as 'Oriental Rock'. Most probably Pritam has taken the inspiration from 'Oriental Rock'.
Dedi from Airlift was so hilarious. It's NOT at all similar!!! I wanna meet the person who wrote this article.
For real 😂😂
Dedi from Airlift was itself remake of arabic song dedi by singer khalid
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Bro you did exactly what Scoop whoop did. How does it feel to be a 🤡 with so much confidence?
Ye sab kar k ye video bana k apke dil ko sukoon milta hai tw karlo bhai ap but everybody knows the fact😅
Nice bro ekdam sahi ❤😊 .aisa hi hua tha bengali song soniye tu janiye tu je saath jinko caller tune song ka copy bataya gaya jabki dono gaane ekdam alag hai aagar thik se suno toh😢
As someone that composes, arranges, produces music, there's a difference between copying and sampling or taking inspiration from a certain song.....music is very limited, there are only 12 notes. Most non-music people are just ignorant of this fact.
11:14 "chotti publisher ho kya" 😭
Divided by polarizing political ideologies, United by Art, music.. luv from PK
Last tak suna, itna sundar Gaarahe the aap, nahi gaye. But bichme sur bigad q diye. Classical bhi achcha gaate ho aap👌👍
aapke andar sonu nigam ki aatma hai...btw i got to know many things from ur videos about music. ab mai music ko bhot trh se observr krta hu aapke wjh se hi, like lyrics,singing,composition, which kind of instrument used like or digital sound etc😄